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		<title>By: babii trecker</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/26/shatner-star-trek-is-frog/comment-page-3/#comment-487039</link>
		<dc:creator>babii trecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>star trek is just the best television show ever.... what other shows have had 5 different series, a cartoon series and 12 movies with another on the way... none.. star treck&#039;s the best baby...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>star trek is just the best television show ever&#8230;. what other shows have had 5 different series, a cartoon series and 12 movies with another on the way&#8230; none.. star treck&#8217;s the best baby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ED</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/26/shatner-star-trek-is-frog/comment-page-3/#comment-486021</link>
		<dc:creator>ED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;m going to respond to two of you so bare with me here:

FIRST UP:

#117 - &quot;I hope you find peace with this, because what is sad is not the lack of Shatner in this movie, but such a lack of imagination on your part that you cannot see past him in the Trek Universe. Good grief. Get a life.&quot;

I cant believe that you are actually telling that guy to &#039;Get a Life&#039;.

Why dont you follow your own advice?

You&#039;ve argued with him and ANYONE else who even mentions their problem with WS not being in the movie, even if its &quot;Damn, I wish Shatner was in it oh well.&quot; 

Come to grips that to most of the WORLD that could care less about Star Trek, TOS and those characters and actors who played them are TREK. Kirk (Shatner) being the top one with Spock (Nimoy) not far behind. As much as you want to push for the fact that he isn&#039;t &#039;Trek&#039; *at this point* to people who haven&#039;t seen more than a few shows or movies and could care less about canon.

Now with that said, will the NEW actors change that and become the NEW face of the franchise and replace somewhat the original cast? Possibly..... But they very well could end up screwing it all up and it all being a big stinker. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE.

But speaking from experience (since I work in Hollywood) to say that bringing Shatner in the movie would&#039;ve made the picture too convoluted for non-fans is not very accurate since, in the end, non-fans will likely skip this movie anyway unless it gets really great reviews.

If the script is good and the director knows what he is doing, then the picture will flourish regardless of any mumbo-jumbo. 

Now to #116: &quot;Nor will it change how poorly Abrams handled this situation. It may have been talked about to death, but that still doesn’t change that a very stupid decision was made, and the movie will suffer as a result.&quot;

In the end, like Mr. Abrams said awhile back, one of the reasons they are not including Shatner in *this* movie is simply because that is not the story they are trying to tell. As I stated before, it is not a wise decision to exclude Shatner (for $$$ reasons) but in the same breathe I must say that it isn&#039;t a show stopper either. Give the new cast a chance as maybe one day down the line the &#039;timeline&#039; gets altered and &#039;Kirk&#039; doesn&#039;t die in &#039;Generations&#039; and we shall see Pine act that out. That *is* what you want right? Or is it all about &#039;Shatner&#039; and not the character of Kirk????

The *most* important thing here is that the new actors/writters/director/producers get it *right* ESPECIALLY this first time in bringing us a GREAT MOVIE regardless of who&#039;s in it, and what the story is or else this franchise is doomed for new material for long while.

Edward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m going to respond to two of you so bare with me here:</p>
<p>FIRST UP:</p>
<p>#117 &#8211; &#8220;I hope you find peace with this, because what is sad is not the lack of Shatner in this movie, but such a lack of imagination on your part that you cannot see past him in the Trek Universe. Good grief. Get a life.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cant believe that you are actually telling that guy to &#8216;Get a Life&#8217;.</p>
<p>Why dont you follow your own advice?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve argued with him and ANYONE else who even mentions their problem with WS not being in the movie, even if its &#8220;Damn, I wish Shatner was in it oh well.&#8221; </p>
<p>Come to grips that to most of the WORLD that could care less about Star Trek, TOS and those characters and actors who played them are TREK. Kirk (Shatner) being the top one with Spock (Nimoy) not far behind. As much as you want to push for the fact that he isn&#8217;t &#8216;Trek&#8217; *at this point* to people who haven&#8217;t seen more than a few shows or movies and could care less about canon.</p>
<p>Now with that said, will the NEW actors change that and become the NEW face of the franchise and replace somewhat the original cast? Possibly&#8230;.. But they very well could end up screwing it all up and it all being a big stinker. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE.</p>
<p>But speaking from experience (since I work in Hollywood) to say that bringing Shatner in the movie would&#8217;ve made the picture too convoluted for non-fans is not very accurate since, in the end, non-fans will likely skip this movie anyway unless it gets really great reviews.</p>
<p>If the script is good and the director knows what he is doing, then the picture will flourish regardless of any mumbo-jumbo. </p>
<p>Now to #116: &#8220;Nor will it change how poorly Abrams handled this situation. It may have been talked about to death, but that still doesn’t change that a very stupid decision was made, and the movie will suffer as a result.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end, like Mr. Abrams said awhile back, one of the reasons they are not including Shatner in *this* movie is simply because that is not the story they are trying to tell. As I stated before, it is not a wise decision to exclude Shatner (for $$$ reasons) but in the same breathe I must say that it isn&#8217;t a show stopper either. Give the new cast a chance as maybe one day down the line the &#8216;timeline&#8217; gets altered and &#8216;Kirk&#8217; doesn&#8217;t die in &#8216;Generations&#8217; and we shall see Pine act that out. That *is* what you want right? Or is it all about &#8216;Shatner&#8217; and not the character of Kirk????</p>
<p>The *most* important thing here is that the new actors/writters/director/producers get it *right* ESPECIALLY this first time in bringing us a GREAT MOVIE regardless of who&#8217;s in it, and what the story is or else this franchise is doomed for new material for long while.</p>
<p>Edward</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/26/shatner-star-trek-is-frog/comment-page-3/#comment-485555</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#123

There is *always* room for one more, especially one who can talk Trek!

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#123</p>
<p>There is *always* room for one more, especially one who can talk Trek!</p>
<p>Peace. Live long and prosper.<br />
The Vulcanista }:-|</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/26/shatner-star-trek-is-frog/comment-page-3/#comment-485422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, See my reply in Chat folder.

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, See my reply in Chat folder.</p>
<p>Peace. Live long and prosper.<br />
The Vulcanista }:-|</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Vulcanista, do tell.......are you going to Cancun with a friend to party or is this more of an intimate vacation*? I won&#039;t tell.....promise!

*lucky guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Vulcanista, do tell&#8230;&#8230;.are you going to Cancun with a friend to party or is this more of an intimate vacation*? I won&#8217;t tell&#8230;..promise!</p>
<p>*lucky guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/26/shatner-star-trek-is-frog/comment-page-3/#comment-484834</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  #121. B.N.D.

Okay, that&#039;s too much information...


Re:  #122. The Vulcanista

You are very kind.  (Are you sure I can&#039;t come with you on your vacation?)

:-)

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #121. B.N.D.</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s too much information&#8230;</p>
<p>Re:  #122. The Vulcanista</p>
<p>You are very kind.  (Are you sure I can&#8217;t come with you on your vacation?)</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#120

LOL!!!

I thought the possible misinterpretation of your goodnight to us was pretty damn funny, considering the &quot;discussion&quot; in the thread below!

Peace.  Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#120</p>
<p>LOL!!!</p>
<p>I thought the possible misinterpretation of your goodnight to us was pretty damn funny, considering the &#8220;discussion&#8221; in the thread below!</p>
<p>Peace.  Live long and prosper.<br />
The Vulcanista }:-|</p>
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		<title>By: British Naval Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>British Naval Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>120 arrrr...
well, I am wearing a dress....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>120 arrrr&#8230;<br />
well, I am wearing a dress&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap.  That didn&#039;t come out the way it sounded in my head.  I was calling all the other posters &quot;ladies&quot; (like Don Johnson did to his male co-workers as &quot;Crockett&quot; on &quot;Miami Vice&quot;).  It was DEFINITELY NOT intimating that Denise and Vulcanista are not ladies.

Whew.  Glad I caught that.  Sorry you two.  Vulcanista, can I come with you on your vaca?  Think I need one too...

Night.

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap.  That didn&#8217;t come out the way it sounded in my head.  I was calling all the other posters &#8220;ladies&#8221; (like Don Johnson did to his male co-workers as &#8220;Crockett&#8221; on &#8220;Miami Vice&#8221;).  It was DEFINITELY NOT intimating that Denise and Vulcanista are not ladies.</p>
<p>Whew.  Glad I caught that.  Sorry you two.  Vulcanista, can I come with you on your vaca?  Think I need one too&#8230;</p>
<p>Night.</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  #98 Denise and #103 Vulcanista

Vulcanista, you&#039;ll have to forgive Denise.  She was on Risa in the late 70&#039;s for a number of years.

Re:  #107 Denise

Maybe she wasn&#039;t sure of her position in stardom and his larger-than-life persona was intimidating.  Who knows.  You do raise an interesting question.

Goodnight, ladies.  (You too, Denise and Vulcanista!)   Hah!

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #98 Denise and #103 Vulcanista</p>
<p>Vulcanista, you&#8217;ll have to forgive Denise.  She was on Risa in the late 70&#8217;s for a number of years.</p>
<p>Re:  #107 Denise</p>
<p>Maybe she wasn&#8217;t sure of her position in stardom and his larger-than-life persona was intimidating.  Who knows.  You do raise an interesting question.</p>
<p>Goodnight, ladies.  (You too, Denise and Vulcanista!)   Hah!</p>
<p>kg</p>
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