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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;By Any Other Name&#8221; Remastered Preview Images</title>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-517538</link>
		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been talking to some people on youtube who&#039;ve done fan-made effects, asking them for permission to use their videos and try to put updated sounds to them to show cbs what they should be doing.


here&#039;s a rather crude sound demo i did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGCnkhh4ZG4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been talking to some people on youtube who&#8217;ve done fan-made effects, asking them for permission to use their videos and try to put updated sounds to them to show cbs what they should be doing.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s a rather crude sound demo i did:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGCnkhh4ZG4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGCnkhh4ZG4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-509093</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to spearhead a fan edit myself.  I&#039;m just to unorganized that it ia hard to make it materialize.  

I have the hardware though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to spearhead a fan edit myself.  I&#8217;m just to unorganized that it ia hard to make it materialize.  </p>
<p>I have the hardware though.</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-508353</link>
		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#161  Sean4000

And life&#039;s too short to see if any future &#039;extra&#039; remastering with perhaps another low-budget and excessive timescale will do any better...

So I look forward to having certain folks take all the eventual &#039;cleaned-up&#039; footage and &#039;fan edit&#039; it to a better all-round effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#161  Sean4000</p>
<p>And life&#8217;s too short to see if any future &#8216;extra&#8217; remastering with perhaps another low-budget and excessive timescale will do any better&#8230;</p>
<p>So I look forward to having certain folks take all the eventual &#8216;cleaned-up&#8217; footage and &#8216;fan edit&#8217; it to a better all-round effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-507691</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But reality is a sandwich I didn&#039;t order.  We&#039;ll have to live with this version for the next 40 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But reality is a sandwich I didn&#8217;t order.  We&#8217;ll have to live with this version for the next 40 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-507348</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what the artificial grain is supposed to make us think that this was the job they would have done in the 60s?

I bet they never even showed Bob Justman In A Mirror Darkly, Part II when it first came out.  Then we might have had one of the original members of the production on our side. 

Say what you want about the looks of the new Trek movie. I could live without it fitting in perfectly for a few reasons.  We have a good director. Scratch that a FANTASTIC director. Writers and producers that visit the site regularly  and like us; Rob Orci etc.  A cast that is worthy to succeed the legends.  Bruce looks nothing remotely like Hunter while everyone looks at least a good bit like their counterparts but that&#039;s minor. Very minor. And the biggest gem of all is that Paramount has so much faith in the film that they drowned the movie in budget, gave it a fantastic release data and viral campaign. ILM is doing the FX work for God&#039;s sake! The best FX house in the world has Trek XI! Hell yes! On the flip side TOS-R got progressively smaller in budget, less impressive and more whiney about what could have been.  I saw the DVD commentaries and had to mute it because all I heard was bitching and moaning. SEND THIS PROJECT STRAIGHT TO HELL. 

EdenFX got screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what the artificial grain is supposed to make us think that this was the job they would have done in the 60s?</p>
<p>I bet they never even showed Bob Justman In A Mirror Darkly, Part II when it first came out.  Then we might have had one of the original members of the production on our side. </p>
<p>Say what you want about the looks of the new Trek movie. I could live without it fitting in perfectly for a few reasons.  We have a good director. Scratch that a FANTASTIC director. Writers and producers that visit the site regularly  and like us; Rob Orci etc.  A cast that is worthy to succeed the legends.  Bruce looks nothing remotely like Hunter while everyone looks at least a good bit like their counterparts but that&#8217;s minor. Very minor. And the biggest gem of all is that Paramount has so much faith in the film that they drowned the movie in budget, gave it a fantastic release data and viral campaign. ILM is doing the FX work for God&#8217;s sake! The best FX house in the world has Trek XI! Hell yes! On the flip side TOS-R got progressively smaller in budget, less impressive and more whiney about what could have been.  I saw the DVD commentaries and had to mute it because all I heard was bitching and moaning. SEND THIS PROJECT STRAIGHT TO HELL. </p>
<p>EdenFX got screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, thinking back it was a nice Edenesque update but still you are so right when you said: &quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;and the backlash they got from one tiny improvement shows how little the “fans” actually enjoy the show.&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

Spockboy said &quot;this is a deformed hybrid&quot; I couldn&#039;t agree more.  

CBS-D honored a show hindered with budget issues with another low-budget hindered attempt.  Where does it end? From the way people talk about them and the &quot;budget&quot; you would think they can&#039;t keep the lights on and the grape sodas cool.  They simply hired a group of amateurs, gave them the keys to the TOS franchise and let them free.  They&#039;ve given us a mixed bag of work that we&#039;re expected to be over grateful for it and shell out 179.99 a season.  Sorry, not happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, thinking back it was a nice Edenesque update but still you are so right when you said: &#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;and the backlash they got from one tiny improvement shows how little the “fans” actually enjoy the show.&#8221;"&#8221;"</p>
<p>Spockboy said &#8220;this is a deformed hybrid&#8221; I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  </p>
<p>CBS-D honored a show hindered with budget issues with another low-budget hindered attempt.  Where does it end? From the way people talk about them and the &#8220;budget&#8221; you would think they can&#8217;t keep the lights on and the grape sodas cool.  They simply hired a group of amateurs, gave them the keys to the TOS franchise and let them free.  They&#8217;ve given us a mixed bag of work that we&#8217;re expected to be over grateful for it and shell out 179.99 a season.  Sorry, not happening.</p>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually liked the design they came up with for the tholian ships. but the quality of the animation was below shameful. and the backlash they got from one tiny improvement shows how little the &quot;fans&quot; actually enjoy the show.


as someone with no sense of nostalgia, i just want to watch the show and be able to forget when it was made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually liked the design they came up with for the tholian ships. but the quality of the animation was below shameful. and the backlash they got from one tiny improvement shows how little the &#8220;fans&#8221; actually enjoy the show.</p>
<p>as someone with no sense of nostalgia, i just want to watch the show and be able to forget when it was made.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-506945</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I loved the Enterprise TOS episode, CBS-D didn&#039;t have to take their Tholians.  the classic look is legendary and was completely thrown away.  Kilngons, kept the same. Romulans kept the same. Tholians, make it unrecognizable except for the threads. So, much for spirit of the show.  Maybe some more artificial grain can make it look better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I loved the Enterprise TOS episode, CBS-D didn&#8217;t have to take their Tholians.  the classic look is legendary and was completely thrown away.  Kilngons, kept the same. Romulans kept the same. Tholians, make it unrecognizable except for the threads. So, much for spirit of the show.  Maybe some more artificial grain can make it look better.</p>
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		<title>By: buddha</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, what makes that matte painting lookingso awesome is that it isn&#039;t &quot;digital&quot; ;) it was made with &quot;true love&quot; at least i cant believe it is pure digital form! Because thats impossible to make that way. You clearly see a lovely artistic impression in it which is only possible by hand.

Also @ The Tholian Web: YES that arrow things digitally looked dead, un-charming and just like a cyber piece of a every 90&#039;s sci-fi series.. no love, no design there is nothing. Also the same is for the &quot;bird of prey&quot; which is replaced by same style (no love there) and that extremly cool arrow looking full-chrome shiney spaceship thing. Which was replaced by also a modern un-lovely piece of digital crap. It looks like a capsule! The original looked like a cadillac of spaceship ! ...These things make me sad and they need to re-do it. Otherwise i will gonna do it myself anyway, someday in my life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, what makes that matte painting lookingso awesome is that it isn&#8217;t &#8220;digital&#8221; ;) it was made with &#8220;true love&#8221; at least i cant believe it is pure digital form! Because thats impossible to make that way. You clearly see a lovely artistic impression in it which is only possible by hand.</p>
<p>Also @ The Tholian Web: YES that arrow things digitally looked dead, un-charming and just like a cyber piece of a every 90&#8217;s sci-fi series.. no love, no design there is nothing. Also the same is for the &#8220;bird of prey&#8221; which is replaced by same style (no love there) and that extremly cool arrow looking full-chrome shiney spaceship thing. Which was replaced by also a modern un-lovely piece of digital crap. It looks like a capsule! The original looked like a cadillac of spaceship ! &#8230;These things make me sad and they need to re-do it. Otherwise i will gonna do it myself anyway, someday in my life!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/by-any-other-name-remastered-preview-images/comment-page-4/#comment-505540</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neo, where the hell have you been? We haven&#039;t spoken since Tholian web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, where the hell have you been? We haven&#8217;t spoken since Tholian web</p>
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