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Yelchin Talks Chekov and Trek January 28, 2008

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Cast , trackback

Anton Yelchin is currently doing the rounds promoting his upcoming film Charlie Bartlett, but it seems all interviewers want to talk about is role as Pavel Chekov in JJ Abrams new Star Trek. Back when the young actor landed the role he admitted that he was not familiar with Star Trek or Chekov, but now he seems well versed and opines on both at length…even calling the character "the weirdest guy." See below for his thoughts on both and more.


Below are excerpts from interviews with Yelchin from IGN, CanMag and SuperHeroFlix.

On the scale of the new movie and Enterprise

We were shooting a scene yesterday and you really just realize how epic it is. That word is so overused but it really is pretty epic. You just sit there and you’re like, ‘God damn, I’m on the Enterprise.’ Would I ever have thought that I’d be on the Enterprise? No. It’s pretty great. It’s a pretty different experience though.

On Chekov and TOS

Chekov is the weirdest guy. Watching the old show really makes you realize just how strange, how incredible it was that they brought, first of all, a Russian character on right smack in the middle of the cold war. There’s one scene where they’re talking to Apollo or something, or the god that used to be Apollo in the old show. Apollo’s like, ‘I am Apollo!’ and Chekov is like, ‘And I am the czar of all Russias.’…I really think the old show for what it was is really a great, great show. I watch it and really enjoy it. It’s so perfectly cheesy and B, and absolutely unapologetic for it and I think that’s what works. They shot this thing where they walk up to a cave that looks like it’s made out of Styrofoam and Spock says, ‘Oh, this is definitely advanced technology.’ You’re like, ‘Yes, yes, that is advanced technology.’ But it’s really fun. It’s a fun show to watch.

On his accent:

I think it’s pretty good. I mean, it’s great. No, I mean it’s good. The thing is about Walter Koenig was his accent was interesting. I think I’m just going to leave it at interesting. And it was sort of like, all of us had to make the choice of what we wanted to take from the original one and what we sort of wanted to bring to it. And there are certain things that I took from him. Like, the fact that he replaced every "v" with a "w," which is weird. Like, I don’t really know where that decision came from. But regardless, that’s a decision that he made. And I thought it was important to bring that to the character. So it was sort of like, I talked to [director] J.J. [Abrams] a lot about what he wanted. And his thing was, like, we’re not making something that’s supposed to be the old Star Trek. He’s making his own movie, but there is a bit of, like, I think people want to see what they love. And so we’re all sort of trying to find things that will remind people of the old characters. And so that’s been interesting sort of picking up little things.

On differences playing Chekov and Charlie Bartlett + mentions Star Trek will have a ‘battlefield’

[Star Trek] is totally different than anything I have worked on. It is difficult in certain ways. I could sit and talk about Charlie Bartlett for hours. Because I spent hours getting to know this guy. I know the back of my hand worse than I know Charlie Bartlett. You sit and you have a character whose head you can dig deep, deep, deep into. Then you have Star Trek. There are only so many levels to Pavel Chekov. But then, there is a certain fun to that as well. I have had an opportunity to sit and watch the old series. I have been able to find what I’d like to pick up on. It is weird being on a set where a lot of the actors, myself included, have no idea what a turbine engine is. Or what it might do when it explodes. You are looking at a green screen that is supposed to be a battlefield. But nothing is going on. It is fun. It really puts you into the frame of mind that you are making a movie. I had this feeling that I was on a big film. It is the old classic idea of what a film set is supposed to be. I have never had that opportunity. It is fun. Is very different. It is interesting. I do really love digging deep. I love getting to know a person so well. I think that is the most important thing. You have to know everything. From the way they walk to the way they talk. To the way they dress. That is all an extension of who they are. It is weird when you get onto a set, and that isn’t the case. No one asked me what I thought the Star Trek uniform should look like. Everything was planned out. But I had to find things in that sort of environment. That is very interesting. It is just cool and epic to be on that set. It is a lot of fun.

By the way, if you missed it, Anton jumped into the conversation from the Bridge of the Enterprise here on TrekMovie.com. Asking a fan question on what his big ‘wow’ moment was he said:

For me, it was extraordinary to spend my last shooting day on the enterprise. it really struck me just how epic it all was…AND WILL BE.

Will we hear Chekov scream?
What we really want to know…will the movie keep the Chekov tradition of being the one to get the most abuse. Short of the red shirts (as the video below shows), Chekov seems to always be the one to take the brunt of things on Star Trek.

 

Charlie Bartlett, starring Anton Yelchin opens in the US on February 22nd. More info at IMDB, Trailer below.

 

More from Yelchin can be found at interviews with IGN, CanMag and SuperheroFlix
 

Comments

1. SD - January 28, 2008

Like, a really cool kid ;)

Honestly, he’s a cutie. But I never expected Chekov to have a rel big appearance *G*

2. Danya Romulus - January 28, 2008

Please god, no replacing Vs with Ws… as any Russian speaker (like Yelchin) knows, in real Russian there is actually NO W sound and English loanwords with W are transliterated with V…so in other words exactly the opposite of what Koenig, bless him, did.

3. Wessel Wes - January 28, 2008

This clown has no respect for Koenig. And he looks like the floating space baby from 2001. Fire him, JJ.

4. Cranston - January 28, 2008

#2 – agreed. There is no “w” sound in Russian. The Vs can take on a very slight rounded tinge (at least to English-speakers’ ears) when they come before a back vowel, like U or O, but that’s very slight, and certainly not every speaker does it. Koenig’s version was (and I’ll agree with Yelchin here) … interesting.

5. Dominic - January 28, 2008

Battlefields and exploding turbines? Sounds… fun.

6. Vulcan Soul - January 28, 2008

Jeez, this guy sure likes to ramble.. and he sure likes “like” ;)

7. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - January 28, 2008

It won’t really be a Trek movie unless at some point Chekov howls in pain for one reason or another.

TMP- Plasma burned hand -EEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWW

TWOK – Hungry Trilobite bores through ear and brain – EEEEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

TVH – Falls of 20 ft pier – EEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW

New Trek- Sulu gets a little too friendly when he sneaks into Chekov’s quarters after hours – WOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUCH !!!!

8. Red Shirt - January 28, 2008

Say Nuclear Wessels.

No!

9. Z - January 28, 2008

I definitely see a young checkov in that kid

10. Kynan - January 28, 2008

seems like bit of a punk kid who doesnt really understand what a great thing hes now involved with. seems like he still doesnt really get star trek or how high quality and important tos was especially back in the 60’s. oh well, but im sure he’ll do ok for his probably not too large part in the movie. at least he seems like an ok actor.hopfully he will learn to respect star trek and Mr. Koenig more and not to say stupid things to the press.

11. rebecca - January 28, 2008

Silly as Koenig’s accent may have been, in a way it wouldn’t be Chekov if he didn’t have that funky way of pronouncing things. I mean, the nuclear wessels! Classic! Anyway, give Yelchin a break, he may not be a Trekkie but he sounds like he takes his acting seriously.

12. penguin44 - January 28, 2008

Great Futurama gag #8! I still laugh at that one.

13. theSpockette - January 28, 2008

He’s cute and has a good sense of humor. :lol: I think he’ll make an…interesting…Chekov. ;) I think he’ll be good at it!

14. theSpockette - January 28, 2008

P.S. Though I must admit, it’s weird seeing him done by a guy several years younger than I am!

15. Lou - January 28, 2008

LOL, Garth!! *ROFL!!*

But seriously, the Character Chekov is a real clown, and for that reason, I feel strongly that this kid will do very well! :D

16. girl6 - January 28, 2008

Cheesy and B? He better take that back. Unless he meant cheesy and bacony, then ok. The Tellarites were kinda bacony. But cheesy? No way!

Except for the Horta…sorta. Actually, she was more lasagna-y. Pizza-y, maybe.

You never saw cheese on Star Trek. Green poultry and ginger roots but never cheese!

Dammit!

Anyway. I don’t mind this kid so much. He’s a good actor.

17. I AM THX-1138 - January 28, 2008

Walter Koenig wasn’t a Trek fan when he was cast as Chekov either.

18. I AM THX-1138 - January 28, 2008

And girl6, the single cell thingys in Operation: Annihilate! were sort of cheesy. Or eggy.

19. The Realist - January 28, 2008

Like and Like then Like oh and like and then like I like something like wow like. God I hate that word! And stop blabering on! I realy don’t LIKE this kid. There we go kid LIKE used as it was intended, not to fill in space in a sentence!

20. JimJ (transplanted Hawkeye in Huskerland) - January 28, 2008

Frankly, I think people are being a little tough on the guy. in some ways he sounds like he is in awe, in other ways, he’s kind of a realist (saying TOS is now kind of cheesy). I’m a TOS purist and nothing beats the REAL Star Trek, BUT…

I admire that he did his homework and watched episodes, remembering things like Apollo and basically what Checkov’s reaction was to him. To me, that is respect for the character.

21. Devon - January 28, 2008

# 3 – That was a little over the top. Sounded like you were just trying to be rude for the hell of it.

#10 – “seems like he still doesnt really get star trek”

Umm okay? And how exactly did you derive that from his comment?

“or how high quality and important tos was especially back in the 60’s?”

Important? Yes. High Quality? Well….

22. Will - January 28, 2008

Looks like all the ladies are Yelchin fans and the guys say he’s a clown! Haha

23. Andy Patterson - January 28, 2008

Seems to be an honest, just who he is, says it like it strikes him, kid.

Makes me a feel a bit old.

24. Dansk - January 28, 2008

#3 and #10, lighten up! I’m sorry to tell you, but a lot of TOS was pretty damn cheesy. That’s part of the reason I love it!

25. Sci-Fi Bri - January 28, 2008

personally, I would rather have a perfect Russian accent than a Koenig knockoff. Koenig’s Russian accent is so wrong it has to be insulting to Russian speakers.

canon schmanon

26. Kevin - January 28, 2008

“Looks like all the ladies are Yelchin fans and the guys say he’s a clown! Haha”

That is kind of funny. Guys have a tendency to get defensive when they see someone younger, better looking and more successful than them.

Of course Koenig’s Russian wasn’t spot on. He wasn’t from Russia. Doohan’s Scottish wasn’t exactly spot on either.

Doesn’t really matter, b/c accents can get a bit muddled the more you move around and the more people with different accents you interact with. I’ve known many people who move from the northeast to the south and heard them develop thick southern accents. I’ve also seen people move from the south with thick accents and it becomes less pronounced over time. When I moved around in the Army and interacted with people from all over the world, I’m not sure what kind of accent I started to develop, but it was different that everyone back home.

Personally I think he’ll do fine.

…and I don’t think Koenig every really became a Star Trek fan.

27. Kynan - January 28, 2008

let me explain what i was driving at. I think that he seems like a fine actor an im sure he will do good in the movie for that reason.an he seems like a nice enough guy in general. i dont hate him or want to bag him because hes not the biggest Trek fan ever. Again ‘im sure he’ll do fine in the movie’

i just felt that he dosnt fully respect what star trek is yet. in a certain kind of way that is.an i found it a little disapointing. yes TOS has some cheezy lines an so on but for its time…well look at other tv shows back then an even most movies. an anyway TOS can get away with it because of its over all quality in the ideas of the stories an well so on an on i dont wanna get going on forever explaining the good things about tos and star trek in general.i asume u all know anyway. but well basically i thought its easy to tell he hasnt grown up with trek and is very new to it an understanding it an also hes new to big movies.

the thing that he said that i actually was most put of by was that he seemed to think acting in star trek didnt require the same amount of character exploration an empathy as some small film. i just disagree with that on many levels. but anyway i dont hate him, he’s a good actor from what i can see. he is pritty young an has a different look on star trek cus he never grew up with it, he hasnt watched it in all its forms an so on. but for the film i dont think itll matter too much.

28. Etha Williams - January 28, 2008

Yelchin seems to have a good sense of humor, which I think is key with Chekov.

I loved this line:

“They shot this thing where they walk up to a cave that looks like it’s made out of Styrofoam and Spock says, ‘Oh, this is definitely advanced technology.’ You’re like, ‘Yes, yes, that is advanced technology.’”

I’m of two minds on the “w” thing…on the one hand, it makes no sense as far as an actually Russian accent goes…on the other hand, it just seems like it’s part of who Chekov was…(a man who apparently couldn’t pronounce his own first name…Pa-wel…)

29. New Chekov - January 28, 2008

It’s an interesting challenge for these actors to be asked to make each role their own, but also choose aspects from the original actors to incorporate. I think he’s right to include Chekov’s v’s and w’s as it quickly became how he was identified. That and the fact that he had the uncanny ability to relate anything and EVERYTHING to Russian history. If our script-writers have provided the moment for that ability’s return (or introduction), more power to them because that could easily feel forced and out of date right now…

…but it would be awesome… “Sir! Doze savages! Prisoners in Russia ver forced to play Russian Roulette vile dare guardz vatched dem! Dis Nero is a bad man!”…

30. Dr. Image - January 28, 2008

Ahh. Another young actor who has no idea what fame has in store for him down the line, Trekwise. They always start out this way.
After his first few cons, he’ll START to understand.

31. sean - January 28, 2008

Isn’t anyone going to point out that the “W’ for “V” sound thing was intentional on Koenig’s part? It was a common thing among his family, who had emigrated from (I think) the Ukraine.

Yelchin will be fine.

32. Cranston - January 28, 2008

#26 Kevin —
You make a good point about accents — yes, there is a lot of variety, especially when people interact with lots of other people speaking other accents.

The thing that makes Chekov (and Scotty) cringe-worthy isn’t a muddling of accents, it’s the fact that their muddling has miraculously produced extremely familiar and classically stereotypical “Hollywood” accents. ;)

And I’m fine with Yelchin. I think he has the right attitude.

33. brady - January 28, 2008

he like doesnt like ya know really like respect the old like ya know star trek or Koenig for like being the 1st like chekov ya know, like maybe he needs to like stop doing ya know like interviews that like ya know make him sound like a frickin like iliterate teenage like dumbass.

34. The Guardian of Forever - January 28, 2008

It’s not cheesy D:

Okay, so compared to modern television it might come across as cheesy to your average civilian who doesn’t practically breathe TOS, but… it’s not cheesy.

Except maybe the Gorn.

35. S. John Ross - January 28, 2008

He seems nice enough, even if he talks about TOS the way I talk about the 60’s Batman show … sounds like he takes the work seriously, tho’, and that’s all that’s really necessary. He seems interesting.

I think I’m just going to leave it at interesting. ;)

36. zzbluesman - January 28, 2008

I just wanted to bring up a point,that Chekov wasnt on the show until the second season.but Kahn remembered seeing him in the first season episode Space seed.I wonder if the movie will clear any of this up.

37. Victor Hugo - January 28, 2008

“like”,”like”,”like”,”like”,”like”,”like”,
“old”,”old”,”old”,”old”,”old”,”old”.
Gosh, buy a dictionary! Learn a few words”

38. brady - January 28, 2008

36..According to this article above we’re starting at zero soooooooooooooooo none of this has ever happened.I’m also hoping that if I become the purist of all purists and complain enough maybe JJ will invite me to be in the show to win me over too lol

39. Oregon Trek Geek - January 28, 2008

If you think about it, TOS to him must seem about the same as silent movies. So TOS would seem pretty ancient to him. Obviously, being Russian, (right?) he’ll be able to do an authentic accent, and that’s great. But honestly, 99.9 percent of the people who originally watched TOS never noticed that Chekov’s or Scotty’s accents weren’t authentic.

40. Rob - January 28, 2008

HFRO was better , right?

41. JimJ (transplanted Hawkeye in Huskerland) - January 28, 2008

The Gorn is the best cheese around. I hated the one from “Enterprise”!

42. johnconner - January 28, 2008

#36:

I’ll clear it up for you. See, to you and me, having the imprint of 432 Enterprise crewmen, along with every other person who had as much as glanced your way, would be way unreasonable-sounding. But Khan … he never forgot a face.

He was Total Recall back when Arnold was still in short pants.

Chekov was probably in urinal #1 on Deck 23 when Khan came in and went to urinal #6 (the furthest one away). Awkward I know, but that’s the word on the street.

43. DavidJ - January 28, 2008

27

Oh come on, we diehard fans REALLY need to get over ourselves sometimes. So freakin what if he thinks the show was a little cheesy.

I thought he gave a really fresh perspective on the whole experience, and the excitement and enthusiasm he has for the movie was GREAT to hear. Anyone who wasn’t cracking up while reading this interview is just taking themselves and Trek way too seriously, I think.

Personally I’d rather hear more of THIS kind of talk than the overly earnest and “actorly” talk we hear from guys like Quinto all the time. I love actors, but sometimes they can be a bit full of themselves. I don’t sense that with this kid at ALL, and it’s refreshing as hell.

44. DavidJ - January 28, 2008

39

Actually Craig Ferguson was joking on his show recently that, back in Scotland, Scotty was the only character on the show they COULDN’T understand.

“What the hell is he SAYING??” LOL

45. sean - January 28, 2008

Guys, he’s 18 years old. Cut him some slack. I know 40 year olds that say ‘like’ every other word too. As for not respecting Koenig…huh? Think you’re reading into what he said a bit too much. The only thing you could possibly construe as a negative comment was with regard to the accent, which honestly was quite bad. I think even Koenig would admit that.

You can’t really expect a young kid born in ’89 to take Star Trek as seriously as someone who grew up with it. Plus, he may just not be a SciFi buff. Think of when they interview Hayden Panitierre about Heroes – she’s polite, but she’s not exactly enthused. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t do a great job with the material she’s given.

I think he’s got a healthy attitude, and I’m sure he’ll be a great Chekov. It’s not like any Trek production ever centered around that character anyway.

46. max - January 28, 2008

I knew some people were going to be a pile on this kid when he called Trek cheesy and showed he doesn’t take it as seriously as his religion or whatever…. Relax. He’s right. Trek is a crazy silly thing and some of the props and sets are a little below modern standards, but as a fan I can admit to it. Yet, it still speaks to me profoundly. Yelchin seems to be expressing the same opinion in his own way. Good for him.

I agree with #27. I’d rather read more off the cuff, call it like you see it interviews than the well rehearsed actorish responses that we’ve already heard time and again that tell us nothing new about these people.

47. AJ - January 28, 2008

Walter Koenig’s parents were from Russia, and lived for a time in Lithuania. Walter actually speaks Russian (I studied for years, and tried it out on him once at a con, and he slipped right in to it).

So the accent thing was made up for dramatic impact, or to attract Monkees-obsessed young girls. Just like Yelchin said, for his Chekhov, he chose to do the same.

48. johnconner - January 28, 2008

Actually, I think there’s a fundamental difference between enjoying modern entertainment as opposed to something like Star Trek or Twilight Zone from the 60s. Less special effects meant that they had to be creative as a production unit, while at the same time, we as the audience had to use our imagination much more.

For instance, I can STILL watch Star Trek without once thinking “Oh, that’s just a styrofoam rock” or “that’s so obviously a soundstage, that’s not Tombstone” or “Nice diagnosis with those salt shakers, Bones.”

These days, most everything you can imagine can be reproduced in some fashion. There is no need to rely on visual trickery or even your own imagination as a viewer.

So I guess my point is, yeah, if you look at it on a surface level, sure it’s cheesy. But if you can get lost in it, the resulting experience is anything but.

As for the new Chekov’s seemingly flippant attitude: I was 18 once. I didn’t know everything either. But he seems to be more willing than some older, more experienced actors I could name to take Trek seriously when faced with the challenge.

49. Katie G. - January 28, 2008

Re: #11. rebecca and #26. Kevin

I totally agree with you. Love that “nuclear wessels” scene in ST:IV. Most of us are not linguists or experts or even familiar with English spoken with a Russian accent. Personally, I’m not going to be watching the movie looking for screw-ups/mistakes etc.

However, if all the characters are very different because they don’t want to imitate the originals, something will be lost. Hope they don’t make them too different. Hopefully Anton will research the Russian accent.

(Didn’t read every post so forgive me if I duplicate anything.)

Hah! Just “googled” his name and among all the things I found was this:

“Anton Viktorovich Yelchin (Russian: Антон Викторович Ельчин; born March 11, 1989).”

Hello – R-U-S-S-I-A-N ! ! ! He won’t have to go far to learn how to do an authentic Russian accent, now will he?

More:

“Yelchin was born in Leningrad, USSR (now Saint Petersburg, Russia), the son of Irina Korina and Viktor Yelchin, figure skaters who were national celebrities as stars of the Leningrad Ice Ballet for fifteen years… Yelchin’s family moved to the United States in September of 1989.”

At least he has his own hair (he does, doesn’t he?). (Sorry, Walter.) Walter Koenig (for any non-TOS people, the original Chekov) is going to be 72 this coming September 14. Holy crap!!

More on Walter Koenig:

“Koenig (pronounced /keɪnɪg/) was born in Chicago, Illinois to Sarah Strauss and Isadore Koenig, a businessman. Koenig’s parents were Jewish immigrants *from Russia*; his family lived in Lithuania when they emigrated and changed their surname from “Koenigsberg” to “Koenig”.”

He was cast as Chekov because of his resemblance to British actor/musician David Thomas (“Davy Jones” of the Monkees) to attract a younger audience, especially girls. (The studio’s publicity department, however, ascribed the inclusion of Chekov to an article in Pravda complaining about the lack of Russians in Star Trek.) Koenig wore a hairpiece while playing the character of Chekov on the original Star Trek series.”

and Re: #2 Danya Romulus, #4 Cranston, #11 rebecca, #25 Sci-Fi Bri

the article went on to say:

“Gene Roddenberry asked him to “ham up” his Russian accent to add a note of comedy relief to the series.”

Maybe that’s why his accent was so, um, ‘distinct’.

Anyway, I believe Anton will have an excellent accent (otherwise his parents will ground him for weeks!).

This is going to be good!!

kg

50. Katie G. - January 28, 2008

Re: #47. AJ

Oops, sorry. Guess you posted yours while I was typing mine. :-|

kg

51. elmachocombo - January 28, 2008

He may like, like, like to say like, but at least he makes sense and actually says something concrete. Quinto on the other hand doesn’t seem to know where his sentences are going once he begins them, sounding more like a politician than a Vulcan. Besides, have you tried having a conversation with the average 18 year old American lately? Anton seems like a bright young man who has a fun sense of irony, and his own set of sound opinions. How can that be bad for Chekov? It’s Chekov we should be concerned about, not Koenig. Sorry, Walter.

52. Katie G. - January 28, 2008

Another thought:

Walter Koenig was 31 when he appeared as “Pavel Chekov”. At least Anton will be closer in age and reflect youth well. As it was, I think Koenig did a great job appearing younger than he actually was. I had no idea he wasn’t the same age as the character. Didn’t think to look it up.

kg

53. Jeffrey S. Nelson - January 28, 2008

The Gorn is not cheesy. If you want cheesy, how about that sleazy cheesy guy on the Burger King commercials. I miss those.

54. JK - January 28, 2008

but didn’t chekov joint the enterprise crew in the 2nd season of TOS? how will Chekov’s presence in this film factor in with the canon of Star Trek. I am, admittedly, somewhat unfamiliar with some of TOS lore.

55. elmachocombo - January 28, 2008

Sorry if I am repeating here but Trek WAS pure, unadulterated cheese wiz! Every last little thing about it. What’s wrong with being honest about that? How is pointing out the obvious a sign of irreverence? Get over it. To those of you who insist on putting words in his mouth and jumping to the wrong conclusions, go back and read what he said again. It is my opinion that you have missed his point in its entirety. The kid’s alright! By the way, I love cheese wiz.

56. Katie G. - January 28, 2008

Re: #54. JK

Yeah, that’s true; however, they may say he was on the Enterprise but only got promoted to the bridge at that point; or that he was assigned or transferred to the Enterprise at some time “between seasons”. They’ll find a way. I do not know what is in the “Canon” regarding Chekov, so I cannot answer that question with confidence. Hopefully some more informed Trekker will see your post and answer it or maybe Anthony (Pascale) knows.

How about that, Anthony? Do you know or should we pay a visit to Memory Alpha? :-)

57. El_Nastro - January 28, 2008

There was very little about that show that wasn’t cheesy. That’s the whole reason I like it it. Granted, some thought went into certain aspects of the set design (primarily due to Matt Jeffries), but honestly….

Let’s ignore the special effects – (they did the best they could with the resources available) and just look at the storytelling.

Well over half the original episodes were HORRIBLE, and impossible for a thinking person to take seriously. “Spock’s Brain”, anyone? Or that episode where Kirk switched bodies with the chick, or the one where Kirk donned a stretchy headband and fell in love with a space-Indian-chick? “I AM KIROK!” The giant space-amoeba?! Perhaps we should consider the the insultingly stupid “parallel-Earth”-episodes like the Nazi-Planet, or the Prohbition Era Gangster Planet, or the Roman Empire Planet, or Showdown at the OK Corral World. The list goes on and on and on….

Entertaining? Yes.

“Serious, thought-provoking science-fiction”? No. A resounding no. Seriously cheesy, but in a good way.

58. El_Nastro - January 28, 2008

I’m not doggin’ on Star Trek here, folks, but neither am I deluding myself to what it was.

Here’s why, despite cheesiness, I like Star Trek:

I forget the episodes name, but there was this one where the aliens had taken over the Enterprise and assumed human form. The crew’s plan was to overload the aliens with human emotions. I’m not sure exactly why, but somehow getting the aliens really mad/sad/aroused, etc. would enable the heroes to regain the ship.

So there’s this scene where the head-alien is standing next to his second-in-command, who happens to be a smokin’ hot chick. Cpt. Kirk, in accordance with the plan, does the most AWESOME THING EVER….

He yells at them both for a moment, then, out of nowhere he rudely grabs the chick, violently kisses her, then immediately and without saying a word, bitch-slaps the guy. Then he just glares at both of them defiantly.

And THAT is the essence of Star Trek.

59. Cranston - January 28, 2008

#49 Katie G.–

Yes, it’s guaranteed that Yelchin’s accent will be far better than the one Koenig used, even if he does “w” the Vs as an homage. The little bit of accent I’ve heard him do (in a brief interview soon after his casting was announced) was pitch-perfect.

60. El_Nastro - January 29, 2008

Oh yeah…

Because so many of all the episodes from all the series were so poorly written and so very ill-conceived, well, that’s enough reason to stop worrying about “CANON”. Most of the ideas that constitute “CANON” are ridiculous to begin with, so if it can be improved upon, why not?

61. Maz NZ - January 29, 2008

Good on him … Fresh minds, new ideas.

62. Maz NZ - January 29, 2008

What will the Russian, US, Scots, Vulcan etc accents sound like in that century?

Anyway, diversity is good.

63. Engon - January 29, 2008

So, is a theater production with, all its artifice, cheesy? It’s called the “willing suspension of disbelief” and it requires you to invest something in the experience and not merely to have everything ladled down one’s throat.

64. Cheve - January 29, 2008

Give the guy a rest. He has shown a lot of respect for the role. He wouldn’t be having a deconstructing approach at acting him if not.

Thinking that TOS is cheesy or “B” series is in no way agains respecting it. He has analyzed Chekov as a person inside out through watching TOS (Which no other actor in the movie has done) and has built his whole persona through that. So, he will be the most respectfull of all ther cast and crew, but it doens’t matter to some of you, only that he has made some jokes.

I’m sure if this movie had had the exact same costumes and sets as TOS some of the exact same people would be arguing against it saying that it was camp and cheesy for today’s audience.

65. Garstanglerton - January 29, 2008

as for the ‘W’, it’s two hundred years in the future, maybe the russian language changed a bit by then, eh

66. Bart - January 29, 2008

Star Trek became mature and REAL science fiction with the movies and TNG. You could still sell those stories to the audience today. No-one would accept a movie in the style of a TOS episode!

67. Iowagirl - January 29, 2008

#59
Sometimes, it’s the twinkle of imperfection which guarantees genuine amusement.

To the cheesy “B”-group out there:

Try watching TOS not only with your eyes and your today’s notion of state-of-the-art technology and visual concepts, but with your brains, with your heart, and with your soul. Try to keep in mind that TOS more often than not was metaphorical, sound, emotional, and thought-provoking at the same time, and think about the fact that the majority of episodes attached the main importance to character interaction, human adventure, references to historic events and future possibilities, aptly played on literary references, didn’t miss out humor, and always kept in view a better future for everyone.

Yes, TOS had its cheesy moments, but if you say it’s been a cheesy show, I think you don’t get its standing and relevance.

68. Kynan - January 29, 2008

hell yeah #67 well said

69. Kynan - January 29, 2008

#64 all the actors watched old star trek episodes and movies and from their comments have a very healthy respect for star trek and the way their characters have been performed in the past. but like i said b4 Yelchin is younger didnt grow up with trek at all and so has a different out look at the moment. i think he will do fine in the movie because he seems to be a good actor an all that but still from his comments he would benifit from a more mature and respectful view of star trek if hes going to be in it. but yet again i say i still dont wish to just trash talk the kid because hes not the biggest star trek fan an doesnt fuly get it. hes a good actor an hell be fine i think in the movie.

70. Michael - January 29, 2008

still trusting JJ! full faith and looking forward to the new take. lets hope for box office success!

71. Kynan - January 29, 2008

#70 Michael

hell yeah. long live Trek.

72. Stanky McFibberich - January 29, 2008

I think, like having, like someone else (anyone else), like besides Koenig to play, like Chekov is, like the only recasting that, like makes any sense.

73. Mike T. - January 29, 2008

I like his comment about Spock and the styrofoam cave being advanced technology.

Of course it’s advanced technology, I’d like to see a caveman or for that matter someone off the street make styrofoam look like not just a cave, but a cave that looks like a giant monsters head with glowing red eyes.

I can’t wait to see this movie and i’m sure Mr. Yelchin will do Chekov proud.

74. jonboc - January 29, 2008

#66 “Star Trek became mature and REAL science fiction with the movies and TNG.”

uh…no. You really should become familiar with the entire body of work before you make assertions like that..

75. Tallguy - January 29, 2008

“With the exception of Leonard Nimoy, there are five thousand actors in Hollywood who can play any of our parts” – Walter Koenig, 2008

‘God damn, I’m on the Enterprise.’ doesn’t sound like a fan? Good grief, he specifically quoted Who Mourns for Adonais instead of just saying “he was always in these crazy situations” or something vague.

Good luck, kid.

76. doubleofive - January 29, 2008

Anton in the “Charlie Bartlett” trailer reminds me a lot of Matthew Broderick in “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”. Which makes me think this is just the beginning of a fantastic career.

77. Vashta - January 29, 2008

This is the only actor that bothers me so far. All the others seem to have a respect for Star Trek that baby face here just doesnt seem to have. I agree with #69, yes TOS had it’s cheesy 60’s style moments, it was a product of it’s time…but to think of the entire series as cheesy and b-type…

78. JL - January 29, 2008

#7 – you forgot MIRROR, MIRROR: AAARRRRRRGGHHH (the agony booth is an effective means of discipline)

79. ctiii - January 29, 2008

This guy needs to be shown the door. His comments show he has no real appreciation for Koenig, Checkov, and Trek in general.

In a way it’s good that he was so honest though, at least we know the filmmakers havent coached him as to what to say, otherwise he’d be repeating the same old formulaic speech that all the others have churned out, Nimoy included.

80. Joseph - January 29, 2008

I think anton is great and that there are alot of fanboys on here that are just bitter that hes younger, better looking, probably allready had more girlfriends than they have, AND is in star trek without being the ‘expert’ (read: obsessive, geek) they are.

81. diabolik - January 29, 2008

His youthful outlook shows perfectly what most kids today think when they see TOS… cheesy.

Hope this changes the perception some.

82. Trek Nerd Central - January 29, 2008

He’s actually a terrific actor – my guess is he’ll do just fine as Chekhov.

And though I ribbed him mercilessly in the other thread for all the “likes,” I bet he tones them down for the next interview. He probably cringed when he read this one.

Yes, Chekhov IS “the weirdest guy.” Isn’t that why we love him? His idiosyncracies? Aside from his pocket-size mop-topped cuteness.

I do take issue with calling the original Trek “cheesy.” Maybe it had budget restraints. . .and maybe the special effects were pre-CGI. But “Lost in Space” is cheesy. Not “Star Trek.” It was too smartly conceived. The first two seasons, anyway.

83. Dennis Bailey - January 29, 2008

The kid sounds great. If the trailer for “Charlie Bartlett” is any indication, he’s very talented.

84. Son of Sarek (the original) - January 29, 2008

Give him a break. I grew up with Star Trek. I love it just like it is. However, I can definitely see that by today’s standards some of the sets and special effects can be considered “cheesy” (e.g., Horta, and Gorn ouch). In 1969, on network television those effects were pretty darn good, but they haven’t aged well. I dare say some of the CGI work we see on television today will receive the same response 20 years from now.

85. Jim - January 29, 2008

One of the things that seems to be easily overlooked in some of these threads is that TOS did not exist in a vacumn, it was a product of its time, a part of the zeitgeist that animated the sixties and early seventies. Some of what made TOS so fresh and new in that context very well may seem utterly commonplace and humdrum to anyone who “came of awareness” years or even decades afterwards. After all, how many people do you know under the age of say, 30 who will willingly watch a black and white movie?

Something became very clear to me after reading and re-reading the comments from the on-line chat sessions with Abrams and Co. from over the weekend. (It might have been clearer to a lot of others earlier, but me old grey cells, they ain’t what they used to be. Plus, there has been very very little out in terms of substance from the creative team to latch onto until that chat session.) Namely, they have collectively glommed on to what they see as the brightest and best aspects of TOS – the basics, the core, the heart or whatever you choose to call it. They have created a story that will allow these elements to respectfully and with honor for “what has gone before” be brought into the context that can be appreciated by an audience living in a world where forty years has past since the original vision of TOS was first articulated.

When Lindeman said “This ain’t your Daddy’s Star Trek”, I was seriously pissed off. But after reading the transcripts from Friday, I realized what he really meant was – this is not a nostalgia trip. It’s not 1968 and more – it’s 2008. But it’s the core of TOS we want to bring to viewers in 2008, not the trappings of the thing.

Maybe a week or so ago, I would have been cheesed off by our new Chekov’s cheesey comments. Not so today, thinking about the whole project in this new light.

86. Diabolik - January 29, 2008

But… if it ain’t as cheesy in the new movie, how can it be canon?

Just sayin’ it before someone else does… :)

Really, though, if you squeeze out the cheese and take the essense of Trek, it can make an awesome movie. We know, we’ve seen some excellent original cast movies that rocked, w/o cheese.

87. Son of Sarek (the original) - January 29, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM

for your review

88. Nathan - January 29, 2008

Huh? You’re going after him for saying that TOS was cheesy? Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but TOS is most definitely a very, very cheesy show. And I’m not talking about just the special effects; those are actually quite good. But whenever Kirk begins an “inspirational speech,” or he and McCoy decide to crack yet another joke at Spock’s expense, we get a nice helping of very special cheese… not just any cheese, by the way…. Extra sharp, Cheddar cheese!

I call upon all of you naysayers to go back and rewatch the “Kirk reads the Constitution” scene from The Omega Glory, and then come and then come and tell me how dramatic and serious, and not at all cheesy, TOS was. Sure, it’s a great show, and sure it was incredibly advanced for its time; but it’s still pretty darn cheesy. And, frankly, that’s half the fun…

89. British Naval Dude - January 29, 2008

Checkov was young but he also knew a lot… he started babbling on in the Apollo episode so much ol’ Kirk chided him about being like Spock…

Don’t send this young man down Davey Jones’ locker just yet… oh wait… he’s supposed to be like Davey Jones, ain’t he?….

arrrrr…..

I never thought old Pavel couldn’t even pronounce his own name… Pawel…

But then again, every time I read one o’ them books by Nabakov, Turgenev or Dostoyesvski, I do notice the English translation turns all the “v”s to “w”s… arrrr…. Nabakow, Turgenew, Dostoyeswski…

90. star trackie - January 29, 2008

89 ” call upon all of you naysayers to go back and rewatch the “Kirk reads the Constitution” scene from The Omega Glory, and then come and then come and tell me how dramatic and serious, and not at all cheesy, TOS was.”

By the same token, I’d call upon all “cheese lovers” to watch ALL of TOS, not just a handful of episodes..or just “scenes” from episodes that make the accusations easy. Sure,there is some cheese..on occasion…but it is usually accompanied by some very fine wine.

91. Diabolik - January 29, 2008

If Trek is cheese, then it’s pure, deliscious, melts-in-your-mouth Velveeta. Mmmmmmmm…

92. karanadon - January 29, 2008

…he’s signed on for three films?! http://www.syfyportal.com/news424670.html

This really is gonna be the rebirth of the franchise we all hoped for!! :D

93. Cap - January 29, 2008

Great kid.

But he’s talking about Turbines? That sounds like the Enterprise nacelles!

And a BIG spoiler, too. If those turbines are exploding.
Youch.

94. 1701 over Gotham City - January 29, 2008

Like, I think he’s a bit, like, well,no, like I’m glad that he’s like having fun, like, but show a bit more, like, RESPECT for the show that BROUGHT you this like… JOB.

Regardless of how Koenig did the accent… THAT is Chekov! Scotty’s accent was also terrible, but THAT is Scotty!!!

Give us THOSE characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s what we want to see, and everybody knows that.

Sure… the show had some cheese. But anybody that Disagrees the show did not also have great elements of everything from suspense to humor to horror to action can kiss my big fat white butt, to quote Henry Blake.
Remember this… you might have come to Trek from TNG or (Gods help you) ENT, but NONE of it would exist at all without Kirk and co.

95. Dennis Bailey - January 29, 2008

#94: “It’s what we want to see, and everybody knows that.”

Well if that’s the case then Paramount should save itself 130 million dollars and instead make some other movie that people will actually pay to see.

96. Cap - January 29, 2008

Sorry, did nobody else notice that … over the thumping of a perfectly well-intentioned and extremely talented actor?

97. Paul - January 29, 2008

I still don’t understand what’s Chekov doing in this movie, in first place. Isn’t he supposed to be like 15 years old by the time Kirk graduated the Academy?

I seriously hope that they didn’t make him Kirk’s schoolmate.

98. JERRY - January 29, 2008

Please, PLEASE let’s not repeat the juvenile treatment Wil Wheaton got just by being the youngest member of the cast. I read absolutely nothing disrespectful in what Anton Yelchin said. As someone else pointed out, he never grew up on Classic TREK and as a young man in this era certainly would see the show differently, as he would the original OUTER LIMITS or WILD WILD WEST, BLAKE’S 7, etc.

Yelchin will do just fine.

Just be glad he’s been exposed to TOS, has watched it, enjoyed it, and come to appreciate it on some level. It’s better than most teens or young men I know who can’t quit harping on HALO 3, wouldn’t you agree?

99. RaveOnEd - January 29, 2008

Jeez, damned if you do, damned if you don’t: Yelchin actually quotes episodes from the series and gets bashed for it, then Quinto gets bashed for saying he won’t be doing much viewing of the series.

And, I’m surprised how many “fans” here can’t even spell Chekov’s name correctly…

100. SD - January 29, 2008

#99 Word.

101. Ali - January 29, 2008

It’s like, “like” has replaced verbs – so kids say “and I’m like “get out of it” and he’s like “no” and I’m like “Yes.” I blame the teachers

102. British Naval Dude - January 29, 2008

#99 Chequov… CheckOff… Even me uncle Vanya couldn’t spell it right…

Name? Checkov
Rank? Admiral…

arrrr….

103. Diabolik - January 29, 2008

#92… let’s hope it is… they sign them on for the option of three films… but the others get made only if deemed profitable. The Superman Returns actors were signed for three but the sequels are in doubt.

Hopefully it will do so well they’ll be around for years and years!

104. Ty Webb - January 29, 2008

This guy sounds like a disaster area. Why oh why didn’t they hire a late twenty something theatre actor that doesn’t think this gig is his next high school play.

105. Brad - January 29, 2008

Because Chekov is much younger then Kirk & Spock,
it makes they have to get someone who looks like they are 14.

106. Alex - January 29, 2008

lol @ 57

107. Closettrekker - January 29, 2008

#10–His reactions are much the same as any person in his age group would have at watching a 40 year old tv show. I think you are being a bit harsh. If anything, it shows that JJ and co. have a monumentous task in front of them if they are to attract new audiences in his age group. I think he appreciates TOS as much as can be expected from someone who has been spoiled by modern effects, etc. And the simple fact that he and JJ are having such conversations tells me that they are taking this very seriously and DO respect the work before them.

108. British Naval Dude - January 29, 2008

What if tha movie tells their own individual stories- told one at a time and then colliding onto each other?
Auch no! I hope they don’t just time travel / backstory flash to every one’s early days… Like Spock roundin’ up a posse…

…. And now we join young Pavel, gazin’ above the Yeltsin City skyline…
“Von day I vish to be on a ship called Enterprise with a keptan named Kirk… Or maybe Ramius.” ….

Stating the obvious har: Ramius, of course, had a nuclear wessel…

109. British Naval Dude - January 29, 2008

yes I know i transposed the v’s and w’s… on purpose, aye! New accent!
Me last post here- promise!

110. Closettrekker - January 29, 2008

#54–You are correct, however, TOS is lacking in a chronological dynamic. You can watch the episodes in any order you like (as long as you view the two-parters as single episodes). Maybe he(Checkov) just did not have a prominent role on the bridge until the second season. There is nothing (to my knowledge) in canon which precludes that from being the case. Anyway, JJ is unhandicapped by a timeline when it comes to showing certain characters because the film can depict several different time periods, if necessary, to tell the story.

111. Michael - January 29, 2008

how many people have complained about the film before it has finished? dont think paramount will let it fail after nemisis. loved alias and jj knows how to deliver. if it has a good true star trek story and jj’s style, and has the banter between spock and kirk, it will be big, for fans and new people. it could bring more fans to a history that has been dying

112. Chris Peterson - January 29, 2008

So when TV Land started showing horribly sliced up episodes of TOS, did they cut the cheese?

113. John N - January 29, 2008

Some people in here really need to get over themselves.

To the people complaining about his use of the word “like”: Yeah, so what? I’d like to get you up in a public speaking situation, and transcribe how many times the words “ummmm”, or “uggghhhh” come out of your mouth. For freaks sake, is your life so pathetic that you have to jump all over other people to make you feel better about yourselves?

As for his thoughts that TOS is cheesy… get your heads out of the sand. Just because we love it, grew up with it, and think that it’s excellent story-telling, shouldn’t blind us to the fact that they had a miniscule budget, and it was made with materials and skills from the 60’s. If the majority of young people today DIDN’T find it cheesy, the franchise wouldn’t be in need of rescuing.

I mean, come on… you can love something, knowing full well that it has imperfections. In fact, the fact that we love it, in SPITE of it’s imprefections is a greater kind of love.

Lay off the kid, will ya? Before I started frequenting this site, I thought that Star Trek fans were a hell of a lot more tolerant of other people. I’m sorry that only seems to apply to a percentage of you.

114. Trek Defense League - January 29, 2008

Walter Koenig told me he based his accent on his Russian parents.

115. OneBuckFilms - January 29, 2008

I think it should be pointed out that Mr. Yelshin IS being respectful.

1. Checkov is NOT that deep of a character. He was in many ways merely supporting cast and comic relief. Never given the chance to develop beyond that.

2. Star Trek IS cheesy. It is also brilliant in places. A lot of that cheese is simply the fact that it was made from 1966 to 1968. Mission: Impossible has many similarities, again simply due to the time it was made, and the nature of television production at that time.

There is no point in slamming someone for being honest, yet I see a lot of respect, to the point where he’s looking to bring something to Chekov that we all know and love.

As for Chekov being on the Enterprise: Star Trek II anyone?

“But you, I never foget the face. Mister …. Chekov. I never thought I’d see your face again.”, Khan, Star Trek II – On Ceti Alpha V.

Clearly, by on-screen Canon, Chekov WAS on the Enterprise, DID encounter Khan to the point of recognition. It simply wasn’t shown.

Please people, be honest with yourselves about what you are fans of. I know I am.

116. Diabolik - January 29, 2008

#115…

So right… he was put on mainly to appeal to the teeny-boppers who loved the Beatles and the Monkees. Deep.

So maybe this kid will serve the same purpose for today’s whatever you call them!

117. Closettrekker - January 29, 2008

#115–Very well put. Not every TOS character was as involved as Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Checkov was often comic relief, but he was just as often only a background face. And you are 100% correct about his being on the Enterprise during the events of “Space Seed”. The fact that it was said in TWOK makes it canon. People tend to focus on the fact that Koenig did not join the cast until season two. That has no bearing on whether his character was on board the Enterprise, even if you accept the 79 TOS episodes as chronological (when you can watch them in any order you like without overlapping plot–except of course, the two-parters and the pilot/second pilot).

118. Jim - January 29, 2008

117 – re: watching in any order. It was part of style of much of episodic television of that time NOT to have continuing storylines. About the only exception that really comes to mind was the old “Lost in Space” and “Batman” episodes that ended with cliffhangers to grab the viewer for the next installment. But there were no continuing or extended storylines – I think it was so that a casual viewer could pick up a show at any time and not feel lost. This becomes very appaerent when one watches “Mission:Impossible” on DVD with the device of Briggs and then Phelps choosing the same durn team almost every week. I’m sure this is why modern viewers see some of these 1960’s storytelling conventions and write some of them off as cheesy.

119. miguel - January 29, 2008

Shat did not get to where he is today by taking himself seriously.

Come on people.

120. DEMODE - January 29, 2008

I think this kid is right on the money. I look forward to seeing his version of a young Chekov on the big screen.

121. Anthony Pascale - January 29, 2008

I added a poll on the W/V thing….’Wessels’ is winning big

122. Jorg Sacul - January 29, 2008

Roddenberry said years ago when describing the creation of the Scotty character, that in the future, accents as we know them today won’t exist. People will CHOOSE to enhance their speech, and so, as with all historical re-enactment, there will be some aspects of incorrectness or personalization.

It’s just like all newscasters in the US trying to sound like they come from Nebraska. I know Californians speak differently from New Englanders, but they have some kind of model to live up to and that the network execs seem to believe instills confidence in the viewers.

I’m still open minded on the whole concept of the movie, for as little of it as I know. I still think the font is wrong on the hull of the ship, though. :-(

123. doubleofive - January 29, 2008

When I first saw “To Serve All of My Days” I thought that New Voyages’ new Chekov was dubbed-over by Koeing it was so good. Then I saw “World Enough and Time” and it was still perfect.

Honestly, part of me would like the accent to be Chekov’s and part wants real Russian. But if we went the former way then everyone would be more of a parody of the original actors. Maybe the accents should be the actors’ own interpretations…

124. Devon - January 29, 2008

#97

“I still don’t understand what’s Chekov doing in this movie,”

He’s serving on the bridge of the Enterprise under the supervision of Capt. James T. Kirk. Didn’t realize an explanation was needed even in the original series ;)

125. OneBuckFilms - January 29, 2008

124 – Neither do we. Movie’s not been finished yet. He could be standing, sitting, speaking russian … almost anything.

126. Closettrekker - January 29, 2008

#97–More likely he will be depicted in another time period seperate from Kirk’s Academy years.

#125–He could be irritating Scotty by telling him that the matter/anti-matter inducers were “inwented in Russia”.

127. fan of prequels - January 29, 2008

Thank you to Katie G in post #49.

She mentions that Koenig’s parents were Jewish emigrants from Russia; and I believe I read that they were, more specifically, from the Ukraine.

My grandfather was a full-blooded Russian Jew. His parents were from the Ukraine…and they were of Jewish/Israeli/Hebrew ancestry.

From my limited understanding, Koenig’s character’s pronunciation of V’s as W’s would be appropriate to other Jewish people I have seen who do the same. BUT, don’t take my word for it.

ALSO, bravo to everyone else who pointed out that Yelchin did much to profess a healthy respect for TOS and the entire franchise in his actions and words.

Additionally, each generation gets berated by previous generations for the choice of dialog, music preference, degenerating values, etc. For Yelchin’s age, I’m surprised he says “like” as much as he does. I’m 38; that more typical of the movie dialog and fan mimicing from my era — a la “Valley Girl” and “Fast Times at Ridgemont High.” Two like, classics, dude.

By the way, to me he also resembles Kevin Bacon a bit in the pic at the top of the article.

128. Myrth - January 29, 2008

Wow it is truly sad to see so many bitter fanboys hating on an 18 year old kid who by all accounts seems to be a really good actor. He was not disrespecting trek or koenig he was having fun and telling the truth that TOS is cheesy, cause it is. I’m good with any actor that would say “damm im on the Enterprise” and mean it.

129. Oregon Trek Geek - January 29, 2008

44. DavidJ Ok, I meant 99.9 percent of the American audience. :)

About all this quibble nitpick about Chekov not being seen until season 2. I don’t really care. Let’s just say he was there all along, but didn’t get duty on the bridge until season 2. It works for me. Same thing for McCoy. Maybe he was assisting the old codger that was the doctor before him. These aren’t critical issues, folks.

And Anton is a very nice, cute guy who is going to be a great Chekov!

130. OneBuckFilms - January 29, 2008

129 – Or Doctor McCoy was on leave with the other doctor filling in.

“There are always … possibilities.”

131. Stanky McFibberich - January 29, 2008

re: 95 Bailey
“Well if that’s the case then Paramount should save itself 130 million dollars and instead make some other movie that people will actually pay to see.”

There you go.

132. Katie G. - January 29, 2008

Re: #58 El_Nastro

I think the episode you are referring to is called:

“By Any Other Name”
Production: 050
Season: 2 Episode: 22
Air Date: 02.23.1968
Stardate: 4657.5

Extra-galactic beings commandeer the Enterprise in an attempt to return home to the Andromeda Galaxy.

Synopsis:

When the U.S.S. Enterprise answers a distress call from a small planet, the landing party is captured by a group of agents from the Kelvan empire, located in the distant Andromeda galaxy. The Kelvans’ purpose is to find planets suitable for colonization. However, their own ship was destroyed and now they need the Enterprise to make the 300-year journey home.

To utilize the starship, the Kelvans — huge, tentacled creatures — take on human form. After several attempts at escape, Kirk accepts his fate and agrees to let the aliens take over his ship. The Kelvans use their technology to transform all but essential Enterprise personnel into small “cubes” which, unless broken or damaged, can be restored to human beings.

Recognizing that the Kelvans, in their new human bodies, are discovering human sensation and emotion, the remaining crew attempts to foster dissent amongst the aliens: Scotty succeeds in getting one of them drunk, McCoy injects an irritant into another, and Kirk makes romantic overtures to the Kelvan leader’s woman. (This is when Kirk slaps Rojan.) With the Kelvans thus distracted, Kirk and the crew are able to regain control of the ship.

Kirk points out to Rojan, the Kelvan leader, that the Kelvans are already becoming less like they were before by encountering the humans. In 300 years, their descendants will be so human-like that they won’t be able to live among their people on Kelva. Rojan sees the logic in his argument and sends a robot probe to Kelva, reporting what has happened. Pledging to restore the Enterprise crew, Rojan accepts Kirk’s offer that the Enterprise find the Kelvans a Class-M planet to colonize.

Cast:

William Shatner as James T. Kirk
Leonard Nimoy as Spock
DeForest Kelley as Leonard H. McCoy
James Doohan as Montgomery Scott
Nichelle Nichols as Uhura (note: no first name unlike in OGAM!)
Walter Koenig as Pavel Andreievich Chekov

Guest Cast:

Warren Stevens as Rojan (also in the flick “Forbidden Planet”)
Barbara Bouchet as Kelinda
Stewart Moss as Hanar (also in “The Naked Time” Season 1, Ep. 4)
Lizlie Dalton as Drea
Robert Fortier as Tomar
(Found at startrek.com).

kg

133. elmachocombo - January 29, 2008

My God people! How can you think Trek wasn’t cheesy? And to say the series was smartly conceived etc… doesn’t make up for the fact that the vast majority of TOS is so bad it’s good. Some of you sound less like fans and more like Scientologists describing the second coming of L.Ron Hubbard! I love Trek. I love Kung Fu movies. I love Lost in space. ALL 100% processed CHEESE products. One show that truly WAS smartly conceived and consistently un-cheesy was The Twilight Zone. Although, it had it’s share of the melted cheddar too. As for anton, he’s gonna blow Quinto outta the water. I’ll put money on that.

134. Katie G. - January 29, 2008

There were a lot of excellent things about Trek. Unfortunately, we had to put up with some bad writing along the way. (Interpretation: CHEESE.). Don’t complain!! If the bad ones we saw were the best of the ones they had to pick from at that time (with the deadline looming for that week’s episode), think how bad it could have been! They actually saved us from some REALLY bad ones by picking the lesser of the few evils. (I’d love to see the ones that got away…)

Enjoyed the series (still do) so much that I put up with it just for the good moments that come along here and there in the midst of the bad episodes.

Some of my favourite lines (in the good and bad ones):

“Guess who’s comeeng to deener?”

“Nuclear wessels…”

“Name!!” “Rank!!” “Chekov… Pavel…” “Rank? Admiral…”

“Absolutely I will not interfere!”

Can’t think of any more. Gotta go to bed. Enjoy your conversations!

kg

135. FlyingTigress - January 30, 2008

#134

“I am? May I go, now?”

“We are in enemy wessel, sir. I do not wish to be shot down on the way to our own funeral”

136. FlyingTigress - January 30, 2008

#121

I’d agree that the “W”-“V” substitution would be good — but only if a red-headed crewman named P.J. Fry could have a particular vocalization immediately afterwards… ;)

137. star trackie - January 30, 2008

#133 “My God people! How can you think Trek wasn’t cheesy?”

Guess it’s all in the interpretation of “cheesy”, isn’t it?

138. Katie G. - January 30, 2008

Re: #135. Flying Tigress

Absolutely! How could I not think of those? :-)

kg

139. Closettrekker - January 30, 2008

#138–“It was inwented in Russia.”

140. FlyingTigress - January 30, 2008

#139

“Ivan Burkov. The famous Russian Astronomer.”

141. Closettrekker - January 30, 2008

#140–“Meeester Scott!!!”

142. johnconner - January 30, 2008

Re: the subject of Star Trek and cheese:

I think the equation goes a little something like this:

1960s through most of the 70s – not cheesy (on the whole)

1980s: somewhat cheesy

1990s to present: cheesy

All compared to what was current at the time.

143. Closettrekker - January 30, 2008

#142–In Star Trek, all cheese is replicated anyway.

I think people see “cheesy” when they look back now at TOS, for example. You and I may not, because we (and I’m making an assumption) remember it as something fresh and relevant–and some of it still is. My kids think it is cheesy.
They like DS9, Voyager (to my irritation), and ENT. They are excited to see ST 0, but only because I have assured them that it will not look too much like the TV series. They laugh at some of the TOS sets, the phaser fire, the hairdos, etc. It is not that they are necessarily superficial, but like the rest of their generation, spoiled to today’s special effects and art capability.
Maybe that’s why I’m not so offended as some here when people call it “cheesy”. Perhaps I did not realize how “cheesy” it was until I watched a couple of my favorite TOS episodes with my 10 year old–“The Doomsday Machine”, and “Balance Of Terror”. I tried to explain that this was very “cutting edge” back then, but it did not matter. He laughed at the planet killer, the Romulan plasma weapon, the acting–you name it. He told me he liked Sisko, Janeway, Tuvok, Archer and Trip better than Captain Kirk, Spock (they love him in STIV, though), and Dr. McCoy. It actually hurt my feelings. Isn’t that ridiculous? They do like the original movies (2-4, 6) enough to want to see this one, though (I can’t get them to sit through TMP, and I tell them to pretend that there was no STV). I hope that this movie will connect them with the original cast, and possibly even help them to be more imaginative so as to enjoy the great stories in TOS with their old man.

144. Katie G. - January 30, 2008

Re: #143. Closet-trekker

“I think people see “cheesy” when they look back now at TOS, for example. ”

You’re right. What is cheesy are some of the “special effects” and some of the make-up compared to the state-of-the-art stuff we have today. (We’ve been spoiled, guys.) The fact that your son likes the later Trek shows that it was probably just the special effects of the day that threw him off.

You should show him some even older SciFi stuff. Then he’d see how “advanced” it was. Well, maybe.

It could have hurt your feelings because you think it’s great and his scorn of it sort of feels like criticism or because it is so special to you, you’d like him to share your love of it. It’s tough getting old, isn’t it? I remember my youth and how hip I thought I was. Now, in my fifties, I sometimes feel a little “square” as we used to say. Oh well. Time to grow up.

Have a great day.

kg

145. johnconner - January 30, 2008

I agree with both of you. I just realized that I didn’t clarify my post above. I was discussing TOS only when I devised my timeline, not the “whole” of Star Trek like TNG, DS9, etc.

146. The Vulcanista - January 30, 2008

#144 “Time to grow up.”

NEVER! Never never never never!!!! ;)

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

147. Ethan Shuster - January 30, 2008

My favorite Koenig quote? From Futurama:

– Bender: “Can people who hate Star Trek leave?”

– Koenig: “Good question.”

148. Katie G. - January 30, 2008

Re: #146. The Vulcanista

“NEVER! Never never never never!!!! ”

You’re hilarious! :-)

149. Katie G. - January 30, 2008

Re: #147. Ethan Shuster

No, silly. Your favourite “Pavel Chekov” quote.

kg

150. Closettrekker - January 31, 2008

#149—“Oh, Sir, eet vas Khan….”

“He put kreeetures…in our bodeees….to kuntrol our minds!”

“He thought he kuntrolled us, but he deed not.”

“The keptin…he vas strong…”

Or if you prefer,

“…I vill have to stun you.”

“I’m wery sorry, but…..”

151. Katie G. - January 31, 2008

Re: #150. Closet-trekker

Thanks — I really needed that. My father-in-law just passed away and the funeral is Saturday. Have wanted to put the Trek movies on but don’t have the time. They made me laugh (in a good way). Your quotes bring back the scenes to my mind and crack me up!

Much appreciated. Gotta go.

kg

152. will - May 12, 2009

Pavel Andreovich Checkov …. a V in every name, but can’t say V… like everyone said, there is no W sound in russian, so V should replace W instead of the other way……

but … if you watch movie, he replaces V for W, W for V and also pronounces V for V and W for W on occasion … PEREGRUZKA!

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