Star Trek Teaser Trailer Online Now + New Viral Site [UPDATE + Screenshots] January 21, 2008
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackbackThe Trek teaser is now available (including HD) at the new official site…GO!.
Enterprise Shipyard Online
If you look closely on the offiical site you will see a tiny red dot next to ‘UNDER CONSTRUCTION.’ Click that dot and you are taken to a special new site at ncc-1701.com showing you four ‘webcam’ like images of the Enterprise under construction from the “Shipyard.” Each camera seems to go ‘online’ and ‘offline.’ There are also sliders under each which changes a setting. Go to ncc-1701.com and play around.
UPDATE: Settings for cameras and screenshot
If you don’t want to play around…then the setting are [CAM 1: 564, CAM 2: 125, CAM 3: 955, CAM 4: 289]. Only three seem to be able to be seen at one time so you have to refresh your screen. Below is a shot of all four cams working and set right (click to enlarge)
UPDATE2:Secret Image
If you wait long enough the ‘offline’ camera will activate and show you a corridor…check it out
UPDATE: click to see enlarged version with brightness added
Teaser also available at…
For today the trailer is available on a limited basis. In addition to the official site it is available (offiically) at Yahoo Movies. (also in HD) and in the UK version is at Empire Online (not HD). The trailer will be made available on a wide basis on Tuesday.
Embedded version
UPDATE 3: Teaser Screenshots of the Enterprise
UPDATE 4: TrekCore has added a full gallery of shots from the trailer
Full TrekMovie.com Coverage of the Star Trek Trailer:
Fan-made art inspired Trek teaser
TrekMovie.com Roberto Orci Q&A On Teaser
Review - Star Trek Teaser Trailer [w/TRAILER VIDEO]
First Official Image of the USS Entperprise
Review - “Cloverfield”
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This looks to be a great movie!!
Hmmm…..so this is what all the fuss is about.
I suggest people see it in the theatre, that’s the BEST way to see it!
I think im driving my GF nuts by watching the teaser multiple times lol! But im trying to convince her to see this movie when it comes out. Got her to see Transformers and she loved it! Can’t wait to see the actual trailer later this year!
Now the webcam images will keep everyone talking about canon. It’s just a movie, but I love star trek as much as the rest (I even have the first edition of the Spock Must Die novel, as well as a 1968 Enterprise with the lights).
Wow! The viral game now begins!! I know I’m excited now!
thanks!
Wow! I think the only way I’m seeing this movie on Christmas Day is to tell my wife I want it as a present…
f’n awesome!
Cool Beans! That’s awesomeness squared!
An its on at treknews.de in 1080p, 720p and 480p for those like me who have problems with the official website (seems overloaded already :( )
http://www.treknews.de/treknews/newspro-treknews/static/12009404182315.php
Enjoy :)
WHAT THE HELL AM I LOOKING AT FOR THE VIRAL SITE!?!?! I think they have better cameras than this for the 23rd Century.
Looks like the cameras have adjustment buttons and sliders….
i personally think it looks awesome
So what’s the numerical combinations for the three cameras?
ah there is some kinda puzzle to the viral site….lol I’ll wait for you guys to figure it out then tell me how to do it
Looks like the fins or “wings” are on the back of the nacelles
certainly a vry diffferent look
I have three webcams online.
#5 - A 1968 Enterprise with the lights? Where can I see that?
You have to tune in the signal for the 1st 3 cams………..trying to figure out #4 now!!!!!!!
Wow! I liked it when I saw the videoed-off the-cinema-screen version.
The full quality version is just wonderful. I t manages to show the classic ship, but the feel of the trailer is unlike anything seen in Trek before.
That’s the best thing about it: a whole new approach to our favourite series!!!
i have 3 webcams…you have adjust them to get close to 100 percent on their scale so you can see what they are
cams
123
967
289
Really get a lot of good looks at hd, if you stop it you can clearly see the detail under the saucer and an aft forward shot of the nacelles. They absolutely have a very different looking enterprise but have kept 80% of the original look. I think it’s a fair re-imagining portrayal. The fins could be a major issue with fans though. I’m not a big fan of fins on cars or space ships
Yea agreed, for 23 century optics…these stink.
564, 125, and 955 gets the three webcams in focus, but doesn’t activate the fourth one.
If you tweak the sliders on the base of the webcam windows, it brings the video ‘image’ into focus. 3 webcams seem to be working now. I love viral PR and whatever project pie JJ has his finger in, usually has the best, smartest & kick ass viral going!
2 camera = 111
3 camera = 940
4 camera = 290
Y#15 -
You slide the bar left and right until you get 100%. That way the picture is no longer distorted.
Love the virtual webcams! Very cool idea.
Thanks JJ!
there is a slider under each camera, if you move it around you can clear up the images. it is a clever idea, but i kind of agree with #12…300 years in the future and we still have to tune TV frequency?
damn I’m slow :)
my cams ‘tuned the best as follows’
1- 547
3-936
4-281
Oowww web 3 just came online, looks like if you refresh the cam online changes…
Huh… looks like different webcams load every time you load the page.
EPIC!
I’m glad to see the ship looking so real and ginormous.
It’s good to see the movie PROBABLY won’t be a mess of CGI.
I like the look of this so far.
#4 just came online for me
Checked out the viral site. It now has three cameras online. The adjustment settings I put are as follows.
Camera 1. 564
Camera 2. 125
Camera 4. 289
Its also on TZN: http://www.trekzone.de/sys/frontend/index.php?id=2061
reload the cam page - different each time
Also, it looks like it’s different for every computer.
i had the 4th webcam for a quick second…i think it showed a corridor!
this is what I got:
cam 1: 567
cam 2: 123
cam 4: 289
You do have to “tune” it like a radio….but as long as you’re within about 5 points of these values you can get a clear picture
Looks like there is some variation in the numbers. My camera two works better at 140..
#42 - I saw that also!
Huh. Jeyl and I actually have the same settings. In my case:
Camera 1 - 564
Camera 2 - 125
Camera 3 - 955
Camera 4 - 289
holy crap!!! the third cam just flickered online for a second, accompanied by a sound effect, and I got a shot of a dark-looking corridor!
#19, it was the orginial model kit that was put out when the show was in production. it used flashlight lights for the bridge and bottom deck and the nacells and the batteries are in ‘engineering’. you turned the deflector right or left to turn the lights on. I was 8 when I got it. Lots of wiring went into it, but it was a cool model.
Rick
There’s always one camera that is offline… Am I giving up too fast or is it just it?
1 = man welding from above, he has a box behind him and the light flashes yellow occassionally… code: 555
2= Random shower of sparks from top right (currently offline on this refresh) OOWWW it just flashed with view of a complete construction looking VERY much like the original engineering view with the ‘A’ shaped framing pattern….Where’s Scotty?
3 = looks like a modified version of cam 4, lots of sparks…possibly in a corridor. code: 948
4 = medium close up of a guy welding, looks like a different view from the scene in cam 4 code: 293
The interesting thing is that if you wait long enough you will se SOMETHING on that 4th Camera which doesn’t “work” ;-)
I’m just wondering??? Why do they have John Cho, Ben Cross, Bruce Greenwood, and Simon Pegg listed ahead of Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto??? Then Winoda Ryder, Zoe Zaldana, Karl Urban, Anton Yelchin and then it says, with Eric Bana and Lenoard Nimoy. I’m curious who is actually starring in this flick???
as you “reload” the page a different camera goes online and offline!!!
woo hoo
funny on JJ
I Think Camera 2 is something big it’s still off line
Camera 2 - 123 (98.8%) - What looks like a welding flame
Camera 3 - 955 (100%) - Some framework and a welding flame
Camera 4 - 289 (100%) - Man with goggles with framework in the background.
Anyone get anything different?
#52 the credits are in alphabetical order except for Eric Bana and Lenoard Nimoy who get the honorific ‘and’ & ‘with’ credits.
#52:
It looks like the cast is listed in alphabetical order.
I think the nacelle design is kind of retro “Seaview” — I like it. I think that will help keep a kind of 60s sensability to it.
Gods…. I’m gonna be hanging around this website all year now….
The teaser trailer is even better. I am really getting excited now. The TOS theme music was even better when they tilted up showing the front of the 1701. All this whyning about it being built on the ground is pointless. It looks good even being built on the ground.
If you reload the site, you’ll get the off-line cam to come on and another cam will go off-line.
if you watch the nacell’s during the track right in the trailer, it looks like they have fan or jet engine type structure in them which is slowly spinning….pretty retro but kinda cool too!
Shall we all sign up for shifts to watch the webcams? Maybe I should add a second monitor… LOL
WOW! I did not realize that was the top of the nacelle, until now!
I can understand the low resolution when I remember that it doesn’t matter that these are 23rd century cameras… what matters is that I’m are watching on a very early 21st Century monitors!… with early 21st century bandwidths.
(And don’t forget, broadcasting across time will probably affect resolution too.)
;)
that’s the corridor:
http://www.trekzone.de/mediapool/upload/teaser-corridor.jpg
#11 - Thanks, man!
However, how come that 1080p is only 42.44 MB while 720p is 50.26 MB?
If you correctly set all three cameras to 100%, you’ll get a little sneak peek in the fourth frame. I saw the corridors for a split second
Just outakes/reverse angles on the trailer live action as far as I can see
neat looking corridor.
Feels like a real movie… not seen or felt since ST:TMP and no doubt much better. I think we’re in for a treat.
Looks great in 1080p!
How in the hell can we wait 11 more months
I think we are assured a sequel at minimum
I wonder if Nimoy will do the sequel???
Notice them using startrek.com in the credits, and yet startrek.com is currently defunct with very little in the way of updates? Could this mean a new web team is going to be taking over shortly?
It’s marvellous! All these details. I always thought TMP and ENT had a very detailed rendering of the ships. But compared to this, none of the existing material can stand the test of time.
Heck…Not even the Star Wars PT comes anywhere close to this quality-wise! If they keep up these superb production values throughout the entire movie it is going to be groundbreaking, historic endeavour! I’ve never seen anything like it in hundreds of movies and thousands of TV episodes from all over the cosmos…
@67: 1080p is nearly 90MB. go here for correct versions: http://www.trekzone.de/sys/frontend/index.php?id=2061
Thanks for the heads-up, Anthony — just got to show the teaser to my wife, who wasn’t with us at the movies on Friday. The viral site is humming in the background as I type this . . . it makes for nice “white noise” to work with. :-)
This is exciting stuff, to see Trek get some real love by Paramount. I started my “evangelism” this weekend by posting some thoughts on my photography blog, if anyone is interested:
http://outsideisamericablog.blogspot.com/
#65 - Good thought. Maybe we’re watching the construction of the ship through the eyes of spy cameras of the movie’s antagonists? Maybe time traveling antagonists?
God it’s gonna be a long year…
#17, aren’t those just the cooling vents for the nacelles? Perhaps a little bit ’stylized’ from the TOS Enterprise.
arrrr… looks like one of the blokes is using duct tape… stay away from that section at high warp…
…seems like a bit much for a simple trailer…
New polish to a rather old apple.
Lets all hope that this was just
but the bottom side of the fruit basket.
#80 - I’d love to see a roll of duct tape in Scotty’s toolbox. Maybe that’s how he got the reputation of being a miracle worker!
OMG…I almost hit the ceiling while I was watching the trailer…
Totally blew me out of my seat. Fantastic!
what is that a picture of in time frame 25-30 during the trailer?
Is that the engineering hull where the pylons for the nacelles connect?
It’s gorgeous (but yah… those nacelles…). Anyway, this is the most impressive look at the USS Enterprise since Star Trek The Motion Picture. It will definitely bring back the Star Trek franchise into the mainstream media. That was about time !!! :-)
One webcam clearly shows Cawley - he’s one of the welders!
Just saw that corridor, the camera flickered on with a sound effect. :)
wonderful stuff…. got a real quality buzz about it…
Hmmm…don’t know what to say.
I’m a big fan of Star Trek, and I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but the trailer certainly doesn’t make me giddy as a school girl. I dinna know lads, maybe because I’m more of a story guy, I guess.
Technically, cool shots and all, but I gotta say I’m no more excited to see the movie than I was before…maybe even less so.
Not sure, maybe it hasn’t sunk in yet. Or maybe I’m too old to get excited about it…?
You guys are dreaming. Doesn’t show squat.
You know, look forward to the movie if you must, but how about looking at this trailer realistically? It in no way shows that this will be a good or bad movie or really anything about it at all other than a couple short dark clips of the ship. Yes, be excited, but anybody who is excited about it over this is hallucinating.
Those web cam things are an annoyance at best. And this whole “viral” idea???? Makes me long for the days of 3-month-delayed news in Starlog.
- COOL THING…!!! SOUNDS LIKE AN ARMY TANK AROUND BY HERE..!
-IMAGINATION…THE FINAL FRONTER….DO HUMANS HAVE DREAMS..? IF YOU ARE A HUMAN WITH DREAMS JUST LISTEN TO JEAN MICHEL JARRE..OR TIESTO..SPACE IS ‘THE FRONTIER’
Here’s a savelink for the 1080p from the official site
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/startrek/ST_TRL1_1080p.mov
(43 MB)
Hey guys, this is the best shot of the corridor I could get: http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/star_trek_teaser_trailer_and_viral_site_online
I am sharing your love in the excitement for this film but the trailer was just sort of boring to me. :(
#90 - I agree that the trailer doesn’t give much insight. Even the best looking trailers can turn out to be real stinkers. But I enjoy a long slow tease. Makes life interesting…
Awsome. I still like the teaser. Could someone put Jerry Goldsmith’s “The Enterprise” music from TMP over it?
#94 - Good job bb!
I know what you mean about the trailer but we’re still eleven months off. Probably notthing is set in stone and they don’t want to commit to much just yet. I think this is a holding action to keep the fans at bay and start to raise awareness in the rest of the community.
Hey,
It’s a trailer, probably not even a part of the final film. That’s ok.
The HD trailer is so exciting!! My enthusiasm level for this film is dangerously high. My mind is spinning with ways I can make this movie the first thing that I do on christmas day. If it opens a few days earlier, so much the better.
IDIC
Vince
#90 - Thanks for the buzzkill, Stanky. You must be a real joy at parties.
Now, folks, which part of the ship could THIS be?
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6946/ent1bxv5.jpg
What is that clear bubble on what looks like the engineering hull in the trailer? Down above what looks to be the hanger bay? Could that be an area for astronomical observations? Thoughts?
#100
-my very wild guess is that it is the secondary hull, looking aft? before the pylons to the nacelles are connected
re:99
Party on, Garth!
100…top of the nacelle i think looking forward
I was thinking so (i think this is the sequence #84 is talking about) and if you ask me these “wing pylons” look VERY Phase-2-like…
Compare here: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359-other.htm
104, thats another possibility esp given the bulge in the background.. these things must be huge, and have rather large wings too.
# 102
Nah, thats the top of a nacelle. You know with the fins and all?
But that dome in the middle? Don’t know, maybe the casing of the bussard collector and you can flip that down?
100 “Now, folks, which part of the ship could THIS be?”
Top of a nacelle looking aft. The two “wings” are the coolers.
# 108
you’re right! looking aft! Qua’pla!
So whats that “dome”-thingy then???
#105 - You’re on a nacelle toward the front looing aft. Those “wings” are the “things” that stick out at 45 degree angles at the rear of the nacelle.
Sombody help me here. I actually have no idea what they are called…
So it begins…..
ARG site, Check…..
Official site, Check….
Teaser, Big check…
- W -
* JJ you nut you, we love you *
These should be all shots of the Enterprise from the HD Trailer:
#1 http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6946/ent1bxv5.jpg
#2 http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/740/ent2hf4.jpg
#3 http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4329/ent3jy5.jpg
#4 http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/303/ent4lt1.jpg
#5 http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6699/ent5ms2.jpg
#6 http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/429/ent6rs2.jpg
#7 http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6857/ent7cu3.jpg
I still think that you do hear Patrick Stewart or someone close saying “space” at 0:43.
Actually, I think your aft looking fore.
maybe we’re looking to the front and the cap is the little foreskin of the bussard collector (gabe koerner)
112..you’re right….
#112, it’s not Patrick Stewart, it’s the countdown voice-over saying “six.” I agree that it does sound like Stewart, though.
112 - Nimoy.
Anthony, I need to change my vote for the trailer. If I’d seen this version of the trailer, I would have voted “I’ve already bought my tickets” or whatever it was that you had at the top!!!
I think the exterior looks awesome… but this corridor looks terrible. :(
http://www.trekzone.de/mediapool/upload/teaser-corridor.jpg
Here’s hoping that its really the interior to something other than the enterprise. (like a garbage disposal facility?)
*squee* Beautiful!! Gave me goosebumps… I’m sooooo psyched about this movie, how can I wait till Christmas?!!!
I didn’t like the low res version you had on this site a few days ago, it looked too dark and I didn’t like it for that reason!!!
#105 - Believe it or not I’ve got my model TOS Enterprise in my hand. I’ve positioned my eye over the bussard collector and I am looking down the length of the nacelle. It looks a lot like that shot.
And my wife is looking at me like I’ve lost my mind.
She might be right
You guys are good, answering #100’s question. In the theater I thought that was the top of the mid-section, but now I see it’s a nacelle. The “wings” work for me, btw.
Watching the trailer now, I see how many little things I missed on the big screen … guess I was in a state of Trek-bliss overload. :-)
that looks like the back of the nacel
Wasn’t there a bubble like pc on the aft section of Enterprise during TOS
@112: If you listen carefully, you can hear a countdown from six, and after zero, you can hear “ignition” just as the star trek theme starts
#120
I’m sure that they’ll have a showing before Christmas..
….at 11:59 PM
LOL
I love the counter-rotating blades in each nacelle. Although, not enough to want to see them when she’s underway!
*124 - it is - and before people start stressing about fins - the original had fins of a sort - and the refit model and the 1701-A - had basically a large sweeping fin at the rear - so, fins all round -
Very. Cool. Site.
I think this teaser makes very clear that the Enterprise will be ASSEMBLED in SPACE! In one shot (00:00:42) we can see the underside of the saucer section. Next to it is another part of the ship under construction, which is clearly NOT connected to the saucer. This implies they are constructing several seperate parts which will be assembled later on (in space?).
and if you listen extra carefully, you can hear “I buried Paul”…
or is it “cranberry sauce”…
I cant look away from the cameras this is so awesome
Great Teaser!
Thanks for the the “webcams” so far. Looks excellent so far, thanks to you JJ and your team!
Hope to see some more viral sites and riddles!
now, seeing this movie on Dec. 25 would be a GREAT b-day gift ! But we’ll probably see it in January/Febuary 2009 here in Iceland :(
119 - I’m sure that’s a shot of the corridor while under construction / before lighting is installed. I guarantee it’s not finished.
I dont like this trailer at all.. sorry…
Sweaty welders with tools that look like something my grandpa would use in the garage to fix is old Chevy?
I say why dont the chisel the thing with STONE TOOLS while they are at it.
The whole thing is DARK, and has nothing to do with the style of the bright colorful glorious view of the future…
These could be SLAVES… not to mention all the technological problems with just welding together a STARSHIP like that… lol
what happened to “the vision of the future???”
This reminds me more of the construction of the titanic back in 1912 using underpaid sweaty labour.
That image #100 mentioned is most defitely the top side of nacelle. However I’m taken rather aback to see there is no ribbing on those coolers. I like the design of those cooler fins, but I think there should be ribs on them.
Well nevermind, perhaps they are on the underside. :)
fascinating!
#135 - it all depends on your local movie distributor. Do a little lobbying, perhaps you could get the same release date as Britain. You are the customers, after all, and I’d imagine that every paying customer is welcome when you have a market as small as Iceland.
I already started lobbying in my country, too. I’m not willing to wait until February! :-)
Am I missing something? All of these camera angles show nothing to me. I don’t see half of the things people are griping about. Or maybe I’m not doing it right.
ok what are we suposed to be doing with these cameras
It looks like this Enterprise may owe a lot of it’s design to Star Trek: TMP.
Not sure about that Corridor yet. Reminds me of the new Battlestar Galactica corridors.
However, if the Enterprise is still under construction, it may be lit very differently in the final movie.
This will be VERY interesting to see.
#137…. relax… all we are seeing is the night shift. Makes it more dramaic for the trailer.
I’m sure most of the movie will be filmed in the light.
#142 - Slide the slider and fiddle with the digits until you get 100% in each. It shows images and ocasionally the one camera with no feed shows a corridor. I hope that’s not completed. I’d like to see this thing lit a little better than the corridors of the Battlestar Galactica…
100
top of an engine looking aft.
#143 - Glad I’m not the only one who thought of Galactica when I saw the corridor.
In a way I’m glad to see it have a little more resemblence to TMP Enterprise. Though I like the design of TOS and TMP versions I’ve never been able to accept that one is a refit of the other. Doesn’t ruin my enjoyment of either but it was too much of a jump…
Is it me or is there a separate UK version (here http://www.empireonline.com/video/startrekxi/) that says “Boxing Day 2008″?
I can’t wait a whole extra DAY!!!! *cries*
The construction of the Enterprise reminded me of something I read once.
From Memory Alpha’s article on Johnathan Archer:
“For the biographical display seen in “In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II”, writer Mike Sussman wrote a final section of text that didn’t end up being visible on screen, stating that Archer “…died at his home in upstate New York in the year 2245, exactly one day after attending the christening ceremony of the first Federation starship Enterprise, NCC-1701″. Note that Sussman himself has said this information might not be canon. ”
Orci has mentioned Star Trek Enterprise in the past, so I wonder if there’s going to be a mention of that graphic about Archer in the movie. Probably not but it would be cool to see that level of detail in the movie!
You guys are right on the bit on it being six… I was just taken aback since it kind of sounded like Stewart…
108 is right
they used to look like handles are noe inclosed giving it a “wing” like appearance.
120. Blehhh - January 21, 2008
The ship is under construction dude, there’s no full lighting. Did you happen to notice the shape of those corridors. :)
A question for Anthony, and perhaps other folks that have tried the webmaster program…
I have a foreign Trek site, it’s quite big, but not in english. My application has been rejected, does anyone know why? I’ve filled out my application with correct info, read the qualifications… Nothing :(
Has anyone tried this?
110
108 said “coolers”
just b4 i read that i was thinking “inter-cooler” or something like that. but i dont know were my ref material is.
Great website. Not so sure of their Enterprise. Why doesn’t it look like the original 1701??? Is this an alternate universe version or something?
#154 - Intercoolers! That may be right.
Anyways, could they be Cawley’s “wings?”
The shot of the underside of the primary hull just gives the whole ship a sense of scale… I do like that. All much improved over the blurovision one before.
I don’t like the TMP sensor array though for some reason. It’s a straight lift off that ship and jars the whole thing for me… ah well, not to worry. :-)
I do think Stanky is in good form tonight though :)
Anyone know if this’ll be on the Apple movie trailers site? Otherwise I’ll have to plug the laptop into the TV for the full effect… (if I’m allowed to….)
It was just that - a teaser. Not very useful for me, since I want real details 8P
@148 - Boxing Day it is…
I have a friend in LA, I might have to go and visit him for Christmas… New York will get it first, right?
(Actually, when did you last hear of a film NOT have ’special previews’… it might be before then if we’re lucky…?)
Makes me kind of sad to see this. While the new trailer is very cool and the viral site is great for generating interest, I am somehow sad about it.
What I’m sad about is that while it’s great to have new Star Trek coming, I feel like “my” Star Trek is on it’s way out. My Star Trek is TOS. This will not be your Daddy’s Star Trek.
Nimoy is involved yes, and he approves. That’s great. But somehow, it feels like my time is over. This time it really feels like it’s over. But I’ll be in line on opening day!
Shot 1 - show of the starboard nacelle dorsal housing, forward facing from a point well aft
Shot 2 - starboard edge of saucer showing edge detail and transporter emitter
Shot 3 - Construction on nacelle support pylon with port saucer ventral in background
Shot 3 - Pan up revealing neck, nacelle struts on either side of neck from engineering hull, ventral saucer dome with refit-style lights surrounding sensor dome (2 lights instead of movie-era 1), saucer style mix between TOS and refit, with TOS secondary dome under refit bridge dome. Microgramma hull lettering, note no refit phaser emitters
Hey everyone,
I put it on YouTube if you want to add it to Facebook or anything like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukfAeBGvQk
136
maybe its the romulan corridor
Just cause we saw a split-second shot of a darkened and unfinished corridor doesn’t mean they are all like that or like that all the time.
Maybe we just saw a narrow secondary access corridor, nothing like the main decks.
Amazing how little things like that are pre-judged.
BTW, Trek sites webmasters should press the “webmaster program” on the official site… Could prove valuable.
#160 - It’s going to be different that’s for certain but I came to grips with that fact back in 1979 when TMP hit the screen. I will survive as long as they pay TOS the proper respect it is due…
#161 - You might be backwards on the look in SHOT 1, but I don’t want to get into a “built on the ground” versus “built in space” argument over it… Time will tell for certain.
I just don’t understand one thing: why do they build the ship by night?
Wouldn’t be easier working at the light of the day? :D
@160 - I know what you mean, but it will still be there. I ordered my TOS HD disks yesterday, and am all excited about it again… :-)
RE: 132, thanks for the laugh, you made my day
#164 - Yeah it could be either an unfinished corridor, or a secondary passageway, or “dark alternative Enterprise”, or whatever. Not going to freak out over it but I’m hoping for a bit better there.
when i am the admin of a trek forum on a phpBB basis… but the website itself is hosted by someone else - does that make me a webmaster???
Nacelle looking aft, showing new “winged” intercoolers. I’d be willing to bet that a version of this shipyard scene will be in the movie. maybe a young Kirk visits the construction site?
Ok. It all makes sense now. I slowed done the teaser. The video was sharp. Cool stuff. The construction site is cool for about 2 minutes. I believe if we hype the kids for this, it would work.
I am glad to see them bring a hype to the movie.
#168 - They’re building the ship inside a hanger. Granted, a very large hanger. But it isn’t being built in space, for the welders arent wearing space suits. And as we all know, no helmet in space = death.
Just keep in mind folks, this trailer is a metaphor for the movie. The movie itself is not about the construction of the ship.
Are those red doors that can be seen through the open view of the Bridge area?
re: posts 167 and 169- Yes, I agree, we’ll always have TOS on HD-DVD and the films too.
As John Lennon said after the Beatles broke up, “The albums are there, you can listen to them anytime.”
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right. now the ship dose not look like our TOS ent. if you dont know jack about star trek then you think something is coming. but if your a trek fan then what “I” see is a federation style starship with the ent name on. but i dont see my TOS ent.
now that said
how would you feal if it was the TOS ent just unpainted and still adding hull plateing.
Oh… cool! There is an option for iPhones. NOW THAT”S WHAT I”M TALKING ABOUT! Star Trek rocks!
#175 - That’s a good point. The Big-E might either be assembled off-screen or already in existence during the time of the movie..
Complete transcript of trailer:
“30 seconds and counting… 25 seconds…”
“The eyes of the world now look into space.”
“Godspeed, John Glenn.”
“The Eagle has landed.”
“It’s one small step for man… one giant leap for mankind.”
“Six…five…four…three…two…one…ignition”
“Four” onward is almost drowned out by Nimoy saying “Space the final frontier.”
So, no, there’s no Patrick Stewart saying “space”… it’s the countdown guy saying “six.”
http://pics.livejournal.com/fortysevenbteg/pic/000kza2w
Enjoy. :D
#178 - My friend it’s never going to be TOS Enterprise. Even with a coat of paint she’s gonna look different in a few ways at least. No sense in floating false hopes.
The question is are you gonna be able to enjoy it or is it a deal killer right from the start. Only you can answer that one…
I would think that the name of the ship would be painted last… lol
why are these sweaty unshaved stinky slave-workers doing this at night?
I think that these are an alien race of very low technology, with welding irons, trying to back engineer the enterprise and make something that looks like the real enterprise…. HA!
Gene, doing cartwheels in your grave?.. yes I know.
@181: Yeah, that’s what I said, and I got ridiculed
About that corridor: they are filming the movie now, and they are filming scenes on board the Enterprise, so that’s probably a corridor from the Enterprise. I doubt it will be that dark in the movie though
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it might be.
ive zoomed way in. and i see the orang/red truss system with a lattice sub-frame. and it looks like a pink/red something on the back wall. but its out ofplace for a centerline door and way out of place for an offset to port side door. so if its a door, its on the sb side (wrong) or its the port door of a two door tmp style.
oh and i dont think some have zoomed in and thought the third truss on the right was a orang planet on a bridge screen.
and since this is san francisco (up or down) how about that color be intl orange the same as the golden gate bridge.
Love the webcams. It feels as if I had to play with the controls to synthonyze with the future. XDDD
For those of you commenting on the non-TOS aspects of the ship, Orci made comments in another thread that there is a specific, plot-related reason the ship is not an exact TOS clone. Quite intriguing.
#182 - That looks a little better.
The shape of the corridor reminds me of some doors in TOS when they were going for a more alien look. Not the rectangular doors of the Enterprise but more pear shaped. I’m sure a geometry expert could give the proper name for the shape…
What the hell has happened to the official Star Trek site? You can tell the guys with talent have sadly gone. Whoever is left in charge creating those homepage graphics should be stunned. Terrible.
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Voltaire….
Do you have a link? I would love to read that!
184 I would think that the name of the ship would be painted last… lol
well maybe “painted” maybe its some future type of application that must be apllied to the plates b4 assembly, during the plates manufacture process.
184 I think that these are an alien race of very low technology, with welding irons, trying to back engineer the enterprise and make something that looks like the real enterprise…. HA!
can always re-watch in the perkining :D
Re #58 Konar
I thought of the Seaview too. Man, are we old.
@ 199 Catlas
Sure, here it is, copied over from the Orci thread.
A poster said this in post 203 (this is just the first sentence):
“Why did you guys decide to change the design of the Enterprise so radically from a design which had become such a well-known cultural icon?”
Orci replied by saying this (post 282, I think):
“Can’t comment too much because it involves a story point to a degree, but I can say that one of our guiding principles in our approach to many things in this movie is to make them feel REAL as can be. Willing to discuss this more as we get closer.”
#168
According to the beancounters at Starfleet HQ, they’re already six weeks behind production, so round-the-clock shifts and overtime for all!
:-)
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#186 - I zoomed way in also and I think I see Kirk making out with a girlfriend in the back seat!
Oops, that should be 191 Catlas.
Boy, that copied version on Youtube just didn’t give justice to the real deal. That trailer was really good and it makes me excited for a what I’m expecting will be a great movie.
#175 - Why not a hanger IN SPACE?
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in tom paris’ car ? :D
Two hundred and FIRST!!!
#170
I’d think the fact that this movie is set waaay before the 5-year mission. would preclude us seeing the TOS Enterprise. Or maybe we’ll see it at the end of this movie. I dunno!
Besides, she’s still *under construction* in both the figurative and literal senses.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Is it me..or does the guy at the start of the trailer look like Ray Liotta?!
#200 - Nice tie in there. Hopefully Orci is reading this thread…
This is pretty cool–I can see so much more detail in the HD version of the trailer. I like the NCC 170 site–still, the welding guys..hmm..when finished, do they jump in their Ford or Chevy pick-ups and head to the local pub? It just seems a bit to retro to have these guys spot welding.
Regardless, I am really looking forward to the finished project.
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after looking at that pic and going back to the teaser pic.
i think it is the ent corridor.
zoom in on the open sec above the ‘ENT..’ and i see those black walls and white sec lines devideing the corridor.
Guys, this ship is HUGE, apparently much larger than the 947 feet generally accepted as thew length of the TOS Enterprise. Look at the welders on the front of the primary hull - they are much smaller than they should be, unless the ship is being constructed by midgets. And the workers on the back of the nacelle, that nacelle is much larger than the TOS version.
1.Comments on hull lettering; hull lettering a different type of metal than the rest of the hull, no need to “paint”, she’s named as she’s built
2. Good shots of trailer posted - anyone notice NCC-1701 lettering absent from the front of the saucer ventral? Where could it be? :) (think TOS)
3. Google “TOS Enterprise” and take a look at the rear top of the nacelles… there’s the “wings”.
4. Red square visible on bridge; too wide and short for doors, how about large screen above science station? :)
5. Corridor shot from ncc-1701.com; night shift lighting, color removed from shot (remember - TMP had individual colors for decks)
6. Built on Earth / orbital dry dock: no matter where she’s built, makes sense to pressurize the work area instead of manage hundreds of EVA suits, no? And why can’t she be built on Earth… navy ships aren’t built in the water, are they?
To all of you that have cried foul and mentioned things like, “why are there sweaty welders” or “in the future it would all be done with robots,” etc, etc. One must remember that way back in the beginning Mr. Roddenberry had a concept. It essentially was that he was going to place 20th century people and ideals in the 24th century. Do you actually think Scotty would have such a thick accent some 200 years from now? Or that one would flip toggle switches to active machines. I suspect we would have an impossible time trying to relate and understand a true portrayal of the 24th century. Christ, we would all be like that primitive man in the scene from the film “Quest for Fire” where another tribe member creates fire as he looks on. Scratching our heads trying, but failing, to comprehend the magic before us.
#207 - It’s been a while since I read this but wasn’t the TOS Enterprise supposed to be on the scale of a large modern day aircraft carrier? You like like a midget compared to one of those also…
205
Chevy’s w/ like a rock playing. oh and in slow mo.
#206 - Agreed. It’s a passageway in the ENT, but is it completed? Maybe, but I doubt it…
@199
It was established by Gene Roddenberry himself that the Enterprise was built on Earth on the surface. This is also backed up by the fact that major sections of ships are shown on the surface of Mars in the Utopia Planitia shipyards in episodes of The Next Generation. It’s probably actually easier to build sections on the ground if you’re not hindered by bulky spacesuits and then put the major sections together in space.
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I’m uploading it to YouTube now. I’ll post another comment when it’s up.
Wow blown away!!!!
The new E in glorious HD. Can’t wait to blow this up on my 65″ DLP later!!!
A couple more observations.
1.The new E is definately more TMP than original E. From what we can see (more clearly now in HD) It looks like a much larger movie E with more TV E looking warp engines.
2. The ship looks to be around 800 meters in length (I am working on a drawing size comparison which I hope to have up by tomorrow)
3. The new saucer edge/rim is 4 decks high where the movie and TV E were both 2 decks high
Awesome stuff
I smell the daily “built in space” versus “built on the ground” war starting up… (Puts on flame resistant jacket and pants)…
210
now this is going to bring up the ol how big is it arguement, 19,21,23,24 decks. how tall is the leading edge of the saucer, is that decks 6 &7 or does the under saucer curve in the hull under cut the deck. then every one brings out there fav or held dear what they believe cross section to prove their point.
oh and yes 947′ is one of many LOA that can be found out there for TOS ent.
#217 - Never really worried about the size. On one level I understand that in the 60’s they were only concerned about keeping the production moving and some fudging happened that still causes problems today for some people.
I just can’t get into the weeds that deep. Keep it reasonable, don’t break continuity in a way that’s gonna make me notice, and give me a compelling story.
Oh, and PLEASE don’t rely on time travel all the time… ENOUGH ALREADY… Sheesh…
Hi all,
Downloaded the trailer in the highest possible resolution. Must say that it is probably the best Star Trek trailer since ST-TMP and that is saying something. It really looks like Paramount are giving this Star Trek movie every possible chance to be a success. All we have to do is stop bitching and go see it seventeen times… per person…
But, and you just knew there would be a ‘but’ didn’t you? The thing that makes me feel a bit sad is the fact that there will not be a real Enterprise in this new movie. Of course what I mean is, there will not have been a team of skilled model makers, painters, electricians, electronic experts and so on to actually make a real ship for us to marvel at.
Now before anybody jumps on me for this comment, please bear in mind that;
1) This is my opinion and I am entitled to it.
and
2) I am aware of the skills which go into building a CGI model and getting it to look real and I am not detracting from these talented people in any way.
Although I am looking forward to this film with nearly as much anticipation as when I first heard about ST-TMP, the lack of a physical model does take the edge off of it, for me anyway.
Unless I am completely wrong and a real model will be used. Anyone know either way for sure?
It is also my hope that the use of green/blue screen will be kept to minimum for the live action shots.
Oh yeah, don’t those bubbles on the top of the saucer section near the front look like TMP style phaser emitters? Apologies if that has already been asked and answered.
As for the fins/wings they are definitely related to what the original TV Enterprise had, so in that shot from the trailer we are on top of the nacelle, looking aft. Not sure of what to make of that lump right at the back though. Perhaps it is something akin to the cover the Enterprise Space Shuttle used to have over its engines when it was on the back of the 747 being flown around.
Isn’t it great to be able to discuss this stuff like this? :) Still miss Starlog though :(
Question for Stanky;
I have read many of your comments and have laughed, agreed and disagreed with them, obviously and not necessarily all at the same time! What I’d like to know is, given that a new movie is going to be made anyhow, what would actually meet with your approval and if it was your call, how would you re-invigorate the Star Trek franchise? because God knows it needs it.
Cheers and good night from this tired UK Star Trek fan :)
So are we finally going to find out if NCC stands for NAVAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT number? :)
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2. The ship looks to be around 800 meters in length (I am working on a drawing size comparison which I hope to have up by tomorrow)
800m?
id like to see that
Holy crap, there really is a corridor!
I *saw* it! It is REEEEEAL!!!
/end Benny Russell ref
#219 - Excellent post from start to end.
I also thought about the lack of a real model and it is a shame that she will only exist in her digital realm. Nothing for future generations to see in an exhibit in the future…
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#217 - Never really worried about the size. On one level I understand that in the 60’s they were only concerned about keeping the production moving and some fudging happened that still causes problems today for some people.
Millenium falcon???
And while we are on in, what does the “USS” really stand for?
re: 219
“All we have to do is stop bitching and go see it seventeen times… per person…”
Yes, let’s all do that, even if it stinks. We must support Star Trek even if it is bad. (Not saying it will be bad…but what IF?) :)
Love it love it love it ….. Big E in HD looks great!!!!
To me, Star Trek is a philosophy…..Star Trek is hope. Star Trek is a vehicle for political commentary that is sometimes controversial(i hope this movie does some of that). AND then…….Star Trek is really cool. The teaser indicates these guys have the same perception of Star Trek that makes it unique. Secondly, they have put Star Trek on a much grander scale ALREADY than its been on recently. This movie, just based on the teaser, doesnt seem like it will have the SUPER EPISODE feel that to me that all the TNG movies had(which is a tragedy by the way because they could have been great). These guys are taking chances with this and it might be absolutely wonderful. The only thing I fear is the chemistry between the cast. Star Trek is soooo character driven. The texture of the characters sometimes pulled off episodes even if the story was lacking and it will be interesting to see if their cast can re-capture some of that. God I hope Chris Pine can pull off the intelligence and intensity of Captain Kirk!
Lastly, the contsruction of the Enterprise lends itself to an awesome scene where I predict a child Kirk will take a tour around the ship like a remake of the shuttle scene in Star Trek I. At least that would be awesome.
Is it just me, or the “Webmaster programm” stuff is offline? What was that about?
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thats not what i was thinking.
i was thinking that ‘I dont have that much money’ :D
#223
Exactly how I feel. Having a model on display in the Smithsonian, is just not the same as having your polygons etc. backed up onto a dual layer DVDR. You guys in the States are so lucky to have all this neat stuff t go and see you know….
I wonder where the original TMP starship is these days? Anyone know that?
Question for Mr. Orci, did you ever consider using a physical model? And, what are your preferences on this particular matter?
re: 219
“Question for Stanky;
I have read many of your comments and have laughed, agreed and disagreed with them, obviously and not necessarily all at the same time! What I’d like to know is, given that a new movie is going to be made anyhow, what would actually meet with your approval and if it was your call, how would you re-invigorate the Star Trek franchise? because God knows it needs it.”
What I would like to see (and I know that anyone with any money or power to do anything about it will not be interested) would be along the lines of Exeter, with a virtually identical starship with a different crew. And this would be a TV series, rather than a movie. It would be consistent with the 60s Star Trek series and be set in that time period.
I would want it to have the retro look and make references to the (offscreen) Enterprise and its crew on occasion.
Would this reinvigorate the franchise? Probably not. But then, that’s not my job.
Does it really need invigorating? To me they are not invigorating, they are out-and-out changing for the tastes of the perceived modern audience in order to make money. That’s business and I understand it. But I don’t like the product. I’d rather see no Star Trek than fake Star Trek.
#226
Thanks for the comment, but I was hoping you might repond to the bit specifically for you at the end of my post.
WM program is still online, as far as I can tell. But it rejected me, but really don’t know why :-/
Has anyone else tried to apply?
#226: Of course we will not go seventeen times. Being a fan doesn’t mean we’re brainless… It’s like buying a Star Trek game. I got burned once and learned not to invest in newer titles unless they had positive reviews and I got a chance to try a demo.
If this comes out of the gate stinking like a bag of dung it’s gonna make me think twice…
re: 233
see 232
#226 in post #232
Of course I meant ‘respond’. Bloody laptop keyboards…. Grrrrrr! or lack of brain cells perhaps? Who knows for sure?
But seriously, I would be interested to see your thoughts on my question Stanky.
I AM PSYCHED! I CANT WAIT!!!!!
I havent been this psyched about a movie since Star Wars Episode II came out in 2002.
on a side note I DID like Episode II.
232
oh the ol if it were me.
i was thinking of a pre tos show.
its the ent with pike and crew.
#236
Oh bugger! Sorry, I’ll go and have a look now. :) I’m sure that was not here a minute ago…..
225. Blowback - January 21, 2008
And while we are on in, what does the “USS” really stand for?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Pike said he was from the United Space Ship Enterprise in The Cage.
#231
about the TMP ent. I believe its hanging on a wall at ILM, well the saucer section anyway.
I love it…..I love it……..I love it………
Those workers are still going…. Not even a lunch break….
Looks like a MAJOR TMP influence on this project…. the aztec tiling/general style of the saucer to the “secret image” that looks like a TMP Enterprise corridor.
Makes sense to have a hybrid look to the ship….makes the transition to the TMP refit make more visual sense.
#241 - That sounds right. Something I heard in the distant past. But since every second of film has been sliced, diced, and examined over the last 40 + years I was wondering if a new explanation was put forth…
#242 - Isn’t the TMP Entrprise part of the tour going on now?
I’m annoying everyone with my repetitive watching of the teaser and talking almost non-stop about it.
225
USS stands for United Space Ship ;)
^^^ It’s prbably going to take about a year to build it.
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visual sense?
what about chronological sense.
oh yes we’ve heard the back and forth style argument.
so how about this. you see the retro styling in the auto market?
maybe this jj trek is what it looked like back in its day and TMP is the retro version of that. now before some says yes.
what does that say about tos style?
Anyone want to bet if the Enterprise is considered a “Starship Class” or a “Constitution Class?” For everyone who has been using the plaque as proof what do you make of that reference?
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against picards reading it as a constitution class in the Naked Now, with a pic of TMP ent?
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250.
As much as I love the classic look, let’s face it: Putting the original version of the Enterprise on the big screen would be absurd. That look was wonderful for it’s day, but that day was 40 years ago. Folks either have to accept a more modern version or simply avoid the project altogether. Personally, I’m looking forward to it.
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production stand point? or story stand point?
why not just a movie ver of it like how the borg costumes changed.
wheres my post from…. oh here it is.
sorry but let me jump in for a sec.
sure it could be argued that trek is the human adventure/condition so on and so forth. and also that it is star trek and wouldnt be trek with out the ship. but the writer is not the art dept. if trek is about humanity and all that then let the writer do his/her job and convey what message they will. and let the art dept recreate our beautiful lady. why should some one else change her. campy or not, a science fiction space ship is a science fiction space ship, its always going to look funny to someone.
#232
Well I can see where you are coming from with this.
What I guess you are feeling is that this new incarnation is riding on the coat tails of an already well established item and there is not much in the way of originality or creativity involved with the new and therefore it is not worth bothering with. And obviously something which you feel strongly about.
The thing is, I am willing to give it a chance because I would like to see more adventures with these iconic characters and as long as the new actors can honour the original characters (not mimic the original actors performances) why is that so bad? Another way I am looking at this is thinking about all the different actors which have portrayed Shakespeare’s creations, do we refer to any of them as fake? I don’t believe that is so. If Gene Roddenberry’s creation has a fraction of the longevity of Shakespeare, is that not a great thing? We may even have the peculiarity of Star Trek catching up with itself in years to come, would that not be something grand to see?
Although my affection for the actors who have played these roles is vast, I am trying to be subjective enough to accept that, much like the Bond movies, it is possible to replace the main characters and still maintain the integrity and entertainment of the product overall.
I believe this new film has a chance of being something interesting and even meaningful for today’s audiences, and dare I say, us old timers too. If we can just get an intriguing and worthwhile storyline, then I will be there, not on Christmas Day, but soon after.
The one thing that really gives me hope is Leonard Nimoy coming out of retirement to play Spock again.
Many times in the past I have been impressed with his overall reverence toward the character of Spock and Star Trek in general. After all it is not as if he needs the money these days does he? And lets not forget he has actually been involved with Star Trek since day one, and no other cast member can say that. Also Mr. Nimoy passed on Generations, citing that there was nothing of value to his character in that movie.
So based on his involvement alone, I have hope. And in the end is that not what Star Trek is all about?
Stanky, I also hope that you will at the least see this movie one time. You might just be pleasantly surprised and even if you are not, there are always the TOS DVDs to enjoy.
Man, I am really going on far too much tonight. If anything I have said above makes any sense, great. If not, sorry about that. It made sense while I was writing it.
I too love when movies use physical models for starships (i.e. miniatures). And I’m an aspiring CG/VFX artist. Don’t get me wrong, I love CG too. But there’s just something about a miniature that is great. Especially when it’s done with lots of detail.
But at this point in time, computers have gotten so powerful, that you can put more detail on a CG model, with greater ease, than it is to put that detail on a physical model.
#255 - I agree with you but I would love to see a believable vision of TOS Enterprise with minimal updating. It’s clear this version of the Big-E will be significantly different but is it possible to take the classic design and update it just enough that it would stand up on the silver screen and modern audiences?
Anyone ever give it a try?
That is so cool…
This movie’s gonna rock!
256.
Point taken, but if that original look was so timeless, why didn’t Gene keep it intact in TMP?
Also, this film is not just being made for the fan base; its intent is to reach a larger audience. Putting the original design on the screen would get it laughed out of the theater. There HAD to be changes made.
Let’s give JJ and gang a chance before burying them.
#258
Sad to admit, but I agree with what you say.
I just don’t believe that there will be quite so much of the ‘goosebump’ factor for me when I see the big E this year. Of course I won’t be 16 years old either…… :)
#259
I’d be interested to see that too.
Dear Haters,
It seems some starships are still constructed on planets even in the 24th century.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Utopia_Planitia.jpg
Unless you want to write off TNG as non-canon too…
Z
In case anyone is remotely interested, I was 16 when ST-TMP came out and that is what I was referring to when talking about seeing the big E….
I expect this movie, because it was written by Orci and Kurtzman, will resonate their type of movie making style but at the same time will be faithful almost to the letter to Gene’s vision of Trek. In other words, like Transformers and M.I. III, there will be a lot of action and what not, but at the same time this will be accompanied by a great story that fits perfectly into the original “meaning” of Star Trek. I imagine this is why they chose to go with an original series story. So that they can tell Star Trek in a way that hasn’t been tackled in a while that looks new and exciting, allowing viewers of all kinds to look at it in a new way and see truly what Star Trek is suppose to mean.
I thoroughly look forward to this movie and know that whether it looks drastically different or not, it will be faithful to the essence of Star Trek.
#261 “There HAD to be changes made”
Totally agreed. The bridge of the Enterprise-D in Generations was different than the TV version of TNG. No strange explanation needed. No altered timeline. The designer simply told that the differences were to be intended retroactive, that is: the bridge of E-D had always been that way. It’s called suspension of disbelief, ’cause every movie production introduces artistic and visual enhancements. We have to live with it.
#264
I was -5 when TMP came out. :p
Love the shipyard site. And I was worried about how I would put off doing that problem set tonight…well, I will worry no more.
On the “it’s not being constructed in space” debate, the book “Flag Full of Stars” depicts the Enterprise saucer section being refit on the ground in San Francisco and then flown into space to attach to the primary hull. Sure, not technically canon, but maybe where the idea came from.
#267
Nice looking ship you have there. Any renderings of it in a completed state?
#248
USS at first was meant to be United Space Ship
but then they changed the meaning to
United Star Ship
The Enterprise is a Starship, capable of interstellar travel, not any ol spaceship….
261
a bit out of argment but pg 27 of st phase II
gene wanted it updated not redesigned.
im just looking for a movie version. more details, lighting, sense of scale.
#221
Before anyone hisses, let me speculate for just a moment… I’m only putting two data points together which probably weren’t meant to go together…
In that TNG novel, Dark Mirror (iirc), there was a reference to the Mirror Enterprise (D) being much larger — as a battleship — than the Enterprise (D) [our universe] was.
Roberto O has had to be coy “for plot reasons” about the reason that this Enterprise appears different from our TOS Enterprise…
Not that I’m saying that this is a “Mirror Universe” movie, but, could the result of the actions of our [known] Romulan character have affected development in the Federation (or Terra) to the point that “this” Enterprise is one of the consequences?
Not expecting this to be the case, but, a ‘thought experiment’ of sorts….
271
Picard himself said “you’re aboard a space ship” :P
Polite corrections of a misimpression, or, data that others might already be aware of that I’ve missed, would be welcome.
Why does the corridor look like a DOOM game or some shoot’em up video game?? Oh well, I will try to keep an open mind on this. Hopefully it will look better when lit.
263
parallels?
oh you talking about that alternate reality ep?
272.
I hear ya.
The basic design looks to be the same….it’s the details that people seem to have trouble with. Be interesting to see if the “turbines” on the nacelles will be covered like they were on TOS or left exposed.
232. Stanky.
Updating the look of the ship will make it a “fake Star Trek”? You seriously would prefer retro sets and model ships? That is NOSTALGIA, not good sense. Gene Roddenberry created the most forward-looking vision of the future that he could (in the 1960’s). He wasn’t into nostalgia or looking backwards.
I enjoy the Exeter and New Voyages fan films. They are fun. But would I want to see them on the big screen (or weekly on television)? No. Star Trek is about ideas and adventure, not a stagnant relic.
#259, #262 - “like classic ENT, just updated”? It has been done already. One talented guy called Vektor made this “updated for bigh screen” Enterprise (WIP):
http://www.vektorvisual.com/projects/TrekXIEnt/gallery/wip_006.jpg
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#278
They not only help propel a starship at FTL speeds, but they also slice, dice and prepare julienne fries…
But wait! There’s more!
#270
I have one completed render, but it’s hard to see…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/PixelMagic/enterprise_drydock_wip_01.jpg
Also, I have a render that shows all the detail I put into the “under construction” version that I used in my fan trailer…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/PixelMagic/enterprise_construct_wip_05.jpg
Disclaimer : This is NOT the official Enterprise from the movie. It is fan art.
For those guys worried about build quality, with these dodgy cowboy welders making the enterprise - its ok - it fits with CANNON - it explains why the ship needed a huge overhaul a decade down the line (the refit)- and also why they never used this design of ship after the kirk era - aka (you only see miranda and excelcior and oberth class ships really) it because it was so badly made - (for those who can’t tell - this is sarchasm)
Sci-Fi - clues in the title
i love how people are trying to justify a change in design with some bizzare plot explenation - they changed it because the original would have looked shit on screen - nuff said
#279 - it doesn’t need to be MODEL ships. Classic design can be made to look “real”, just like this new design could be made to look “false”. It’s just a matter of CGI artists and their prowess.
As for retro sets, well, they don’t have to be THE SAME cardboard walls. All that needs to stay the same is overall shape (walls and floor in 90 degree angle, unless you really want the crew to bump their heads into sloped walls constantly) and basic color scheme (military grayish walls, colored doors), as both of them are strictly utilitarian. It is not *supposed* to have ornaments, but feel free to add as much functional detals as you want - consoles, piping, hatches, signage, whatever floats your boat.
i love how people are trying to justify a change in design with some bizzare plot explenation - they changed it because the original would have looked shit on screen - nuff said
Right on NCC 635
#263 - The Galaxy class spaceframe and other hull components were fabricated under 0.3g conditions on the surface of Mars and underwent systems integration testing on the surface before being disconnected, powered down, and hauled into Mars orbit over Utopia Planitia for reassembly. Interior habitation elements were installed by means of industrial transporter pads and automated gamma-welding systems, and tied into standard consumables re– say, you -are- cleared for this information, aren’t you?
Rick
A Franchise Guy Once Upon a Time
the corridor looks like something out of the Pegasus, or Galactica.
273
that would cover the built on the ground issue.
but if, a alternate reality then mirror was I.S.S. and this ground built Ent is U.S.S.
so what is that a non-mirror iniverse alternate reality?
Dark Mirror pg 62
The design was overtly the same - the sloped deisk of the primary hull, the nacels, the secondary hull seemed larger; the naccels were raked further forward, and lower. The primary hull’s curve was deeper and now had a frowning look about it. If ships had expressions, this one had its eyes narrowed. It was a cruel look, and intimidating. Just visable, because of the rake of the primary hull……
#283
From upthread…
“Why did you guys decide to change the design of the Enterprise so radically from a design which had become such a well-known cultural icon?”
Orci replied by saying this (post 282, I think):
“Can’t comment too much because it involves a story point to a degree, but I can say that one of our guiding principles in our approach to many things in this movie is to make them feel REAL as can be. Willing to discuss this more as we get closer.”
I made a kit car in my garage once - then wheeled it outside - that was real!
278
instead of a transparrent medium i was thinking of a field that held back what ever it was that was behind it. for this movie any way.
This is how Star Trek is done for this century - Epic in scale, relevant in todays world and Star Trek in everything else. truly fantastic.
Don’t know if this has been mentioned, cuz I didn’t read every post , but as for the corridors ,they look like the new sections of corridors from the defiant from “In A Mirror Darkly”?
hmmm. The ant-gravs can get this up into space…. but… why do they needs cranes, scaffold, etc.? Anti-gravs should eliminate the need for these… Also, I am diappointed that they have chosen to go more with the TMP look for the E… looks like no lower sensor dome, instead looks like cruumy TMP E lower suacer design… yuk…
286
what ship was in the space dock as seen in TNG Galaxys Child?
was the after her orbital fitting.
#288
My point wasn’t that this was a Mirror universe movie…
“Not that I’m saying that this is a “Mirror Universe” movie, but, could the result of the actions of our [known] Romulan character have affected development in the Federation (or Terra) to the point that “this” Enterprise is one of the consequences?”
My point was that in Dark Mirror, there was a reference that Picard noted — in reading some of ‘his’ books — an increasing divergence between the mores of the “Mirror Universe” and the “our Universe”… That, iirc, the characters of Shakespeare were already a little different than their ‘normal’ universe counterparts, but that the degree of difference widened as time progressed — to the point that there was a huge difference in human morals between the ‘contemporary’ Mirror Universe and the ‘contemporary’ ‘our’ universe.
I’m only trying to make sense of the coy remark by one of the writers that there may be a plot point in the basis for the difference, and that a non-canon source (and, non-canon sources were not going to necessarily be ignored) has some discussion about differences between even ‘contemporary’ Enterprises.
That’s all…
To those complaineing about it not looking 100% like it did in TOS.
Modern Movie goers would of LAUGHED at the teaser and I would of had to sneak out of the the theater after Cloverfield was over, hanging my head in shame for being a Star Trek fan.
The 1960’s model is still in Washington D.C. if you want to see it still.
This is a 2008 film, deal with the changes, or do you want Trek to die for good ? If you do want it to die for good that’s verry selfish of you. It’s no longer 1966 folks, you have to accept that.
- W -
* Who’s let go of the past as it’ll NEVER come back EVER *
I’m pretty sure (and please do correct me if i am wrong) that the Enterprise we all have seen in TOS was not a new ship when Kirk became captain. Kirk was the third captain, apparently, after captains April and Pike. Therefore, that ship was in service for some time before Kirk, which gives A LOT of opportunity to explain any design differences between the time of its construction and the TOS series.
In fact