Even More Yelchin: Now Talking Plot and Enterprise Designs February 22, 2008
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Cast , trackback
Boy Anton Yelchin is certainly the chatty Cathy this week. While the new Chekov is promoting his film Charlie Bartlett (opening tonight), he keeps dropping more and more hints about the new Star Trek. The latest is from The Chicago Sun Times where the young actor talks about his first day on Enterprise, a bit about the plot and the design of the new Enteprise. check it out below. [minor spoilers]
Yelchin’s first day:
The first day I walked onto that bridge, I thought, ‘It’s the freakin’ Enterprise!’ It was really an epic feeling. I put on my Star Trek gear and thought, ‘Damn, it’s Star Trek!’
On the Plot
It is an origin story. It’s really about how everyone’s favorite characters … got to the Enterprise. It’s about how it all comes together. It’s not just them arriving and saying, ‘Let’s just kick it on the Enterprise.’ It’s really an epic story full of different action and drama.
On the new Enterprise:
The new Enterprise ship isn’t straight out of the ’60s.’ But they did take some ’60s elements and keep them. The whole project is really a balance between the old series and the new film.
More at the Chicago Sun Times.
Yelchin, Anton Yelchin…on a secret mission
Will all recent the divulging from Yelchin, the following quote from his interview with Star Trek Magazine (done before shooting started) seems relevant:
My script has my name on every page. It’s coded, you know? everyone’s script has that. I have never worked on anything like that, either. I have been on sets where people tried to keep things secret and I’ve been like, “What the hell are you keeping things secret for? We’re lucky if people get to see this movie.” But it’s really interesting. Even without it, you understand the incredible scope of this thing, but it adds a certain level of fun to it. I feel like I’m on a secret mission or something, before I actually get to the set. Part of it is like a little bit of James Bond.
Read the rest of that interview in the latest issue of Star Trek Magazine on newsstands now.
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Talkative lately, isn’t he?
That he is.
No doubt we will hear more from more members of the cast as may 09 approaches
Well, in typical fashion with this movie, he is talking alot but not saying much!
“Let’s kick it on the Enterprise” is the take away line here.
I can’t believe he said that! My hopes are ruined!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!
- Warp 3 isn’t it…?
He seems like a nice enough young man, ha ha. Can’t wait to see his interpretation of Chekov.
Well, there we have it. The ship will not fit in with canon design. ST will be moer along the lines of a Planet of the Apes remaquel. Now life can move on.
# 8
Didn’t the trailer kinda give away that it isn’t an exact canon match?
He’s only 19- Sheesh. He’s been dropping hints for the past 3 days: Blue red and gold uniforms, and ’60s elements in the ship. Klingons, Romulans, and next the combination to Kirk’s safe. Fun stuff!
I know. like I said. Life can now move on and the people that still moan about Trek XI’s looks will have to move on too.
This was aimed at the people that thought this would fit into trek history perfectly. If you took that attitude into this film then you were going to be soreley disapointed.
Chekhov was created to improve ratings by putting a moptop youngster on the Enterprise.
Yelchin fulfills a similar role circa 2009, but with a starring role under his belt to boot (and alongside Iron Man). JJ is seeding this film with future talent so that sequels will be required viewing in the next few years.
Sir JJ™ and The OrcSter® had better get a muzzle on this kid el pronto. Nothing says KEEP YOUR EFFING MOUTH SHUT faster than some lawyers. Sure, he’s a young kid. He can be allowed some missteps. Such is the nature of youth. However. and this is a big however.
The little Alpha Pup™ has divulged way way way too much information at this point. With the movie being pushed back 6 months, it was now too soon to have even put the teaser trailer out there. Understandably, they want to control the information that is being released as well as do that at a pace which builds momentum and keeps interest. What’s this kid doin???
Serve this guy some non-discloure papers. That will constipate his diaharrea of the mouth. And it’s not easy for me to say all this - I want info as badly - hey I want the frickin movie as badly - as anyone else.
May 2008 seems miles away, let alone 2000 Ott Niner. They won’t have this momentum for the sequel SO FOR NOW, you ride it and you milk it for all it’s worth. You heard it from h69 first. Then you heard it from my women. But it’s true no matter what the source.
all my best,
=h=
I think he has babbled bit too much about the movie.
#11… true. But if they set themselves up for such a disappointment by expecting a 2009 film to exactly match a 60’s TV show, they should expect to be let down.
He’s yappin’ like a 5 year old……..hey, good nickname for the kid…..
BABBLE-ON 5
I’m not seeing anything in his comments that’s surprising. Why don’t we want him to talk?
JJ: “I thought I told all of you not to reveal any secrets. Yelchin…I know you…you started it, didn’t you?”
Yelchin: “Oh Sir, eet vas Khan….he pute kreetures…een our bodees…to kuntrol our minds…made us say lies….do things…”
JJ: “Mr. Yelchin, your agonizer, please…”
Yelchin: “Aieeeeeeeeeeh!!!!!”
uh,oh… arrrr… young Anton’s gunna get fired for yakkin so much… or be sued whatever he makes off o’ “Charlie Bartlett”…
ha, just funnin’…
It’s fitting to have the young bloke go blabbing about Trek and building it up to potential young moviegoers…
Imagine a bunch of kiddies at the show…
I best bring me acne cream with me to the cinema when I see it… in case of an outbreak…
Might get arrested for unintentionally hittin’ on some teenie…
I could ask those sittin’ ’round me what the latest colorful metaphor be…
arrrrr…
#18 - lol
He hasn’t revealed anything new that hasn’t already been disclosed. I like him talking it up, it’s good early PR for the movie.
#20–Just like Yelchin, I’m here all week!
“I best bring me acne cream with me to the cinema when I see it… in case of an outbreak…” British Naval Dude
I think this is the most promising aspect of the Future as foretold by Star Trek, warp speed, transporters, phasers, and certainly no acne. Perhaps the elimination of acne more than anything can allow one to go boldly where no one has never gone before.
Seriously, the guy has said literally nothing of substance so I am not sure why everyone is so concerned with his disclosures.
Re: #1. ety3, #13. hitch1969©, #14. Captain Hackett
Yeah, I’m thinking he’d better cool it a bit. I remember what it was like to be his age and then add being “famous” but he really needs to calm down and be careful before he gets into trouble. On the last thread I think it was Vulcanista who wanted to hear more from Chris Pine (Kirk). Chris is probably sitting back watching this kid go. Smart man.
I’m excited for Yelchin and yes, a little jealous, but I do think he needs to take a deep breath and think before he speaks.
I was wondering if anyone was going to say “let’s kick this pig”. I guess saying “let’s just kick it…” is close enough.
Re: #15. Diabolik
I wondered about that before I saw “Enterprise” but thought it turned out okay. Hopefully people will realize it’s what we would have done with the script if it just came out NOW as opposed to the 60’s. I’m just going to enjoy this.
kg
excuse me… but what does God need with Children, running a Star Trek movie?
:-(
or to quote from Joel..
…” 113. Joel Roller - February 22, 2008
Hell is REPETITION, like an old episode of Star Trek seen for the millionth time.
The “good” in others that you think you see is an illusion.
Little fables folks tell themselves so they can get through their days without screaming too much.
Just remember - Born in lust, turn to dust… people like you will see me in hell, over and over again!
;-) “
Re: #16. Harry
“BABBLE-ON 5″ ???????
lol lol lol lol !
One of your better ones, Harry!
kg
NOT CANNON!!!!!
The design MUST remain EXACTLY as the 60’s version and genes original vision or I will personally write 1000,0000 letters of complaint and my local star trek group will engage in a mind meld to affect the profits of this movie!
Re: #18. Closet-Trekker
“…JJ: “Mr. Yelchin, your agonizer, please…”
Yelchin: “Aieeeeeeeeeeh!!!!!” ”
Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are on a roll!
kg
I want to see the Enterpriseeeeeeeeeeee Dx
It would appear that Chekov likes to shoot his mouth off!
Diabolik,
I guess I’m using a double edged sword here. For the most part, Trek has a linear design flow. it is shown throughout the TV shows and movies. I sympathize with both sides of the debate. I lovethe 60s look and Star TRek Enterprise’s In A Mirror Darkly used TOS elements as is. they puled it off flawlessly. on the negative side, it is obvious that the film is not just a prequel and the new designs overlap what had been established in rock solid canon. THAT is what I’m not happy about. JJ could have made this a nice prequel and not touch the TOS 5-year mission error, but he had to put his new designs where the older ones belonged. He’s going post TNG-Fine, Pre TOS Fine, Pre-Pike Fine. JJ’s look contradicting Gene’s look NOT FINE. Keep the film neat and concise where it belongs and offer some kind of explanation for the design changes. I looks as though we’re getting none of that. The new ship looks like is could eat a Borg Cube for dinner and that’s not good.
However, for Trek to live again it needs new blood. JJ’s cast are exactly what the franchise needs. The hype surrounding the movie is the most I’ve seen for any Trek film ever. Returning Spock into his role as Leonard Nimoy :) is the aspect of this move I am loking forward to the most. Period.
Yelchin confirms it, the Enterprise has been de-canonized! This is Star Trek in name only. What’s next, Vulcans have 2 hearts & can regenerate?
I am so split on this move it’s not funny.
Well! Isn’t he quite the Russkie chatterbox? LOL!!!!
I guess this ties it - if they don’t want any more of the movie given away, they’ll have to move the release back to Christmas 2008 to give Yelchin less time to say any more…
(Oh, well, I had to try…)
But, I’m sure if he steps too far into saying something that gives away the movie, he’ll be asked to not say any more.
18- Now that was funny!!!
Have no fear. Everything he’s saying is allowed publicity. Nothing is leaked without JJ turning the tap.
31 - Lets see what JJs Enterprise actually looks like before making rash judgements please.
Also, if you wnat design continuity, look at the difference between the Enterprise in TOS and Star Trek: TMP.
An almost COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAKE on the SAME BASIC IDEA !!!
Of course, the on-screen explanation is a refit, but in truth, the style and aesthetic change is more than a refit can comfortably explain, when it really comes down to it.
Gossip — eet vuss a Russian inwention!
OK all for getting info on the movie, but I just hope we don’t already know half of it by the time it comes out. Good to hear that the other characters do get attention though!
OMG!!!
It’s not canon!!
Let’s all jump off the cliff NOW!!
Maybe Sir JJ™ should call Timberlake and have him take the kid down to Palm Springs for a few days to chill out?
Wonder what next week will bring? His Verizon wireless photoalbum?
=h=
I wish we would finally hear more out of Chris Pine. He’s the one person we should be hearing, and yet he’s arguably the most tight-lipped.
On the subject of Yelchin, I’ve been reading reviews of his new movie, Charlie Bartlett. None of the reviewers hated it, but none of them seemed to actually like the movie. The A.V. Club says that Charlie Bartlett was better back when it was called Rushmore.
#41:
It’s not funny, this is a serious upheaval in the ST universe. Canon is the thread that holds ST together. Pull the stitching out, anarchy thrives and Trek is no more.
YES CANON MUST BE PRESERVED. NOT ONLY WILL TREK UNRAVEL BUT OUR LIVES WILL TOO!!! What am I gonna do with my vintage figures I kept “in box” that I thought would be worth 10,000 each when the new movie comes out, they will be worthless and my mom will be pissed!
He has yet to really say anything we did not already know. Well, maybe he did break the story about the Klingons, but that could be a Kobyashi Maru thing, or as someone else pointed out—he could have mixed up his alien villains. Did anyone really think that we could have a TOS-era Star Trek movie without the Klingons making some kind of appearance anyway? I wonder if he realizes what his little “away team slip-up” did to set this site on fire. Other than starting a debate over that, the biggest thing he has revealed by himself is that Pavel will still confuse his “V’s” and “W’s”! I doubt Anton will be put into the agonizer booth over any of this.
Shatner: “Let me get this straight. There are two Spocks??? Are you sure I’m not in it?”
Yelchin: “Actually, there are three. I’m wery sorry keptin, but…JJ’s orders are confirmed… You know, I remember Peter The Great once had a problem like this. He…”
Shatner: “Nevermind. Just get me on Oprah!”
#44
A little extreme, I feel. I don’t think they’re “pulling the stitching out”, just updating trek for a new film
Either way, it’s this or trek really is no more (apart from New Voyages / Phase II)
#8, #9, #27, #32 (and all who worry over if the Big E will look a lot like TOS version—-or not):
I have to think that, now with the WGA strike overwith, JJ Roberto and Alex can get back to making those many tweaks they said they missed (during the “Pencils Down!” strike). To that, I would think that if this story has any damage inflicted to the Big E so soon in its mission(s) of exploration, a subsequent patch-up of such damage might include more upgrades, slightly different lettering of the ship name across the hull, and a look just a little closer to TOS era image—if A LOT MORE REALISTIC than we’ve ever seen it (ILM is doing the effects, and that company is FULL of “Star Trek” fans). There can be ALL MANNER OF REASONS for that kind of make-over to occur in the storyline where it makes sense (and isn’t done just to do it); it only takes a little imagination. And NO “Pencils Down!” writer’s strike going on to make it so. (—pun intended.)
Besides: what if they DO show what all the detail in the vessel is there for? And those uniforms……… several websites recently showed a new type of garment that is self-heating, which would make those blue and gold pajama-like shirts the crew wears QUITE COMFORTABLE on the colder planets, presuming the temperatures don’t drop beyond a certain level, that is. (Think: “THE ENEMY WITHIN”)
Anton’s FUN with the character of Pavel Chekov will perhaps steal the show in scenes he’s in, if Roberto and Alex have anything to do with how the scenes are written. Chekov screaming again? “Wessels” …” etc. Walter K. will have the greatest fun seeing the movie, which also brings to mind a potential AMAZING premier performance: wouldn’t it be AWESOME to have the entire audience of the first screening be attended by the Cast and Crew of ALL FIVE of the “Star Trek” TV shows, all 10 previous films, this film, Majel and Rod, the children of the late Dezi Arnez & Lucille Ball (whos’ studio, DESILU, first produced ‘Trek in the 1960s), the most wel-known celebrity Trek fans (both in the entertainment industry AND professionals in various fields who were inspired to get there by STAR TREK from the very beginning)—and their families? They might need a BIG auditorium for that, though…..
ANTON: From one actor to another, Welcome aboard this amazing thing called STAR TREK! And warp speed toward ST-12 and ST-13………
Now, if we can only find out more about show that “Fleet Captain” (or as Pavel might say, “….Keptin”) is, we’ll have far more to chew on between now and May 2009. Is it Robert April? Is it Jonathan Archer? Is it Garth of Izar? Is it……. someone else? (—–or is that revealing too much of the plot to reveal so soon? Hmmmm……)
BTW, ROBERTO: may I urge you guys (Alex/J.J./Paramount) to see that the trailers show as much of the ISSUE that this story is about without revealing the plot, so that the “TREK MESSAGE” you are trying to convey actually inspires theater-goers to want to see this film more than anything? In other words, the delay in release date makes one wonder if the moral Star Trek-style message may be too important to wait for may 2009—but can be at least partially touched on in the advertisement trailers we will see later this year (and/or early in 2009)?
I have made no rash judgements. I am simply pooling together all i have heard and read thus far on this site. I am on the fence and calmly explaining my concern.
“”An almost COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAKE on the SAME BASIC IDEA !!!”"
TOS to TMP is - —> +, where TMP tech >TOS
There is no sign there will be an exlpanation, no matter how simple it might be, and that is sad
“It’s not funny, this is a serious upheaval in the ST universe. Canon is the thread that holds ST together. Pull the stitching out, anarchy thrives and Trek is no more.”
So true.
I’m with Yelchin on being somewhat baffled (but still amused and entertained) by the secrecy fetish ;)
#44: LOL. Priceless :)
#44
And then we’ll end up spending Eternity playing D&D with Al Gore, Nichelle Nichols, Phillip Fry, Dr. Hawking and Gary Gygax.
NOOOOOOO-O-O-O-O-O!
Okay he he dropped a few hints a specific or two but nothing really earth shattering here . In terms of story yeah its going to be an origin story which is kind of what I expected anyways, to me this does not really constitute a spoiler.
#47: “just updating trek for a new film”
How can you update what once was & not destroy what is? Haven’t we learned anything from the Guardian of Forever?
“Either way, it’s this or trek really is no more (apart from New Voyages / Phase II)”
I’ll take James Crawley’s canon-pure ST anytime. IMO, JJ’s vision seems less than dyno-o-mite.
Closettrekker- You are pulling out the stops today! LOL!! You and Harry need to get up an act to perform together at all the ST conventions - think of all the latinum you’d make, and all the green-skinned, scantily -clad women who would throw themselves at you!
#44Canon serves the show not the other way around, and lets face it cannon is not perfect, maybe a little boos to cannon, or switching thread may be better
UUUUHHHHHHH…
…hasn’t it already been established from the TRAILER that the new Enterprise is going to be slightly modified from the 1960’s version? We all pretty much knew this going in. Anyone still complaining about it is spitting against the wind.
I hate STV. Hate it. I have seen it at least 30 times. It skewers canon. STXI will blow it away..
I mean, what if Sulu’s sword battle last week is with a Kaylar on Rigel VII? Any issues there? Kobayashi Maru? I think this film will adhere closer to canon than any of the others. I think the writers may have the license to be anally retentively obsessed with it. We all get a massive wink, and the world gets a great flick.
This is great to hear cast members talking. As other cast members have releases coming out, similar to Yelchin’s Charlie Bartlett, I’m sure we’ll be hearing much more about the movie. It’s just nice to hear continued positive responses to the movie and if this continues from the cast members, it will make the next 14.5 months pass by much faster.
56:
Of course people knew that.
We are debating the “slight” modifications and their place in the whole of Trek technological lineage.
#44–”It’s not funny, this is a serious upheaval in the ST universe. Canon is the thread that holds ST together. Pull the stitching out, anarchy thrives and Trek is no more.”
You are making yourself miserable over this. Try to use your imagination and think of the TOS NCC-1701 as having really looked like this all along. Gene’s whole reasoning for reinventing the Big E for TMP was that his creativity and vision of a 23rd Century starship was no longer constrained by 1960’s technology and a limited budget, along with the fact that the old look wouldn’t stand up on the big screen. It’s fine to depict the old look Enterprise like it looks on a remastered TOS episode for something like DS9, “Trials And Tribulations” or ENT, “In A Mirror, Darkly” on the small screen, but not when reviving the franchise depends on impressing new and younger fans. What we have seen of the “new-old” Enterprise seems like a pretty good balance of serving young and old to me.
Anarchy? Come on. There have been dozens of canon contradictions. This is just making the Enterprise believable, as a starship crewed by 430 people in the 23rd Century. For every old fan who sheds a tear over this, there will be five young boys who say, “Wow, that’s cool!”, Just like we did when we first saw the Enterprise come right at us at warp speed during the opening credits of TOS on our television sets.
Personally, seeing that little bit of the Big E in the trailer, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I felt like a kid again.
If JJ handed me an exact replica of the tv Enterprise in this movie, and I knew he had a budget of that size—-I would have been disappointed and I’d say he didn’t have a clue. So far, so good…
#60 -
Well said and bravo.
It just seems like there are going to be significant problems with debating these modifications before anyone can actually tell what they are going to be like. Any actor that isn’t allowed to tell much of anything isn’t exactly a huge help with that, as it seems.
moogie do you really have to come into every thread and repeatedly flame the movie and divert into these silly canon wars.
I suggest you give it a rest, it grows very tiresome
44’s post sounds almost like sarcasm.
I will guardedly assume it’s not because I have posted some strong opinions today on the 2 other Yelchin threads about these conflicts, and we all seem pretty serious.
I think TrekXI will blow us away with canon because the writers know it. And regardless of our opinions, when the Big E comes onto the big screen again, the Klingon mind-sifter (”or mind ripper”) of XI will have us all drooling in ignorance of past conflicts.
Also to all the ‘canon satirists’…such posts are only provoking these fights and is bordering on trolling.
#44–”It’s not funny, this is a serious upheaval in the ST universe. Canon is the thread that holds ST together. Pull the stitching out, anarchy thrives and Trek is no more.”
In the words of William Shatner:
“GET A LIFE!!”
It’s a tv show/movie, not reality! If canon is that important to you and others ten fund your own movie.
Let’s get this guy drunk. He’s already spilling the beans while sober, imagine all the info after a couple of buds.
Well, I would like to hear next from Chris Pine and Bruce Greenwood. Pike needs a good fleshing-out, and seeing Jeff Hunter first in those “Menagerie” flashbacks (and then in the actual pilot) really painted an initial pic of an interesting character. Lots of Kirk in him for sure.
STXI will have to take the “Jeff Hunter left” angle away, and give Pike his own personality. Spock loses his commanding officer and meets JTK is also an interesting thing to look forward to.
Sorry I went on a tangent!
Canon DOES NOT include aesthetic design.
Canon is story. Canon is facts. Canon is events. What can be written down as information. Canon is NOT the way things look, or the style of things.
When you’re watching an episode of TOS and the camera angle changes, and all the lighting changes, that is NOT breaking canon. (At worst, it’s breaking continuity.)
When Troi stopped wearing her cheerleader skirt early on in TNG, and Worf’s forehead ridges changed, that was NOT breaking canon.
When they changed the way Romulans looked, or Cardassian uniforms, that was NOT breaking canon.
When they had a new actress playing the Borg Queen, that was NOT breaking canon.
When the Enterprise D went all “dark” in Generations (and likewise, when Data’s emotion chip appeared to be radically different to that of the TV show), that was NOT breaking canon.
Stylistic changes happen ALL THE TIME in TV shows. You tune in for a new season and things look different. Sometimes the changes are acknowledged as having actually occurred within the show. But many times it’s simply just a production issue, and the changes are supposed to have “been like that all along”.
With time, and money, things can be made to look better. TV shows can choose to cling rigidly to the established visual style if they really want to honour continuity. But most of the time, producers want things to look as good as possible, so they make changes, and they usually don’t make some big announcement about it in the story.
OK, if this film featured all the original TOS cast, as they looked in the ’60s, then it might seem strange to see those people on a different set. But the fact is that it is a brand new cast. Nothing can be done about that. Whether we like it or not, this can never be a visual replica of the 60s show. Nobody is going to think it’s the same people.
The key word is production.
The film is a new production of an old show. It’s a new cast, with new faces and new (in some cases very new) voices. The performances will be different. It’s not on TV in 4:3 ratio. The music will be a different style. The special effects may just be a tad more sophisticated. There may be some more ambitious camera work.
With all these new elements, a new “improved” visual style would only be natural.
If TOS had never been cancelled, and had been on TV since the 60s, there is no way the Enterprise would look anything like it did back then. Even if they were supposed to be on the same ship, it’s likely the ship, and interior, would have had several re-designs over the decades.
So the fact that the creators of this movie are paying ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to the 1960s designs is a testiment to the respect they are showing to the original show.
Anyway, to re-state my point again: production is NOT canon. Canon is about story and facts. Moan all you like about the new look (when it comes out) but it’s not breaking canon, it’s just messing with the style. But messing with the style will never change the story and the characters of Kirk and his crew. (Poor writing will do that.)
69, before you get in trouble, refer to 65. Anthony has a little red button and he won’t hesitate to use it.
Amen sister
18 - the bill for my new keyboard is on the way. Oh, and thanks for delaying tonight’s Warcraft raid.
69 - Gold-plated cookie award for best common-sense reply of the week. Chew it s l o w l y…savor the flavor of sanity.
YEa, that boy is a chatterbox…JJ is going to say ” I vill have to replace you, so shut the f%$% up or beam out! Ha HA !
70, I wasn’t trying to be controversial, or confrontational. Sorry if it came across that way. I was just trying to make the point that production changes aren’t such a big deal. I was actually trying to settle people down, not heat things up.
72, thanks :D
Hey all. I’m new here . . . I was just fascinated by all of the canon debates and I felt compelled to say something.
First, I’m going to have to agree with #69 about production changes and aesthetic design. We’ve all been putting up with little changes in details over the entire run of Star Trek. There were all of the things Jamie mentioned, and many other. We all spent years light-heartedly joking about what happened with the change in the look of the Klingons in TOS versus the movies and later series. There was no explanation for the drastic change, until of course they poked fun of the issue in DS9 when Worf simply said, “We do not discuss it with outsiders.” :) Kang, Koloth, and Kor all went from human-looking Klingons to heavily ridged Klingon brutes, and I think most people were happy with it.
So I guess that logic applies to the Enterprise as well.
If they’ve changed the Enterprise, so be it. But I must admit, I’d really rather have seen the original smooth-hulled Enterprise I grew up with flying across the big screen. It’s not so much a matter of canon for me as it is just personal preference and nostalgia. The old Enterprise is an icon . . . it’s inspired a generation, and is pretty much universally recognized. The original model hangs in the Smithsonian. I’ve always gotten a chill every time I’ve seen a beautiful new image created of the original ship . . . and this chill has never been present in the newer, flashier, designs. I’ve always wanted to see the original E soaring across the big screen . . .
If they think they need to change the way the ship looks, I just hope they have their reasons sorted out. Many are saying that it needs to be different in order to draw in a new crowd to revitalize Trek. As far as I’m concerned, if it’s not broken, don’t fix it. Really, are new generations so numb to sensation that they can’t be entertained by a smooth white hull? How many stylistic enhancements are needed before a new crowd can think it’s “cool?”
Oh, we saw aesthetic and stylistic changes in the Star Wars prequels . . . the special effects were superior and the new ships can do so much more. But really, even most of the “newer crowds” are more impressed with the old ships and old space battles.
And am I the only one who wonders why they had to change the look of the Galactica (Battlestar Galactica) when the original ship looked as awesome as it did?
Is there really so little faith that people can no longer appreciate a good story unless everything is an uber-detailed visual masterpiece? Have we really become that mindless? Every new feature needs bigger, better explosions . . . and every new horror movie needs to be more bloody. Maybe we are becoming so numb that we have to keep outdoing ourselves in order to be entertained. If that’s the case, that’s sad.
If JJ changed the Enterprise, and offers no explanation, I’m not going to get huffy over cannon . . . but I do find it a little sad. I just hope it’s not some kind of pretentious attempt to make his own personal mark on Trek and distinguish his work from something that has already achieved greatness.
“”"”If JJ changed the Enterprise, and offers no explanation, I’m not going to get huffy over cannon . . . but I do find it a little sad. I just hope it’s not some kind of pretentious attempt to make his own personal mark on Trek and distinguish his work from something that has already achieved greatness.”"”
you get the second cookie of the evening for this quote! Chocolate chip, or oatmeal raisin?
CANNON!!! CANNON!!! i didn’t hear anybody complain about cannon when in first contact the borg had an leader! that undermined the entire point in the collective! imagine the klingons having a hive mind in this one, you’d all hit the roof!!!
i guess my point is the only people ive seen who discarded cannon have been sacked!
and about bloody time too!!!
my only regret is JMS never got to make his star trek show cos that would have been better than the new BSG, which i think is amazing! ( and lets face it ronald d. moore took their approach and guess what - they were right!!) and the changes they would have made in that , everything except kirk, spock, bones, the enterprise and the five year mission would have stayed the same - everything else was up for grabs!! and that would have really ticked you all off!!!
ive been down this road with another orci project - transformers and when i got my hands on the script i knew we were going to be ok, to quote chris sarandon in fright night “YOUVE GOT TO HAVE FAITH!!!”
Why are the canon crazies still bothering to keep up with this?
I love TOS. Heck, I was home sick today and spent a huge chunk of my morning glued to my sofa watching TOS online. I had a ball.
But we’re still talking about a 40 year old show made on a shoe string budget and financed by people who eventually canceled the show two years prematurely.
Do you really think Gene would use the exact same sets and designs if he were alive and making Trek for the first time today?
Any story teller worth their salt would jump at the chance to apply modern production values to this classic story. Don’t blame JJ for making the most of an opportunity Gene never had- huge budgets and 21st century technology.
You’re not going to get New Voyages/Phase II out of JJ.
If you can’t handle it, then don’t watch the new flick. TOS is on DVD and on line and in syndication and living anew in the hands of the remarkable Elvis and his merry band of wonderful fans. You’ve got many hours of wonderful stories to enjoy and N-O-T-H-I-N-G is going to “unravel” that.
But PLEASE stop raining on the parade of those of us who think JJ just might be doing something remarkable.
I repeat myself with a comment made by a (non trekker) friend of mine looking at the dimly lighted corridor in ncc-1701.com: “hey, that is Kirk’s old Enterprise!”
You see, details have been changed and updated but the overall look is perceived as the same. Good news for me.
re: my comment above.
Dear Mr. Cawley, I referred to you as the “remarkable Elvis” because your name escaped me as I was typing. I intended no insult- in fact, I really like the show. I’m glad you’re doing it old school. I’m equally glad that JJ isn’t.
Chocolate chip, please. :)
At least this guy can act and does not have that bad hairpiece/comb over thing going that the original Chekov had (and still has). Aren’t there any balding males in the future? Oh yes, I forgot (rubs hand over head)
#82 . . . I think Walter Koenig could act. Besides, he’s a nice guy. I’ve met him. And now he’s moved on from Trek, and has his own friends, and credit cards, and keys . . .
you know I am probably going to get an earful for this one but what the Hell. I think that that Star Trek 11 is going to be hailed as a classic by trekies in near future and the distant future. Yes these words are bold and probably reckless on my part .I think the whole arguements of what is cannon and what isn’t is becoming just a little silly. The phrase landing party vs Away Team being an example of how ridiculous that things are becoming, think about it is this something to get worked up about and if they don’t follow to the letter the cannon, then so what. The original Cannon was stated back in the 1960 i believe, well that was in the 60′ and this is the 21 century alot has changed. To expect a trek Movie made in the 21 century to wed itself to a cannon established so long ago is both unrealistic and foolish. Don’t prejudge the film because of this . A further point. I remember a certain Trek movie that because of one story element there fans threatening to boycott the film but this film became a trek and a cinema classic and it now enjoys wide acceptance by Trek fandom.Would any care to guess which film I am refering to ? no? oKay its Star trek 2 The Wrath of Khan. fans as you know were objecting to the fact that Spock was going to be killed off. Sllso ther is one minor issue in the film .In Tos Chekov never met Khan yet Kan said he remembered him. but this is a minor thing
Dear SIr JJ,
Can you reboot the Cannonball Run franchise? Since we’re talking about it and all.
Stay True,
=h=
“The design MUST remain EXACTLY as the 60’s version and genes original vision or I will personally write 1000,0000 letters of complaint and my local star trek group will engage in a mind meld to affect the profits of this movie!”
Ummm…the original Enterprise design wasn’t Gene’s original vision. It was Matt Jefferies’. Gene actually wanted MORE details on the hull, such as what they’re doing for the new movie! The Enterprise has been said to carry the same lines as the classic Enterprise, just a little more organic(streamlined hopefully is what that means), and obviously with a lot more hull details such as azteced hull plating.
And as for all of you saying you’ll boycott the movie….grow up. It’s a MOVIE. They can’t be expected to have every single blue button in the exact same spot it would’ve been. Saying you’ll boycott the movie is like saying you want Star Trek to die.
As for canon, even Roddenberry didn’t always stick to it, and DS9 & Voyager didn’t stick to it all the time either.
this is an interesting thread. gotta agree with anthony that canon-satire has become as tedious as those who seem unable to place reason before passion in these matters.
#87 if you thinks its bad now can you imagine the discussions and complaints that we’ll be getting after the film comes out. if its this bad and petty now I dread to think what its going to be like later on. Then againg its equally possible that all of this will blow over and be forgotten though i would put this last item in the wishful thinking department.
Garovorkin,
“if you thinks its bad now can you imagine the discussions and complaints that we’ll be getting after the film comes out.”
You make us think, pondering the future. Since you went there, I take this a step further. What about after the movie… what does this site become? When there is no more Star Trek movie news.
I am sure that BIG DAWG AP has a plan. I just don’t know what it is, other than despising old h69. He’s been good to me though, through it all. I wish that he would be my friend.
ahhh, it’s time. AP, I want to give you my personal and private email address. Only Vulcanista, James Cawley, and THX 1138 have it, it’s for the important people and it’s like a Red Phone to hitch1969. I know that we’ve had back and forth through my webmaster address of hitchworld1969@aol.com. And that one always works too.
But like when Shatner’s true friends call him “Bill”, its time for you and I to take that leap in our relationship. Put this in your rolodex my good man. I don’t even give it to the paid members of my site:
supermodeldoug@aol.com
There. I now pronounce us, “Flamingos”.
=h=
Well, I was enjoying coming to this site and visiting with the fans but I gotta tell ya, this is getting frustrating. Maybe if Anthony made some rules like “3 strikes and you’re out” kind of thing it would deter some Flamers and Trollers and Haters.
My goodness but there are some really angry people who visit this website! I grew up with an angry sibling 12 years my senior who was abusive to me until I was 16 so when I’m exposed to it my body instantly reacts with fear. Can’t help it. Seemed to end up working at a places where I had to deal with TONS of angry people. It was very stressful. Long story short: I’m not working now.
Here, reading the angry posts, the heart just starts to pound and the anxiety level goes up and I try to ignore the posts that offend but it’s getting more difficult. Maybe some topics should just be banned PERIOD and people who bring it up (like Godwin’s Law — except call it Pascale’s Law or whoever formulates and finalizes it) are banned permanently either with one warning or no warning. Whatever is decided.
I am serious. It can really ruin it for the rest of us. Anyway, that’s my two cents worth.
kg
#78 “Do you really think Gene would use the exact same sets and designs if he were alive and making Trek for the first time today?”
Maybe not…depends on if Matt Jefferies was still alive and serving as his designer.
Katie G,
Alright…. you had me at ” I was enjoying coming to this site”. I’m going to get you in on the supermodeldoug acccount, my highly privvy and exclusive email addy. I can’t help myself. I have to make cuts and butts on the waiting list for you, but I see now that this is the right thing to do.
Put me in your contacts but please share with no one. I look forward to hearing from you:
supermodeldoug@aol.com
best!!
=h=
Re: #92. hitch1969©
Hey thanks, but um, forgive me if I am being terribly obtuse but, when you type out your e-mail address and post it here, can’t everyone else see it along with the ones you are giving it too? Or is there something I don’t know?
Yeah, I know, I left myself wide open on that one. But, seriously, aren’t you flooded with e-mails?
kg
Katie- I’m sorry to read what you went through growing up with your sibling, but glad that you felt you could share it here. There are those of us here who care about and respect the opinions and sensitivities of others - I don’t think I am out-of-line to say that those who are displaying anger issues here are probably unhappy people looking for a safe way to vent, and they probably don’t even see themselves as being unhappy or angry. Perhaps your message will touch a part of their heart and prompt them to rein it in, at least on this website.
Katie G,
Such a sweetheart you are. I am going to reveal some of myself to you.
I keep checking but not one person from this site has followed up with me when I’ve given out the old supermodel account. I know, I know… I’m insanely poplular with the masses. It doesnt add up.
Would love to hear from you, and have something tangible when filtering out the spam. Don’t take the flaming here too seriously. I certainly do not :)
=h=
hitch I have warned you before and do not want to again..this site is not about you. It is not about me, it is about star trek.
we are not equipped as a pick up joint, you can try the chat tab up top but otherwise stay on topic
Re: #94: Denise de Arman
Thank you SO MUCH!! Wow.
Maybe I can learn to screen them out somehow. This is a fabulous website and I love the discussion. The things I am learning about Star Trek — man… I knew “stuff” but not like this. Viewpoints that I hadn’t even thought of…
Anyway, Yelchin is going to make a great Chekov. He’s actually closer in age to the character than Walter Koenig was. Boy did Koenig look young, though. Didn’t look his age at all.
Was he wearing a hairpiece to look like the Beatles or because his hairline was receding? Sometimes (even now) his hair looks good, then it looks like a rug. I can’t tell and don’t know all the poop on these guys.
From what I can tell, all the cast for ST:XI have their own hair.
Re: #95. hitch1969©
Also want to thank YOU for your kind words as well and, please do not be offended but I cannot e-mail you. I guard my relationship with my husband very carefully so will err on the side of caution and not e-mail anyone we do not know. I won’t even have a coffee with a male friend if it’s just the two of us. However, please keep posting here and we’ll exchange views on our beloved franchise!!
kg
well… how ’bout that Anton Yelchin? Anyone else feel that he might be blabbing a little too much? Or not enough at all?
BEST!!
=h=
Was he wearing a hairpiece to look like the Beatles or because his hairline was receding?
>>
No, he was wearing an actual “Beatles” wig to make him appealing to the younger audiences. Later on he went to his own hair, but in the beginning, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!
I’D RATHER READ THE “CANON-SATIRE” ANY DAY OF THE WEEK…
…than the tiresome, illogical whining from the canon-mongers. At least the satire makes me laugh. The canon-ites make me ashamed to be a Trekkie sometimes…
#67
Do you mean “buds” as in — well, you know, or do you mean Buds as in Budweiser? ;-D
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista :-|
I read nothing there that disturbed me.
Just wish we’d get thrown some bones.
Vader
Re: #99. Jorg Sacul
YOU ARE KIDDING ME! What a riot! He was a cutie, though. However he was 31 I think (and I was, what, 12? Hah!) so some of the teenyboppers were WAY too young. Who knew…
Also — I meant to say “Monkees” but maybe it WAS the Beatles… Anyway, I heard it was to get more viewers because of the Monkees, more specifically, because of Davy Jones.
kg
re: 102. Darth Vader
Yes, agreed in this singular context but what is your take on the trend of increasing information this week from Young Yelchin?
Does you like dem spoilers, Darth? Does you?
I mean, you waited til almost the end of Empire to reveal that you were Luke’s father. How would you feel if Mark Hamill was sort of hinting to that a year and a half before Empire was released?
Would you have done one of those deals where you used the force to choke him from far away?
=h=
Vulcanista
you got to be smokin’ da ganja, mon……………..every time I indulge I ask what the in-flight movie is……………….and I’m not on a plane!
Wow, DUDE, typing is so RADICAL!
#100
I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY THAT WOULD VALIDATE THE USE OF THIS ALLCAP TEXT.
…and neither do you. the canon champions, if they bother you so, can be scrolled past easily (it’s that little arrow on your keyboard). i believe that the film will satisfy most of them, ultimately, anyway. if you need a laugh, laugh at them. i do. they’re a hoot.
He doesnt really need to cool it. He’s locked in this part, filming has been going on for some time. Likely a multi-picture contract. He’s probably got Checkov nailed - the kid is pretty talented. I’m sure he can handle a little flak from JJ Abrams, and he’s probably not looking to commit career suicide by ruining the entire story of this obviously very secretive (JJ Abrams…) movie. A story with a plot and arc that are already rather obvious.
107. JACKIEBOY
That was a refreshing perspective. Hadn’t considered it from that angle.
=h=
I want to see cast photos on the bridge of the Enterprise and I want to see them NOW!
Meh, its not like he said anything that we already knew.
So, that means he said things we DIDN’T know???
My God Man, where’s Zoë ?? Tired of Yelchin’s Beltchin’
this kid had better keep his mouth shut before he really gives something away. :)
‘Let’s just kick it on the Enterprise.’
Win, Yelchin-kun, WIN.
He may have gone a bit far with the Russian accent thing. Orci wouldn’t even give that one up a while ago. As someone said, he could get a reprimand, but at 19, I doubt he’s used to maintaining corporate secrecy.
Koenig speaks fluent Russian, and it’s Anton’s first language. I kinda wish they spoke with proper accents.
I LOVE him… let’s make the Chekov movie next!!!!!!!!!
I think the Charlie Bartlett previews are hilarious and am going to see it when it opens, whenever that is… anybody know when that is? Man, insomnia and typing at 5:45am do not go together.
#43 asks why you don’t hear from Chris Pine.
He is on a VERY short leash right now. I work in the entertainment press. There was a recent media push regarding the DVD release of the independent film Blind Dating (starring Chris Pine.) The DVD company had set up phone interviews with Pine to promote the film. Naturally, I told my contact I was happy to talk to him about Blind Dating, but would have to ask about Star Trek, too.
Suddenly, Pine became “unavailable.” And none of my competitors had an interview with him either.
Yackity#118- Ooh, very interesting bit of news, just the kind of thing we like to grab hold of and dissect on this board. Very interesting…
118:
Pine would be fine saying “Everything’s great and JJ is great and Star Trek is great, and the film has an epic feel, etc…” which is what we generally hear from the cast anyway. Sounds like coincidence to me. He could always say “I am not allowed to talk Trek. Let’s talk about Blind Date.”
I mean, wouldn’t he be required in his contract for Blind Date to talk to the press and promote the film’s release?
Am I the only person who is having trouble following this discussion?
#112 The Last Maquis
‘Tired of Yelchin’s Beltchin’
Nice.
#115 AJ
I’m kinda with you on the fact that Anton should be using his own (Russian background after all) accent, rather than ‘mimicing’ the original Chekov ‘accent’. Does it follow that Chris Pine will do the ‘pregnant pauses’ of William Shatner? What I’m REALLY worried about then is will J.J. want Simon Pegg to really ‘Scottish’ it up ala James Doohan…
#106 -
(Using all caps at the beginning of my posts is just my way of using a header first before typing the rest. I’ve been doing that for weeks now.
Most canon-fascists–admittedly, not THAT many on these boards–I tend to ignore, but sometimes, like a gruesome car crash, it’s impossible to look away. Can’t decide if it’s a “love-to-hate-them” or “hate-to-love-them” scenario…)
BUT BEFORE I GET OFF-TOPIC…
…I like Anton Yelchin a lot and think he’ll do great. At first, I was hoping they’d cast a real-life Russian actor, or at least have him use a hardcore, more-realistic Russian accent, but I’m quickly warming to Yelchin’s smart decision to incorporate some of Koenig’s quirks. Should be a lot of fun!
SPB:
He is a real-life Russian actor, from Leningrad no less. Just not one who lives in Russia. He, Like Urban and McGillion, have decided to “sound” American. The substitution of V for W is more Polish/Eastern European: Poland’s “Wodka Wyborowa” is pronounced with all “Vs” where the “Ws” are. Anyway, today’s language tip.
By the way, “SPb” is the standard accepted abbreviation for St. Petersburg, which you obviously know very well, or have no idea of.
#124 -
Thanks for enlightening me… SPB are just my initials. But I learned something new for the day!
#97: “From what I can tell, all the cast for ST:XI have their own hair.”
Shat & De Kelley wore rugs on TOS, plus Koening in the movies.
Chekov’s original wig was to make him look like Davey Jones from The Monkees, Walter was hired because looked like Davey & Coon wanted to get the swooning teenage girl demographic.
After they ditched the Monkees wig, Koening did a comb-over for the rest of the series’ run.
#122 in the case of Simon Pegg he can do a convincing scotish accent , The man is both a great comedian and actor. Accents are not that difficult for a for good actor to do. Look at the fact that the lead actor in Journeyman is English as is Michel Ryan , both of them do a convincing American accent. As for Anton Yelchin no worries her here either. I do think that the who accent issue is starting to get a little overblown here.
#19 I don’t think that Anton is in any trouble for what he has said with regard to the movie.
#57 ” hate STV. Hate it. I have seen it at least 30 times”
lol
All these Yelchin canon spoilers are typical PR stunts to get people on these threads wired up.
Kirk: Sulu. Lock phasers on Abrams, make him sizzle and burn!
Sulu: Phasers locked on target.
Kirk: Fire when ready.
Sulu: Ready captain.
Kirk: Fire!
Enterprise fires phasers on the Earths surface and vaporizes J.J. Abrams.
All Bridge Crew: Yes! All right! Way to go! We saved the Earth and Hollywood.
#130–Why?
# Okay whoever you are you’ve just established which camp your in with regard to the Abrams film. I was just wondering if you actually had anything constructive to add to this discussion. you entitled to you opinion but this kind of demonstrative nonsense will not win you much respect here. Again anything useful.
If AY chose to keep the made-up accent of an American actor instead of an authentic Russian sound, then the actor/JJ have made an interesting decision towards Trek canon.
AY also revealed nothing we hadn’t known before.
“This isn’t your father’s Star Trek.”
I fall on the very cool side.
Canon at best is an outline. Trek writers had to be fluid within canon due to television story-telling needs. All canon needs to be filtered with television production in mind. IMHO, to miss this is to miss the canon problem answer.
Re: #126. I Love My Moogie
Really? DeForest Kelley wore a rug? It was a pretty good one then. Sure didn’t look obvious (to me, anyway). I know some of the behind-the-scenes stuff but where does one get the scoop? Obviously I’ve missed out on a lot.
kg
Who cares about saving Hollywood?
Someone go save JJ so the film isn’t delayed any more,. And someone else get those damn shields up and prepare to return fire…
Seriously, 130, even with all the varying opinions here, you are the first with that one. If you have an opinion, express and debate it. The site exists primarily for JJ’s film, and his colleagues visit on occasion. And we like it, so mind your manners, please.
#134.
Katie, watch TSFS scene with Kirk & McCoy in Spock’s quarters, after McCoy says ‘remember’ & falls into Kirk’s arms you can see Kelley’s toupee’s seam/the color difference with his real hair in the close-up shot.
T.’.
What he has described is consistent with previous reports that the design aesthetic would be ‘retro-futuristic’, an HD perspective, if you will, applied to TOS (the Cage/Forbidden Planet?) canon. Keep in mind, this could end up turning out like old school Disney’s Tomorrowland (see Speed Racer) or, hopefully…
Like something we have never seen…
Before…
…
..
.
Katie, Also—Nimoy didn’t want to get a ‘Spock’ haircut for STV & wore a Moe Howard rug. If you watch the location scenes you can see the side of it blowing upwards.
25. old tyme trek geek #1231 - February 22, 2008
What?
So he basically gave away no plot points we didn’t already know, and people are talking about ’silencing’ him with lawyers. Oi vey.
#135–Regarding #130, someone should “vaporize” that post. Even the most fervorent Abrams critics who post regularly on this site have the courtesy not to do that.
I enjoy a good debate (or a good joke, for that matter) as much as anyone, but that is just childish and inappropriate. I support your response 100%. Mind your manners, indeed.
#139–Yeah, I decided not to touch that one. He/she lost me right off the bat.
130. STAR TREK: SAVIOURS - February 23, 2008
“Kirk: Sulu. Lock phasers on Abrams, make him sizzle and burn!
Sulu: Phasers locked on target.
Kirk: Fire when ready.
Sulu: Ready captain.
Kirk: Fire!
Enterprise fires phasers on the Earths surface and vaporizes J.J. Abrams.
All Bridge Crew: Yes! All right! Way to go! We saved the Earth and Hollywood.”
What was that for? Have you seen the movie? You make no point and come off as someone who cares little for people.
#140 Sean
Agreed. Nothing new here and people get upset.
Hmmm. I wonder if in that Sulu sword fight scene if they will use the classic fight music.
Da DA da da da da daaah daa daa daa da! :P
#144–I’d pay good money to hear it scored on the big screen, but I doubt it. ” Amok Time” and “Friday’s Child” are two of the best scored television series episodes that I have ever seen—-Star Trek or otherwise.
#145: It would sound pretty cool, wouldn’t it? :) Either way, I hope they do good things with music . . . new or old. A score can make or break a scene. I’m sure what ever they do will be fine in the end.
But about this debate about the debates . . . I’m really amazed at how emotional people are getting on both sides of this debate. I know canon people can go a bit far, but so can people on the other end.
Lets face it. Star Trek is big to all of us, and Trekkies are a diverse bunch of people. We all like it for different reasons . . . Canon is big to some people because it creates a sense of continuity and defines that “world” that they so love. A retro-active change to that world can feel like it invalidates what they have loved for so long and they can get a little defensive about it. Canon-lovers are people too, and their opinions are just as valid.
People are pre-judging the movie from both sides of the isle . . . it kind of looks like some people are already to bow down and kiss JJ’s feet for something that we know little about at this point, and won’t even see until well over a year from now.
Both sides have valid points . . . Canon-people love what they love, and the other side are ready for something fresh and new to revitalize the show that they love so much.
We really all need to agree to disagree on some things . . . and realize that one way or another, everyone’s opinion is valid. There are going to be people who love this movie, and there are going to be people that won’t.
I see myself as kind of in the middle of the debate, as I am a big fan of the old look and feel of the show, but I don’t get hung up on “canon.” From my position, I heavily suspect more people are going to like the movie than dislike it, from both sides of the debate. As has already been said, people got over the different looks of the Klingons after ST:TMP . . . and came to enjoy an entire new take on Klingon culture. I think we’ll all agree, even canon-people, that the honor-loving and strong modern Klingon is cooler than the old-school sneaky Klingons who looked like humans.
As much as I’d like to see the ship and everything look the way it once did . . . I’m still looking forward to seeing what JJ makes of this. I hope his changes are for the right reasons, and I have bouts of skepticism, but until I see it I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he can do for the franchise what they once did for the Klingons.
But lets respect everyones’ opinions . . . everyone might be going a bit too far. We’re all here for the same purpose — we love Star Trek, and want to see it come back to life. We just all have different opinions on the best way to do that.
144: That would be awesome!
To the canonistas: Just chill. It’s fiction. I’ve been a ST fan going on 15 years (I’m 27), and as long as it follows the spirit of the franchise, I don’t care if they make little changes here and there. Just sit back and enjoy it and stop trying to cry foul over every little thing and ruin everyone else’s good time.
Closettrekker#145- Right on with the scores on Amok Time and Friday’s Child, actually the whole series. Original musical scores ROCKED, and talk about setting a mood in Amok Time! ST set high standards in writing, acting, directing and definately blew the roof off of tele music before and since.
It’s starting to sound like a great movie, instead of animated spin-off #900.
All: I think the regular posts of Bob Orci and others are a key new element for Trek XI. Remember we all had a visit from the bridge?
They are all geeks, and Orci is “of the body,” sitting on the “supreme court,” which decides things of this nature.
I think, for this site, we should relish our contact with the production process and enjoy what Anthony and team are able to extract from Hollywood and beyond.
#146:
Cato the Llama, I nominate you the ‘Voice of Reason’ for this thread!
# 146 Cato the Llama
Thing is that if you get ten different people in room discussing trek, You get 10 different opinions and that is simply the way it is. Honestly I would prefer it that way. If we all agreed on everything ,that to me would boring, there would no knock down drag out verbal Donny Brooks which we have all come to know and to expect and love. Without the occasional zanny cannon free for all ,known as The Cannon Follies, this site would be no fun at all. But seriously most of the discussions, debates and arguements that we have tend to be constructive and infomative and as mister Spock himself would say “Fascinating”. That also part of the fun. This is my second week on this site and yes Ive skated on thin ice on more then one occasion and Ive had some spirited debates and I wouldn’t have missed this website or the folks on it for the world. I think that even afet the movie comes and goes there will still lots to talk about.
#151 Why thank you Moogie. I get to pretend to be Vulcan now! *trying to get my fingers to make the sign, but sucking at it throughly* ;)
#152 Yes, Garovorkin, I agree. I love a good spirited debate. I was simply saying that I think people should be able to experience these debates without getting really mad about it or, insulting others, or becoming severely emotionally affected. We can think that the other guy is wrong and fight about it all day, and that’s awesome, but I just think that in the end we should still all be friends and not be so angry. That’s all. :)
There’s this really cute little comic thing I saw, and I’d post it, but I don’t know if that’d be considered spamming or not . . . but it’s cute and made me think of this (and many other) message boards. It’s got a stick figure guy sitting at a computer, typing away. A voice comes from his bedroom saying, “Honey, come to bed!” He replies, “I can’t!” She asks, “Why not?!” He replies, “Because somebody on the internet is wrong!” :)
Cato#153- That was freakin’ hilarious - I’m wiping tears!
Denise, care to borrow my hanky?
And, no, hanky doesn’t HAVE to lead to panky!
Harry- I’ll take one-to-go, two if I’m going to stay and watch Trouble w/Tribbles.
I especially enjoyed DS9’s “Trials and Tribble-ations”
friggin’ brilliant!!
Re: #136. I Love My Moogie
Thanks!! I’ll go right now and put it on while I prep dinner.
Woo-Hoo — something to do on Saturday night!!
Wish I could think of something funny to do with rugs…
Harry? Anyone?
ttfn
kg
Katie- Rugs? Specify.
Katie- Sorry, slow on the uptake - you were, I believe, referring to “faux hair”?
Let’s hope, with this movie, they’ve ironed out the bugs
But, hey, at least none of the actors are forced to wear rugs
This situation doesn’t need toupees to be hairy
Some days the interviews we read are downright scary
If this movie’s no good I’m going after JJ with some thugs!
Sorry, Denise. I stepped away from the Computer for a bit.
Yes I was referring to faux hair and speaking of that,
heeeeeeeeeeeeere’s Harry…
Thanks, dude. Knew I could depend on you for some hair-raising humour. (Oooh, that was bad…)
And #153. Cato, your comic thing? Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!
kg
One more comment before I go make dinner –
I don’t think Yelchin is really being all that chatty. He has a movie coming out so of course he’s going to be interviewed about that and it is inevitable that he will be asked about Star Trek as well so it just seems that he’s everywhere.
Oh and by the way, Anthony, you triggered an old memory of mine when you wrote the words “Chatty Cathy” in the opening line up above. That was my nick-name in public school because I was a little chatterbox (bet you couldn’t tell) and the doll had just come out and the name is similar. I’ll wager 500 quatloos that most of the posters on this thread didn’t have a clue as to what that meant.
Thanks for the memories. And the continually-excellent articles. I’ll try not to spam the threads. (Love this i-talk.)
kg
# 163: 500 quatloos is a little rich for my blood on that bet, KG. Besides, I only gamble on Fizbin . . . and only then on Tuesdays. ;)
#157: Harry, I agree. “Trials and Tribble-ations” was brilliant. Probably one of the best ever!
Seeing Dr. Bashir in the funny “canon” hairstyle was hilarious! And seeing Dax in the canon outfit? Well . . . hehehe. :P
Yeah, I agree that Yelchin isn’t being all that chatty. We already knew the Enterprise was going to look at least a little different, and it wouldn’t be long before we’d learn Klingons and/or Romulans might be involved. Yelchin’s talking is keeping devoted fans glued to the computer and has us wanting more. It works in JJ’s favor, and really, in the favor of everyone. Well, everyone who doesn’t mind minor spoilerettes, that is.
Besides, really . . . I have a strong feeling that even if we all had the entire script to read, we’d still be going and seeing the movie (some of us multiple times). Now wouldn’t we? :)
Re: #164. Cato the Llama
“# 163: 500 quatloos is a little rich for my blood on that bet, KG. Besides, I only gamble on Fizbin . . . and only then on Tuesdays. ;) ”
Very clever! I’d forgotten about that card game from “A Piece of the Action”.
kg
#163 Katie
You’d lose that bet, darlin’! I had a Chatty Cathy when I was 4 or 5, and it used to go off all by itself during the middle of the night. Scared the living bejeebus outta me, and I still to this day will not be in the same room as a talking doll. Or a clown, but that’s another inappropriate-for-this-thread story.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Look on the bright side ,Paramount will be doing updated trailers, to give a taste of what is to come. At least in the immediate future we have that to look forward to. Also consider the fact that they will probably release a novelization of the movie well before it opens, which will give us the story but It wont dampen our desire to see this film. For me spoilers are not an Issue.
Re: #167. The Vulcanista
Are you sure it wasn’t a “Chatty Chuckie” doll??
[Grins and clicks on “say it”]
I think we’re nearing the end of the usefulness of this thread…
kg
#169: We’re nearing the usefulness of this thread? No, don’t say that!! When in Spock “Perhaps we’ve outlived our usefulness” in Star Trek VI, that pretty much marked the end of the voyages of that crew . . .
Is this truly the end of this thread?
*sigh* I guess we can go back and do a prequel of this thread . . . and maybe cast new people as us . . . and tell the story of how we all met. Then, we can maybe argue about whether or not we should stick to canon of the original threads — do we keep the original style of the site? Or do we make it flashy and fancy for a new audience?
God, I’m sorry. I’m too tired to make sense. :P
I wish there was a thread devoted to Edna Glover, the hottest of all Trek movie era babes.
#158- rug? do u mean merkin?
sorry… couldn’t resist… must stop further comments… could get in trouble…
#172
What do you think happened to all those extra tribbles?
#169
LOL!!
No, as a matter of fact, I’m not sure *at all*!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Re: #172. Captain Otter
Sorry, that one went over my head. Don’t know the word “merkin”. Or should I say:
“Merkin and merkin!! What is merkin???”
Okay, I’m looking it up [pauses while she tries to find it in the dictionary] … It’s not there. Check the spelling for me and I’ll look it up again.
I’m out for the day. See you crazies later.
kg
Just before I go:
Re: #170 and #173:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
Pretty good!
kg
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#175
” ‘Merican” is Bush’s Texas-twang pronunciation of the word “American.”
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#178–Easy on the “Texas-twang”!