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More TOS-R Season 2 DVD Details & Box Art [UPDATED] May 20, 2008

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: DVD/Blu-ray,TOS Remastered , trackback

Today CBS and Paramount Home Entertainment released high resolution images for the front and the back of the interior sleeve for the upcoming Remastered Star Trek The Original Series Season 2 DVD box set (coming out August 5th). UPDATE: We also have details on what is in each disk, including special features and bonus episodes.




Disk Sleeve Front and back (click to enlarge)


Box front and side angle view (click to enlarge)



Disc One:

Disc Two:

Disc Three:

Disc Four:

Disc Five:

Disc Six:

Disc Seven:

Disc Eight:

NOTE: All episodes are uncut

Seasons One and Two discounted at Amazon
The Season Two box set is now available at Amazon for pre-order, discounted to $63.99 (Amazon has a low price guarantee that if they drop the price before ship date of August 5th you will get that lower price). Amazon has also discounted the Season One DVD / HD DVD combo disk is to $96.95 (retail is $194.99).

Seasons One and Two of TOS-R ($96.95 and $63.99 respectively)



1. Marvin the Martian - May 20, 2008

I like the quote.

2. CmdrR - May 20, 2008

This reminds me of my teenaged summers (don’t ask when, but they involved polyester screenprint shirts that made your pits smell like anchove pizza) reading Trek novelizations and short story collections. The stories would involve much more space action than TOS could muster and fantastical artwork not possible in the 60’s or 70’s.

I repeat that I believe TOS-R is only the first go-around. I think there will be another, more detailed approach in the not too distant future.

3. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - May 20, 2008

Mine’s on pre-order. I want the new FX. And CmdrR., I’ll buy the next go-round as well.

4. Irishtrekkie - May 20, 2008

CmdrR, define not to distance future i dont think they will do anything for at least another 10 years , cause if they do it in two years , will that not just p*ss off fans who paid for this stuff , but yea i guess maybe they might do it again in a while

5. Chris Pike - May 20, 2008

Blu-ray please

6. Frank - May 20, 2008

I hope it holds together better then my first season box. That one broke apart in two pieces after a couple of weeks…

7. CmdrR - May 20, 2008

Irishtrekkie — I may be in error or overly optimistic about the desire to take CBS-D’s fine first effort to the next level. I think it will be done. Whether that’s 2 years (I doubt it) or 10, I cannot say. Could be some upstart fan. Then again, I’m still waiting on the colorization and digital rejiggering of Buster Crab’s ‘Flash Gordon.’ What gives, PTB?

8. DJ Koloth - May 20, 2008

Well, I definately will rent this but I’m going to wait for the BluRay till I buy it.

9. Doug - May 20, 2008

I agree… Blu-Ray, please.

(yawn to complaints)

10. M33 - May 20, 2008

Hey, for me, the remastered version on ANY format is a blessing unto itself! What a dream! Even seeing it upconverted to 1080P is beautiful from the DVD source. Certainly better than viewing it from broadcast or download.

11. star trackie - May 20, 2008

#10- you’re absolutely right. These will look absolutely stunning upconverted to 1080P and piped through a flat panel display. I’ve wore out the first season reamstered DVD’s so I can’t wait to spend my money on these!

12. Starman - May 20, 2008

Blu-Ray, please

13. Spock's Brain - May 20, 2008

I see no point in Blu-Ray release, as the remastered series is at most in HDTV, and the redone effects shots aren’t that special in my opinion. You’ll notice the difference between redone TV effects and the original footage better. If you own the original series on DVD you gain nothing by buying the remastered stuff, only if you’ve got the series only on VHS you might consider buying the remastered DVDs.

A true hardcore fan will buy the remastered series anyway. For the rest of us, who aren’t going to conventions dressed as Kirk or Spock or Khan, it’s nothing new. Blu-Ray will not add anything to the image quality, as the new effects were done for TV, not a movie. It shows, too. I still like the original effects better. It’s not nostalgia, really! Okay, it’s nostalgia.

14. CmdrR - May 20, 2008

Spock’s Brain — I still like the original effects better.

But, then you’d miss the part where Mugatu pulls out a blaster and shoots first, leaving McCoy no choice.

Something else I’ve said: on any project where chunks are replaced, even by new shiny chunks, the set should include the original material in unadulterated form… for the purists.

15. M33 - May 20, 2008

BTW, as a hardcore fan & lover of the franchise, I’ve NEVER been to a convention, nor have I EVER dressed up as any Star Trek character. Bottom line, I just love seeing the cleaner picture. The other day, I watched “Tomorrow is Yesterday” on the first season remastered set and was still taken aback by how much it looked like it was filmed today when they were showing the conversations between the guest cast and the main characters. The only parts that it is noticible of poorer quality is when they have a “transition-fade” shot between two scenes, or when an effect had to be layed in. They process back then wasn’t so clean and the original masters of these episodes are gone so they only had the reels of the “finished” episodes to work with. That part does bother me a bit, but the quality of everything else is so very worth it.

16. star trackie - May 20, 2008

#13 “If you own the original series on DVD you gain nothing by buying the remastered stuff, only if you’ve got the series only on VHS you might consider buying the remastered DVDs.”

Oh man, you really need to see these on the proper equipment if that is your line of thinking. I own the old DVD’s. These remastered prints are nothing short of gorgeous. The color correction, the depth and contrast, the saturation of the colors, the sharpness and clarity…the scratches (most of them) digitally removed..there is no question…Trek has never ever looked better than it does on these remastered DVD’s. The original DVDs are nice to have because they serve as a historical record…but in comparrison to the new remastered sets, the picture quality is really quite bad. The new sets give Trek the deluxe treatment it truley deserves. I’m re-buying all 3 seasons and I couldn’t be happier.

17. Mr. Atoz - May 20, 2008


Obviously you have not seen the HD DVD format for season 1.
It is incredible how the effects leap out and the colors and clarity of the the original shots from 1967 are flawless. You’re kidding youself if you think there isn’t an upgrade in quality. That’s why I won’t buy until a High Def format is released. I’m spoiled now.

18. trekee - May 20, 2008

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. WHY did you put the episode list up and show all the extras?

I have been smugly in the ‘waiting for Bluray’ camp since I got stung on HD-DVD but this just sounds great.

Must. Resist. Must. Resist….

Season One is amazing on HD-DVD btw… it was my tipping point in the whole HD TV and HD player thing… and I still can’t say I honestly regret it.

19. colonyearth - May 20, 2008

I am still awaiting Paramount’s ever so slow a$$ on getting with the BR release! I will not buy S2 on until they’re out on BR. Nope! Not gonna do it!


20. Alex - May 20, 2008

widescreen and blue-ray, please.

21. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

Blu-ray, please!

Three cheers for the optical scanning sensor that made the biggest improvement in TOS! The colors in the restored film footage look fantastic. The improvement over the DVDs is undoubted.

As far as the FX go, I need the highest quality material to work with for TOS-R 2.0; so I’ll probably be buying season 1 on HD-DVD.

I can’t wait to see the Earth spin backwards in 1080P glory! Go CBS-D!!

22. Brian - May 20, 2008

Still waiting for the Blu Ray…..wasn’t the whole point of the remastering so that TOS would look good in HD?

#20-TOS wasn’t shot in widescreen. Neither was TNG, DS9, or Voyager. There’s no need to reformat them; all we’ll get is a bunch of heads chopped off and poorer resolution.

23. Toonloon - May 20, 2008

Are those Tribble extras carried over from the DS9 set? I haven’t heard of those before.

24. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

I am coming to realize that this iconic television series was simply a pawn in the “format wars.” When HD-DVD was defeated, TOS-R kind of went with it. They wanted to do this as cheaply as possible in order to have the most powerful weapon against Blu-ray. That’s why EdenFX/Digital Domain, ILM, etc were not awarded the contract.

Such an iconic and legendary series deserved better than an in-house, low budget, rushed CGI job.

25. TK421 - May 20, 2008

#6 That’s because you’re not supposed to hump it.

26. Cobra Commander - May 20, 2008

Like so many others, I’ve longed for a day when Classic ST could look like it did in DS9’s Trials and Tribble-ations. I just can’t believe that wish was finally granted!

I also can’t believe I haven’t ordered the TOS-R DVDs yet.
For all our complaining, we’re a pretty lucky group of fans. Sure Paramount is soaking us for every dollar possible, but without those dollars, ST would not survive today. I don’t even mind all the formats. I got my money’s worth out of my old, worn-out VHS episodes. I was delighted to be able to purchase DVDs that looked great and included the original preview teasers. Now I can watch the whole series again in remastered form or go back and watch the original version!

With a new movie coming out and all the choices available regarding classic Trek, it’s a great time to be a fan!

I don’t own an HD DVD player, a plasma or LCD TV, or a BluRay player, but when I can get TOS-R on BluRay, I’m upgrading my entire entertainment center!

27. Gatortrek - May 20, 2008

My problem with the re-mastered versions is the removal of previous scenes or dialogue to be able to put in more effects or other scenes. The one that offends me most is between Commodore Decker and Spock on the doomsday machine. They removed the part about Decker saying Spock is bluffing and Spock replies that Vulcans never bluff. Gone Why. That is a defining moment for Spock (IMHO) and from that point on i just didn’t care anymore about the re-mastered versions.

28. DJ Neelix - May 20, 2008

TOS-R on HD-DVD looks really beautiful when you have a full-HD TV. No one in their right mind can possibly say that there’s no difference between the DVD side and the HD side.

@ #8
I see I’m not the only record flipper in the house!

29. FredCFO - May 20, 2008

Very cool that they threw in the TAS “More Tribble, More Troubles” and the DS9 “Trials and Trib-ulations on disk 5 with “The Trouble with Tribbles”.

30. Nelson - May 20, 2008

re post 27- You are referring to the broadcast versions where they are edited for time. The DVD’s are the full episodes. The Remastering has not removed scenes.

31. Nelson - May 20, 2008

re post 24, the Remastered Star Trek program had nothing to do with the format wars, in other words, they were originally done to celebrate the 40th Anniversary and when they started broadcasting these, there was no word or intention to sell them on DVD, HD-DVD or Blu Ray. That came later.

32. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2008

sean will you please stop posting the eden article in every single TOSR article you have essentially become a troll.

and your ‘theory’ of the project is completely wrong. The HD DVD came about after the project started. The only effect it had was to bring the DVD release of season 1 ahead of the original plan. This project was born inside CBS Paramount Syndicated Television. It has the only budget it could have.

The budget of the project is a fraction of what eden was paid for ST Enterprise. I like Eden’s work but I dont think they could have done this project for the budget.

33. Thorny - May 20, 2008

6. Frank…

Your Season 1 box lasted two whole weeks? Mine snapped in a couple of days. Cheap-o design. Shame on CBS-D.

28. DJ Neelix…

My brother says that about all HD, not just TOS-R. Some people just can’t see the improved image, I guess. I watched some TOS-R episodes on both DVD and HD-DVD and think the HD version is vastly superior.

34. New Horizon - May 20, 2008

I shall patiently wait for the ‘remastered’ remastered Trek. I’m certain it will get a ‘proper’ treatment in a few years, and not this rush job.

35. M33 - May 20, 2008

Anthony Pascale. On it as always. = )

36. capt mike - May 20, 2008

As much as i love star trek i simply will not buy the Series on dvd till it comes on blu ray. Cbs will eventualy release it on blu ray but after it has had a run on regular dv so they can milk us for all the money they can. So i wont give then that satisfaction and ill wait. I waited thsi long and a little longer wont bother me.

37. Andy Patterson - May 20, 2008


Maybe I’ll get this someday. I want to see the extras and more of the Billy Blackburn movies.

38. Brian - May 20, 2008

#2, 3, and 4

I can appreciate that you find alot of the new work uneven at best, but it will likely be a cold day in hell before the FX are redone again. Like it or not, this will be TOS from here on.


To say there’s no appreciable difference between the regular DVD’s and the remasters in HD is way off the mark. I couldn’t believe how much cleaner and vibrant the episodes look now….and putting the series in HD puts TOS closer to it’s native 35mm film resolution.

39. Dom - May 20, 2008

This release is pointless for me. I’ll wait for the Blu-rays and hope the packaging is better!

40. Demode - May 20, 2008


Give it 20 years….

41. DL - May 20, 2008

im not buying till it comes out in hi-def see no reason for a sd rehash even if its cleaned up

42. Spock's Brain - May 20, 2008

I agree on the “remastered” versions removing key stuff. I won’t buy any remastered stuff, I like my original Star Trek with all the good and bad as acted and done back in the day. I wonder if they’ve done the Journey To Eden though, it’s the worst episode after Spock’s Brain, though I like Spock’s brain, but the episode is so silly.

It’s like remastering Star Trek The Motion Picture… wait, they did that. I didn’t notice anything else but the missing close Vulcan double planet… though it never meant that Vulcan “has no moon” like Spock said. Vulcan, as in non-canon, is a double planet with a “moon” that isn’t as much as a moon but more like Pluto and Charon, a double planet. I don’t mind taking out the huge planets from the sky, as that’s just silly.

Even if Vulcan is a double planet, the “moon” wouldn’t be huge. Only way you get a huge planet looming on the horizon is on Io or Titan, where Jupiter or Saturn dominates the sky. Earth and Moon are a sort of double planet, and the Moon isn’t huge in the sky.

43. Brian - May 20, 2008

The remastered versions don’t remove anything; the stuff that’s missing is due to edits for syndication purposes.

44. Spock's Brain - May 20, 2008

Bob Wise wanted the looming planets out of the picture on Vulcan as it isn’t realistic. Even if Vulcan is a double planet, you wouldn’t see them like that. Robert Wise wanted the Star Trek film to be realistic. I love the first film, more than any other. It’s got the real space feeling.

45. Spock's Brain - May 20, 2008

The remastered series isn’t running here on TV, I’ve watched on the net. I don’t think that’s going to change the TV channels here, two commercial and three national. The commercial channels are going to buy the show anyway, as it’s good. As long as it’s cheaper than Survivors or such… I haven’t watched TV for so long I don’t know what they’re buying here anymore. Mostly American, British and Australian shows.

46. Alex Aslanidis - May 20, 2008

If and when they release season two on Blu, I wonder if they will redo or export season one in Blu as well? You know, for those who never bought an HDDVD ? I have both so its all good.

Nothing like seeing Trek better than ever before. HD the only way for me!!


47. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

Worry not New Horizon I am making it so.

48. Stanky McFibberich - May 20, 2008

I have the VHS versions and when push comes to shove, the only thing that matters is the original actors in the original roles. Yeah, it would be nice to see it in full hi-def, but I can live without that.
Just wait until that movie comes out and you can see the fake actors in full hi-def and then put it on the shelf and never watch it again.
Apologies to all you fake lovers everywhere.

49. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

Stanky, careful there buddy. I agree with you but there are dangers overhead. We have to avoid negative repetition my friend.

50. Stanky McFibberich - May 20, 2008

re: 49. Sean4000 – May 20, 2008
Yes, we must support the new “version” so that they can make more fake versions to bring Star Trek to the new masses (or lack thereof).

51. Denise de Arman - May 20, 2008

Stanky#48- I can empathize with you, my friend, in your love for the original; however, if the entire original cast thinks breathing new life into TOS is a good idea, who are we to argue? Perhaps it would help you to think of the new version as being a tribute to the original, like tribute bands for Aerosmith or The Eagles – we know it is not the real thing, but it gives us some Trek, whereas before we had none at all. Whatdoyasay?

52. Denise de Arman - May 20, 2008

And I am grabbing this package as soon as it is available. Cannot wait to see Amok Time remastered, as well as the Tribbles eps.

53. DL - May 20, 2008

# 51 we dont need a tribute band to do the Eagles. They’ve been back together for awhile now, have a new CD and i have tickets to see them. Sometimes the real thing is the best. Now back to Trek lol. I am going to approach the new movie with an open mind, and hopefully it’s not a let down. We have to realize that these are new actors in these legendary roles. No way will it be the same, it would be ignorant for us to think they can get every nuance right. As long as they capture the essence of the roles and do a good job at trying to keep the vision of Trek alive that is what will matter. No way Chris Pine is William Shatner. no way Zachary is Leonard Nimoy. We all know that nobody can replace DeForest or James Doohan, all they can do is try to assume the role. Don’t expect it to be exact

54. Gatortrek - May 20, 2008

Re 30 and 43. At the moment i will take your word for it. But i would like to see the re-mastered version on DVD of the Doomsday Machine. If the full dialogue is there i will apologise. However, explain why an edit for tv would take out two lines in the middle of a pivotal scene rather then at the edges of the beginining or end of an Act???

55. thomoz - May 20, 2008

Hey, for me, the remastered version on ANY format is a blessing unto itself! What a dream! Even seeing it upconverted to 1080P is beautiful from the DVD source. Certainly better than viewing it from broadcast or download.

– – – – –

I play the Season One in HD and it looks like a completely different transfer
than the video running parallel on the DVD side. You all who have only
seen the Season One set at DVD resolution have seen one-fifth of the

I am not exaggerating this in the slightest.
My 16 yo son couldn’t believe the picture either.

56. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2008

the fact that the DVDs are the uncut versions is not a matter of opinion, but of fact.

57. Gatortrek - May 20, 2008

#56 Anthony, I want to believe you but stating it as a fact to someone who hasn’t seen proof is hardly a convincing argument. Again, i will take your word for that statement, but what i have actually seen lends me to believe otherwise. I can’t afford to purchase the re-mastered sets especially with what i have seen broadcast. If i could see that portion of the re-mastered version on you tube or someone could direct me to a place where i could see for myself i would greatly appreciate it. I would love to be wrong!!!!

58. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2008

let me be even clearer.

TOSR when shown on TV has syndication cuts. Those are made AFTER each episode has been remastered in its full length. The Season One box set was all at full length, and it has been confirmed with CBS and Paramount that the season two will also be full length. This is not an opinion…it is a basic fact.

so please let it go.

59. Gatortrek - May 20, 2008

#56 BTW, Anthony do you believe they will eventually re-do thoses for a blu-ray release??

60. Gatortrek - May 20, 2008

Anthony i don’t understand the anger. I have watched Trek since Sept. of “66. I was in on the original letter writing campaigns to keep trek on the air. I am sorry this upsets you, but in all the years of syndication that scene has never been cut out until now. So maybe you can see how i would tie the two events together.

61. Donald G - May 20, 2008

Re: #54

Gatortrek wrote: “However, explain why an edit for tv would take out two lines in the middle of a pivotal scene rather then at the edges of the beginining or end of an Act???”

Because edits are cumulative. The approace the re-editing TOS for syndication since the mid-80’s appears to have been:

1. Remove extraneous Enterprise flybys and establishing shots.
2. Remove extraneous log-entries during the middle acts of the story.
3. Lop off whole scenes that arguably add very little to the story, like Nurse Chapel’s waking Spock to inform him that the Enterprise is diverting to Vulcan after all in “Amok Time”.
3. Then finally, removing lines of dialogue, like Kirk often repeating what other characters have told him. If that isn’t sufficient to get you down to 43’30” or thereabouts (I don’t remember specifically what time TOS is cut down to in syndication, but that figure above is close), then remove other lines, if necessary.

There are all sorts of edits to the episodes in syndication and have been for decades, now. Some episodes are hurt more than others – “The Doomsday Machine” is one of those episodes that is heavily damaged by the syndication cuts, unfortunately.

The episodes on the remastered DVD *will* be full length and uncut, not syndication edits, just as the episodes on the hybrid HD-DVD were.

62. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

Gator, Tensions are high tonight. We best lay low and wait for things to cool off.

63. Donald G - May 20, 2008

Re: 60

Gatortrek: The amount of time given over to commercials have gone up in the last 10-15 years.

In the late seventies/early eighties, individual stations used to get film prints bicycled to them and make their own edits. Scenes would be cut out and respliced back in. In my market, a scene in “The Conscience of the King” was taken out spliced back in at the wrong place.

Around 1984 – 87, as I understand it, TOS was made available in new syndicated masters transferred to videotape with the syndicated edits standardized. This version was scene throughout the late eighties into the mid-nineties.

IIRC, In the late nineties, Sci-Fi got exclusive rights for a while, and they ran the episodes uncut in a ninety minute timeslot with lots and lots of ad-breaks and interviews with the cast and crew to pad the program out to fill the timeslot. At some point shortly before the turn of the millennium, Sci-Fi decided to show the series in an hour timeslot, which again entailed cutting for time. This time, the TOS episodes were cut even more heavily than the late eighties/nineties batch.

I don’t have enough video evidence from that Sci-Fi run to compare with the cuts to TOS-R. (I only have off-air VHS of Sci-Fi’s cut of “Court-Martial” while I have most of the late eighties/early nineties off-air run off a Dallas/Fort Worth affiliate). To me, it looks like the TOS-R editors have based their cuts off the late eighties edit, then taken more out. In the case of the “Menagerie part one”, the TOS-R puts back a few sequences that were cut in the mid-eighties, but takes out some other sequences.

64. Donald G - May 20, 2008

Hey, everybody–I apologize for my fat fingers and all the typos I’ve made tonight. It’s a bit late for me and I’ve had a long day.

65. Sean4000 - May 20, 2008

No problem, i make them all of the time. Thanks for clearing up the edit mystery. I was wondering also.

66. Andrew - May 21, 2008

I wish they would hurry up and announce the UK release date !!
Come on !!!

67. Chris - May 21, 2008

I so want to be on these like Tleas on Tribbles but owning the original DVD releases makes it just that little bit easier to wait for Blu-Ray. Great info too guys on the Syndicate edits.

68. bmar - May 21, 2008

#63 – Donald G – Re: The Sci-Fi Channel versions from the late ’90s. I was the exec producer on those, and yes, originally we ran the full un-cut versions plus the additional material (host wraps, interviews, etc).

When the “Special Edition” as we called it, was pulled, Sci-Fi reverted to running syndication cuts – which they may have gotten directly from Paramount (I had left Sci-Fi by then) or they may have cut them themselves, ad cable network programming departments often do.

In television we cut to “the clock” which is a format we have based on the number of commerical breaks, the number of minutes of national ad time, local ad time and promo time. The “clock” for each cable network is different and often changes. Further, the “clock” for national cable networks is often different than the “clock” for local television affiliates, who often demand even more time for commericals.

I don’t recall what the clock was at Sci-Fi back in ’98, but it’s likely that whatever cuts were made were probably different than the ones made currently in syndication.

69. Starman - May 21, 2008

What’s with this “true fans will buy this anyway” crap?

No, for the price of this set, I’m going to WAIT for the Blu-Ray release because I’m not going to suckered into buying it twice. I think we’ve bought these episodes enough times over the years, we don’t need to re-buy them within months of a previous release.

70. Thomas Jensen - May 21, 2008

#60 Since you’ve watched trek from the beginning and you wrote letters to keep the show on the air, you should know trek has had syndication cuts from the first 5-day stripping run in September of 1969. It’s no big deal.

The shows have never been released on video with scenes, paragraphs, sentences or Captain’s Log’s cut out. That happens for broadcast. I don’t care if they cut out parts, I watch the DVD’s, not lousy broadcast quality reruns with parts cut out.

Why watch the series on TV, when, for years, it’s been on some form of video which has the whole show intact? Plus, dvd looks better, especially HD.

71. Brad - May 21, 2008

Dr. McCoy is right… in pointing out the enormous Bul-ray potential in any contact with DVDs and intelligence as fantastically advanced as this. But I must point out that the possibilities — the potential for knowledge and advancement is equally great. Risk, risk is our business gentlmen. That’s what this starship is all about. That’s why we will buy her.

72. OneBuckFilms - May 21, 2008

Since a High-Def TV and Blu-Ray Players are way too expensive for my budget, I’ll be on DVD for a number of years.

Although made initially on Film, Star Trek was always meant to be viewed on a standard Television, aka Standard Definition, basically what you get on DVD.

For these two reasons, I’m going to break down and get the Stardard Definition DVD releases.

Once I have the remastered on Standard DVD, I will then wait until the technology becomes affordable to me before going with a HD TV and Blu-Ray.

By then, if/when the Original Series is released (remastered) on Blu-Ray, it should be cheap enough to make it worthwhile getting the Blu-Ray sets.

This also gives CBS and Paramount the time to get it right on Blu-Ray.

73. Sean4000 - May 21, 2008

One buck, this project is over. I really hoped that CBS would go back and fix the screwups before a Blu-ray release. I would doubt highly that anything like that happening.

74. Gary the Gorn - May 21, 2008

Hey Donald G. #68. or bmar

Do you know if Paramount is ever going to put in the wrap arounds you guys did on the SciFi channel for Trek uncut on a DVD release? The interviews were great. Which of the original actors were you able to get? I remember Nimoy and Takei. It really made watching those episodes fun.

75. nuuty1 - May 21, 2008

Who are the suckers buying this? Where are the Blu’s?

76. Sean4000 - May 21, 2008

My best guess is the the Blu-rays are in a state of quantum flux. They might materialize in our dimension sometime before 2009. Key word, Might.

77. Aragorn189 - May 21, 2008

Plenty of special features and an entire disk devoted to tribbles (as if I didn’t already guess that). 2.5 more months. I can’t wait.

78. Donald G - May 21, 2008

Re: #74, Gary the Gorn.

I’m sorry, but I don’t work in the business, so I can’t answer your question. I’m just a fan like everyone else.
I just spent years recording the show off-air in various formats (and replacing them when damaged) in the days before the series was available in an inexpensive home video format.

After years of being noticing and being annoyed by the syndication cuts, in a desire to learn more, I became curious and somewhat obsessive about variant edits and keeping informal tabs on them.

Now, the four-step process I outlined above may not be the approach the editors have taken. It’s just a pattern I see after having watched and compared various edits of the same episodes over the years.

I’m just an amateur way out on the fringes who likes to acquire knowledge. Bmar is an actual professional who would know more about the technical ins-and-outs about how such things are done.

[I should also point out – before other readers get the impression that I know things and people that I don’t – that I don’t know bmar personally, but do remember him posting on this forum about the work he did on the Sci-Fi Special Edition from time to time.]

79. star trackie - May 21, 2008

#68 “#63 – Donald G – Re: The Sci-Fi Channel versions from the late ’90s. I was the exec producer on those, and yes, originally we ran the full un-cut versions plus the additional material (host wraps, interviews, etc).”

Hey Bmar-just wanted to voice my appreciation for those 90 minutes special editions. The content and presentation of all the extra features and wrap-arounds were fantastic. Many thanks for your hard work, as well as evryone else who made it possible. Hopefully, that extra material will someday see the light of day again.

80. AJ - May 21, 2008

BR player manufacturers should give the players away and cut deals with the software manufacturers, and not consumers.

I bought an HP printer today for chump-change, and the cash comes in for HP once I start buying HP proprietary ink cartridges.

The existing $400-$1000 price points are robbery, and BR will have an “Oh Sh*t” moment very soon when they realize that the victory over HD-DVD meant nothing. They should have focused on DVD instead.

I bought a small Magnavox DVD player in Walmart in December for $25, and the picture on my widescreen is as good as anything else I have (and I have lots).

81. Brian - May 21, 2008

By the time the holidays roll around BD players will be at $299 or lower. Panasonic is putting out a model now at $349 and you know it’ll be even cheaper during the holidays. There’s also a bunch of cheaper players from other manufacturers coming out. Of course you could always pick up a PS3, which plays BD’s beautifully.

82. Rich - May 21, 2008

I designed some slim case sleeves for the TOS remastered season one discs. I hated that bulky box with the awful accordion jewel cases that allow the discs to be damaged, as well as making them impssible to identify. I’m not selling these, so I hope CBS doesn’t sue me. take a look, and if you want’em, just copy them. I downloaded to photobucket the 100% resolution images, so just print, cut, and insert. you can buy slimline transparent cases anywhere, but I got mine at Best Buy – $1.00 per case.

83. Lore - May 21, 2008

How bout remastering the original movies, just finished watching TWOK downloaded from xbox live. As great as it is, it could use a freshening. I just finished Shatman’s new book and he mentioned how they kept cutting his budget in Star Trek V (which he directed). How successful does a franchise have to be to get for Paramount to pay attention and get it right?

84. Sean4000 - May 21, 2008

There was a previous article stating “the films are getting a healthy scrubbing for their eventual Blu-ray release”

Time will tell how intense the scrubbing is and what changes will be made.

Don’t hold your breath on anything mind blowing.

85. Brian - May 21, 2008

I’m guessing that they’re just getting a long overdue cleanup, like the Bond films got recently. 1-5 all need varying degrees of work.

86. bmar - May 22, 2008

Re: 78,78, 74:

Thanks. That project was a blast.

Who did we get? We got just about everyone. The entire original cast, plus a ton of guest stars and behind the scenes people. It was probably the only time such a large contingent of TOS people was ever gathered in one place in one week’s time.

I believe that a lot of the interviews we shot ended up on the first season HD-DVD set (the yellow one) but I don’t own it so can’t confirm. As for the wrap arounds, we did two complete sets – one set for nimoy and one for shatner. Each of them did 3 segments for all 80 episodes, so 240 for each, 480 in total! I wrote the Nimoy segments, but by the time it came around to do the Shatner ones, I was tapped out so we hired another writer to do those.

87. Sean4000 - May 22, 2008

85 Brian, “””I’m guessing that they’re just getting a long overdue cleanup, like the Bond films got recently. 1-5 all need varying degrees of work.”””

It would be a cold day in hell before Lowry ever got his hands on Trek. He costs a penny more than his nearest competitor, Joe Blow Restorations. Guess who Paramount would choose. lol.

GoldFinger, Dr.No, and You Only Live Twice look like they were shot yesterday. Naturally there will be those who complain that they look too clean. But screw them, the films look gorgeous. Sure, there could have been a little grain, these are films, but the results speak for themselves. The colors are vibrant, image is sharp, dirt is gone, etc. The only mistake I found unacceptable is the cropping on GoldenEye; it looks as if it were zoomed in on ever so slightly. I watched all of these Bond films on my 120″ home theater screen and if tere were any gleaming flaws I would have noticed them. No dirt, no scratches, no blips, no wobble, no hairs! If Lowry were to get his hands on these films, TMP could look sharper and newer than Nemesis!

Then there is the FX issue, you can see the Mutara nebula straign through the Reliant and Enterprise. Imagine how that would look at 1080P. Something has to be done about the older Trek films. Sadly, given the el cheapo nature of Paramount, we’re either going to get no FX tweaking or ANOTHER CRAPPY IN-HOUSE FX JOB, THIS TIME ON ICONIC PIECES OF CINEMA. I am in VFX, I know how the tools work, I utterly despise the TOS-R project.

What I hope happens is that the original film elements are restored, and those are digitally recomposited. Them we have the best of all worlds. The original work is preserved, the story is not somehow changed (No Greedo/Han scenario), and we get a clean digitally tweaked image.

88. Holo J - May 23, 2008

2. CmdrR

“I repeat that I believe TOS-R is only the first go-around. I think there will be another, more detailed approach in the not too distant future.”

I hope you are right, personally I don’t see any point in buying these versions. I have the originals on DVD and don’t feel enough attention has been given to update this. Even the cleaning up of the film has been missed in places. I can see the appeal of the current release for people who don’t own these episodes on DVD at the moment, but for others who have them already, I cant imagine too many people wanting to buy a Standard resolution DVD release of something they already have .

I think I will wait a while until they try this again. I hope they do give this another go and next time they really do go all out to make it as visually exciting as it can be. The current work is a good start but by no means the finished article in my book.

The effects still need working on lots more can be changed and added to and I would hope it will eventually be released on Blue Ray. Then and only then will it be worth buying again.

89. Sean4000 - May 23, 2008

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