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	<title>Comments on: Shatner On Abrams, Pine, STV and 1992 MTV Movie Awards</title>
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		<title>By: King Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11-

“The question is: Is it still alive, or is it time for all of us to move on?”

[That’s the difference between those who love Star Trek, and those who just got paid to do it.]

No, that&#039;s the difference between those who get rich and famous doing it, as opposed to those who watch it and talk about those who see it as a job, not an obsession.</description>
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<p>“The question is: Is it still alive, or is it time for all of us to move on?”</p>
<p>[That’s the difference between those who love Star Trek, and those who just got paid to do it.]</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s the difference between those who get rich and famous doing it, as opposed to those who watch it and talk about those who see it as a job, not an obsession.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO this movie will do well without Shatner. 
There will always be fans that believe he should have been in it regardless of the salary, regardless of the storyline, regardless of the character&#039;s death in &quot;Generations&quot;... and that is their right.
I want a good movie that suspends disbelief, holds my interest, intrigues me and ultimately is good Star Trek. 
Shatner lost me twice. The first time was gradual... the last 2 or three TOS-based filmed... he wasn&#039;t playing Kirk. He second time was when he agreed to kill Kirk for a fat check. I felt that was a sell out.
And now he&#039;s disappointed he&#039;s not in this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO this movie will do well without Shatner.<br />
There will always be fans that believe he should have been in it regardless of the salary, regardless of the storyline, regardless of the character&#8217;s death in &#8220;Generations&#8221;&#8230; and that is their right.<br />
I want a good movie that suspends disbelief, holds my interest, intrigues me and ultimately is good Star Trek.<br />
Shatner lost me twice. The first time was gradual&#8230; the last 2 or three TOS-based filmed&#8230; he wasn&#8217;t playing Kirk. He second time was when he agreed to kill Kirk for a fat check. I felt that was a sell out.<br />
And now he&#8217;s disappointed he&#8217;s not in this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>compassionate god
final warning for trolling

I have warned repeatedly about throwing around labels like haters and your notion that only those who agree with you are real fans

everyone here is a star trek fan...you do not determine which one are real fans and which one are &#039;fans&#039; in quotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>compassionate god<br />
final warning for trolling</p>
<p>I have warned repeatedly about throwing around labels like haters and your notion that only those who agree with you are real fans</p>
<p>everyone here is a star trek fan&#8230;you do not determine which one are real fans and which one are &#8216;fans&#8217; in quotes.</p>
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		<title>By: COMPASSIONATE GOD</title>
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		<dc:creator>COMPASSIONATE GOD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:23. lostrod - May 28, 2008 
&quot;Pretty much the same answer to the same question again. Hardly sounds like sour grapes to me.&quot;

Agreed. Of course, some will take anything about Shatner and turn it into a negative. 

&quot;Based on the poor performance of the franchise in recent years, his question about moving on is relevant. Note that he’s asking, not stating, that it’s time to move on.&quot;

Shatner is correct. Berman&#039;s era ended with the very public fan abandonment of Enterprise (not to mention a certain cast member&#039;s comment on the finale) and the final TNG movie earning less than any previous Trek movie.

Clearly, the public arrived at Shatner&#039;s guess, and turned it into reality by leaving Trek a cold, empty corpse pleasing to only a few die-hards.



&quot;He certainly had compliments for Mr. Abrams.&quot;

Ah, but the Shatner haters will ignore that.

&quot;Regarding his brief meeting with Mr. Pine: since no one here knows the circumstance of that meeting it’s unfair to judge.&quot;

Being fair? To Shatner? Let&#039;s not ask for the impossible from some &quot;fans.&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:23. lostrod &#8211; May 28, 2008<br />
&#8220;Pretty much the same answer to the same question again. Hardly sounds like sour grapes to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. Of course, some will take anything about Shatner and turn it into a negative. </p>
<p>&#8220;Based on the poor performance of the franchise in recent years, his question about moving on is relevant. Note that he’s asking, not stating, that it’s time to move on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shatner is correct. Berman&#8217;s era ended with the very public fan abandonment of Enterprise (not to mention a certain cast member&#8217;s comment on the finale) and the final TNG movie earning less than any previous Trek movie.</p>
<p>Clearly, the public arrived at Shatner&#8217;s guess, and turned it into reality by leaving Trek a cold, empty corpse pleasing to only a few die-hards.</p>
<p>&#8220;He certainly had compliments for Mr. Abrams.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, but the Shatner haters will ignore that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Regarding his brief meeting with Mr. Pine: since no one here knows the circumstance of that meeting it’s unfair to judge.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being fair? To Shatner? Let&#8217;s not ask for the impossible from some &#8220;fans.&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
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		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: SciFiMetalGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>SciFiMetalGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sean, I think you hit the nail on the head about ST:V... everything was just a little bit off kilter. The story, the acting, the fx, heck, even the Enterprise was out of wack!

So yeah, what any of that has to do with compromises, I dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sean, I think you hit the nail on the head about ST:V&#8230; everything was just a little bit off kilter. The story, the acting, the fx, heck, even the Enterprise was out of wack!</p>
<p>So yeah, what any of that has to do with compromises, I dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and for some reason part of my comment #54 was cut off. It should say &#039;As long as the characters are right, I&#039;m willing to swallow some fishy storylines.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and for some reason part of my comment #54 was cut off. It should say &#8216;As long as the characters are right, I&#8217;m willing to swallow some fishy storylines.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#55

William Shatner was the one who said &#039;I don&#039;t do cameos&#039;. So I&#039;d say he was the one that prevented such an appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#55</p>
<p>William Shatner was the one who said &#8216;I don&#8217;t do cameos&#8217;. So I&#8217;d say he was the one that prevented such an appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to say that William Shatner&#039;s omission from the upcoming Movie is also now being picked up in the U.K. media here.

What a pity that the early good-will publicity that could have been generated by one more team-up of an &#039;Elderly&#039; Captain Kirk and an &#039;Elderly&#039; Spock, has instead focused on the fact that this Movie is probably &#039;missing something&#039; in the minds of folks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to say that William Shatner&#8217;s omission from the upcoming Movie is also now being picked up in the U.K. media here.</p>
<p>What a pity that the early good-will publicity that could have been generated by one more team-up of an &#8216;Elderly&#8217; Captain Kirk and an &#8216;Elderly&#8217; Spock, has instead focused on the fact that this Movie is probably &#8216;missing something&#8217; in the minds of folks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>47. cagmar - May 29, 2008
&quot;That’s it. Kirk’s in XI: “I’m solidly behind being disappointed that I’m not in it.”&quot;

The character of Kirk has &quot;been in it&quot; from the beginning.

Oh, you mean Shatner... unless he&#039;s been lying to the press and in his latest book AND JJ fibbed.... well, don&#039;t hold your breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>47. cagmar &#8211; May 29, 2008<br />
&#8220;That’s it. Kirk’s in XI: “I’m solidly behind being disappointed that I’m not in it.”&#8221;</p>
<p>The character of Kirk has &#8220;been in it&#8221; from the beginning.</p>
<p>Oh, you mean Shatner&#8230; unless he&#8217;s been lying to the press and in his latest book AND JJ fibbed&#8230;. well, don&#8217;t hold your breath.</p>
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