It’s over.

I wish he had been in the film. It would’ve been nice for him to have one last shot at playing the character. But, The Undiscovered Country should have been the last film with Kirk…IMHO.

Thank you. All I’ll say in summation is that I now consider this to be a closed issue. I do not believe Shatner is going to be in the movie. But he should’ve been. (Yes, it could’ve been done, without devoting an entire film to explaining it. I’d have even settled for a pre-Kirk death flashback, perhaps Spock recalling their final meeting.) And it irks the hell out of me that J.J. made comments early on insinuating that Shatner might be in it. To say that it got A LOT of hopes up that the 14 year old bad taste of Generations would finally be wiped away from fandom would be a serious understatement. There was an opportunity for a REAL torch passing here – one that Bond fans, Batman fans, and even Superman fans have never had, since those stories usually don’t deal with time travel. A poster showing Shatner and Nimoy’s faces in the background against a starfield, with the young new cast standing front and center, would’ve been awesome, and aroused more interest in theaters than the somewhat bland posters produced thus far. Nimoy will get that chance, but Shatner won’t. Oh f*cking well.

All that remains now is for us to eventually find out why Shatner wasn’t in the movie. Awhile back, Roberto Orci made some VERY intriguing statements on this very site to the effect that he remembers exactly what happened when the new movie team pitched its idea to Shatner, and that he (Orci) might even write about it one day. As I said, pretty intriguing stuff, and it seems highly likely that we fans know little at this point of what went on behind the scenes. But it’ll all come out eventually. Then and only then can we decide for ourselves who (if anyone) was in the wrong.

Yes, I am still looking forward to the movie. Yes, I still want it to be good and be a success. Contrary to opinion, I’ve never been a ‘Shatner or nothing’ fan, but I have a preference. And judging by the passionate reaction and the polls here, yes – Shatner appearing in the movie WAS preferred by about 2 to 1. But I’ll stil be there next May. I love Leonard Nimoy. I love Star Trek. And I was even a big J.J. Abrams fan before his association with this was even announced. Just like you, I’ve got my fingers crossed.

We gotta get you some soap, man… bad poopey, ick

Oh really?? Thanks so much!! I had no idea! Wow.

What about Santa, is he real?

Calm down… you are the one talking about Shatner being dead. For all I know you are confused. Need me to give you your quote again?
And what’s a “super”? And is it “they” or “we”?

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

A little touchy there, Mr. Bob.

Oh really?? Thanks so much!! I had no idea! Wow.

What about Santa, is he real?

Probably. I’m sure he thought that he was being polite in not publicly ruling it out from the beginning, but we all end up in situations sometimes where our good intentions actually backfire. That is part of life. You never know how someone else will interpret your actions, and before you know it, you’ve said or done something you wish you could take back. It is really sad that this has become divisive. By allowing it to be such an emotional issue for some fans, it is really clouding the fact that we actually have a new Star Trek movie to look forward to. It is a shame that people are not united, in some cases, in rejoicing about that. Instead, there are those who will find any excuse to hate it, simply because of the Shatner issue (which never should have been laid at the doorstep of JJ Abrams at all). Anyway, outside of places like this, I don’t think anyone really cares, and I wish that everyone would just put this into rational perspective and move on.