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	<title>Comments on: Shatner On Being Poor, Almost Dying, &amp; The New Movie</title>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  #360. Xai

Thanks, Xai.  I know that  --  just forgot to quote my source.  I have been a fan of Battlestar Galactica since the beginning.  It&#039;s corny but I loved it with Starbuck and Apollo et al.  Didn’t like the later ones.  Tried to watch the remake but had to cancel the cable due to lack of finances (for luxuries).  It was interesting...  Never got into it in the same depth as Star Trek.

I love the Klingon language.  It seemed to be the one they used the most.  Possibly because of the number of main characters that were Klingon.  Worf in TNG, Worf again in DS9 along with General Martok, then B&#039;Elanna in Voyager.  They seemed to focus on the history/culture and it was fascinating.

Better go.  I tend to ramble on because I love Trek and enjoy discussing it with friends.</description>
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<p>Thanks, Xai.  I know that  &#8212;  just forgot to quote my source.  I have been a fan of Battlestar Galactica since the beginning.  It&#8217;s corny but I loved it with Starbuck and Apollo et al.  Didn’t like the later ones.  Tried to watch the remake but had to cancel the cable due to lack of finances (for luxuries).  It was interesting&#8230;  Never got into it in the same depth as Star Trek.</p>
<p>I love the Klingon language.  It seemed to be the one they used the most.  Possibly because of the number of main characters that were Klingon.  Worf in TNG, Worf again in DS9 along with General Martok, then B&#8217;Elanna in Voyager.  They seemed to focus on the history/culture and it was fascinating.</p>
<p>Better go.  I tend to ramble on because I love Trek and enjoy discussing it with friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie, I believe &quot;frack&quot; is a Galactica psuedo- swear word.</description>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/15/shatner-on-being-poor-almost-dying-the-new-movie/comment-page-8/#comment-406294</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry  --  I forgot to put the name beside the post # I was referring to (in case the numbers change as they are wont to do).  The post I made was regarding  #353 James - Wowbagger.

Nighty-night.

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry  &#8212;  I forgot to put the name beside the post # I was referring to (in case the numbers change as they are wont to do).  The post I made was regarding  #353 James &#8211; Wowbagger.</p>
<p>Nighty-night.</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  #353

One quick &quot;post&quot; before I go to sleep.

Did I detect some Klingon there?  Very clever.  A little bit like the word &quot;frack&quot; (another language in a different universe) except there&#039;s so much more of it.

That is part of what I love about Trek.  Some brilliantly-imaginative minds (or someone with too much time on their hands!) sat down and devised a culture and a language which some Trekkers are actually speaking to each other.  They did make up more (like a little bit of Bajoran mostly in DS9) but my favourite is the Klingon.  Don&#039;t remember it being in TOS.  Wasn&#039;t dreamed up then or just not used.  

Guess I&#039;m not into it on that level because I haven&#039;t really taken the time to learn it.  Just remember a bit from watching TNG and DS9 repeatedly.  A lot of the shows on TV have references to the geeks that speak Klingon, making fun of Star Trek (and it&#039;s fans) in general.  I feel sorry for them in the sense that they haven&#039;t discovered the wonder that we have.  (&quot;Kinda brings a tear to me eye...)

But it&#039;s been around since 1966 and will continue on, I believe, for a long time.  At least I hope it will.

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #353</p>
<p>One quick &#8220;post&#8221; before I go to sleep.</p>
<p>Did I detect some Klingon there?  Very clever.  A little bit like the word &#8220;frack&#8221; (another language in a different universe) except there&#8217;s so much more of it.</p>
<p>That is part of what I love about Trek.  Some brilliantly-imaginative minds (or someone with too much time on their hands!) sat down and devised a culture and a language which some Trekkers are actually speaking to each other.  They did make up more (like a little bit of Bajoran mostly in DS9) but my favourite is the Klingon.  Don&#8217;t remember it being in TOS.  Wasn&#8217;t dreamed up then or just not used.  </p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;m not into it on that level because I haven&#8217;t really taken the time to learn it.  Just remember a bit from watching TNG and DS9 repeatedly.  A lot of the shows on TV have references to the geeks that speak Klingon, making fun of Star Trek (and it&#8217;s fans) in general.  I feel sorry for them in the sense that they haven&#8217;t discovered the wonder that we have.  (&#8221;Kinda brings a tear to me eye&#8230;)</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s been around since 1966 and will continue on, I believe, for a long time.  At least I hope it will.</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  #353. James - Wowbagger 

Sorry, not ignoring you.  Actually went to bed early.  Needed a break from it all.  However, I will admit that the one post really shook me up  --  literally.  I was trembling.  When my husband asked what was wrong and I told him, he was stunned then angry.  I told him not to worry about it.  As all things do, it shall pass.

Don&#039;t worry  --  I learned years ago not to judge a group by a few individuals.  I have enjoyed this site, even despite of the &quot;detour&quot; shall we say.  Am thrilled to see all the ideas here about Star Trek  --  most I had never thought of.  Don&#039;t know what it is about Star Trek that has people so enthralled.  You all (y’all) have much more of an imagination than I do.  Reading the posts stimulate my SciFi thoughts.  And I love it when the big guns contribute (Orci, etc.)  It&#039;s Like I said, I&#039;ve been watching it faithfully since 1966 (when I was a child!).  Actually, I was but not too young to miss the adventurous aspect and a little of the humour.

The other SciFi series/fliks didn&#039;t grab my imagination as Trek did (Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars, Buck Rogers...  --  okay, nix that last one.)  Really enjoyed Star Wars (IV, V, VI) and still watch it occasionally.  It&#039;s prequels didn&#039;t do much for me  --  not sure why  --  but I will still watch them the odd time as well.  It&#039;s Star Trek for me.  I love all of the series from TOS to Enterprise.  Obviously each series has some episodes which are excellent and each even have some turkeys (although I&#039;d be hard-pressed to remember which).

Am so thankful that William Shatner got the part along with Nimoy.  (I would ABSOLUTE LOVE TO KNOW who was up for the parts and who all auditioned for every single part.)  Everyone made it what it is and thank God for film so it will continue to thrill each time I watch.  My one Trekker friend and I still laugh at all the jokes (from TOS to Enterprise) although haven&#039;t seen Enterprise for a while.  Can&#039;t afford the luxury of the DVDs right now and have missed it terribly since I cancelled Cable.  My friend purchased the DVDs of TOS and Voyager so we&#039;re doing okay.  She&#039;ll get TNG next.  However, I&#039;ll have to buy DS9 because she wasn&#039;t thrilled with it like I was (am!).

So don&#039;t worry.  It looks like Anthony is handling it.  I should send him a post thanking him for this incredible idea of being able to communicate with fellow Trekkers.  (Personally I don&#039;t mind &quot;Trekkie&quot; but for those of you who do, I shall refrain from using it.)  I didn&#039;t post a thank-you on the &quot;Feedback&quot; thread yet because I didn&#039;t want it to appear like shallow, bribing flattery while the other stuff was going on.

So, hope to continually stay in touch with everyone.  I&#039;ll be busy today so see you later.  Will be praying for A also.  Feel badly about the whole thing.

Wowbagger
Orbitalic
Closettrekker
Vulcanista
Xai
trektacular
Harry B

&quot;See you around the galaxy!&quot;  Or maybe later tonight.

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #353. James &#8211; Wowbagger </p>
<p>Sorry, not ignoring you.  Actually went to bed early.  Needed a break from it all.  However, I will admit that the one post really shook me up  &#8212;  literally.  I was trembling.  When my husband asked what was wrong and I told him, he was stunned then angry.  I told him not to worry about it.  As all things do, it shall pass.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry  &#8212;  I learned years ago not to judge a group by a few individuals.  I have enjoyed this site, even despite of the &#8220;detour&#8221; shall we say.  Am thrilled to see all the ideas here about Star Trek  &#8212;  most I had never thought of.  Don&#8217;t know what it is about Star Trek that has people so enthralled.  You all (y’all) have much more of an imagination than I do.  Reading the posts stimulate my SciFi thoughts.  And I love it when the big guns contribute (Orci, etc.)  It&#8217;s Like I said, I&#8217;ve been watching it faithfully since 1966 (when I was a child!).  Actually, I was but not too young to miss the adventurous aspect and a little of the humour.</p>
<p>The other SciFi series/fliks didn&#8217;t grab my imagination as Trek did (Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars, Buck Rogers&#8230;  &#8212;  okay, nix that last one.)  Really enjoyed Star Wars (IV, V, VI) and still watch it occasionally.  It&#8217;s prequels didn&#8217;t do much for me  &#8212;  not sure why  &#8212;  but I will still watch them the odd time as well.  It&#8217;s Star Trek for me.  I love all of the series from TOS to Enterprise.  Obviously each series has some episodes which are excellent and each even have some turkeys (although I&#8217;d be hard-pressed to remember which).</p>
<p>Am so thankful that William Shatner got the part along with Nimoy.  (I would ABSOLUTE LOVE TO KNOW who was up for the parts and who all auditioned for every single part.)  Everyone made it what it is and thank God for film so it will continue to thrill each time I watch.  My one Trekker friend and I still laugh at all the jokes (from TOS to Enterprise) although haven&#8217;t seen Enterprise for a while.  Can&#8217;t afford the luxury of the DVDs right now and have missed it terribly since I cancelled Cable.  My friend purchased the DVDs of TOS and Voyager so we&#8217;re doing okay.  She&#8217;ll get TNG next.  However, I&#8217;ll have to buy DS9 because she wasn&#8217;t thrilled with it like I was (am!).</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t worry.  It looks like Anthony is handling it.  I should send him a post thanking him for this incredible idea of being able to communicate with fellow Trekkers.  (Personally I don&#8217;t mind &#8220;Trekkie&#8221; but for those of you who do, I shall refrain from using it.)  I didn&#8217;t post a thank-you on the &#8220;Feedback&#8221; thread yet because I didn&#8217;t want it to appear like shallow, bribing flattery while the other stuff was going on.</p>
<p>So, hope to continually stay in touch with everyone.  I&#8217;ll be busy today so see you later.  Will be praying for A also.  Feel badly about the whole thing.</p>
<p>Wowbagger<br />
Orbitalic<br />
Closettrekker<br />
Vulcanista<br />
Xai<br />
trektacular<br />
Harry B</p>
<p>&#8220;See you around the galaxy!&#8221;  Or maybe later tonight.</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Orbitalic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orbitalic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good night Wowbanger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good night Wowbanger</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK folks I had no idea this was still going...and it is all very unpleasant. 

A. -- you are wrong and you have moved into serious trolling and flaming territory. You have a simple choice...apologize and move on, or be banned.

Everyone else...don&#039;t take the bait. And don&#039;t become backseat admins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK folks I had no idea this was still going&#8230;and it is all very unpleasant. </p>
<p>A. &#8212; you are wrong and you have moved into serious trolling and flaming territory. You have a simple choice&#8230;apologize and move on, or be banned.</p>
<p>Everyone else&#8230;don&#8217;t take the bait. And don&#8217;t become backseat admins.</p>
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		<title>By: Orbitalic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orbitalic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A.
I could post a note to the Pope and Castro and you&#039;d feel the need to respond.
That post addressed Katie, not A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.<br />
I could post a note to the Pope and Castro and you&#8217;d feel the need to respond.<br />
That post addressed Katie, not A.</p>
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		<title>By: James - Wowbagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>James - Wowbagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My internet crashed last night.  It&#039;s actually still down; I&#039;m working on someone else&#039;s computer.  This is fine, because I won&#039;t be returning to this thread.  A., if I ever encounter you outside the Internet, I&#039;ll slug you like Sisko in &quot;Q-Less&quot;.  Who the frack raised you to talk to women--heck, to anyone--the way you did to Katie G.?  I presume someone in your life would be ashamed of you to know what you wrote.  That someone is not you, because you are apparently shameless.

Katie: since you&#039;ve indicated that you&#039;re new, I want to say this: I&#039;ve been doing Star Trek fan boards since shortly before Enterprise began, which means I&#039;ve been at this for just about seven years now.  The online Trek community is one of the friendliest groups of people I have ever encountered, and it&#039;s someplace I try to drop by on a regular basis.  I&#039;ve met thousands of people here and other places, made dozens of friends, and had arguments--sometimes heated ones--with scores more.  Never in all my years have I encountered someone so deeply personal, vicious, and childish as A.  I actively work with twelve-year-olds who are ten times his age.  Even the Sinister Six, contemptible trolls though they were (long story), had certain standards of discourse.  And do you know why?  Because *we&#039;re all Star Trek fans*.  We all *believe* in the IDIC and in heroism and in the basic goodness of humanity!  By the Great Bird, we don&#039;t act like A. does with *anyone*, much less with each other!

In short, I beg of you not to judge the fan community by this one petty sociopath we have discovered.  Check out a few for yourself.  Join one of the Voyager caption contests at TrekBBS.com, or contribute to the 100,000-post-long Trip Tucker/Connor Trineer is HOT! thread at TrekUnited.com, or watch the fanfilm &quot;World Enough and Time&quot; from StarTrekNewVoyages.com (props if you&#039;ve already done any of the above).  This is a good and happy and very large community, and it would be our loss to see someone like you driven away by this perverse yIntagh.

Like I said, I&#039;m done.  I&#039;ve been here because A. amused me.  I am no longer remotely amused.  A., much as it pains me, I&#039;ll be praying for you.  Till now, it&#039;s been fun, and I hope I see the rest of you in other threads and, perhaps, in other corners of the Treksphere.   

Or, to quote Q:  &quot;I&#039;ll see you... out there...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My internet crashed last night.  It&#8217;s actually still down; I&#8217;m working on someone else&#8217;s computer.  This is fine, because I won&#8217;t be returning to this thread.  A., if I ever encounter you outside the Internet, I&#8217;ll slug you like Sisko in &#8220;Q-Less&#8221;.  Who the frack raised you to talk to women&#8211;heck, to anyone&#8211;the way you did to Katie G.?  I presume someone in your life would be ashamed of you to know what you wrote.  That someone is not you, because you are apparently shameless.</p>
<p>Katie: since you&#8217;ve indicated that you&#8217;re new, I want to say this: I&#8217;ve been doing Star Trek fan boards since shortly before Enterprise began, which means I&#8217;ve been at this for just about seven years now.  The online Trek community is one of the friendliest groups of people I have ever encountered, and it&#8217;s someplace I try to drop by on a regular basis.  I&#8217;ve met thousands of people here and other places, made dozens of friends, and had arguments&#8211;sometimes heated ones&#8211;with scores more.  Never in all my years have I encountered someone so deeply personal, vicious, and childish as A.  I actively work with twelve-year-olds who are ten times his age.  Even the Sinister Six, contemptible trolls though they were (long story), had certain standards of discourse.  And do you know why?  Because *we&#8217;re all Star Trek fans*.  We all *believe* in the IDIC and in heroism and in the basic goodness of humanity!  By the Great Bird, we don&#8217;t act like A. does with *anyone*, much less with each other!</p>
<p>In short, I beg of you not to judge the fan community by this one petty sociopath we have discovered.  Check out a few for yourself.  Join one of the Voyager caption contests at TrekBBS.com, or contribute to the 100,000-post-long Trip Tucker/Connor Trineer is HOT! thread at TrekUnited.com, or watch the fanfilm &#8220;World Enough and Time&#8221; from StarTrekNewVoyages.com (props if you&#8217;ve already done any of the above).  This is a good and happy and very large community, and it would be our loss to see someone like you driven away by this perverse yIntagh.</p>
<p>Like I said, I&#8217;m done.  I&#8217;ve been here because A. amused me.  I am no longer remotely amused.  A., much as it pains me, I&#8217;ll be praying for you.  Till now, it&#8217;s been fun, and I hope I see the rest of you in other threads and, perhaps, in other corners of the Treksphere.   </p>
<p>Or, to quote Q:  &#8220;I&#8217;ll see you&#8230; out there&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>350. Orbitalic - January 19, 2008 
&quot;Katie G

It wasn’t taken in the spirit intended.

If I am booted, hang in there, it’s a good site &quot;

If you&#039;re booted?  Hang in there? 
Wow, I had no idea I had so much power over you too.  I feel so omnipotent.  Able to cause Kate G to leave?  Get you kicked off.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>350. Orbitalic &#8211; January 19, 2008<br />
&#8220;Katie G</p>
<p>It wasn’t taken in the spirit intended.</p>
<p>If I am booted, hang in there, it’s a good site &#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re booted?  Hang in there?<br />
Wow, I had no idea I had so much power over you too.  I feel so omnipotent.  Able to cause Kate G to leave?  Get you kicked off.  LOL</p>
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