Comments on: Star Trek IV Composer Dies at 83

By: Cornelius

Cornelius — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:20:11 +0000

I loved the Voyage Home soundtrack. I didn’t know he did Beneath the Planet of the Apes, another favorite of mine. RIP, Leonard.

By: Kirk's Girdle

Kirk's Girdle — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:53:46 +0000

Mr Rosenman had been suffering from Alzheimers for several years and cared for exclusively by his wife in their NYC residence. He is in a better place now.

By: GraniteTrek

GraniteTrek — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:36:24 +0000

I love his Animated LOTR soundtrack – probably the best part of the film.

By: Moonwatcher

Moonwatcher — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:27:29 +0000

My pleasure Horatio, I too am an “Apes purist”. I’m glad you could understand my rant with all those typos. : )

By: Horatio

Horatio — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:58:55 +0000

Thanks Moonwatcher. I was a big Apes fan back in the day but didn’t really like the way they ended Conquest and really didn’t like Battle. I guess I was a Planet of the Apes purist.

From what you tell me, I think I like the original ending better. It seems to fit better with the original Heston film but I guess I can understand the decision to veer off into alternate timeline with the hippy apes and humans at the end of Battle for the Planet of the Apes.

Thanks again!

By: Moonwatcher

Moonwatcher — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:43:09 +0000

•#67…Many rather bloody images were deleted after a pre-release print of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes was shown to a preview audience (all in the effort to maintain a “family picture”). Including a pre-title opening sequence involving police on night patrol shooting an escaped ape and discovering his body was covered with welts and bruises that were evidence of severe abuse (referred to in a later scene in the film). But the most grievous edit (in my mind) was during the final scene. After a much more brutally depicted riot, Caesar’s original victory speech was to have ended with, “: Where there is fire, there is smoke. And in that smoke, from this day forward, my people will crouch and conspire and plot and plan for the inevitable day of Man’s downfall – the day when he finally and self-destructively turns his weapons against his own kind. The day of the writing in the sky, when your cities lie buried under radioactive rubble! When the sea is a dead sea, and the land is a wasteland out of which I will lead my people from their captivity! And we will build our own cities in which there will be no place for humans except to serve our ends! And we shall found our own armies, our own religion, our own dynasty! And that day is upon you… NOW!” But the 20th century big wigs, and eventually the producer, changed it to include an awkward “equality” speech after the film’s completion. This is why the final shot is only of Caesar’s eyes and is of a grainy quality; the shot was just a cropped piece of footage from earlier in the film and Roddy McDowall was brought in the read additional lines, which were then edited into place and the film re-released. So now Moms and kids could walk away happy, without having nightmares later that night. This film is so in needed directors cut! Of course it would have slightly changed the course of the last film that followed it. ; )

By: THX-1138

THX-1138 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:55:25 +0000

By: Morn Speaks

Morn Speaks — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:51:53 +0000

It’s a real shame, there’s not a bad composer in Star Trek to speak of, and Rosenman is no exception.

By: Redjac

Redjac — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:57:10 +0000

#68 — Williams of the late 70’s and early 80’s yes…not current Williams.

By: BT

BT — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:43:29 +0000

Trek stars are disappearing…