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	<title>Comments on: TOS-R Producers Talk &#8220;Ultimate Computer&#8221; and Share New Images</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windsor Bear, I agree with your sentiment in comment 197.  The version I saw cut one of the most important scenes from the end, when Scotty tells Kirk he has power for shields but not communications and Kirk orders that the shields be left down.  Kirk&#039;s &quot;I gambled on Bob Wesley&#039;s compassion&quot; soliloquy at the end -- WHICH IS THE FREAKING POINT OF THE EPISODE -- doesn&#039;t make sense without this scene.  

Also, in the original, after Wesley calls off the attack, we see the Lexington do a close fly-by of the Enterprise (from either the Lexington&#039;s on the Enterprise&#039;s main viewscreen; I can&#039;t remember which).  Instead, in the version I saw, we only got a rather static shot of the &quot;dead&quot; Enterprise, that looked suspiciously like the view of the Defiant we saw in the original Tholian Web, after the attack was called off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windsor Bear, I agree with your sentiment in comment 197.  The version I saw cut one of the most important scenes from the end, when Scotty tells Kirk he has power for shields but not communications and Kirk orders that the shields be left down.  Kirk&#8217;s &#8220;I gambled on Bob Wesley&#8217;s compassion&#8221; soliloquy at the end &#8212; WHICH IS THE FREAKING POINT OF THE EPISODE &#8212; doesn&#8217;t make sense without this scene.  </p>
<p>Also, in the original, after Wesley calls off the attack, we see the Lexington do a close fly-by of the Enterprise (from either the Lexington&#8217;s on the Enterprise&#8217;s main viewscreen; I can&#8217;t remember which).  Instead, in the version I saw, we only got a rather static shot of the &#8220;dead&#8221; Enterprise, that looked suspiciously like the view of the Defiant we saw in the original Tholian Web, after the attack was called off.</p>
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		<title>By: Space Cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though now that they drew on the TAS episodes for ships....
doesn&#039;t that validate TAS as &#039;canon&#039; now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though now that they drew on the TAS episodes for ships&#8230;.<br />
doesn&#8217;t that validate TAS as &#8216;canon&#8217; now?</p>
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		<title>By: Space Cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>172. alex said:

Hi, there! Mike and I haven’t done much in a while on the tech side. My current project is an encyclopedia for the fictional ‘verse of the USS Avenger, sort of the ST Encyclopedia for our fanfic. And since we have twenty years of said fanfic, there’s a lot with which to fill such a document!

I&#039;d be looking forward to it.

196....I agree, glad someone else remembers the full episodes....
I thought I was alone in that(plus blowing my money in the &#039;80s
&amp; early &#039;90s on the 12 inch LDs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>172. alex said:</p>
<p>Hi, there! Mike and I haven’t done much in a while on the tech side. My current project is an encyclopedia for the fictional ‘verse of the USS Avenger, sort of the ST Encyclopedia for our fanfic. And since we have twenty years of said fanfic, there’s a lot with which to fill such a document!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be looking forward to it.</p>
<p>196&#8230;.I agree, glad someone else remembers the full episodes&#8230;.<br />
I thought I was alone in that(plus blowing my money in the &#8217;80s<br />
&amp; early &#8217;90s on the 12 inch LDs).</p>
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		<title>By: JNG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JNG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #70

&quot;Remember that should a phaser weapon actually be invented, you wouldn’t be able to see the “beam”. All you’d see is the impact zone.&quot;

How can you know this to be true when the principle by which phasers would work also has yet to be discovered?

On the other hand, if we accept the suggestion made in the TNG Technical Manual, phaser beams seem to consist of a plasma; if this is true, they ought to be visible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #70</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember that should a phaser weapon actually be invented, you wouldn’t be able to see the “beam”. All you’d see is the impact zone.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can you know this to be true when the principle by which phasers would work also has yet to be discovered?</p>
<p>On the other hand, if we accept the suggestion made in the TNG Technical Manual, phaser beams seem to consist of a plasma; if this is true, they ought to be visible.</p>
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		<title>By: OR Coast Trekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>OR Coast Trekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>182 - Thanks for the repost to the like for EdenFX. I really REALLY wish that CBS had decided to contract the fx work out... but, as we must remember, fx work was never part of the original intent.

Perhpas one day, we&#039;ll get a project where the fx ARE the focus... perhaps, one day...


And just remember, all this: 

TREKMOVIE.COM: In the scenes showing the four ships, did you consider using different ship types instead of just using Constitution-class ships?
DAVE: We sure did. This was the only time in the entire series that we saw anything like fleet maneuvers, and our first thought was to use this episode to show that there’s more to Starfleet than just the Enterprise. 
DENISE: We talked about this at length. Mike and Dave were excited about coming up with new ships, but eventually we all decided that it was best to honor the expectations of fans who had grown up seeing four Constitution-class ships.
MIKE: One of the ideas we considered was to have a Reliant-type configuration for a couple of the guest ships. The problem with a smaller ship is that you don’t want the sense that the Enterprise is more powerful, because that would hurt the drama of the story. Ultimately, keeping all four ships the same emphasizes that the only variable is that the Enterprise is piloted by the M5 computer.
DENISE: We did make some really, really subtle changes in the other ships. At least, they were really subtle to me. I’m sure some fans will pick up on them...

means, &quot;it would have taken more time and money to design another ship.&quot;

And Mike has the wrong idea about the drama of the story: the drama is the mutual danger in that the Enterprise is out of control and going after her friends, and that other folks know something is wrong, and have to stop the Enterprise, putting it in danger. None of us want to see the Enterprise going after other ships. So I can&#039;t but the &quot;drama&quot; reason as a viable excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>182 &#8211; Thanks for the repost to the like for EdenFX. I really REALLY wish that CBS had decided to contract the fx work out&#8230; but, as we must remember, fx work was never part of the original intent.</p>
<p>Perhpas one day, we&#8217;ll get a project where the fx ARE the focus&#8230; perhaps, one day&#8230;</p>
<p>And just remember, all this: </p>
<p>TREKMOVIE.COM: In the scenes showing the four ships, did you consider using different ship types instead of just using Constitution-class ships?<br />
DAVE: We sure did. This was the only time in the entire series that we saw anything like fleet maneuvers, and our first thought was to use this episode to show that there’s more to Starfleet than just the Enterprise.<br />
DENISE: We talked about this at length. Mike and Dave were excited about coming up with new ships, but eventually we all decided that it was best to honor the expectations of fans who had grown up seeing four Constitution-class ships.<br />
MIKE: One of the ideas we considered was to have a Reliant-type configuration for a couple of the guest ships. The problem with a smaller ship is that you don’t want the sense that the Enterprise is more powerful, because that would hurt the drama of the story. Ultimately, keeping all four ships the same emphasizes that the only variable is that the Enterprise is piloted by the M5 computer.<br />
DENISE: We did make some really, really subtle changes in the other ships. At least, they were really subtle to me. I’m sure some fans will pick up on them&#8230;</p>
<p>means, &#8220;it would have taken more time and money to design another ship.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Mike has the wrong idea about the drama of the story: the drama is the mutual danger in that the Enterprise is out of control and going after her friends, and that other folks know something is wrong, and have to stop the Enterprise, putting it in danger. None of us want to see the Enterprise going after other ships. So I can&#8217;t but the &#8220;drama&#8221; reason as a viable excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Coatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Coatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToLrAz2TV9A

vfx reel for the ultimate computer</description>
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<p>vfx reel for the ultimate computer</p>
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		<title>By: Xindi1985</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xindi1985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any damage on the Excalibur (hull-breaches like the Constellation)?</description>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#196: agreed.
All of the remastered episodes have been butchered for the syndication cuts, but this one seemed particularly clumsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#196: agreed.<br />
All of the remastered episodes have been butchered for the syndication cuts, but this one seemed particularly clumsy.</p>
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		<title>By: Xindi1985</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xindi1985</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How looks the &quot;dead&quot; Excalibur?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How looks the &#8220;dead&#8221; Excalibur?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk's Girdle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk's Girdle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Enterprise even has a nice shade of blue in that Charlie X pic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Enterprise even has a nice shade of blue in that Charlie X pic.</p>
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