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	<title>Comments on: Ron Moore Visits Star Trek Set &#8211; Compares Abrams&#8217; Team To Bennett &amp; Meyer</title>
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		<title>By: Citizen Sane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen Sane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It certainly isa good thing he isn&#039;t involved, or it would be another yawn-fest just like post-Roddenberry ST-TNG, DS9, ST-V, Galactica and Bionic Woman. Why is this guy allowed to make Television programs and movies? His work is NOT very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly isa good thing he isn&#8217;t involved, or it would be another yawn-fest just like post-Roddenberry ST-TNG, DS9, ST-V, Galactica and Bionic Woman. Why is this guy allowed to make Television programs and movies? His work is NOT very good.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miles Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Herbie J Pilato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbie J Pilato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harve Bennett rescued the Trek franchise because he based his imagining of the films based on the mythology of the original series.

As long as everyone keeps to the spirit of the original Star Trek, everything is fine.  And that&#039;s why NOTHING was fine with Voyager, Enterprise and Deep Space Nine.  The latter was acceptable, if only in the last few seasons.  But it had little to do with what Star Trek is all about.  It was a very nice sci-fi show.  But it wasn&#039;t Star Trek.  And as far as the Next Generation is concerned, my favorite season was the first season.  That&#039;s right - the first season.  It all went down hill after that, and became a soap opera in space, when all the characters ever did was talk, talk, talk, talk.

The wonder of the original series was never seen beyond itself until nor since the Wrath of Kahn.

That all said, I agree with Moore and his assessment of a fresh star for the franchise.

Herbie J Pilato
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harve Bennett rescued the Trek franchise because he based his imagining of the films based on the mythology of the original series.</p>
<p>As long as everyone keeps to the spirit of the original Star Trek, everything is fine.  And that&#8217;s why NOTHING was fine with Voyager, Enterprise and Deep Space Nine.  The latter was acceptable, if only in the last few seasons.  But it had little to do with what Star Trek is all about.  It was a very nice sci-fi show.  But it wasn&#8217;t Star Trek.  And as far as the Next Generation is concerned, my favorite season was the first season.  That&#8217;s right &#8211; the first season.  It all went down hill after that, and became a soap opera in space, when all the characters ever did was talk, talk, talk, talk.</p>
<p>The wonder of the original series was never seen beyond itself until nor since the Wrath of Kahn.</p>
<p>That all said, I agree with Moore and his assessment of a fresh star for the franchise.</p>
<p>Herbie J Pilato<br />
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		<title>By: Garovorkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garovorkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#185 but he was never dull and he did entertain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#185 but he was never dull and he did entertain</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#146: Irwin Allen mostly gave us a lot of groans. 

All of his series started off great, but then rapidly degenerated into childish, silly romps that mocked the tenants of believability... and he knew it but didn&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#146: Irwin Allen mostly gave us a lot of groans. </p>
<p>All of his series started off great, but then rapidly degenerated into childish, silly romps that mocked the tenants of believability&#8230; and he knew it but didn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Grace Lee Whitney&#039;s coming back as Rand for this flick. No? Hubba hubba. I hope it&#039;s PG-13!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Grace Lee Whitney&#8217;s coming back as Rand for this flick. No? Hubba hubba. I hope it&#8217;s PG-13!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Poopey face(formerly known as Closettrekker)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Poopey face(formerly known as Closettrekker)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#181---Who said it was a condition of his contract? I must have missed that comment. 
I listened to Nimoy say that he only chose to come back for TWOK because Spock was going to die and that it was a well-written death scene. 
Test audiences flipped out at Spock&#039;s death, and the &quot;mind-meld scene&quot; was edited in to leave the door open. After the overwhelming success of TWOK, Nimoy says he had a change of heart over audiences&#039; love for the character, and the opprotunity to direct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#181&#8212;Who said it was a condition of his contract? I must have missed that comment.<br />
I listened to Nimoy say that he only chose to come back for TWOK because Spock was going to die and that it was a well-written death scene.<br />
Test audiences flipped out at Spock&#8217;s death, and the &#8220;mind-meld scene&#8221; was edited in to leave the door open. After the overwhelming success of TWOK, Nimoy says he had a change of heart over audiences&#8217; love for the character, and the opprotunity to direct.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#179

Do you really enjoy the novels? The first two were pretty entertaining (Ashes of Eden, The Return) but they quickly turned into convoluted nonsense for me. I try not to think of it as pure ego, but the way Bill makes the entire universe literally revolve around his character is just a bit much. It&#039;s kind of like if every single episode of TOS had just been about Kirk. Back in the day we at least got a few McCoy &amp; Spock episodes thrown in the mix. 

It would be more forgiveable if the James T Kirk in those novels resembled my childhood hero. Or if he didn&#039;t write every other character as a stubborn fool. Of course, I guess that blame can rest equally with the Reeves-Stevens, who probably write the majority of the non-Kirk dialogue, and should darn well know better.

Also, where did you hear he pitched the idea of Kirk&#039;s survival during Generations? I don&#039;t recall reading about that in Movie Memories, and he discusses Generations in great detail in there.</description>
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<p>Do you really enjoy the novels? The first two were pretty entertaining (Ashes of Eden, The Return) but they quickly turned into convoluted nonsense for me. I try not to think of it as pure ego, but the way Bill makes the entire universe literally revolve around his character is just a bit much. It&#8217;s kind of like if every single episode of TOS had just been about Kirk. Back in the day we at least got a few McCoy &amp; Spock episodes thrown in the mix. </p>
<p>It would be more forgiveable if the James T Kirk in those novels resembled my childhood hero. Or if he didn&#8217;t write every other character as a stubborn fool. Of course, I guess that blame can rest equally with the Reeves-Stevens, who probably write the majority of the non-Kirk dialogue, and should darn well know better.</p>
<p>Also, where did you hear he pitched the idea of Kirk&#8217;s survival during Generations? I don&#8217;t recall reading about that in Movie Memories, and he discusses Generations in great detail in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, it was never a condition of Nimoy&#039;s contract that Spock die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, it was never a condition of Nimoy&#8217;s contract that Spock die.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Spock, there were a few factors at play.

1) Nimoy realized that he was having too much fun with the gang, so he began to have some thoughts regarding a resurrection of some sort, so just to throw out a few breadcrumbs, they cooked up the mind meld with McCoy, &quot;Remember&quot;, (prompting De Kelley to ask Nimoy, &quot;You sonuvabitch, you&#039;re coming back, aren&#039;t you?&quot;), not really having any idea what any of it meant at the time, but what the hell, they&#039;ll figure something out later, in the event Nimoy actually wants to come back.

2) The initial test screenings of TWOK didn&#039;t have the shots of Spock&#039;s casket.  For all the audience knew, it burned up in the atmosphere of Genesis, and that was it, Spock was dead, dead, dead.  And the audience left like they were leaving a funeral.  Harve Bennett knew that if this went out as is, there wasn&#039;t gonna be any repeat business for this film, and the Star Trek movie franchise was gonna be as dead as Spock if they didn&#039;t throw the audience some sort of bone indicating that Spock was coming back in the next one (the benefit of having a television guy running the thing -- he was able to look at what was good for the series, not just the current film, which is where Nick Meyer&#039;s blind spot was, and still is to a certain extent).  So, with the addition of some second unit stuff of the photon tube sitting amongst the foilage, and voila! anticipation for a sequel is created, and the future of the franchise is assured, at least for one more picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Spock, there were a few factors at play.</p>
<p>1) Nimoy realized that he was having too much fun with the gang, so he began to have some thoughts regarding a resurrection of some sort, so just to throw out a few breadcrumbs, they cooked up the mind meld with McCoy, &#8220;Remember&#8221;, (prompting De Kelley to ask Nimoy, &#8220;You sonuvabitch, you&#8217;re coming back, aren&#8217;t you?&#8221;), not really having any idea what any of it meant at the time, but what the hell, they&#8217;ll figure something out later, in the event Nimoy actually wants to come back.</p>
<p>2) The initial test screenings of TWOK didn&#8217;t have the shots of Spock&#8217;s casket.  For all the audience knew, it burned up in the atmosphere of Genesis, and that was it, Spock was dead, dead, dead.  And the audience left like they were leaving a funeral.  Harve Bennett knew that if this went out as is, there wasn&#8217;t gonna be any repeat business for this film, and the Star Trek movie franchise was gonna be as dead as Spock if they didn&#8217;t throw the audience some sort of bone indicating that Spock was coming back in the next one (the benefit of having a television guy running the thing &#8212; he was able to look at what was good for the series, not just the current film, which is where Nick Meyer&#8217;s blind spot was, and still is to a certain extent).  So, with the addition of some second unit stuff of the photon tube sitting amongst the foilage, and voila! anticipation for a sequel is created, and the future of the franchise is assured, at least for one more picture.</p>
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