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	<title>Comments on: Urban Talks Trek Characters and Production Design</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the writers and to Mr. Urban, from a die hard McCoy fan.</description>
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		<title>By: Axeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know.....Just stop the BS and either watch the movie or not, in perspective or not. It s really simple. Go see it with it in mind that people change, so they have taken that in to consideration. Did anyone catch what he even says about that? And like he says, Leonard Nimoy is endorsing it. Now that in itself is enough. He has acted the part for many years and also directed, not to mention produced some of the movies. I think he knows and can remember how the show should be, I will admite that I am a little surprised to see some of the actors I seen, but makes it all that more exciting to see how well they do. JUST WATCH IT LIKE YOU WOULD THE FIRST MOVIE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230;..Just stop the BS and either watch the movie or not, in perspective or not. It s really simple. Go see it with it in mind that people change, so they have taken that in to consideration. Did anyone catch what he even says about that? And like he says, Leonard Nimoy is endorsing it. Now that in itself is enough. He has acted the part for many years and also directed, not to mention produced some of the movies. I think he knows and can remember how the show should be, I will admite that I am a little surprised to see some of the actors I seen, but makes it all that more exciting to see how well they do. JUST WATCH IT LIKE YOU WOULD THE FIRST MOVIE!</p>
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		<title>By: brocov</title>
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		<dc:creator>brocov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is going to be so awesome, i am really glad that karl urban will be in this movie too. my favorite actor meets one of my favorite sci-fi series.... i could die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is going to be so awesome, i am really glad that karl urban will be in this movie too. my favorite actor meets one of my favorite sci-fi series&#8230;. i could die!</p>
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		<title>By: Laserlover2254</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laserlover2254</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#150,

Yeah, that&#039;s it. It&#039;s about what the changes should be, not to act like there somehow should NOT be any changes at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#150,</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s it. It&#8217;s about what the changes should be, not to act like there somehow should NOT be any changes at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/11/urban-talks-trek-characters-and-production-design/comment-page-5/#comment-394160</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Jay, since you don&#039;t care, I&#039;ll take two, please! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jay, since you don&#8217;t care, I&#8217;ll take two, please! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#193 Harry, I would even give you the Orion slave girl, if you want.  What do I care? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#193 Harry, I would even give you the Orion slave girl, if you want.  What do I care? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: trektacular</title>
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		<dc:creator>trektacular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOS actors never had embarrassing acting moments, give me a f**king break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOS actors never had embarrassing acting moments, give me a f**king break!</p>
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		<title>By: trektacular</title>
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		<dc:creator>trektacular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>197. TNG was cringeworthy only in its 6th season, how dare you suggest otherwise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>197. TNG was cringeworthy only in its 6th season, how dare you suggest otherwise!</p>
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		<title>By: BaronByng</title>
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		<dc:creator>BaronByng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>182 - I agree it was bad storytelling. They sandwiched it in. It was not really a desirable situation either for the writers or the audience. If the cast had retired with dignity after TUC we wouldn&#039;t have this issue. 

Still, they did it, so we kinda have to live with it. Nimoy&#039;s comments about Kirk having been mouldering in the grave for a couple of decades rather puts the cap on that storyline. 

Plus, we got a spiffy new cinema-worthy Enterprise out of the bargain :)

I do agree with you that TNG characters never really translated well to the screen; every movie ends up being the Picard + Data Show every time out. That&#039;s partly due to logistics: you can&#039;t really give every character equal screen time, but you also can&#039;t do what a regular ensemble film does, which is to introduce the characters at the beginning. The cardboard-thin quality of the supporting characters, combined with wooden acting (Dr Crusher anyone? she makes me cringe every time she has more than technobabble to speak) just don&#039;t have enough presence to carry a film.

Most Trek films either assume you come to the theatre with a ton of backstory and knowledge, or throw out all that backstory in the service of what they think is a good plot. So I agree - the long-built characterizations from the TV show (Picard in particular) seem to go out the window for the sake of a movie. 

On top of that, even Patrick Stewart isn&#039;t immune to being a bit stiff and wooden at times. When he&#039;s being a Shakespearean commander and stern etc. he&#039;s great, and he has some good &quot;quiet&quot; moments, but -- and I don&#039;t know if this is just bad writing or poor actor choices -- he had his own number of out-of-character scenes that were cringeworthy...

I hate to say it, but there&#039;s so much going on in your typical episode of BSG nowadays, in terms of interpersonal dynamics and b-stories, to put entire seasons of Trek to shame. PLUS they have an arc. I haven&#039;t cringed once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>182 &#8211; I agree it was bad storytelling. They sandwiched it in. It was not really a desirable situation either for the writers or the audience. If the cast had retired with dignity after TUC we wouldn&#8217;t have this issue. </p>
<p>Still, they did it, so we kinda have to live with it. Nimoy&#8217;s comments about Kirk having been mouldering in the grave for a couple of decades rather puts the cap on that storyline. </p>
<p>Plus, we got a spiffy new cinema-worthy Enterprise out of the bargain :)</p>
<p>I do agree with you that TNG characters never really translated well to the screen; every movie ends up being the Picard + Data Show every time out. That&#8217;s partly due to logistics: you can&#8217;t really give every character equal screen time, but you also can&#8217;t do what a regular ensemble film does, which is to introduce the characters at the beginning. The cardboard-thin quality of the supporting characters, combined with wooden acting (Dr Crusher anyone? she makes me cringe every time she has more than technobabble to speak) just don&#8217;t have enough presence to carry a film.</p>
<p>Most Trek films either assume you come to the theatre with a ton of backstory and knowledge, or throw out all that backstory in the service of what they think is a good plot. So I agree &#8211; the long-built characterizations from the TV show (Picard in particular) seem to go out the window for the sake of a movie. </p>
<p>On top of that, even Patrick Stewart isn&#8217;t immune to being a bit stiff and wooden at times. When he&#8217;s being a Shakespearean commander and stern etc. he&#8217;s great, and he has some good &#8220;quiet&#8221; moments, but &#8212; and I don&#8217;t know if this is just bad writing or poor actor choices &#8212; he had his own number of out-of-character scenes that were cringeworthy&#8230;</p>
<p>I hate to say it, but there&#8217;s so much going on in your typical episode of BSG nowadays, in terms of interpersonal dynamics and b-stories, to put entire seasons of Trek to shame. PLUS they have an arc. I haven&#8217;t cringed once.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, whether it was Fireball XL5, Stingray or Supercar....I loved them ALL as a kid......don&#039;t step on my memories and I won&#039;t step on yours!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, whether it was Fireball XL5, Stingray or Supercar&#8230;.I loved them ALL as a kid&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t step on my memories and I won&#8217;t step on yours!!!</p>
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