Comments on: BSG Preview: “Escape Velocity”

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By: sean

sean — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:17:46 +0000

#77

Right, but when she hit his head into the mirror it still looked like he could have done it himself. Last week’s ep made it look impossible that he could have been holding himself up. His arms and legs were hanging very nearly limp. It just seemed like the most blatant evidence that she’s another entity outside his mind.

I’ve also considered that Gaeta might be a Cylon. We never really got an answer as to what it was Baltar whispered to him when he stabbed him with the pen, but it was enough to provoke him. Then of course, Gaeta was the only one that blatantly lied at the trial to ensure Baltar would be convicted. There’s something there we haven’t heard yet.

By: Garovorkin

Garovorkin — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:28:38 +0000

#76 Sean Its not the first time, because early in season one Six Slammed Baltar’s head into a Bathroom Mirror. I think she is inside him as separate conscience entity no question. She could be a line to someone else pulling Baltar’s strings? Yeah she does tend to have information that he does not have or could not know, Six always gives him the right info and that is very curious. It was one of the things that made me consider the possibility that he might in fact be a Cylon. When Baltar tried to destroy the the photo image evidence of him sabotaging the computer system on Caprica, Mr Gaida of course proved it rather conveniently to be a forgery.(i also wondered whether Gaida might be a cylon agent one of the final five at one point). What if the photo was not a forgery and that was another copy of Baltar, what if he is the 5th Cylon, I know I said it obvious. what if the obvious answer is the true answer? Again this one possibility.

By: sean

sean — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:12:04 +0000

Is this the first time we’ve had actual confirmation of the Virtual Six’s physical presence? I know she’s previously demonstrated knowledge that Baltar couldn’t possibly possess, but this episode made it really clear she was actually holding him up when the guard was repeatedly beating him.

By: Garovorkin

Garovorkin — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:00:40 +0000

The show begs the question of what is the the agenda of the final 5? are they saviors or ticking time bombs waiting to detonate and take down the coloniels. This one could go either direction or could they be the reincarnation of the original machine Gods of Kobol The coloniel’s journey at times suggest the pattern of a computer program in operations. Again this is only one of many possibilities.

By: Garovorkin

Garovorkin — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:44:55 +0000

#73 I think when they get to earth, they might find humans probably the remnants of the 13th tribe, fallen far, thats one possibility. The 13th tribe left Kobol and probably endured hardship and when they got to earth has lost much of what they had and upon arriving at earth fell even further and lost technology and knowledge that they did have, or another possibilities is that they arrive at earth of thousands of years into future. again they find a remnant human population that has fallen far because of some war or conflict ,maybe thy like the coloniels and the cylons had their own machine rebellion,who knows. They find out that their history was in error that in fact mankind came from earth, went out to the stars colonized Kobol, then abandoned Kobol, to go out to the 12 worlds and some ,the 13th tribe, returned to earth. My machine theory could still tie into this scenario as well.

Im not convinced that Baltar is he 5th Cylon, that on also smacks a little to the obvious side of the equations. Ellen might still be in the realm of possibility on this one. It’s tough with all the clues mixed in with the Red Herrings and other dead ends Dingos Kidney’s? sounds like Australian Slang, pretty cool.

By: Dom

Dom — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:02:14 +0000

Garovorkin (71)

I’m not sure about Ellen. She would be the obvious one, but maybe too obvious! I’m wondering, in Baltar’s case (not that I think he’s one of the final five) whether he is evolving into some sort of new organic Cylon somehow.

I also wonder how Galen and ‘Boomer’ Sharon will react to each other now.Tory is intriguing. While Cally’s death was tragic, I also understand Tory’s decision: Cally wanted to kill herself, so Tory saved the baby and then gave Cally what she wanted.

My speculation about the show, right now, is that the Cylons and humans will reach an ancient, unpopulated Earth and interbreed, creating us: that the humans and Cylons of the new BSG are some sort of Adam and Eve!

Remember all the stuff about the theorised ancient races that are mentioned in the opening speech of the original Galactica show by Patrick Macnee? Perhaps the remnants of the human race left around the colonies also interbreed with the Cylons – even via the dreaded farms – and repopulate the various worlds millennia after their destruction, when the radiation levels subside. The stories of the war and the departure of the Galactica from all the other non-FTL-fitted ships become legend and thus the stories of the 13th tribe persist.

Meanwhile, on Earth, the hybrid Cylon/human race becomes us. Eventually the cycle begins again and the Lorne Greene Adama takes the survivors of the colonies to look for Earth: the 13th colony actually being the descendants of the original Galactica fleet and the original Cylons!

The whole circle of time concept would work rather well if this Galactica show effectively sets up the original series!! Given Leobin’s comment to Kara in season one that in the next cycle of time they could be reincarnated as different people, Richard Hatch’s presence as Tom Zarek arguably proves it!

Of course, this is all probably dingo’s kidneys, but it’s fun to speculate!! ;)

By: S. John Ross

S. John Ross — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:34:46 +0000

#69: I think that’s probably a very healthy way to look at it. :)

By: Garovorkin

Garovorkin — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:16:22 +0000

There is something else that i wonder about, could possibly Helen Tigh be the 5th and final Cylon? I had thought of this possibility and disregarded it, but im wondering If Ron Moore’s is kind of giving us the answer in a rather not so subtle way. I find more then a coincidence that Adama had found her alive and in the fleet in the first place, I did have suspicions about through out the series but again in this series it tough to tell the Cylons from the Coloniels , even with a score card.

By: Garovorkin

Garovorkin — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:28:18 +0000

Interesting episode. Colonel Tigh feels guilt over killing his visits 6 and starts projecting his dead wife Helen on to 6. I thing he started to feel some sympathy for 6 when he discovered that he himself is a Cylon, and when 6 revealed that though she turn off the guilt and suffering inside of herself, she choose to embrace it , because only through pain is their growth. Tigh wants to be punished for his sins, he does not want to simply turn it off because if he did it would mean his soul. She see’s his pain and like a savior seeks help him come to terms with his own pain,and to ease it. As scenes go, this one was really moving and very uplifting. Both of these characters have been through so much personel hell, to see them try to help one another, that speaks volumes about how far that the both of them have come. Maybe symbolically how there is coming together or reconcilliation between human and Cylon. For me in the beginning, it was easy to hate the Cylons, but as the series progressed , it became ever harder to do so, especially in light of the coloniels and their past history and recent behavior. The situation for the 4 is horrific, they can’t confide in any one but each other. Adama trying to Comfort Chief Tyrol, those words from Adam as well intentioned as they were like daggers in his heart. The Bitterness of having to settle fro Cally when He loved Boomer, He never Truly loved here it seems, he married her as a consolation prize and over the guilt of nearly beating her to death. He is also plagued by doubts about himself and whether his error on the rapture was actually an error and not done deliberately . The one that worry’s me in that group is Tory she has turned off her guilt and that could be telling for alot of reasons, she is manipulator, at least thats my take, Pragmatic to the point of not having a heart, do what is necessary. She can’t confide in Tyrol that she did the was responsible, but I am wondering if maybe ,just maybe he suspects the truth on that score.