Comments on: “Day of the Dove” Remastered Screenshots http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/ the source for Star Trek news and information Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:50:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: TrekMadeMeWonder http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-1128916 TrekMadeMeWonder Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:17:42 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-1128916 Star Trek Stock Ticker... _ ...\ _ ........\ ..........\ ............\ ..............\_______ ................................\ ..................................\ ....................................\ Star Trek Stock Ticker…

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]]> By: TrekMadeMeWonder http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-1102437 TrekMadeMeWonder Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:11:29 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-1102437 49. spockboy Cool video! 49. spockboy

Cool video!

]]> By: OR Coast Trekkie http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-387860 OR Coast Trekkie Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:01:44 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-387860 #109 - That sounds accurate #109 – That sounds accurate

]]> By: The Vulcanista http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-384167 The Vulcanista Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:20:00 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-384167 #109 LMAO! Peace. Live long and prosper. The Vulcanista }:-| #109

LMAO!

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

]]> By: Engon http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-383991 Engon Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:02:31 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-383991 I think I can say, without fear of contradiction, that the Engine Room of the USS Enterprise was located at the southeast corner of the intersection of North Gower Street and Willoughby Avenue in Hollywood, California. [Deislu Stage 9 - Paramount Stage 31] The writers never seemed to get this right. I think I can say, without fear of contradiction, that the Engine Room of the USS Enterprise was located at the southeast corner of the intersection of North Gower Street and Willoughby Avenue in Hollywood, California.

[Deislu Stage 9 - Paramount Stage 31]

The writers never seemed to get this right.

]]> By: GNDN http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-381766 GNDN Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:03:17 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-381766 Here's a good discussion on the location of the engine room. http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html I think I liked the Klingons better before they started singing songs. Here’s a good discussion on the location of the engine room.

http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html

I think I liked the Klingons better before they started singing songs.

]]> By: tin man http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-381541 tin man Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:54:51 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-381541 About this engineering location thing, I dont have an axe to grind one way or the other. After all, Even Franz Joseph's bueprints did have two engine rooms, because in the event of hull seperation there would need to be two, one to control and propel each section! However his 'auxiliary' engine room didn't look like anything we saw in the series. I always thought that the 'first season' engine room set was probably the one in the secondary hull per 'throw away lines' like "the lower decks" in ep.s like 'Court Martial' and 'The Enemy Within' (where we see the arched ceiling, suggesting the uppermost deck of the secondary hull), and the season II and III set was in the impulse deck per 'Day Of The Dove' etc. As for the red glowing things behind the grill, these would be fusion reacters to power the impulse engines in the one, and 'prime' or 'warm up' the warp engines in the other (think 'The Naked Time') or even power them at low level in the event that the anti-matter/di-lithium system should fail or be sabotaged. I just wish the shot of the 'extra' empty engine room in 'The Omega Glory' had been replaced in in the remastered version with a shot of the empty fist season set, or even a new CGI matt. Oh well. About this engineering location thing, I dont have an axe to grind one way or the other. After all, Even Franz Joseph’s bueprints did have two engine rooms, because in the event of hull seperation there would need to be two, one to control and propel each section! However his ‘auxiliary’ engine room didn’t look like anything we saw in the series. I always thought that the ‘first season’ engine room set was probably the one in the secondary hull per ‘throw away lines’ like “the lower decks” in ep.s like ‘Court Martial’ and ‘The Enemy Within’ (where we see the arched ceiling, suggesting the uppermost deck of the secondary hull), and the season II and III set was in the impulse deck per ‘Day Of The Dove’ etc. As for the red glowing things behind the grill, these would be fusion reacters to power the impulse engines in the one, and ‘prime’ or ‘warm up’ the warp engines in the other (think ‘The Naked Time’) or even power them at low level in the event that the anti-matter/di-lithium system should fail or be sabotaged. I just wish the shot of the ‘extra’ empty engine room in ‘The Omega Glory’ had been replaced in in the remastered version with a shot of the empty fist season set, or even a new CGI matt. Oh well.

]]> By: The Vulcanista http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-381245 The Vulcanista Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:51:02 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-381245 "What I do find hard to believe in the episode is that 382 crewmembers were trapped in the secondary hull. What the heck were all those people doing there?" ********************************** Well, as someone mentioned earlier, apparently there was cake. :) Peace. Live long and prosper. The Vulcanista }:-| “What I do find hard to believe in the episode is that 382 crewmembers were trapped in the secondary hull. What the heck were all those people doing there?”
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Well, as someone mentioned earlier, apparently there was cake. :)

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

]]> By: The Vulcanista http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-381217 The Vulcanista Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:31:34 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-381217 #88 "Spock's Brain" is actually growing on me. Can somebody please get it off? (sorry.) Peace. Live long and prosper. The Vulcanista }:-| #88

“Spock’s Brain” is actually growing on me.

Can somebody please get it off?

(sorry.)

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

]]> By: Donald http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-381173 Donald Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:05:28 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/06/day-of-the-dove-remastered-screenshots/#comment-381173 Re #94: ST:TWOK was released in 1982. "Day of the Dove" was aired in 1969, and the ship had undergone a massive refit for 1979's ST:TMP. Nowhere in my post did I say that there wasn't a big Engineering Room in the secondary hull. What I said was that Trek "facts" tended to change during production and there exists a contemporary cross-section diagram of the Enterprise made in the 1960's - possibly by Matt Jefferies, the designer of the Enterprise, perhaps you've heard of him? - that places what appears to be the two-story Engineering set in the vicinity of the Impulse Engines of the original saucer. The only thing that your mentioning of TWOK proves is that the horizontal portion of the Main Engineering set of the movie-era Enterprise is located in the secondary hull. It says nothing about the presumptive location of certain sets on the pre-refit Enterprise as scene in the Original Series. Furthermore, if you wish to invoke ST II: TWOK, I'd like to point out that there's another scene in that film when the Reliant hits the Enterprise in the big 'deflector crystal" on the exterior of the impulse engines at the back of the saucer and inside the ship, we see stuntmen fall down part of the intermix shaft that is established as being part of the movies' Main Engineering set. (I can play dueling film clips, as well. :-)) Andy Probert's cross section of the movie Enterprise for TMP has the vertical portion of the intermix chamber starting in the impulse engines, then running down through the connecting dorsal to the bottom of the ship. The horizontal portion of the chamber connects with it deck 16, then runs back to the pylons. ISTR a later Okudagram of the movie Enterprise shortening the vertical section of of the intermix chamber and housing it completely within the secondary hull while the horizontal portion goes off like it does in the Probert version at Deck 16. These changes support my contention that the location of some Enterprise sets weren't carved in stone and that these alleged "facts" changed during production, and a lot of what we now take as given facts about the original Enterprise developed during the movie and Next-Gen era. What I am saying is that Jerome Bixby did not necessarily make a mistake in scripting "Day of the Dove" when it implies that the Engineering Room the Klingons capture is on Deck Seven. What I do find hard to believe in the episode is that 382 crewmembers were trapped in the secondary hull. What the heck were all those people doing there? :-) Re #94:

ST:TWOK was released in 1982. “Day of the Dove” was aired in 1969, and the ship had undergone a massive refit for 1979’s ST:TMP. Nowhere in my post did I say that there wasn’t a big Engineering Room in the secondary hull. What I said was that Trek “facts” tended to change during production and there exists a contemporary cross-section diagram of the Enterprise made in the 1960’s – possibly by Matt Jefferies, the designer of the Enterprise, perhaps you’ve heard of him? – that places what appears to be the two-story Engineering set in the vicinity of the Impulse Engines of the original saucer.

The only thing that your mentioning of TWOK proves is that the horizontal portion of the Main Engineering set of the movie-era Enterprise is located in the secondary hull. It says nothing about the presumptive location of certain sets on the pre-refit Enterprise as scene in the Original Series.

Furthermore, if you wish to invoke ST II: TWOK, I’d like to point out that there’s another scene in that film when the Reliant hits the Enterprise in the big ‘deflector crystal” on the exterior of the impulse engines at the back of the saucer and inside the ship, we see stuntmen fall down part of the intermix shaft that is established as being part of the movies’ Main Engineering set. (I can play dueling film clips, as well. :-))

Andy Probert’s cross section of the movie Enterprise for TMP has the vertical portion of the intermix chamber starting in the impulse engines, then running down through the connecting dorsal to the bottom of the ship. The horizontal portion of the chamber connects with it deck 16, then runs back to the pylons.

ISTR a later Okudagram of the movie Enterprise shortening the vertical section of of the intermix chamber and housing it completely within the secondary hull while the horizontal portion goes off like it does in the Probert version at Deck 16.

These changes support my contention that the location of some Enterprise sets weren’t carved in stone and that these alleged “facts” changed during production, and a lot of what we now take as given facts about the original Enterprise developed during the movie and Next-Gen era.

What I am saying is that Jerome Bixby did not necessarily make a mistake in scripting “Day of the Dove” when it implies that the Engineering Room the Klingons capture is on Deck Seven.

What I do find hard to believe in the episode is that 382 crewmembers were trapped in the secondary hull. What the heck were all those people doing there? :-)

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