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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/30/enemy-within-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-1002486</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &quot;one action shot&quot; over the blank viewscreen lasted all of about 30 frames, 1 second. Otherwise it was totally unobscured. Almost as if they planned to matte something there in the original, but were faced with the same dilemma as trying to rotoscope a panning shot. 

Let me just point out, I work in the industry and most television routinely rotoscopes shots like this to fix production problems, particularly when they shoot a TV screen with someone walking past it with an image someone failed to secure the rights for – and yes I&#039;m talking a panning shot, where the camera shifts position as well, much much harder than this shot. Is it difficult, time consuming and expensive? Yes, but it is routine. Most recently, family portraits had to be inserted behind an actor walking down a staircase as the camera panned with them. No different.

In short, CBS digital was lazy not to do this because of a quick 1 second shot that would have been acceptable as imperfect because of all the foreground action, if it made up for the rest that has been bugging fans, probably since it first aired on NBC in 1966. 

And why not accept a simple blank screen which has been seen in other episodes on other view screens? Because everybody was looking forward at it, like they were looking at something! It doesn&#039;t make any sense!

As for all those other viewscreen shots? I would have put Federation logos on all the blank screens a la TNG. That&#039;s the kind of little touch which would have really helped the interior shots. But I digress.

CBS DIgital = lazy, under-budgeted or overworked. Probably all of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;one action shot&#8221; over the blank viewscreen lasted all of about 30 frames, 1 second. Otherwise it was totally unobscured. Almost as if they planned to matte something there in the original, but were faced with the same dilemma as trying to rotoscope a panning shot. </p>
<p>Let me just point out, I work in the industry and most television routinely rotoscopes shots like this to fix production problems, particularly when they shoot a TV screen with someone walking past it with an image someone failed to secure the rights for – and yes I&#8217;m talking a panning shot, where the camera shifts position as well, much much harder than this shot. Is it difficult, time consuming and expensive? Yes, but it is routine. Most recently, family portraits had to be inserted behind an actor walking down a staircase as the camera panned with them. No different.</p>
<p>In short, CBS digital was lazy not to do this because of a quick 1 second shot that would have been acceptable as imperfect because of all the foreground action, if it made up for the rest that has been bugging fans, probably since it first aired on NBC in 1966. </p>
<p>And why not accept a simple blank screen which has been seen in other episodes on other view screens? Because everybody was looking forward at it, like they were looking at something! It doesn&#8217;t make any sense!</p>
<p>As for all those other viewscreen shots? I would have put Federation logos on all the blank screens a la TNG. That&#8217;s the kind of little touch which would have really helped the interior shots. But I digress.</p>
<p>CBS DIgital = lazy, under-budgeted or overworked. Probably all of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day !! I will start by saying I have been a trekker since I was 8 . I am 42 now . I have read all the post listed above , and have decided most of you suffer from the worst form of expression the 90&#039;s and this decade have to offer . &quot;I&#039;m not happy with this !!&quot; &quot;This how it should be done&quot;
 
Not to offend anyone . I only want a moment of your time .

Do you have an opinion on how the Mona Lisa should have been painted ? Would you change it ?
 
Do you know what I find the most sadest behavior of all ?? In anyone ?? In myself ??  NO SENSE OF HISTORY !!
 
This was an excellent episode . It was filmed a certain way . Using the technology of the day . And mistakes occurred due to the pressure of time . Time for completion . And attitudes of the time . The people working on this series did the best they could . Give them some credit !! It was ground breaking in that era . And brought to light issues NORMALLY not discussed on television .
 
I have seen episodes aired recently with the new CG Enterprise and planets . I thought ... What the ---- !!! This is NOT what those people gave their time and effort for !! So some hacks with comps , could destroy the original work and STATEMENT of the technology of the time .
 
I want to see and remember Star Trek the way I did the first time I saw it . 8 years old , staying up late at some party with my parents . Seeing it and wondering if I&#039;d ever see it again .
 
History . It was filled with it . The issues of the day . The tech of the day . Actors/actresses of the past and the future . Mistakes and wonders for the imagination .
 
The &quot;expression&quot; problem I meantioned earlier . I dreamed of the day computers would be common place . 20 years later and I am not so pleased . I have found they have made cynics of us all . They have given us a quicker paced life . Made us impatient . And quick to judge that which we find imperfection with . We want everything perfect . And we want it now !!!
 
STERILIZE !! STERILIZE !! ... sound familiar ??
 
Quit knocking it . It&#039;s entertainment . Look at it as an historian . Accept and love it . Or hate it . (Shuttlecraft (not defined then), blankets , ship&#039;s phasers) . Lack of these items were need to move the story along .
 
This episode and others stands as a moment frozen it time . To be looked at , cherished , and understood for what it was and is . Like a child in infancy making mistakes .
 
As for Spock&#039;s comment . It&#039;s history again . Not appropriate for the character at the time or for the time now . But should be left to show how the series grew . And more important , how WE as a society have grow ... from that time in OUR ... history .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day !! I will start by saying I have been a trekker since I was 8 . I am 42 now . I have read all the post listed above , and have decided most of you suffer from the worst form of expression the 90&#8217;s and this decade have to offer . &#8220;I&#8217;m not happy with this !!&#8221; &#8220;This how it should be done&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to offend anyone . I only want a moment of your time .</p>
<p>Do you have an opinion on how the Mona Lisa should have been painted ? Would you change it ?</p>
<p>Do you know what I find the most sadest behavior of all ?? In anyone ?? In myself ??  NO SENSE OF HISTORY !!</p>
<p>This was an excellent episode . It was filmed a certain way . Using the technology of the day . And mistakes occurred due to the pressure of time . Time for completion . And attitudes of the time . The people working on this series did the best they could . Give them some credit !! It was ground breaking in that era . And brought to light issues NORMALLY not discussed on television .</p>
<p>I have seen episodes aired recently with the new CG Enterprise and planets . I thought &#8230; What the &#8212;- !!! This is NOT what those people gave their time and effort for !! So some hacks with comps , could destroy the original work and STATEMENT of the technology of the time .</p>
<p>I want to see and remember Star Trek the way I did the first time I saw it . 8 years old , staying up late at some party with my parents . Seeing it and wondering if I&#8217;d ever see it again .</p>
<p>History . It was filled with it . The issues of the day . The tech of the day . Actors/actresses of the past and the future . Mistakes and wonders for the imagination .</p>
<p>The &#8220;expression&#8221; problem I meantioned earlier . I dreamed of the day computers would be common place . 20 years later and I am not so pleased . I have found they have made cynics of us all . They have given us a quicker paced life . Made us impatient . And quick to judge that which we find imperfection with . We want everything perfect . And we want it now !!!</p>
<p>STERILIZE !! STERILIZE !! &#8230; sound familiar ??</p>
<p>Quit knocking it . It&#8217;s entertainment . Look at it as an historian . Accept and love it . Or hate it . (Shuttlecraft (not defined then), blankets , ship&#8217;s phasers) . Lack of these items were need to move the story along .</p>
<p>This episode and others stands as a moment frozen it time . To be looked at , cherished , and understood for what it was and is . Like a child in infancy making mistakes .</p>
<p>As for Spock&#8217;s comment . It&#8217;s history again . Not appropriate for the character at the time or for the time now . But should be left to show how the series grew . And more important , how WE as a society have grow &#8230; from that time in OUR &#8230; history .</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/30/enemy-within-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-437335</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inconsistency, that&#039;s the word.

I hope Paramount will take some more time to put out fully remastered episodes out on the Blu-ray edition of this set.  HD-DVD is dead, sorry. Warner/NewLine put the lid on  the format wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inconsistency, that&#8217;s the word.</p>
<p>I hope Paramount will take some more time to put out fully remastered episodes out on the Blu-ray edition of this set.  HD-DVD is dead, sorry. Warner/NewLine put the lid on  the format wars.</p>
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		<title>By: sean's clone</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/30/enemy-within-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-437118</link>
		<dc:creator>sean's clone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sean,

Why I have issues with the quality of the digital work CBSD has churned out over the last year or so, like you, I really have more of a problem with the inconsistent way they have approached this re-master effort.

Ultimately, I think the remasters will always be viewed as a so - so effort. Hopefully, one day (and a lot of this depends on the success of the new Trek Movie) TOS will get the remaster effort it deserves - with top notch producers and artists honoring the original show and the eddicated fans that have made it such a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean,</p>
<p>Why I have issues with the quality of the digital work CBSD has churned out over the last year or so, like you, I really have more of a problem with the inconsistent way they have approached this re-master effort.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think the remasters will always be viewed as a so &#8211; so effort. Hopefully, one day (and a lot of this depends on the success of the new Trek Movie) TOS will get the remaster effort it deserves &#8211; with top notch producers and artists honoring the original show and the eddicated fans that have made it such a success.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/30/enemy-within-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-435478</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking back to the DDM, I was not that excited by the effects as I was just really into the story.  If i had to pick the BEST episode of TOS it would be the DDM.

What makes me so upset is that this project could have been SOOO much more than it fizzled out to be.  Even if CBS-D used their talent, and I use that word VERY lightly,  and fixed everything that needed to be addressed then I would live with it.  But there are so many shots that are unchanged that this looks like the Star Wars Special Editions.  By that I mean there&#039;s CG where it doesn&#039;t need to be, ie Gorn blink, and it is juxtaposed with old effects that really could have used a touch up.  Mixed bag is the perfect way to describe it. 

CBS/Paramount are the most cheap companies out there. They wanted to rush this out in time for the 40th anniversary so they hired a bunch of talking heads to lead the project and went skimpy on the animators that really can&#039;t do the level of work that EdenFX can, I&#039;m sorry but it&#039;s true. Money buys talent and These guys are in sore need of it, but Okuda and others covered it up by saying they were sticking with the spirit of the show and not going far from it. BS! What Eden Did was a faithful recreation of the original work and they got crapped on for it.  What CBS is doing is on par with jimmy Neutron, nothing more.  Credit to the person who first made the JN reference. And on top of that they want me to pay 179.99 for it, SORRY NOT HAPPENING.

I laughed to myself at the article put out by Autodesk that bragged about the software CBS-D&#039;s animators were using.  While the software is excellent, the people bring the creativity to it.  Click on the link below to see the Starship Voyager model made by a REAL ARTIST that used FREE software called Blender! Sarod is the creator. When VOY-R is made I&#039;m sure the model they use will look like a micro machine but hey...

http://stblender.iindigo3d.com/meshes_startrek.html

Hope this can be one of my last rants but I doubt it. 

Take care,
Sean

When  &quot;In A Mirror Darkly&quot;  is released in HD it will blow these remastered eps right out of the stars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking back to the DDM, I was not that excited by the effects as I was just really into the story.  If i had to pick the BEST episode of TOS it would be the DDM.</p>
<p>What makes me so upset is that this project could have been SOOO much more than it fizzled out to be.  Even if CBS-D used their talent, and I use that word VERY lightly,  and fixed everything that needed to be addressed then I would live with it.  But there are so many shots that are unchanged that this looks like the Star Wars Special Editions.  By that I mean there&#8217;s CG where it doesn&#8217;t need to be, ie Gorn blink, and it is juxtaposed with old effects that really could have used a touch up.  Mixed bag is the perfect way to describe it. </p>
<p>CBS/Paramount are the most cheap companies out there. They wanted to rush this out in time for the 40th anniversary so they hired a bunch of talking heads to lead the project and went skimpy on the animators that really can&#8217;t do the level of work that EdenFX can, I&#8217;m sorry but it&#8217;s true. Money buys talent and These guys are in sore need of it, but Okuda and others covered it up by saying they were sticking with the spirit of the show and not going far from it. BS! What Eden Did was a faithful recreation of the original work and they got crapped on for it.  What CBS is doing is on par with jimmy Neutron, nothing more.  Credit to the person who first made the JN reference. And on top of that they want me to pay 179.99 for it, SORRY NOT HAPPENING.</p>
<p>I laughed to myself at the article put out by Autodesk that bragged about the software CBS-D&#8217;s animators were using.  While the software is excellent, the people bring the creativity to it.  Click on the link below to see the Starship Voyager model made by a REAL ARTIST that used FREE software called Blender! Sarod is the creator. When VOY-R is made I&#8217;m sure the model they use will look like a micro machine but hey&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://stblender.iindigo3d.com/meshes_startrek.html" rel="nofollow">http://stblender.iindigo3d.com/meshes_startrek.html</a></p>
<p>Hope this can be one of my last rants but I doubt it. </p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Sean</p>
<p>When  &#8220;In A Mirror Darkly&#8221;  is released in HD it will blow these remastered eps right out of the stars!</p>
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		<title>By: Balock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are we even going to see anything for the Changling? I guess an advance on Utlimate Computer would be asking for too much (unlike last year)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are we even going to see anything for the Changling? I guess an advance on Utlimate Computer would be asking for too much (unlike last year)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end, Kirk said two things that were interesting...

&quot;I saw a side of myself I never want to see again&quot;, and, &quot;The imposter is back where he belongs.&quot;

Was this the Wimpy Kirk talking about the Savage Kirk, or the Savage Kirk talking about the Wimpy Kirk??

I have no extra comment about the obvious &quot;why didn&#039;t they use a shuttlecraft&quot; thing. Maybe there was no place to land one down there?

But when they thought the transporter was fixed, why not beam some test objects down, see if they duplicate? If they don&#039;t, great, get Sulu and those guys back up to the ship now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end, Kirk said two things that were interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a side of myself I never want to see again&#8221;, and, &#8220;The imposter is back where he belongs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was this the Wimpy Kirk talking about the Savage Kirk, or the Savage Kirk talking about the Wimpy Kirk??</p>
<p>I have no extra comment about the obvious &#8220;why didn&#8217;t they use a shuttlecraft&#8221; thing. Maybe there was no place to land one down there?</p>
<p>But when they thought the transporter was fixed, why not beam some test objects down, see if they duplicate? If they don&#8217;t, great, get Sulu and those guys back up to the ship now!</p>
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		<title>By: Balock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh, this started out with a lot of promise, but sure feels like it has fizzled lately. Don&#039;t know whether its the CGI being a step down from the models, or the fact that even this site doesn&#039;t seem to be ahead of the new releases anymore with pics/video&#039;s or updating remastered content...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh, this started out with a lot of promise, but sure feels like it has fizzled lately. Don&#8217;t know whether its the CGI being a step down from the models, or the fact that even this site doesn&#8217;t seem to be ahead of the new releases anymore with pics/video&#8217;s or updating remastered content&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: seangh</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/30/enemy-within-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-431456</link>
		<dc:creator>seangh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean and Sean - nice to see my fellow correct spelling Seans around again.

Sean4K  - I have not been a very big fan of the remasters either, especially lately. Maybe its because of the steady stream of tid-bits coming out about the new film, but most likely because the effort has really just been so lackluster. Still looking forward to the &quot;Enterprise Incident &quot; and &quot;The Ultimate Computer&quot;, although, like Sean&#039;s Clone, my hopes are not high for either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean and Sean &#8211; nice to see my fellow correct spelling Seans around again.</p>
<p>Sean4K  &#8211; I have not been a very big fan of the remasters either, especially lately. Maybe its because of the steady stream of tid-bits coming out about the new film, but most likely because the effort has really just been so lackluster. Still looking forward to the &#8220;Enterprise Incident &#8221; and &#8220;The Ultimate Computer&#8221;, although, like Sean&#8217;s Clone, my hopes are not high for either.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, hi there.  Long time no see.

I hope that TOS-R will just end and the new movie will take over completely.  As you know I&#039;ve not been a big fan of this endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, hi there.  Long time no see.</p>
<p>I hope that TOS-R will just end and the new movie will take over completely.  As you know I&#8217;ve not been a big fan of this endeavor.</p>
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