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	<title>Comments on: Fuller: Gay Characters Considered For Voyager</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have time to police this so i am closing it down.

a discussion about if and how trek could deal with gay characters is one thing. However, this is not a place to flame any group of people.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have time to police this so i am closing it down.</p>
<p>a discussion about if and how trek could deal with gay characters is one thing. However, this is not a place to flame any group of people.</p>
<p>This thread is closed</p>
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		<title>By: Izbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>212. &quot;Yes No. 42 - Good bye Trek &amp; Disney both&quot;

Just how many log-on names do you have going on on this thread? 
&quot;its just don’t work for Star Trek!&quot; is essentially what you said (in broken english) as #5. 8472 - &quot;No No No No No No No No No and No! its just dont work for Trek!&quot; I assume you are also the person who posted as &quot;Good Bye to Star Trek&quot; earlier (since removed). Am I missing any?

Go troll somewhere else, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>212. &#8220;Yes No. 42 &#8211; Good bye Trek &amp; Disney both&#8221;</p>
<p>Just how many log-on names do you have going on on this thread?<br />
&#8220;its just don’t work for Star Trek!&#8221; is essentially what you said (in broken english) as #5. 8472 &#8211; &#8220;No No No No No No No No No and No! its just dont work for Trek!&#8221; I assume you are also the person who posted as &#8220;Good Bye to Star Trek&#8221; earlier (since removed). Am I missing any?</p>
<p>Go troll somewhere else, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Green-Blooded-Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green-Blooded-Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is getting a bit out of hand. Now scripture is being quoted, as though that archaic medieval piece of superstitious toilet paper holds any water with most intelligent people anymore (except maybe those that still look up into the sky and think the sun is god, too). If you&#039;re going to bring god to the table as a &quot;defense&quot; for why you should be allowed to hate another human being, at least pander to all the gods. Invoke Shiva and Zeus while you&#039;re at it.

And try to remember, your god was the &quot;prince of peace&quot;, so follow your own rhetoric and be peaceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is getting a bit out of hand. Now scripture is being quoted, as though that archaic medieval piece of superstitious toilet paper holds any water with most intelligent people anymore (except maybe those that still look up into the sky and think the sun is god, too). If you&#8217;re going to bring god to the table as a &#8220;defense&#8221; for why you should be allowed to hate another human being, at least pander to all the gods. Invoke Shiva and Zeus while you&#8217;re at it.</p>
<p>And try to remember, your god was the &#8220;prince of peace&#8221;, so follow your own rhetoric and be peaceful.</p>
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		<title>By: star trackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>star trackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#211 -Thank you. The voice of common sense is one rarely heard these days.  Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#211 -Thank you. The voice of common sense is one rarely heard these days.  Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Merat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#223 
   As opposed the horrific things done by people who called themselves humanists?  Neither group can play the innocent in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#223<br />
   As opposed the horrific things done by people who called themselves humanists?  Neither group can play the innocent in this.</p>
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		<title>By: utterlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>utterlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#219 - &quot;Being gay is just as bad as simply telling a lie. &quot;

Oh cheers for that. Telling a lie is a choice. Being gay isn&#039;t. You&#039;re gay or your not, but it&#039;s not a choice.

#220 - &quot;Two things have really upset me tonight, some peoples attitudes on here, and the washing machine leeking downstairs and soaking the Kitchen. Call me dull, boring etc etc but can’t people just accept all and get along?&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#219 &#8211; &#8220;Being gay is just as bad as simply telling a lie. &#8221;</p>
<p>Oh cheers for that. Telling a lie is a choice. Being gay isn&#8217;t. You&#8217;re gay or your not, but it&#8217;s not a choice.</p>
<p>#220 &#8211; &#8220;Two things have really upset me tonight, some peoples attitudes on here, and the washing machine leeking downstairs and soaking the Kitchen. Call me dull, boring etc etc but can’t people just accept all and get along?&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Mosher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Mosher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spare me the religious trappings. When we look at history at the horrific things christians have done in the name of their god it sickens me that they want to put those ideals into Star Trek. And obviously Anthony isn&#039;t checking these messages. Do you need help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spare me the religious trappings. When we look at history at the horrific things christians have done in the name of their god it sickens me that they want to put those ideals into Star Trek. And obviously Anthony isn&#8217;t checking these messages. Do you need help?</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>219:

&quot;Being gay is just as bad as simply telling a lie&quot;?

Way to go with the embracing, there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>219:</p>
<p>&#8220;Being gay is just as bad as simply telling a lie&#8221;?</p>
<p>Way to go with the embracing, there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Roddenberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost Roddenberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all from 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_characters_in_the_Star_Trek_universe

In 1987, series creator Gene Roddenberry stated that there would be gay characters in The Next Generation

&quot;It is entirely fitting that gays and lesbians will appear unobtrusively aboard the Enterprise — neither objects of pity nor melodramatic attention.&quot;
		-Leonard Nimoy on LGBT in Star Trek 

&quot;Yes, there&#039;s certainly some of that—certainly with love overtones. Deep love. The only difference being, the Greek ideal—we never suggested in the series—physical love between the two. But it&#039;s the—we certainly had the feeling that the affection was sufficient for that, if that were the particular style of the 23rd century.&quot;  
		 -Gene Roddenberry on K/S

&quot;It&#039;s the 24th century. By that time nobody gives a s**t! It&#039;s an issue of the 20th century and maybe the 19th century, but it has nothing to do with the 24th century. By that time it&#039;s your choice of whoever you want.&quot;
		-Herbert Wright on LGBT in Star Trek: The Next Generation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all from<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_characters_in_the_Star_Trek_universe" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_characters_in_the_Star_Trek_universe</a></p>
<p>In 1987, series creator Gene Roddenberry stated that there would be gay characters in The Next Generation</p>
<p>&#8220;It is entirely fitting that gays and lesbians will appear unobtrusively aboard the Enterprise — neither objects of pity nor melodramatic attention.&#8221;<br />
		-Leonard Nimoy on LGBT in Star Trek </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, there&#8217;s certainly some of that—certainly with love overtones. Deep love. The only difference being, the Greek ideal—we never suggested in the series—physical love between the two. But it&#8217;s the—we certainly had the feeling that the affection was sufficient for that, if that were the particular style of the 23rd century.&#8221;<br />
		 -Gene Roddenberry on K/S</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the 24th century. By that time nobody gives a s**t! It&#8217;s an issue of the 20th century and maybe the 19th century, but it has nothing to do with the 24th century. By that time it&#8217;s your choice of whoever you want.&#8221;<br />
		-Herbert Wright on LGBT in Star Trek: The Next Generation</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things have really upset me tonight, some peoples attitudes on here, and the washing machine leeking downstairs and soaking the Kitchen. Call me dull, boring etc etc but can&#039;t people just accept all and get along?</description>
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