Captain Riker and the USS Titan
Spock, Romulans and Unification
DS9 characters involved as well

(I have no idea how to develop plots, I just know which characters and topics I’d like to see.)

Can we petition JJ Abrams to make a new series involving the Titan?! It seems like a lot of us here like it!

I would love to have seen the better eps of TNG done Galactica style. Imagine The Best of Both Worlds or Yesterday’s Enterprise done desaturated, hand-held and gritty. It would have been awesome! TOS, for all its 60s colour, was gritty and often very dark!

People who are coming at TOS through a filter of modern Treks, which were mostly written by second generation lifetime professional TV writers, rather than ex-WWII and -Korean War soldiers and their ilk, don’t appreciate just how complex, dark and controversial TOS was. As these writers have got older, you can see their development: the grit is back, as the opportunity now presents itself to tell stories on a bigger scale.

You can see Ron Moore’s Galactica as very much a comment on where modern Treks went wrong. Galactica is ST: Voyager without cosy holodecks, food replicators and a seemingly endless supply of shuttlecraft. It’s TNG’s ensemble cast made beliveable and flawed, where characters who perform one function on the ship won’t necessarily have anything to do with other characters, but whose actions all serve a necessary function for the greater whole.

The biggest thing that makes TNG dated is how naive, smug and safe it is. Face it, they create a great enemy in the Borg, then, within a couple of seasons we meet Edward Scissorborg!! Star Trek: Enterprise failed because, for all its attempts to become a post-911 show, it was still locked in a smug 1980s hippy-dippy California mindset it couldn’t shed.

So in conclusion, I hope Star Trek (2008) is ‘gritty’: if it is, it’s following in the best traditions of the original Star Trek!

I do not think JJ has to kill characters off to put the crew in mortal peril. He should find a more creative way to separate the new TOS crew from the old. UNLESS he kills off Kirk.

For us, we could survive the deaths of any of the “supporting” cast, especially with a stable of new actors playing them. I actually thought a while back that Spock was coming back in time to compensate for events which occurred in the timeline because of Nero’s successful murder of Kirk. But, in the interim, they cast his mom, dad, and brother. No point in wasting screentime for a short-lived character.

I simply, just really hope they don’t make it “gritty.” Remember how DS9 was “gritty?” Not.

Starfleet ships are prissily clean and, in the 24th century, designed as much for comfort as for battle, exploration and research. That’s not a bad thing, as humanity strives to increase productivity and lower cost. Those “secret” shuttle photos made the interior look like chairs in a strip club at 7am on a Sunday. No style at all, and no comfort.

You simply have to approach the film with the view that the early TOS era designs look different because they’re as designed in a big budget 2008 theatrical film, rather than a low budget 1960s TV show. It’s the concept that’s the most important thing.

As for all this garbage about canon: the easiest thing to do is relax about it and enjoy the movie. Part of the fun about being a fan is making up reasons to explain the inconsistencies then discuss them. Who wants everything served up on a plate and explained ad nauseum?!

Personally I see it the way Gasham (109) does: Ultimate Star Trek.

I took the same approach to TNG and its stablemates: if TOS is the equivalent of Earth-616, then TNG is a separate continuity that uses aspects of the ‘616′ tales as backstory, but isn’t exactly the same (Roddenberry stated that he was quite happy to take a revisionist approach to Trek history in TNG and indeed he and his successors did contradict TOS on more than one occasion!)

That way, I can see the original TOS continuity conclude with Kirk and crew heading out into deep space at the end of STVI, which suits me fine.

‘Ultimate Star Trek’ can be a cool, contemporary retelling of TOS informed by TOS but not bound by any of the subsequent continuities. Hopefully, at least one of the supporting cast, Sulu, Chekov or whoever will be killed off in this film, making sure that we can see the new crew in mortal peril at any time!!

You know…. the more I read about the new star trek movie the more I think it is NOT a time-traveling with old spock traveling back to PRE-TOS time.

I think the new star trek is going to be like this:
Ultimate Marvel is reinvisioning of the Marvel Universe, taking place in a different universe (Earth-1610) to the mainstream Marvel Universe (Earth-616).

Dont’ hold your breath on any of it. I’d hate to see you pass out and hit your head on something pointy.

For you folks thinking there’s going to be some mass TNG era stuff in this film…give it up. And for those afraid of the same…don’t be afraid.

This film will have minimal if any real TNG era material in it. If there is a period of time spent in that era it will be first be very short and second be very non-descript. This is a TOS film and JJ, et al, have repeatedly stated that.

Again with the 10 second cat memories. Hmph!

CE

How many hardcore fans will this piss off?

A lot.

*sharpens butter knife*

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*distracted by passing ice-cream truck*