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	<title>Comments on: Cho: Star Trek More Mature Than Star Wars</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy McHugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy McHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it all back, although I like Star Trek better, I have to admit that Star Wars is stll VASTLY better than the TOXIC Titan AE!  I LOATHE that space flick because a spaceship destoryed Earth in the FIRST PLACE!  The authors wanted the Drej to be &quot;unstoppable&quot; at first, only cuz they are &quot;pure energy,&quot; don&#039;t make me laugh!  The EMPire in Star Wars is far more impressive than the Drej and would squash them with the might of their second Death Star, an incomplete yet fully armed and operational battle station!  DS2 can fire every few minutes, the Drej Ship cannot fire that often, so DS2 would win, even without the FORCE due to superior tactical advantage alone.

Even the UFP Starfleet froom Star Trek would WIN an all-out war against the Drej!  The Enterprise coulld BEAT the Drej Mothership by outflanking it!  LISTEN UP, pure energy and the ability to blow up planets both pale in comparison next to the power of the FORCE that the Jedi use!

DEATH to Titan AE TOXICITY! Long Live Star Trek and The Lion King!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it all back, although I like Star Trek better, I have to admit that Star Wars is stll VASTLY better than the TOXIC Titan AE!  I LOATHE that space flick because a spaceship destoryed Earth in the FIRST PLACE!  The authors wanted the Drej to be &#8220;unstoppable&#8221; at first, only cuz they are &#8220;pure energy,&#8221; don&#8217;t make me laugh!  The EMPire in Star Wars is far more impressive than the Drej and would squash them with the might of their second Death Star, an incomplete yet fully armed and operational battle station!  DS2 can fire every few minutes, the Drej Ship cannot fire that often, so DS2 would win, even without the FORCE due to superior tactical advantage alone.</p>
<p>Even the UFP Starfleet froom Star Trek would WIN an all-out war against the Drej!  The Enterprise coulld BEAT the Drej Mothership by outflanking it!  LISTEN UP, pure energy and the ability to blow up planets both pale in comparison next to the power of the FORCE that the Jedi use!</p>
<p>DEATH to Titan AE TOXICITY! Long Live Star Trek and The Lion King!</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy McHugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy McHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek teaches hope for the future, and we can only speculate on the future.  Star Wars sometimes claims to be based on factual events in another galaxy, a filthy lie.  When fiction says its fiction, even if focusing on issues of real-life, like Star Trek, then it is NOT lying.  However, when something that is fiction like Star Wars says that it is real when it is NOT, then it is LYING!  Naboo&#039;s core is proof that Star Wars is ah fantasy because a living planet would need a molten core to generate a magnetosphere to protect its atmosphere from a parent sun.  Planets with solid cool cores lose their atmosphers tro steller winds because there is no amgnetoshphere to protect it.  Naboo has no molten or even totally solid core for a terrestiral planet, but a swixx-cheeze like core with oceans and sea monsters.  Naboo was thought up efven after we learned the scienc e of planet cores!  Humans living a long time ago and a far off galaxy without time travel to get them tere is the ABSOLUTE PITS!  The X-Wings may have BARELY beaten the Death Star, buut they would be eaten up by the BUGLE SNACK-SHAPED PLANET KILLER from The Doomsday Machine (TOS) with zero chance of victory against that thing!  The superior Planet Killer DESTROYS PLANETS too, just like the inferior Death Star did!   The so-called &quot;Force&quot; does not exist for there is no such thing as God or Devil, no Heaven or Hell, just the Universe and cosmic evolution!  Any star faring civilizations long time ago or in a galaxy far, far away would all be ALIEN and look VERY different from us!  My slogan is &quot;May the Force be Abandoned, Come Sail Away, Baby!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek teaches hope for the future, and we can only speculate on the future.  Star Wars sometimes claims to be based on factual events in another galaxy, a filthy lie.  When fiction says its fiction, even if focusing on issues of real-life, like Star Trek, then it is NOT lying.  However, when something that is fiction like Star Wars says that it is real when it is NOT, then it is LYING!  Naboo&#8217;s core is proof that Star Wars is ah fantasy because a living planet would need a molten core to generate a magnetosphere to protect its atmosphere from a parent sun.  Planets with solid cool cores lose their atmosphers tro steller winds because there is no amgnetoshphere to protect it.  Naboo has no molten or even totally solid core for a terrestiral planet, but a swixx-cheeze like core with oceans and sea monsters.  Naboo was thought up efven after we learned the scienc e of planet cores!  Humans living a long time ago and a far off galaxy without time travel to get them tere is the ABSOLUTE PITS!  The X-Wings may have BARELY beaten the Death Star, buut they would be eaten up by the BUGLE SNACK-SHAPED PLANET KILLER from The Doomsday Machine (TOS) with zero chance of victory against that thing!  The superior Planet Killer DESTROYS PLANETS too, just like the inferior Death Star did!   The so-called &#8220;Force&#8221; does not exist for there is no such thing as God or Devil, no Heaven or Hell, just the Universe and cosmic evolution!  Any star faring civilizations long time ago or in a galaxy far, far away would all be ALIEN and look VERY different from us!  My slogan is &#8220;May the Force be Abandoned, Come Sail Away, Baby!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: COMPASSONATE GOD</title>
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		<dc:creator>COMPASSONATE GOD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, jeeze!

Like whatever you want; surely the members on both sides realize they are not going to convince the other side of &quot;their&quot; franchise&#039;s superiority! 

BTW, I like PARTS of both franchises; some parts were classic material--others--absolute trash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, jeeze!</p>
<p>Like whatever you want; surely the members on both sides realize they are not going to convince the other side of &#8220;their&#8221; franchise&#8217;s superiority! </p>
<p>BTW, I like PARTS of both franchises; some parts were classic material&#8211;others&#8211;absolute trash.</p>
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		<title>By: 4 8 15 16 23 42</title>
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		<dc:creator>4 8 15 16 23 42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#84 - I&#039;ve been on a few Star Wars comments boards, and they tend to be pretty brutal on criticism of Star Trek, in my experience. I have to make the same point everywhere, it seems....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84 &#8211; I&#8217;ve been on a few Star Wars comments boards, and they tend to be pretty brutal on criticism of Star Trek, in my experience. I have to make the same point everywhere, it seems&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering... how would this discussion go if we were on a SW - site?...

Anyway. I like ST a lot more, that&#039;s why I am here. SW lost me with Episode 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering&#8230; how would this discussion go if we were on a SW &#8211; site?&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway. I like ST a lot more, that&#8217;s why I am here. SW lost me with Episode 1.</p>
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		<title>By: 4 8 15 16 23 42</title>
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		<dc:creator>4 8 15 16 23 42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica Reimagined, Blade Runner, Lost... I love Sci Fi TV shows in all sorts of incarnations, but each one for its own traits. I notice how they&#039;re different, and I enjoy reflecting on how they differ, but comparing them for the purpose of making value judgments is just lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica Reimagined, Blade Runner, Lost&#8230; I love Sci Fi TV shows in all sorts of incarnations, but each one for its own traits. I notice how they&#8217;re different, and I enjoy reflecting on how they differ, but comparing them for the purpose of making value judgments is just lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Garovorkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garovorkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 actually your right on the money here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 actually your right on the money here.</p>
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		<title>By: LostOnNCC1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>LostOnNCC1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, but it&#039;s apples to oranges.


Star Wars is great because it is basically every story ever told (Campbell Cycle) only told in such a great way that you can&#039;t help but like it alot. It has everything: Good and Evil. Corruption and Redemption. Peace and War. Young and Old. This is the same reason people like Lord of the Rings, by the way.

Star Trek is morality tales, and  usually appeals for the way it makes you think, not how you feel. 

At least, that&#039;s my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but it&#8217;s apples to oranges.</p>
<p>Star Wars is great because it is basically every story ever told (Campbell Cycle) only told in such a great way that you can&#8217;t help but like it alot. It has everything: Good and Evil. Corruption and Redemption. Peace and War. Young and Old. This is the same reason people like Lord of the Rings, by the way.</p>
<p>Star Trek is morality tales, and  usually appeals for the way it makes you think, not how you feel. </p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not taking a preference in the Trek vs. Wars thing here (I love them both in different ways).  But the release of the original Star Wars movie 31 years ago (has it been THAT long) did prompt Paramount to ditch their aborted &quot;Phase II&quot; TV series in favor of what became &quot;Star Trek the Motion Picture.&quot;  So, even Trek owes a debt of gratitude to the Force!  Not to mention Lucas&#039; company, ILM, doing the best FX jobs on the early movie series (Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home).  So, to me, the relationship of both franchises is more a symbiotic one rather than one of bitter rivalry.  And of course, the whole &quot;Vengeance of Khan&quot; title change to &quot;Wrath of Khan&quot; out of deference to (the soon-to-be changed) &quot;Revenge of the Jedi.&quot;  It&#039;s clear the franchises gave each other a wide berth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not taking a preference in the Trek vs. Wars thing here (I love them both in different ways).  But the release of the original Star Wars movie 31 years ago (has it been THAT long) did prompt Paramount to ditch their aborted &#8220;Phase II&#8221; TV series in favor of what became &#8220;Star Trek the Motion Picture.&#8221;  So, even Trek owes a debt of gratitude to the Force!  Not to mention Lucas&#8217; company, ILM, doing the best FX jobs on the early movie series (Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home).  So, to me, the relationship of both franchises is more a symbiotic one rather than one of bitter rivalry.  And of course, the whole &#8220;Vengeance of Khan&#8221; title change to &#8220;Wrath of Khan&#8221; out of deference to (the soon-to-be changed) &#8220;Revenge of the Jedi.&#8221;  It&#8217;s clear the franchises gave each other a wide berth.</p>
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		<title>By: colonyearth</title>
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		<dc:creator>colonyearth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, I hope they release something seriously good and new about the new film soon, because these &quot;fans&quot; are all showly turning on each other.  Please, people  let&#039;s speak to each other in respectful discussion, and stop slamming each other.  

People have differing opinions.  SW and ST were and are both iconic parts of our modern culture.  Both were saying things that the creators and writers felt needed to be said, couching modern issues in the tales of sci-fi; which is what sci-fi does best.  Even the terribly made SW prequels were trying to say something.

Let us not denegrate SW just to prop up ST.  They&#039;re both valid visions and yes, they&#039;re both science fiction and fantasy...though mostly science fiction.  If you want to make fun of the prequels because they were terrible movies, then do so on those grounds..because, well, they were.

I, as many can be, am sometimes a bit too excitable about things or my views, but I do try to remain conscious of the fact that I&#039;m having a discussion,  a sharing of ideas or perspectives.  When I fail, I always try to come back and set things right.

I would hope that we, as Trek fans (of all sci-fi fans) would be more mindful of this.  

CE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, I hope they release something seriously good and new about the new film soon, because these &#8220;fans&#8221; are all showly turning on each other.  Please, people  let&#8217;s speak to each other in respectful discussion, and stop slamming each other.  </p>
<p>People have differing opinions.  SW and ST were and are both iconic parts of our modern culture.  Both were saying things that the creators and writers felt needed to be said, couching modern issues in the tales of sci-fi; which is what sci-fi does best.  Even the terribly made SW prequels were trying to say something.</p>
<p>Let us not denegrate SW just to prop up ST.  They&#8217;re both valid visions and yes, they&#8217;re both science fiction and fantasy&#8230;though mostly science fiction.  If you want to make fun of the prequels because they were terrible movies, then do so on those grounds..because, well, they were.</p>
<p>I, as many can be, am sometimes a bit too excitable about things or my views, but I do try to remain conscious of the fact that I&#8217;m having a discussion,  a sharing of ideas or perspectives.  When I fail, I always try to come back and set things right.</p>
<p>I would hope that we, as Trek fans (of all sci-fi fans) would be more mindful of this.  </p>
<p>CE</p>
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