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		<title>By: LOL: Princess of Mars Teaser Trailer, From The Asylum &#124; Top Movies &#38; Blockbusters &#124; News, Reviews, Trailers, Photos, DVDs</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOL: Princess of Mars Teaser Trailer, From The Asylum &#124; Top Movies &#38; Blockbusters &#124; News, Reviews, Trailers, Photos, DVDs</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To avoid duplication and to avoid this thing hitting the quadruple digits. I am moving discussion of the teaser image into the review for the teaser

CLICKY TO CONTINUE THE CONVO
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To avoid duplication and to avoid this thing hitting the quadruple digits. I am moving discussion of the teaser image into the review for the teaser</p>
<p>CLICKY TO CONTINUE THE CONVO<br />
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		<title>By: OR Coast Trekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>OR Coast Trekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great looking ship... that&#039;s all I gotta say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great looking ship&#8230; that&#8217;s all I gotta say</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#856 old sf guy
I agree - I remember seeing a documentary of the construction of a cruise ship and what they did was build the frame and the hull in dry dock - floated it and then did a lot of the interior work with the boat floating at port.  They could do something like this with the Enterprise.  I am curious how they would get it from the surface to orbit.  My guess would be they would partially disassemble it and haul individual components (nacelles, saucer section, engineering hull etc.) up separately.  I doubt we would ever see this on screen since I don&#039;t see it being vital to the story.  Perhaps the production team will write a book for all of us tekkies who are interested in such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#856 old sf guy<br />
I agree &#8211; I remember seeing a documentary of the construction of a cruise ship and what they did was build the frame and the hull in dry dock &#8211; floated it and then did a lot of the interior work with the boat floating at port.  They could do something like this with the Enterprise.  I am curious how they would get it from the surface to orbit.  My guess would be they would partially disassemble it and haul individual components (nacelles, saucer section, engineering hull etc.) up separately.  I doubt we would ever see this on screen since I don&#8217;t see it being vital to the story.  Perhaps the production team will write a book for all of us tekkies who are interested in such things.</p>
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		<title>By: old sf guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>old sf guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several authors of &quot;Golden Age&quot; science fiction wrote stories about construction in space.  The general consensus:  it&#039;s dangerous as hell.  Another thought:  the idea of building a spaceship &quot;on the ground&quot; has precedent in construction practices for ships that sail on water.  You don&#039;t build them *in* the water, you build them on dry land and launch them.  Imagine, for example, trying to build a submarine in its natural environment...  Also, remember how NASA builds &#039;em.  Anyone remember the Vehicle Assembly Building?  One doesn&#039;t build a rocket as a single entity; one builds components and assemble and erect them near the launch point.  MUCH safer for workers to do fabrication on the ground, in atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several authors of &#8220;Golden Age&#8221; science fiction wrote stories about construction in space.  The general consensus:  it&#8217;s dangerous as hell.  Another thought:  the idea of building a spaceship &#8220;on the ground&#8221; has precedent in construction practices for ships that sail on water.  You don&#8217;t build them *in* the water, you build them on dry land and launch them.  Imagine, for example, trying to build a submarine in its natural environment&#8230;  Also, remember how NASA builds &#8216;em.  Anyone remember the Vehicle Assembly Building?  One doesn&#8217;t build a rocket as a single entity; one builds components and assemble and erect them near the launch point.  MUCH safer for workers to do fabrication on the ground, in atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: trektacular</title>
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		<dc:creator>trektacular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roykirk, is it old Nimoy or new Nimoy we hear in the voiceover?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roykirk, is it old Nimoy or new Nimoy we hear in the voiceover?</p>
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		<title>By: TrekMadeMeWonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrekMadeMeWonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>853. Jackson Roykirk 

[The crowd, who were probably not expecting anything Trek, were audibly surprised. There was a collective “Wow!” ]

You can&#039;t  get that experience at home!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>853. Jackson Roykirk </p>
<p>[The crowd, who were probably not expecting anything Trek, were audibly surprised. There was a collective “Wow!” ]</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t  get that experience at home!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Roykirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Roykirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw Cloverfield and the Trek teaser.  I won&#039;t spoil it with specific details, but I&#039;ll tell you what the soundtrack was like in general.  

First there are some sound bites of dead presidents orating on the space program, then Nimoy does a voice over, then there was the distinctive TOS transporter sound effect.  I guess we&#039;ll be hearing lots of the old familiar sounds in &#039;08.

The crowd, who were probably not expecting anything Trek, were audibly surprised.  There was a collective &quot;Wow!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw Cloverfield and the Trek teaser.  I won&#8217;t spoil it with specific details, but I&#8217;ll tell you what the soundtrack was like in general.  </p>
<p>First there are some sound bites of dead presidents orating on the space program, then Nimoy does a voice over, then there was the distinctive TOS transporter sound effect.  I guess we&#8217;ll be hearing lots of the old familiar sounds in &#8216;08.</p>
<p>The crowd, who were probably not expecting anything Trek, were audibly surprised.  There was a collective &#8220;Wow!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bernd Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernd Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a frakking re-imagination.

Deck 1 is enlarged at the expense of deck 2, which is flatter and apparently submerged. The top of the bridge with the dome is very much like in TMP, practically denying that the TOS look ever existed. The same with the slits at the bottom. A very unimaginative rip-off of the TMP bridge.

The TMP hull plating is fine with me though, because it gives the ship a realistic feel. And I don&#039;t mind the hull font, although I wonder why they should go forth and then back to the USAF font for TOS. In order to decide whether the saucer hull curvature and the diameter is correct I would have to see more.

The nacelles don&#039;t look like they could be the TOS type. They are more streamlined, perhaps even &quot;organic&quot; (there is some sort of ripple on the inside). But they don&#039;t have to be the very same type that we know at the time the ship was being built - only that my apprehension (and almost a certainty) is that it will still look exactly the same when Kirk takes over the ship later in the movie and just prior to TOS.

So overall it is not the awful BSG-Koerner-style redesign. It is rather pleasantly boring from my point-of-view, but different enough to invalidate the TOS Enterprise, the ship that was only recently faithfully reconstructed for the remastered episodes. Particularly I don&#039;t approve of the re-use of typical TMP elements which are just not suited to insinuate that it is an older version of the Enterprise. It may have been meant to limit the damage but it lets the TOS ship look like it has never existed. Some ENT-style elemnts would have been much better, at least for the Enterprise under construction, which is the only version that is allowed to be redesigned in the first place.

Based on what we already see I bet that
1) the engineering hull is rounded more like the TMP version than the TOS version.
2) the shuttlebay door is sloped more like the TMP version than the TOS version.
3) the nacelle struts are thinner but sloped more like the TMP version than the TOS version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a frakking re-imagination.</p>
<p>Deck 1 is enlarged at the expense of deck 2, which is flatter and apparently submerged. The top of the bridge with the dome is very much like in TMP, practically denying that the TOS look ever existed. The same with the slits at the bottom. A very unimaginative rip-off of the TMP bridge.</p>
<p>The TMP hull plating is fine with me though, because it gives the ship a realistic feel. And I don&#8217;t mind the hull font, although I wonder why they should go forth and then back to the USAF font for TOS. In order to decide whether the saucer hull curvature and the diameter is correct I would have to see more.</p>
<p>The nacelles don&#8217;t look like they could be the TOS type. They are more streamlined, perhaps even &#8220;organic&#8221; (there is some sort of ripple on the inside). But they don&#8217;t have to be the very same type that we know at the time the ship was being built &#8211; only that my apprehension (and almost a certainty) is that it will still look exactly the same when Kirk takes over the ship later in the movie and just prior to TOS.</p>
<p>So overall it is not the awful BSG-Koerner-style redesign. It is rather pleasantly boring from my point-of-view, but different enough to invalidate the TOS Enterprise, the ship that was only recently faithfully reconstructed for the remastered episodes. Particularly I don&#8217;t approve of the re-use of typical TMP elements which are just not suited to insinuate that it is an older version of the Enterprise. It may have been meant to limit the damage but it lets the TOS ship look like it has never existed. Some ENT-style elemnts would have been much better, at least for the Enterprise under construction, which is the only version that is allowed to be redesigned in the first place.</p>
<p>Based on what we already see I bet that<br />
1) the engineering hull is rounded more like the TMP version than the TOS version.<br />
2) the shuttlebay door is sloped more like the TMP version than the TOS version.<br />
3) the nacelle struts are thinner but sloped more like the TMP version than the TOS version.</p>
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		<title>By: TrekMadeMeWonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrekMadeMeWonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Makers&#039; of Trek XI

Can we please establish that if you lose the main engines then you also lose gravity on the ship throughout?

That&#039;s serious thinking and makes for a more mature depiction too.

It&#039;s the only way I see that is feesable for ther to be gravity across all the decks unifomally. And the Zero G enviroment was a real surprise for me when I saw it happen to the Klingon ship in Trek VI. 

Now that WAS cool and smart thinking!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Makers&#8217; of Trek XI</p>
<p>Can we please establish that if you lose the main engines then you also lose gravity on the ship throughout?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s serious thinking and makes for a more mature depiction too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the only way I see that is feesable for ther to be gravity across all the decks unifomally. And the Zero G enviroment was a real surprise for me when I saw it happen to the Klingon ship in Trek VI. </p>
<p>Now that WAS cool and smart thinking!!!</p>
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