Comments on: Abrams: Star Trek True To Roddenberry’s Vision

By: krikzil

krikzil — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:19:58 +0000

By: Xai ∞

Xai ∞ — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:00:13 +0000

Sorry, I don’t subscribe to that line of thought.

By: krikzil

krikzil — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:28:04 +0000

Hmm…I still think that ANY perceived negative comment takes an unrealistic amount of heat from some posters. And as for the Trolls that bother you so much, all I can say is that responding TO THEM only encourages them. It’s what they live for. If they are bad enough, I’m sure the moderator will take care of it.

By: Xai

Xai — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:49:02 +0000

163. krikzil – April 21, 2008
” However, I don’t agree that being hyper-critical is automatically somehow not “civil”.
Sorry, you are blending my quotes again. I did not say someone who’s being critical is automatically not “Civil”. We do have some debates that are civil. I am talking about the trolls with off the wall statements. Those are not opinions, those are bold-faced lies and frankly those DO bother me when it involves the people trying their best to give us a great movie. They don’t deserve that.

By: krikzil

krikzil — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:54:56 +0000

Geez…I can’t type tonight. It should have read:

“…automatically someHOW not “civil”. (Our oh so politically correct …”

By: krikzil

krikzil — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:51:36 +0000

“I want this movie to work, apparently you do too. But I cannot see where some posters think that being hyper-critical is a benefit or just making things up helps them express their FEAR over something they love being screwed up. It doesn’t reason out.I expect differences in opinion and debate when it comes to Trek, but I also expect some civil attitudes from those bright people you described and they have the right to expect the same from me.”

Hmm…I’m not really sure how to respond. Yes, I always want any Trek to succeed whether it’s my cup of tea or not. However, I don’t agree that being hyper-critical is automatically somewho not “civil”. (Are oh so politically correct society has cost us on a certain level I think.) Oh, I’ve got no use for posters attacking each other on a personal level but opinions on Trek are fair game. And artists, be they actors, writers or producers, are also subject to being judged for their body of work.

“For Star Trek fans, we can sometimes be a pitiful example of IDIC.”

Great post Horatio. The religion analogy really fits and yes, it’s sad that we can’t seem to live up to IDIC. I’ve watched the various ‘factions’ for gosh, 30+ yes and still don’t really get it. Oh, I have some very strong opinions about various aspects of Trek but that’s all they are, MY opinions. I never expect everyone to agree with me. But believe me, so far the sparring over this new movie seems very mild. (The K/S wars or TNG years were really something else!) Personally, I have no problem with people who vent or complain. Heh, where else can they go? No one else cares about Trek like we all do. And I don’t really understand why some folks let the kevetching (sp?) bother them so much. It’s only opinions; they have power only if you let them.

By: demon barber of starfleet

demon barber of starfleet — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:16:44 +0000

It better honor Trek for the very vocal fans. ‘Cause I’m gonna become a lot more vocal if they screw it up.

By: I Am Morg Not Eymorg

I Am Morg Not Eymorg — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:03:05 +0000

160:

I used to wear briefs all the time until I developed sciatica. Then I switch to boxers and that brought blessed relief.

Oh wait…you were saying that factiously. Never mind. :)

By: Horatio

Horatio — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:48:34 +0000

Geez.

Ever get the feeling sometimes that these canon vs reboot arguments are about as substantive as the boxers vs briefs debate?

Its fascinating how Trek fandom has managed to fracture itself into splinter groups. Niners vs TNG vs V’ger vs Enterprise vs TOS, Trekkers vs Trekkies and even then there are factions with factions. Its almost like freakin religion now – My church is better than yours and if you don’t believe the same as me you’ll go to hell.

For Star Trek fans, we can sometimes be a pitiful example of IDIC.

By: Commodore Shaggy

Commodore Shaggy — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:07:28 +0000

It’s good to hear that there will be a new level of action in ST. I don’t think it detracts from the original at all, seeing how the pilot that worked was the one with more action in it. Besides TNG was more about technobabble than TOS was, of course TNG knew how to combine technobabble with enough action and intrigue that made it interesting for many in the masses.