More From Saldana On Minis, Pine & Quinto, and Hailing Frequencies

Wow.

#2 And I was waiting for a PG or PG-13 ;-)

FIFTH!!!

Ha, she seems cool.

“I really hope that the fans embrace their interpretation of Kirk and Spock.”

Zachary Quinto is more likely going to play spock like Nimoy which fans will more likely embrace.
But, I do not think Fans will embrace Pine’s Indiana Kirk or his James T. Solo.

the actor saying they are going honor the past actors versions of the characters, But Pine is so off-base.

I has one star wars and Indy line to say about this film and that is:
“I have a bad feeling about this!”

I am not sure I can ever accept Pine and Quinto as Kirk and Spock. I can enjoy their performances as those characters but how are we to accept new actors in these iconic roles after 42 years? Shatner and Nimoy will only be Kirk and Spock.

Quinto is going to be at Vegas on stage with Leonard Nimoy. I want to grill him about the movie. i want to make sure we are getting proper Star Trek and not Abrams version that will be more like Lost.

To me Pine dishonoured Shatner by saying he is basing Kirk on Harrison Ford and Quinto contradicted himself by saying the new movie honours original Trek while reimagining it.

With comments like this I have a bad feeling JJ Abrams is crapping over the show we all love. I hope to god Im wrong. I really want to like this film. I am now convinced this is a reboot.

To me the difference with Bond is that he started as a character in the novel and there was around a decade for each actor. It became a tradition. To me I thought Star Trek would never be recast because of it’s spin offs.

I can enjoy them playing the roles but growing up with all Star Trek it will really hurt me when the books and merchandising forget about Shatner and Nimoy and use Pine and Quinto’s likeness for future TOS novels. I wnat to like the new actors but Pine’s comment really dishonoured Shatner.

I really want this film to work but JJ Abrams has me so worried that I want Rick Berman back now.

Is recasting a good idea? is going back to TOS a good idea? To me the main concern I have is that JJ is putting a stronger emphasis on making this appeal to the mainstream audience who aren’t fans. Given JJ’s language it seems he is going all out to get that mainstream and to hell with the hard core fan base of Trek. This thinking has me worried.

To date the only reboot or reimagining that worked was the new BSG.

“I really want this film to work but JJ Abrams has me so worried that I want Rick Berman back now.”

So.. you’d rather the franchise sink further than possibly being revitalized.

“I wnat to like the new actors but Pine’s comment really dishonoured Shatner.”

Which comment was that? I remember no such thing.

“Given JJ’s language it seems he is going all out to get that mainstream and to hell with the hard core fan base of Trek.”

He’s never said that and that’s pretty unfair to him. That seems to be just your interpretation, which as I say, is pretty unfair.

I guess it is a little unfair, I guess I read too much into JJ Abram’s language. I was opposed to Casion Royale being a reboot but it turned out to be one of the better Bond films in recent years. I hope the same is true for Trek.

Pine’s comment about playing it like Harrison Ford where as the other actors are honouring the original proper actors felt like an insult to Shatner.

Can you accept Pine and Quinto as Kirk and Spock? Do you think they will do justice to the characters? They might do justice but I dont want people to forget William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy made these roles.

Does this mean that future Star Trek TOS novels will have Pine and Quinto on the covers rather than Shatner and Nimoy?

I guess what is really scary is the thought the timeline will be altered to retcon the original series so that this movie’s time line becomes gospel and GR’s Star Trek no longer exists. This is what scares me.

All this bickering and whining about the film is getting far too silly now, as someone said in an earlier post, ‘Judging Chris Pine before seeing his performance is just plain stupid.’
It’s like the end of a sports season, for example I am from England and when the domestic Football (soccer to the Americans) season ends everyone gets really bored and starts making up stories about players moving and signing for other clubs. 9 times out of 10 it just doesn’t happen.
Now, I’m not say to stop giving your own views, I like to speculate and gossip as much as the next guy, but some people on here seem to be so wound up and worried about what may and may not happen, believeing EVERYTHING they read and hear about the film. My advice to those people is to just not bother going to see it as you may have a heart attack, irrespective of the film being good or bad.
My point is no-one is going to have a constructive view of the film, and of how the actors honor the past until they have watched the whole bloody thing with there own eyes.

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I agree with you

I know i sound negative but I really do want to like this film. Its the young ones who watch this and they will prob watch this film and love it and never watch the Original Series or TNG or DS9, VOY and ENT for being not like the movie.

I can imagine one of those kids being asked who created Star Trek and they would answer JJ Abrams. The anger on my face then would put Bruce Banner to shame. Say what you want about Berman but he always mentioned Gene’s name and his name was kept in the credits of the later spin offs

In the British press it annoyed me when Russel T Davies was credited as Creator of Doctor Who, where as it was Sydney newman back in 1963.

She can open my hailing frequencies anytime.

It still amazes me that people think JJ is only making a movie for the mainstream audience when everything he has said is about him making a movie that follows canon and will be enjoyed by true Star Trek fans, and how the two writers are huge trekkies. It’s like people only read half of JJ’s comments and then start to cry and moan.

Please know I want to love this film. Just hope he does Justice to Trek

She seems like a really cool and smart lady. The longer interview is worth a read, especially her thoughts on Nichols and being an unintentioal role model.

I dont mind the sets being a tweaked a little, but I don’t want them to look completely different from the one swe love. Enterprise proved that it could be done in a way to look m ore advance than the NX 01.

The colour scheme could be kept and made more subdue. I will probably be relieved when I see the film.

Do you think after the movie hits the novels of TOS will feature the likenesses of Pine and Quinto instead of Shatner and Nimoy? This is one thing I cannot accept. Period.

Good grief people!

“Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly etc. WERE Kirk, Spock, McCoy ” errr. NO.

They were actors playing a part, that’s all, just actors, you may have seen them in other TV shows occasionally, “oh look there’s Captain Kirk in Boston legal”… I’m sure Mr Shatner would comment on that if he heard you say it.

What a load of tosh, Look, Doctor Who has had TEN actors playing the part on TV, (and no, the doctor wasn’t first a character in a book).

Each of the versions of the Doctor was the same character but with a different body (as it’s a different actor). Each interpretation was different, some were amazing some not so, and each incarnation of the Doctor has its own fans. I personally like Tom Baker’s version best, (he was the fourth by the way!) others, like David Tennant – the current Doctor, are fans of Peter Davidson’s Doctor (the Fifth one), personally I don’t like that Doctor that much.

So the chances are that you may or may not like this version of Star Trek, it’s not going to spoil anything you’ll still have all the original TV shows, all the books and you can even imagine your favourite Kirks face when (if) you read a “new” TOS era books that are bound to be published.

What I think I’m trying to say is that this version going to be different, maybe very different, you may like it or you may not, accept that and enjoy it for what it is, you may just be pleasantly surprised.

Long live Captain Kirk – which ever actor plays the Role!! ( I just hope i like him/her…)

I prob will like it when it comes out

#32

Probably because this is a site covering 40 years of Star Trek, the new film only having a miniscule part in the legacy.

This new girl playing Uhura is really hot. I believe I will like her.

Can I ask out of curioisty what is the cross section for fans liking JJ or hating what he is changing?

#40. Just to clarify — I meant my “blecch” for #39, not for Zoe Saldana.

I’m staggered by some of the disparaging remarks here (actually, i’m not, I’m wearily jaded!) Kirk, Spock and McCoy started out out on the printed page too: a script. Realistically, Shatner played Kirk for three years on TV, voiced a short 1970s cartoon for 22 episodes, while basically doing other things, then played Kirk as the lead in six films across 13 years, while he also did other work. He then guested in Generations.

I’d argue that, right now, William Shatner is better known as ‘William Shatner’ than ‘Captain Kirk’. Chris Pine has every right to draw inspiration from wherever he wants to to play Kirk. As a younger actor, he’s going to be influenced by different actors from those who influenced Shatner’s performance. If you take the approach that only one person can ever play a character originated in a script, then Shakespeare’s plays couldn’t have been performed after their debut.

There’s a somewhat blinkered attitude among a certain number of Trek ‘fans’ who think Star Trek is ‘special’. They think it’s so ‘special’ that it operates according to different rules in the everyday commercial world from any other franchise. Some Doctor Who fans feel the same about their show. Some Superman fans feel that way about Superman.

The fact is, Star Trek isn’t ‘special’. It’s a multimedia franchise designed to make its owners money, just like all the others. It’s benefited from some excellent writing and performances down the years and has had a big impact on many people. But so have Doctor Who and Superman and Twin Peaks and Stargate and Sesame Street and Buffy, the Vampire Slayer and countless other franchises! Star Trek has to play to the same rules as those shows and pretty much always has done!

And all this pompous rubbish about actors ‘disrespecting’ their predecessors! I mean really! Grow up! They’re actors who have been hired to play a role and they’ll put their hearts and souls into it. Different actors bring out different aspects of the characters, leading to us, the paying audience reexamining how we perceive them. That’s normal and that’s good. Why would I want Patrick Stewart’s Macbeth to be an exact rendition of Jon Finch’s performance? If people can’t deal with the new cast, they should stay in their smelly basements and not ruin it for everyone else.

As for the new film’s time travelling ‘destroying’ all past Star Trek; what garbage! Are the firemen from Fahrenheit 451 going to turn up and incinerate every Start Trek VHS, DVD, novel, comic and model ever made?

Everything still exists and will continue to exist for centuries to come! If anything, this film will create a ‘Universe 2’ where new adventures can take place without having to tie in directly to the events of all the other Treks. This happens in comic books and is a far less brutal form of ‘reboot’ than just ignoring everything that went before!

By the time Star Trek: Enterprise finished, the makers of the show had detailed events in Star Trek going from the 1960s all the way up to the 30th century! There was nothing left in Star Trek that could be surprising. There was even a neat little far future police force making sure that the Federation, which, dubiously, still somehow exists after nearly 1,000 years doesn’t mess with its own history.

If all that baggage is thrown out of the window, then great! if we can go back to having fun adventures with Kirk, Spock and McCoy, not knowing what might happen next, then Star Trek will be fully alive and vibrant again.

Zoe Saldana will give an excellent performance as Uhura, I’m sure. I hear the new female costumes will be a little more ‘bosomy’ than before. That’s good too: TOS was always sexy and had a youthful quality. it’ll be nice to see that brought out in a movie at last.

I’d love to see a scene where Kirk says: ‘Hailing frequencies open Lt Uhura!’ and she replies ‘F*** yeah!’

Andrus#38- You need to work on your delivery – that was over the line.

#40
Well, I for one like being informed about something that’s very important to me. TOS is very important to me. The new film will be based on TOS. Not too difficult to understand, I should assume. ;) Furthermore, some people tend to express their views even if they’re in opposition to others, and also like to read and answer other posts. It’s called discussion…:)

#44
Kelley never played McKoy, but he will always be McCoy.

Deal with it. :)

#44 Exactly. Plus, we’ve already had others portray Kirk and Spock. Kirk was portrayed by Sandra Smith during TOS. Spock was portrayed by a number of young actors in the movies, although “aaaaaaaaarrrrrr” is probably not dialog to the degree Smith delivered.

Smith was convincing as Kirk, so clearly, others can portray Kirk.