The Following Are STILL Not New Movie Enterprise Images May 8, 2008
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
Earlier TrekMovie.com listed a release of the “full image of the Enterprise” as one of the big Star Trek movie events we can expect in the upcoming year, but today the #3 ranked story on Digg.com is “Could This Be the New Enterprise From Star Trek 11?.” Well for this one, Vreenak doesn’t even need to suit up as the answer is an obvious…no.
The Koerner Strikes Again
Over the last year TrekMovie.com has received countless ‘tips’ over some designs made by digital artist (and Trekkies celebrity) Gabriel Koerner. Through no fault of Gabe’s, his reimingined NCC-1701 has been mistaken for the real thing by fans and even some major websites (like Aint it Cool News). The new Digg article (which itself has been subsequently picked up by some other sites, resulting in a new wave of ‘tips’ to TrekMovie.com) is actually showing one of the Gabe’s old designs. It is one TrekMovie debunked in December after AICN got duped. If someone really wanted to get a ‘leak’ rumor going, they should have picked some of his newer images, which are still pretty cool…check them out (click to enlarge).
More Enterprise designs can be found at Gabe’s site.
Another imagined new Enterprise from Vektor
Gabe isn’t the only one who has imagined a new Enterprise for the new Star Trek. Before the teaser trailer premiered, our old friend Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee (designer of the 2007 ‘Foolerprise‘) has taken a crack at it by creating something more detailed and realistic, while retaining original design elements, even down to “The Cage” era pointy nacelles. (again click to enlarge).
More of Jason’s ‘Conjectural Trek XI Enterprise’ at sci-fi meshes
And another from Dennis Bailey
Dennis Bailey (TNG writer and Starship Exeter CGI artist) also took a crack at a reimagined 1701 by blending the TOS, Phase II and TMP era Enterprises, check it out (again click to enlarge).
Of course these are all just fun designs and none were meant as hoaxes, but that probably wont stop people from sending in tips about all the new Enterprises they find.
For now the only real picture from JJ Abrams Star Trek is of the Enterprise ‘under construction’ but at some point this thing has to fly.
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I want some news NOW!!!!!
mmm hmm
it’s a long wait
Real or not they’re still amazing
Definitely a long wait ahead… sigh…
Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s design, without the pointy nacelle cap extensions, is the winner for me. Koerner’s designs are too muscular, and Dennis Bailey’s is too drab for my taste.
500 pics of GI JOE which isn’t even coming out until AUG 09 are out there, but we don’t get crap!! I’m getting really pissed
Just goes to show that the most creative Trek fans can be found on the Trek BBS. ;-)
This one is still my favorite:
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg
Thank goodness for Koerner and his talented counterparts. At least they give us something to chew on while Paramount remains silent.
Why do I feel like the only person who is actually somewhat non-unhappy that there’s still a lot more to leak out? Once you’ve seen the Enterprise, it takes away a bit from the anticipation.
It’s like the night before Christmas. Anticipation is half the fun.
THEY ALL LOOK DAMN GOOD!!!
Can’t honestly say which one I like the most… they’re all great for different reasons. Koerner’s is the most modern-looking; Vektor’s shows that only minor tweaking to the original designs could still work; and Bailey’s is a nice, geeky nod to TOS, Phase II and TMP.
I’d put any one of these on my desk at work… proudly!
I’ve heard that when someone is suffering from extreme starvation, you cant feed them very much too fast or they will die.
When something comes out after a long while, I hope that’s it’s not too much that it will kill me.
Thanks guys for making a statement regarding these conjectural designs! I thought that even if they weren’t it, they are a good tease.
DRuss B-Flav is my fave.
Tis mac in the pants.
best!!
=h=
I like Vektor’s. It just looks like a more detailed Enterprise to me, but still looks like the Enterprise.
I think we won’t see the good ship Enterprise completely for another 364 days.
Hoping all this patience pays off. Nice shots, some of them look better than the one authentic pic we have, but I can’t be completely certain as we are seeing only a piece of the E from one angle, but I agree, we’re gonna need something soon, something to wet our lips again since we’ve got an extra 5 months of waiting.
16.
I have faith in the internet’s ability to find something.
It’s getting to the point where NOTHING will live up to this anticipation!
Thanks for the pics, Anthony. LOVE seeing what some of the incredibly talented fans are doing out there, especially with our beloved E. Must end this now so I can go back and gawk at them some more.
Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s design is by far the best. The others are interesting as federation ships, but they don’t look like the Enterprise to me. Vektor’s design captures the magic of the classic ship, with just the right amount of detail to modernize the ship.
I like the first ones. I suspect the movie version will strongly resemble those.
I can tell by the nacelles on the official image though that it’s going to be a bit too souped-up for my tastes. But I’m biased. I’m a borderline TOS purist.
J.J. Abrams or anyone from ILM? Hire Vector Lee for the new movie effects NOW!!
That is so awesome, At first glance it’s the Enterprise, but when you look closer, so many details pop out, its not even funny!
Daniel Broadway needs to post some pics, I’m itching to see what his E looks like after seeing his fake footage!
Jason Lee AKA Vektor is the winner.
Sorry, Gabe. Your design fits best with an alternate future timeline (”Yesterday’s Enterprise” style). It is an incredible homage to 1701, but it’s too much, imho. Nothing beats that orbital rendering, though. Brilliant stuff. (Mr. Lee, care to try something akin to that?)
Sorry, Dennis. Your design is flat, which is surprising as I’m a big admirer of your CG work and believe you’re capable of better design work.
Here’s to hoping the ILM team scores with a design mod that superceeds these creations. We’ll see…
Oh, and Dennis, why not post some pics of your USS Phoenix design? I was actually hoping the movie version looked like that months before the trailer came out. I thought it looked perfect for a prequel!
You’re other ship looks really cool too. It looks like a perfect Phase II ship!
And Gabe Koerner’s designs are awesome too. I’m not sure about the Enterprise, but Captain Tahir needs a ship with ‘muscle’ eh?
The first few images….can anyone see a bit of borg in em?
I can almost see a “meatier enterprise” for JJs trek, and, although Im up for change ….! But now i can see things out of box!……… how about,… before kirk…..before we saw anything……the enterprise was different?!!! arghh!! see what waiting does?!$”^
Vektor’s is pretty damn sweet.
You think JJ is sitting back and just laughing at us all? I hope so. Wheres life without mystery intrigue and magic. I like JJ’s tannens magic story from his boyhood. Makes waiting actually enjoyable, well maybe barable.
Gabe’s is very, very good and sort of “Star Trek” meets “Aliens.” I agree that it would be excellent in an alternate timeline — maybe the one next door to “Yesterday’s Enterprise”. It has the same kind of vibe to it.
But, even more than Gabe’s, I like Vektor’s and Dennis’s, and it’s a toss-up between them. I’ve admired both designers for a long time. I won’t say which one I like better — it’s THAT close.
This is what I saw in my childhood dreams, when I closed my eyes and made a wish:
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg
All these fan designs are great, but my favorite is Dennis Russell Bailey’s. I have two of his Enterprise designs in my CGI model library (the USS Phoenix early Constitution design and the TMP Enterprise) and they are, far and away, the finest and most beautifully detailed meshes I’ve seen, Trek or otherwise.
Far from being “flat,” there are subtle details in his designs that only show up when you get in close to the model. They have such a realistic aspect to them that it can be difficult to distinguish them from actual physical models sometimes. And they render pretty darn quick to boot, a big plus for those of us without the luxury of professional render farms.
As has been said earlier here, these fan designs are a lot of fun to see, but I’m going nuts waiting for a photo of the Enterprise from the new movie. Won’t someone working on that film please, PLEASE, for the sake of my fragile sanity, show us what she’ll look like? We trek fans need something to rant about other than oblique quotes and references from the cast.
Come on, J.J., give us the “Big E.” You know it’s the right thing to do.
The Vektorprise© is highly impressive.
Nice Job!
=h=
I bet the movie Enterprise wont look as good as some of these fan renderings….
I dislike the Gabriel Koerner Vers. I’m sorry Gabe. I think that I went to your site once and saw some videos that you made and I think that I liked them back then. Perhaps the pics here dont truly represent what you are working on.
You know what fellas, who really cares when we’re talking about Sir JJ’s new movie? We all know that it’s gonna be somewhere in between the original, and probably the designs presented in this thread. It’s basically really really close to what we all know and love. Quinto ain’t Nimoy, and Pine ain’t Shatner. And as far as I am concerned, 2008 ain’t 1968.
I love that Roddenberry said that someday people would look back on TOS and compare it to the goings on of the present, and conclude that the new version being done by people he would never meet would be much better than what he did. That to me is effing presence of mind and vision of art.
BEST!!
=h=
On Dennis’s Enterprise how come the number on the nacelle looks like a NCC-19 (cuts off) instead of NCC-17?
re: 30. girl6 - May 8, 2008
“This is what I saw in my childhood dreams, when I closed my eyes and made a wish:
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg ”
agreed. THIS IMAGE is the Gabriel Koerner© Enterprise that got me totally enthused.
Gabe, I’m sorry for the disrespect and apologize to your work. That image is spectacular.
BEST!!
=h=
@hitch #34
Poetry. That is what art should be. I also love your ‘2008 ain’t 1969′ bit too! Brilliant.
Vector… your rendering still ROCKS!!!
Sorry, but why does Gabe keep showing up?
He’s a competent CGI artist, but a terrible designer. He’s not trained and has no eye for design, proportion and originality from what I can see.
Gabe’s Enterprise looks like as if it has been assimilated by the Borg…
9. Ensign Ricky
I agree, though I really like Jason Lee’s retro look as well.
re: 39. Bart - May 8, 2008
whoa………….
seer of seers. effing a. Like a psychologist, you’ve just put a label on a feeling that we all have. Ever take some of those classes, dude? It’s merely a mapping of the human condition, which is understood and not be discussed.
=h=
I agree with Harry up at #1. Time for some real news.
It’s fun to see how some competent designers have re-imagined our favorite ship.
Does anyone know who has re-designed NCC-1701 for XI?
They all remain highly sexy, despite not being the real deal.
considered that there is a year to go till the movie opens I dont mind that I dont know what JJs 1701 will look like. It would be like Damon explaining what smokey is two years before the Finale in 2010 ;))
Vektorprise is way ahead of the others, and maybe even better than the official trailer version.
damn gabe aree you ever gonna finish that thing?
will people stop saying ‘long wait’ please. it hurts bad enough already. :)
#19
oh that was hard
I really like Jason ‘Vektor’ Lees ship. The Gabe is too futuristic for my taste…
I think JJ Abrams is clever not to release something too early however perhaps a little teaser, maybe just a glimpse of this ship b4 indie, like i dunno a sequence in space starting with a shuttle, camera follows shuttle then pans across to reveal the Enterprise, all shots cut by flashes of white, then the Trek logo then summer 2009
sorry forgot my 0.02 quatloos.
i dont like JJ’s ent. i think it stinks. for this era i like vector better.
#23 “Daniel Broadway needs to post some pics, I’m itching to see what his E looks like after seeing his fake footage!”
I’m in the process of making a second teaser, which will “continue” the events of the first real teaser.
It features a whole new Enterprise, than the one from my first teaser. I hope you enjoy when it’s released.
It will be absolutely imperative for JJ to show the ship prior to the film’s opening.
The Iron Man trailer is all about cool FX, and that film, on very traditional marketing and buzz, made freaking $200m in its first weekend.
If there is eyecandy to be had, the first real trailer had best show it off.
Either version looks super cool to me.
Hey, its news ST. I’m happy.
I have a bad feeling about what they are coming up with for the movie. I’m okay with JJ updating the underlying technology and bringing it all ‘into sharper focus’ as they say, but don’t mess with the actual design of the original E. Yeah, let’s see the hull plating seams and make the ship look more believable and detailed for the big screen, but I hope to God that they don’t try to reinvent it.
Gabe is getting almost as much publicity as if he WAS doing the movie! You know he’s loving it.
Bottom line… it was stated we would get something soon how many months ago? Why believe then any other claims made on this production?
I for one don’t like being lied too. Perhaps the oh so cleaver position on the false promise was for us to keep it in mind with all the guessing and fussing in the forums.
Just pisses me off.
FIRST PLACE WINNER: Jason
SECOND PLACE WINNER: Bailey
THIRD PLACE WINNER: Gabe’s (his nacelles looks like two uncircumscribed male appendages)
OOps….that uncircumcised….sorry
YUBinit:
I don’t think we are being lied to. The film has been pushed back 6 months, and the marketing budget should not be squandered too early.
Those who promised this to us have no control over the release date, so I think your anger is misplaced.
I was hoping at 365 days, we would get a carrot, but we didn’t. If the fabled July San Diego Con comes and goes without anything of interest, then we can be officially pissed off.
Matt Jeffries sure did come up with an iconic design - it lends itself to so many different interpretations but still looks great. I kind of like the Dennis Bailey design best - somewhere between the classic Enterprise and the movie version.
Would it really hurt Paramount to release a pic or rendering of the new version already? I mean, it’s not like anybody can copy it and use it in another movie or anything. It will only increase awareness, foster more debate and thus more interest. Where’s the harm in that?
I heard the new Enterprise is more organic in it’s design with a more expressive chunk cut out of the aft secondary hull directly below the shuttle hangar entrance.
It’s out there somewhere .The toy companies know what it looks like so they can build their toys based on it.
Bryan:
That thought crossed my mind as well.
If I recall, in Gene Roddenberry’s novelization of TMP, Kirk “gets” the Enterprise design as a female with her graceful nacelles as legs during his flyover.
Koerner turns Enterprise into a woman with two oversized willies.
I think all three of these updates are worthy contenders. However, I’d love to be a fly on the wall at ILM as they do the FX for this film.
I like Vektor’s design. If the real thing will be anything like that, I’m happy.
After seeing the teaser trailer a few times, the warp nacelles of that Enterprise looks a lot like Gabe Koerner’s design. But for me I have to agree with the others. Although it is a great design, It is too muscular and aggressive looking for Star Trek (maybe a Terminator meets Star Trek Universe).
Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s is really a loving tribute, though. It needs the super high bridge dome though :) (The Cage version was imagined to be a smaller ship than the series version, hence only a crew of 200 or so).
These are all great work, but I would still be happy to be getting big screen visuals of the ‘TOS’ Enterprise if the design looked like the following from either Scott Gammans or Daren Dochterman…
http://scottgammans.com/
http://betafive.com/wordpress/?cat=6
And I rather like the idea of any FULL reveal of the new movie ‘E’ and ‘lighting’ being kept a surprise till opening night, with only glimpses of certain portions of it in any future trailers…
Maybe we can get a peak at some PRODUCTION ART of it till then though…
However, this thing is more than likely to be leaked by someone to do with the toy or book side of it’s merchandising anyway! It normally is nowadays… :(
VEKTOR’S Foolerprise is excellent!
I like GABE’S too but it’s a little too busy for me, especially the secondary hull.
Great work guys.
Oh, and pleeease let it have nice obvious RED and GREEN ‘navigational’ lighting atop!…
Most of them wisely make the windows smaller. Those windows don’t have to show up on 14″ TVs anymore, so they don’t have to translate into something that would be two decks tall.
I like almost all of the above models. But, I am SO ready for the real thing.
The anticipation buildup is making us all mad.
and I love it!!!!
Just scanning quickly through the responses, I have to agree that Jason’s wins the “contest.” It looks great, which is the most important thing, and it also looks like it could slightly pre-date the original Jeffries design.
Koerner’s is harsh. It’s not bad, but it doesn’t look like a “good guys” ship.
Dennis’s is a nice attempt to reconcile all the 1701’s designs, but doesn’t quite set my sails.
I also just love the lighting and rendering on Jason’s. It’s really majestic and beautiful-looking.
Scott B. out.
While none of these are the “real deal,” I tip my hat to anyone who can create such great-looking images. Well done!
Thanks for the kind words, everyone.
We’re not in a competition. :-)
Check out a whole bunch of Gabe’s hi-res images along with some quick time animations of his creation.
Short quicktime video: http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/trekreel002.mov
Lots of hi res images: http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent
Vektor’s Enterprise is excellent. I’d like to see that in the movie.
I second Dennis’ grattitude for all the kind words. Definitely not a competition, just a really fun project. For me, it was also a chance to make a statement about the kind of “updates” I wanted to see in this new film. Like everyone else, I’m eager to find out what the real deal looks like, but I don’t expect to see it any time soon given the pushed-back release date. I still wonder if they might throw something at us with Indy 4; just seems like too big an opportunity to pass up.
i think Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s ship is totally beautiful. i love the vintage, original look. design from that era was amazing, so why try to ‘improve’ upon it like the others? the other ships are nice of course, but jason’s really holds the original design in tact while adding details that would complement the style.
hey, my post didn’t take! what the - ?
Dennis- wow. Perfect!
I hope they release something at least on the ship soon. Those who don’t want to see it don’t have to look. And the ship will be all over the place before the movie opens anyway (even if it’s just a day before). For TMP they showed the basic ship redesign at the press conference to announce the film. And a presskit with photos went to theater owners one year before the movie opened. I’m curious to see it soon, but if I don’t, it’s OK .
74 Yes your statements are absolutely bang on the money for me, an older trekker and massive fan of MJ’s visual genius. Your design is a massive nod to MJ’s original yet the updates actually enhance it, not an easy thing to achieve. I think we will get something more extreme in the film, and sadly probably not as “nice” as the Vektorprise for fans. So far the trailer seems to idicate a ship with all manner of later versions’ scaled up details - noteably TMP version which is supposedly later - added here and there without much thought it would seem.
After Dennis Bailey and Jason Lee’s comments upthread, I regret having framed my opinions in terms of an implied competition. All three of the entries are of exceptional 3D-modeling quality, and represent the work of true artists — the ones who do it for the love of it. Kudos to all three!
I love vectors design
Star trek sucks.NOT!
all of them look good, im just hoping to god that they dont stick a satelite dish on the front of the Enterprise, its one of the only things I hate about the orig design and would look soooo out of place nowadays!!
Those Koerner pics are uber sweet. Why isn’t he on the design team?
#80
i agree about that teaser ship. i remember tearing into that, with all its obvious problems. and that was after takeing into consideration that we know it does get upgrades from time to time.
#83 I agree that’s the most dated look of the design. A big satellite dish just doesn’t look very modern. That being said, I think some genius designer could take the dish, and make it look futuristic.
Posted this on the Abrams thread.
BTW on the Art Asylum board forum, there is another “alleged” example of the Enterprise from the new movie. It does nod heavily to what was seen in the trailer, but I have serious doubts that it is legit. Cue the Romulan.
#83
i disagree
but it does bring up the question again.
is this a prequel or is it a re-make?
and dont ask JJ’s team. theyll give you same line over and over that theyre going to honor canon, that ‘we’re honoring what came before’
#87, THX-1137:
That’s actually by an artist who calls himself Jude Xavier, and it is indeed based upon the teaser trailer for ST XI.
The artist and others talk extensively about the design here:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=51129
The only design I liked was Jason Lee’s design - now THAT is what I’m talking about!! Nothing wrong with a more “detailed version” of something (think the Ktinga and the D7), but junk like Gabe’s “Enterprise” I’m sure just make Matt Jeffries spin in his grave (at warp speed, no doubt).
Jason Lee’s “Enterprise” is the best design I’ve seen other than the original - which I thought was perfect and couldn’t be “improved” upon. Mr. Lee has proven me wrong with his incredible rendering that even makes an uptight Purist like me happy!!
Hopefully Abram’s “Enterprise” will look like Jason’s version rather than Gabe’s monstrosity.
#19
Harry nailed it…
The anticipation that we and other fans are building… there is NOTHING that can answer to it. Short of resurecting a cast 40 years younger and giving them a budget of a billion dollars.
Of the designs, I do like the Vektor design best… Gabe’s is too beefy and over-involved, it eliminates so much of the sleekness that made the big E a sexy ship. Bailey’s I like, but it’s a tad too much TMP for me, although I understand the idea of a closer progression.
I would LOVE to see a model of this idea!
the new enterprise will look like none of these! it will be cooler, more streamlined and as beautiful as we all want her to be. but the new one will blow all these out of the water. it will be nothing that we will expect.
but i have to agree that korner ain’t the greatest of designers, but it’s fan made so it can be whatever the hell it wants to be.
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg
thats on my desktop, I don’t care if its cannon or not, its just STUNNING to look at :)
at least until we get “real” pics
The Ent in the teaser trailer reminds me of the end of TMP where V’ger implodes/explodes whatever and we see the Ent coming out of it and the camara zooms in on The Ents saucer real close…same nasa space shuttle heat panels, the bridge, phaser bank, lettering of the ‘NCC 1701′ etc
The new Ent looks to be a blend of TOS (nacells..probably deflector dish etc) and the movie Ent (panels..phaser banks..lettering etc)
That Gabekoerner thing looks like some Jekyll and Hyde version of the Enterprise.
Beetle Bailey!!! I think Jude pretty much nailed it. Though I think the overall length of the ship will be more like 2000′ due to the trailer showing 4 decks on the outer saucer rim. I think everything else looks close to what we will see in the film. Outstanding work from everyone!!!
here’s maybe the cleanest view of the JJ prise at screen rant which I think most clearly shows off the bigger scale of the ship. The outer saucer rim is twice as tall as the TOS or Movie E.
http://screenrant.com/images/enterprise-detail.html
I’m with you Garth. If you look closely to the picture you put up and the render that Jude made, the similarities are striking. And I tell you what, I like it. I wouldn’t at all be put off by it. What do you think?
…So, are any of these meshes available for download, or are their creators being [censored] and keeping them for themselves?
The Dennis Bailey Enterpise is the one I like. I can see that ship after TOS and before TMP.
I have seen art work of “The J.J. Abrams Enterprise” and none of these ships are like it.
The “Under Construction” trailer show most of the changes to the classic look.
#96
2000′ jhc !!!
4 deack? i looked at it as three when i first saw it. hey 3, 4 whats the differance. its suppost to be 2. JJprise just looks too thick in the rim.
#98
ill tell ya what i think.
oh waot ive already said as much. i dont like th JJprise or Judes.
not for early/pre tos movie.
i realy like jasons
#100
im sorry could you say that again
Garth:
Thanks for the link to the monster detailed image of the ship. I saw a lot more here than I have before.
No three circular windows at the bow end of the saucer? I guess, as mentioned, as the saucer’s rim has four visible decks, they would be totally out of proportion, as I think many of the windows as we know them on the old E would be on the new one.
I think the teaser trailer’s theme of “under construction”, combined with the limited, highly foreshortened view of the E from the front, gives JJ’s team the latitude they need so that any changes to the look of the ship before the film - or any ‘definitive’ version - is shown can be explained away. In other words, folks, don’t put too much stock in that one still from the teaser trailer.
Yes, certain things have been hammered down, but the issue of perspective can be tricky and they know that and rely on it later to weasel out of future complaints about the teaser trailer apparently not corresponding to the movie.
Consider that foreshortening in 2D graphics can look right with the gestalt taken into account, but give the impression of being wrong when the viewer focuses on just one element of the image. A complimentary effect is the flattening effect of telephoto lenses shooting subjects from extreme distance, wherein, again, everything looks right in context, but can give the impression of incongruent sizes when two objects - at different distances to the viewer but both in focus - are juxtaposed and one’s vision becomes fixed on the two objects alone.
So, basically, take the same shot of the Enterprise and “dolly” out with the “camera”, and everything looks right.
The trailer nacelles seem to suffer from the same “giant d*ldo” syndrome as the Koerner nacelles. They are too thick and too wide.
In TMP and beyond, the refit design benefitted greatly from sleeker, trimmer nacelles on widening, seemingly stronger, struts.
Maybe, a bit of perspective, as #104 mentions, will help.
I am not sure the teaser was meant to show an Enterprise which could be easily changed, apart of the installation of the nacelle caps (and points, it seems). That would be too cruel. In any case, the teaser will be long forgotten once the trailer, and the film itself, are revealed.
#104
dont forget distance/placement
one of the things about the trailer ver is that its not ment ot sat that the ship is all in one piece. but maybe many pieces. the nacelles could be seperate nearby and give the impresion of completion. being in the wrong place throws it off.
#105
no ones gonna forget it.
Daniel Broadway - meant to say in my earlier post that I also really liked some of your speculative Enterprise design work too.
Enc:
On second thought, no one here will forget it, that’s for sure ;-).
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/STXINCC-17013View.jpg
You guys want to see something BEAUTIFUL from Vektor? Check out the Grandeur-A on TrekBBS. Seriously… It’s what the Sovereign class Enterprise-E should’ve been.
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=1622954#post1622954
Koerner Just stop already. they designed something better get over it.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/STXINCC-1701Side-Front02Posterfun.jpg?t=1210425887
#106 - you are right, it *could* be that the nacelles are not in their final position, which is one of the reason I cited the ability of the filmmakers to “weasel” about certain aspects of the look of the Enterprise once the film comes out - or before that, if they release a “definitive” look to the ship before the film debuts.
But the thing is, why put the nacelles so close to where they will be once they are on the pylons, if they could finish them somewhere else (like on the ground) and then position them on the pylons?
^clarification - I mean, why work on the nacelles so close to where they will be once they are on the pylons, but not on the pylons, instead of, say, working on them on the ground (they have to be elevated to be higher up than the dish).
The Dennis Bailey Enterprise would have been great for the Star Trek movies. As much as the Enterprise from the first six movies was a beautiful ship, I alway missed the rotating engine design from the original show. I was never much on that flat engine design, even though it comes from Matt Jefferies in concept.
I like Mr. Bailey’s mixture of original design elements from the series and the films. I think his design would have been more realistic for a refit 21/2 years after the 5-year mission (as it was presented to the audience)then the ship we saw in ST:TMP. This, because it was always a question to me that the movie version looked like a whole new ship, but was offered as a refit, it didn’t really make much sense.
The ship above really would have fit into the concept of an upgrade done right after the series and would have satisified those who felt the ship need updating for the big screen ten years after the show’s third season.
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wow the actual shape of the dry dock for this 23 deck ‘V’ shape ship. the ship is in the dock its self and the engines are build up on ground level and then only slid over a few meters to final position. but then there are other ships whos shapes whould differ. but all this goes to the conversation of newportnews and gantry cranes and super lifts and block construction vs keel up…..
but yeah building the way as picted does look a bit crouded.
#116 - Okay, yeah, with a “V” shape to the dry dock itself, that makes sense to me now.
If these are just fake images, I can’t wait to see what the REAL one looks like.
#118
well the image above is from the actual teaser trailer witht hte word ‘under construction’
and thats the question. just how close does this enterprise depiction resemble the actual ship in the movie. to say nothing about the tos copmparison.
#117
i forgot to mention ground contruction and orbital construction/assembly…
but getting back to conversation of persective and lense use….
if you look at the pic you see a crane that appears to be 1000′ feet away behind the ship and the end pf the boom is shining a light on the bridge, right next to a man holding a flashlight. but if you look at actual trailer and see that shot in motion the crane looks no where near the bridge.