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	<title>Comments on: Abrams On Shatner and Star Trek Audience</title>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very excited for the new Star Trek.  I hope they get Shatner in it.  It would be cool if they are able to end it with Kirk alive again....  Perhaps the whole movie is a flash back from Spock&#039;s perspective.... looking back on his years with Kirk.  Maybe he&#039;s talking with someone... and we don&#039;t know who.  Finally at the end of the movie the camera pans and we see he&#039;s talking with Shatner/Kirk.  And Kirk says, &quot;Thanks for coming back for me, old friend.&quot;  No explanation as to the details would be needed...  just that somehow Spock pulled it off... and Kirk is back.  This would be good for the franchise anyway... I&#039;m more interested in young Kirk knowing that old Kirk doesn&#039;t die as shown in Generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very excited for the new Star Trek.  I hope they get Shatner in it.  It would be cool if they are able to end it with Kirk alive again&#8230;.  Perhaps the whole movie is a flash back from Spock&#8217;s perspective&#8230;. looking back on his years with Kirk.  Maybe he&#8217;s talking with someone&#8230; and we don&#8217;t know who.  Finally at the end of the movie the camera pans and we see he&#8217;s talking with Shatner/Kirk.  And Kirk says, &#8220;Thanks for coming back for me, old friend.&#8221;  No explanation as to the details would be needed&#8230;  just that somehow Spock pulled it off&#8230; and Kirk is back.  This would be good for the franchise anyway&#8230; I&#8217;m more interested in young Kirk knowing that old Kirk doesn&#8217;t die as shown in Generations.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>204 Assortments

He&#039;s being respectful to it, but keep in mind that regardless how much time, energy and $$ you and I may have in it. We don&#039;t own it. I believe Abrams will do fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>204 Assortments</p>
<p>He&#8217;s being respectful to it, but keep in mind that regardless how much time, energy and $$ you and I may have in it. We don&#8217;t own it. I believe Abrams will do fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Assortments Today &#187; Star Trek teaser trailer and thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assortments Today &#187; Star Trek teaser trailer and thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One last thought: I listened to portions of an interview Abrams gave that is posted on TrekMovie.com where he says that he&#8217;s making the film for the fans, but the truth is that it&#8217;s for people who don&#8217;t know anything about Star Trek. Fine. But I&#8217;d just like to say that when you have a franchise with over 40 years of history, and when many, many fans have poured time and energy into immersing themselves in that mythology, you better be respectful to it! No matter how much hype develops around this movie, Star Trek is and will remain far bigger than anything we see on the big screen this December. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One last thought: I listened to portions of an interview Abrams gave that is posted on TrekMovie.com where he says that he&#8217;s making the film for the fans, but the truth is that it&#8217;s for people who don&#8217;t know anything about Star Trek. Fine. But I&#8217;d just like to say that when you have a franchise with over 40 years of history, and when many, many fans have poured time and energy into immersing themselves in that mythology, you better be respectful to it! No matter how much hype develops around this movie, Star Trek is and will remain far bigger than anything we see on the big screen this December. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jimi walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimi walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im with u mate .....if loads of actors can play macbeth [ sorry &#039;the scottish play&#039;] then why not accept a different take on Kirk?
ive been watching the franchise for 41years since i was 6 and ive been entertained throughout [barring a few notable exceptions]

i,like the rest of you i suspect, am optimistic that this could be our future if we ever learn to trust each other enough to form a world govt. 
But i believe that certian sociological changes are already  progressing towards that ...ie in 50-100years there will only be 4  common languages on our planet and eventually just one ! this will go miles towards bringing us together .
so its not totally improbable that in 400years we would have solved most if not all of our social problems  and by doing so been able to pool our resources and brng about the liberation of the human race 

which is after all what this great saga is all about ..
anyway back to the point 
i like abrahms as a director and producer  we need new blood ..

bring it on mate ....i wait with bated  breath for your masterpiece 
anyway soon with cgi technology advancing exponentionally they could rebuild the original TOS crew without EVER having them get any older 

unfortunately the studios with this sort of power would ressurect every aweful franchise and screw it up for the rest of us.

tell u what tho id like to see a big budget remake of voyage to the bottom of the sea ...now theres a thot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im with u mate &#8230;..if loads of actors can play macbeth [ sorry 'the scottish play'] then why not accept a different take on Kirk?<br />
ive been watching the franchise for 41years since i was 6 and ive been entertained throughout [barring a few notable exceptions]</p>
<p>i,like the rest of you i suspect, am optimistic that this could be our future if we ever learn to trust each other enough to form a world govt.<br />
But i believe that certian sociological changes are already  progressing towards that &#8230;ie in 50-100years there will only be 4  common languages on our planet and eventually just one ! this will go miles towards bringing us together .<br />
so its not totally improbable that in 400years we would have solved most if not all of our social problems  and by doing so been able to pool our resources and brng about the liberation of the human race </p>
<p>which is after all what this great saga is all about ..<br />
anyway back to the point<br />
i like abrahms as a director and producer  we need new blood ..</p>
<p>bring it on mate &#8230;.i wait with bated  breath for your masterpiece<br />
anyway soon with cgi technology advancing exponentionally they could rebuild the original TOS crew without EVER having them get any older </p>
<p>unfortunately the studios with this sort of power would ressurect every aweful franchise and screw it up for the rest of us.</p>
<p>tell u what tho id like to see a big budget remake of voyage to the bottom of the sea &#8230;now theres a thot</p>
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		<title>By: jimi walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimi walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im with u mate .....if loads of actors can play macbeth [ sorry &#039;the scottish play&#039;] then why not accept a different take on Kirk?
ive been watching the franchise for 41years since i was 6 and ive been entertained throughout [barring a few notable exceptions]

i,like the rest of you i suspect, am optimistic that this could be our future if we ever learn to trust each other enough to form a world govt. 
But i believe that certian sociological changes are already  progressing towards that ...ie in 50-100years there will only be 4  common languages on our planet and eventually just one ! this will go miles towards bringing us together .
so its not totally improbable that in 400years we would have solved most if not all of our social problems  and by doing so been able to pool our resources and brng about the liberation of the human race 

which is after all what this great saga is all about ..
anyway back to the point 
i like abrahms as a director and producer  we need new blood ..

bring it on mate ....i wait with bated  breath for your masterpiece 
anyway soon with cgi technology advancing exponentionally they could rebuild the original TOS crew without EVER having them get any older 

unfortunately the studios with this sort of power would ressurect every aweful franchise and screw it up for the rest of us.

tell u what tho id like to see a big budget remake of voyage to the bottom of the sea ...now theres a thot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im with u mate &#8230;..if loads of actors can play macbeth [ sorry 'the scottish play'] then why not accept a different take on Kirk?<br />
ive been watching the franchise for 41years since i was 6 and ive been entertained throughout [barring a few notable exceptions]</p>
<p>i,like the rest of you i suspect, am optimistic that this could be our future if we ever learn to trust each other enough to form a world govt.<br />
But i believe that certian sociological changes are already  progressing towards that &#8230;ie in 50-100years there will only be 4  common languages on our planet and eventually just one ! this will go miles towards bringing us together .<br />
so its not totally improbable that in 400years we would have solved most if not all of our social problems  and by doing so been able to pool our resources and brng about the liberation of the human race </p>
<p>which is after all what this great saga is all about ..<br />
anyway back to the point<br />
i like abrahms as a director and producer  we need new blood ..</p>
<p>bring it on mate &#8230;.i wait with bated  breath for your masterpiece<br />
anyway soon with cgi technology advancing exponentionally they could rebuild the original TOS crew without EVER having them get any older </p>
<p>unfortunately the studios with this sort of power would ressurect every aweful franchise and screw it up for the rest of us.</p>
<p>tell u what tho id like to see a big budget remake of voyage to the bottom of the sea &#8230;now theres a thot</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s gonna happen when Bill and Leonard die? Oh, that&#039;s right, we should just stop making movies with the original characters all together. While we&#039;re at it, why don&#039;t we stop making Shakespeare, Miller, Simon and Williams plays too. Wouldn&#039;t want to insult the memories of the actors that originated the parts in all those productions, would we?

When are you people gonna learn? Kirk is a part that can be played by any competent actor. I don&#039;t know Chris Pine&#039;s work, but if J.J. picked him (yes, directors get to pick) then it&#039;s OK by me. If you want to see Shatner, then you have a ton of stuff to watch. Someone leak a call sheet because until I see one with his name on it, he ain&#039;t in it.

I suspect everyone on this thread that says, &quot;No Shatner, no deal,&quot; will line up 5 days before the opening to watch the first midnight showing. Because, we&#039;re all Trek&#039;s bitches. It&#039;s a fact. Live with it or go cold turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s gonna happen when Bill and Leonard die? Oh, that&#8217;s right, we should just stop making movies with the original characters all together. While we&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t we stop making Shakespeare, Miller, Simon and Williams plays too. Wouldn&#8217;t want to insult the memories of the actors that originated the parts in all those productions, would we?</p>
<p>When are you people gonna learn? Kirk is a part that can be played by any competent actor. I don&#8217;t know Chris Pine&#8217;s work, but if J.J. picked him (yes, directors get to pick) then it&#8217;s OK by me. If you want to see Shatner, then you have a ton of stuff to watch. Someone leak a call sheet because until I see one with his name on it, he ain&#8217;t in it.</p>
<p>I suspect everyone on this thread that says, &#8220;No Shatner, no deal,&#8221; will line up 5 days before the opening to watch the first midnight showing. Because, we&#8217;re all Trek&#8217;s bitches. It&#8217;s a fact. Live with it or go cold turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>181. A. - January 19, 2008
166. Shatner_Fan_2000 - January 19, 2008

You two decide who said what, I&#039;m not going to be double teamed here.
“#159 “He doesn’t want a cameo… he wants the star treatment again.”

I’d like to see your source for that claim, Xai? Oh, right. You don’t have one - you made it up!”

He does that constantly.

“including insulting JJ”

“Again … source, please? Making stuff up gets really annoying, fyi.”

Try visiting the other thread, he makes up all kinds of stuff.

A. 
  He wants in.
  He&#039;s been quoted on this site saying he doesn&#039;t want a cameo.
  He&#039;s complained about the &quot;bad&quot; business decision as well as &quot;silly and stupid&quot;. But you already know all this and I don&#039;t feel the need to trace this down when this is common knowledge. 

A, .We&#039;ve &quot;discussed&quot; this on the other thread.  He complained and you said it was &quot;feedback&quot; among other things. Now you say he said nothing at all. Let us know when you have made up your mind.
  And yes, let&#039;s DO invite all the posters back to the other Shatner thread and see how that all went down. I think Anthony left a message to you there as well. I&#039;m done with your troll and bait game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>181. A. &#8211; January 19, 2008<br />
166. Shatner_Fan_2000 &#8211; January 19, 2008</p>
<p>You two decide who said what, I&#8217;m not going to be double teamed here.<br />
“#159 “He doesn’t want a cameo… he wants the star treatment again.”</p>
<p>I’d like to see your source for that claim, Xai? Oh, right. You don’t have one &#8211; you made it up!”</p>
<p>He does that constantly.</p>
<p>“including insulting JJ”</p>
<p>“Again … source, please? Making stuff up gets really annoying, fyi.”</p>
<p>Try visiting the other thread, he makes up all kinds of stuff.</p>
<p>A.<br />
  He wants in.<br />
  He&#8217;s been quoted on this site saying he doesn&#8217;t want a cameo.<br />
  He&#8217;s complained about the &#8220;bad&#8221; business decision as well as &#8220;silly and stupid&#8221;. But you already know all this and I don&#8217;t feel the need to trace this down when this is common knowledge. </p>
<p>A, .We&#8217;ve &#8220;discussed&#8221; this on the other thread.  He complained and you said it was &#8220;feedback&#8221; among other things. Now you say he said nothing at all. Let us know when you have made up your mind.<br />
  And yes, let&#8217;s DO invite all the posters back to the other Shatner thread and see how that all went down. I think Anthony left a message to you there as well. I&#8217;m done with your troll and bait game.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 said:
&gt;Hopefully we will finally see all of what Star Trek could be. 

We already have. It was called DS9. Too bad we will never see that cast again, whether in a film or miniseries, even though the show ended wide open for a reunion/continuation to their storyline. 

Anyhow, I have no interest in this new film. ST10 should&#039;ve been a conclusion/resolution to the Spock on Romulus (with the TNG crew) storyline instead of the travesty that was Nemesis.

Even if the new movie deals with Spock on Romulus, I&#039;m not interested in seeing other actors play the original cast. I think the casting has been lousy to say the least.

Rumors that the new movie will have Kirk beating the Kobyashi Maru by seducing a female tech, and getting her to change the programming, strike me as shallow and insulting. It&#039;s not what I had in mind as the &quot;original thinking&quot; that Kirk was commended for. But then, I don&#039;t think Abrams gives a rip about continuity.

If people want to see this, and if they end up enjoying it, that&#039;s great. I just won&#039;t be supporting it. There&#039;s a lot of other things I&#039;d have rather seen Star Trek do than just a &quot;re-imagining&quot; of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 said:<br />
&gt;Hopefully we will finally see all of what Star Trek could be. </p>
<p>We already have. It was called DS9. Too bad we will never see that cast again, whether in a film or miniseries, even though the show ended wide open for a reunion/continuation to their storyline. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I have no interest in this new film. ST10 should&#8217;ve been a conclusion/resolution to the Spock on Romulus (with the TNG crew) storyline instead of the travesty that was Nemesis.</p>
<p>Even if the new movie deals with Spock on Romulus, I&#8217;m not interested in seeing other actors play the original cast. I think the casting has been lousy to say the least.</p>
<p>Rumors that the new movie will have Kirk beating the Kobyashi Maru by seducing a female tech, and getting her to change the programming, strike me as shallow and insulting. It&#8217;s not what I had in mind as the &#8220;original thinking&#8221; that Kirk was commended for. But then, I don&#8217;t think Abrams gives a rip about continuity.</p>
<p>If people want to see this, and if they end up enjoying it, that&#8217;s great. I just won&#8217;t be supporting it. There&#8217;s a lot of other things I&#8217;d have rather seen Star Trek do than just a &#8220;re-imagining&#8221; of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prospero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind, given what creative fans of the future will doubtless be able to do on their home computers, I am sure there will be numerous versions of this movie featuring William Shatner :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, given what creative fans of the future will doubtless be able to do on their home computers, I am sure there will be numerous versions of this movie featuring William Shatner :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner_Fan_2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner_Fan_2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#179 &quot;Trek is not centered on Kirk. He just happened to be the captain in the first series. I cringed when I saw Shatner and most of the rest of the crew in the last couple of movies.&quot;

Then you&#039;re a shallow, ageist (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#179 &#8220;Trek is not centered on Kirk. He just happened to be the captain in the first series. I cringed when I saw Shatner and most of the rest of the crew in the last couple of movies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you&#8217;re a shallow, ageist (</p>
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