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		<title>By: Bubba Smiffs</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/06/03/alien-spoilers/comment-page-2/#comment-3038606</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba Smiffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys may be interested in this page. It&#039;s all about the actress who ended up playing &quot;Kelvin Alien&quot; in Star Trek 2009.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kasia-Kowalczyk-Fan-Page/123484007710919</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys may be interested in this page. It&#8217;s all about the actress who ended up playing &#8220;Kelvin Alien&#8221; in Star Trek 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: 7 of 5</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/06/03/alien-spoilers/comment-page-2/#comment-728834</link>
		<dc:creator>7 of 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could be considered a spoiler even though it&#039;s extrapolated from fact....
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Being spoiled has never affected my experience of watching  a movie, one way or the other. I read the novelizations of the first 3 Star Trek movies before their theatrical premieres and stilll thoroughly enjoyed the experience of the actual movies.

As to Trek 09, it&#039;s admirable that JJ Abrams wants to try to keep it under a cloak of secrecy and he&#039;s done a pretty good job of it so far. The only real problems in maintaining the secrecy is the sheer amount of product offshoots relevant to the movie.

There will be a novelization, of course. It probably will be released shortly after the movie, but authors, editors, office people, publishers, printers and shippers will all have some prior access in advance of May of 2009.

There might be a comic adaptation, increasing the number of folks &#039;in the know&#039;.

There will be &#039;making of&#039; articles and videos.

All it will take is one source with the goods who is willing to spoil anonymously and it&#039;s all over. I would expect Abrams to be forced into some form of damage control before Xmas of 2008.

As to my read as to what Abrams will do with Trek -and this is wholly uninformed specualtion to be sure-

Time travel is a given for the plot to work.

Time travel has always been Star Trek&#039;s ultimate reset switch.

That reset switch will be used to &#039;reboot&#039; the franchise, erasing the &#039;history&#039; of Trek as we know it, giving Abrams free reign to reshape Trek events and circumstances without having to worry too much about canon. Canon will become nothing more than an abstract blueprint in the reshaped Trek universe.

Given what we&#039;ve found out thus far, it is the only approach that makes sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be considered a spoiler even though it&#8217;s extrapolated from fact&#8230;.<br />
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<p>Being spoiled has never affected my experience of watching  a movie, one way or the other. I read the novelizations of the first 3 Star Trek movies before their theatrical premieres and stilll thoroughly enjoyed the experience of the actual movies.</p>
<p>As to Trek 09, it&#8217;s admirable that JJ Abrams wants to try to keep it under a cloak of secrecy and he&#8217;s done a pretty good job of it so far. The only real problems in maintaining the secrecy is the sheer amount of product offshoots relevant to the movie.</p>
<p>There will be a novelization, of course. It probably will be released shortly after the movie, but authors, editors, office people, publishers, printers and shippers will all have some prior access in advance of May of 2009.</p>
<p>There might be a comic adaptation, increasing the number of folks &#8216;in the know&#8217;.</p>
<p>There will be &#8216;making of&#8217; articles and videos.</p>
<p>All it will take is one source with the goods who is willing to spoil anonymously and it&#8217;s all over. I would expect Abrams to be forced into some form of damage control before Xmas of 2008.</p>
<p>As to my read as to what Abrams will do with Trek -and this is wholly uninformed specualtion to be sure-</p>
<p>Time travel is a given for the plot to work.</p>
<p>Time travel has always been Star Trek&#8217;s ultimate reset switch.</p>
<p>That reset switch will be used to &#8216;reboot&#8217; the franchise, erasing the &#8216;history&#8217; of Trek as we know it, giving Abrams free reign to reshape Trek events and circumstances without having to worry too much about canon. Canon will become nothing more than an abstract blueprint in the reshaped Trek universe.</p>
<p>Given what we&#8217;ve found out thus far, it is the only approach that makes sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps they could work a Medusan into the script... and then Shatner&#039;s cameo could be where he looks at it and goes insane...

Or they could expand somewhat on idea from one of Shatner&#039;s ST novels and have him be resurrected by the Borg...

I am LoKirktus of Borg... Resistance is futile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps they could work a Medusan into the script&#8230; and then Shatner&#8217;s cameo could be where he looks at it and goes insane&#8230;</p>
<p>Or they could expand somewhat on idea from one of Shatner&#8217;s ST novels and have him be resurrected by the Borg&#8230;</p>
<p>I am LoKirktus of Borg&#8230; Resistance is futile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daoud</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/06/03/alien-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-728178</link>
		<dc:creator>Daoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48 But, time travel this time is really the MacGuffin here.

It&#039;s a reasonable means to an end: to tell an &quot;origin story&quot; for the original series, that never appeared on screen.  It&#039;s the &quot;final frontier&quot; of Trek, to look back at the early days of Kirk and Spock, something we&#039;ve all wanted to have a look at for forty years.

One expects that most of the events of the movie we&#039;ll see, would have played out almost exactly the same whether Nero and Old Spock were there or not.  At least, it wouldn&#039;t be impossible to script it that way:  sort of a &quot;Star Trek: A Christmas Carol.&quot;

Old Spock becomes Scrooge revisiting with Nero, the Ghost of Romulans Past... or something like that.  Now I&#039;m wishing there were a cameo for Patrick Stewart as Admiral Picard, counseling Nimoy&#039;s Spock before he goes back to the past...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48 But, time travel this time is really the MacGuffin here.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a reasonable means to an end: to tell an &#8220;origin story&#8221; for the original series, that never appeared on screen.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;final frontier&#8221; of Trek, to look back at the early days of Kirk and Spock, something we&#8217;ve all wanted to have a look at for forty years.</p>
<p>One expects that most of the events of the movie we&#8217;ll see, would have played out almost exactly the same whether Nero and Old Spock were there or not.  At least, it wouldn&#8217;t be impossible to script it that way:  sort of a &#8220;Star Trek: A Christmas Carol.&#8221;</p>
<p>Old Spock becomes Scrooge revisiting with Nero, the Ghost of Romulans Past&#8230; or something like that.  Now I&#8217;m wishing there were a cameo for Patrick Stewart as Admiral Picard, counseling Nimoy&#8217;s Spock before he goes back to the past&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shenkle McDoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shenkle McDoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit I am greatly disapointed by the news that “time travel” is going to play a role in the movie! No matter what percentage of stories from TOS, the movies or other series were based on it, it (being time travel) is a cliched, poor and weak plot device that lacks imagination. The fans that made Star Trek what is is deserve more than this! Don’t get me wrong. Time travel, in the beggining was a novel idea; TOS Guardian of Forever, The Terminator (ONLY the first one) and even Back to the Future were great, well written movies, but this plot device looses its profoundness quickly. 

I miss when storied delved into the characterization of the actual characters and made them the HEROES we grew up believing in and tried to be like. We can better relate to our favorite character if he or she is facing a problem that is not COMPLETELY outside the realm of possibility for us to face ourselves. I’m not saying that you or I will be comanding a starship and be able to make the same decisions that Captain Kirk makes, but we may well be in the possition of commanding others and hence be responsible for their safety. There are a lot of people out there, that grew up looking up to the good Captain, whom hold jobs and have careers just like that. I do know this: none of us will EVER be in the possision of traveling through time! That being so, I don’t give a frog’s fat butt what fictitious time travelers are up to. Give us something that our suspension of disbelief can actually suspend. After all that is one of the things that always made Star Trek stand out for me; The characters, technology and situations may have been fictitious, but they were believable and inspiring. 

Well, that’s all I have to vent about. I’ll still be at the front of the line when the movie is released. I just hope a bunch of greedy hollywood producer types don’t ruin this for me and all of you. I REALLY hope my fears are Wrong and nothing would make me happier to admit I was wrong about all this. 

Until the truth presents itself,
Live long and prosper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit I am greatly disapointed by the news that “time travel” is going to play a role in the movie! No matter what percentage of stories from TOS, the movies or other series were based on it, it (being time travel) is a cliched, poor and weak plot device that lacks imagination. The fans that made Star Trek what is is deserve more than this! Don’t get me wrong. Time travel, in the beggining was a novel idea; TOS Guardian of Forever, The Terminator (ONLY the first one) and even Back to the Future were great, well written movies, but this plot device looses its profoundness quickly. </p>
<p>I miss when storied delved into the characterization of the actual characters and made them the HEROES we grew up believing in and tried to be like. We can better relate to our favorite character if he or she is facing a problem that is not COMPLETELY outside the realm of possibility for us to face ourselves. I’m not saying that you or I will be comanding a starship and be able to make the same decisions that Captain Kirk makes, but we may well be in the possition of commanding others and hence be responsible for their safety. There are a lot of people out there, that grew up looking up to the good Captain, whom hold jobs and have careers just like that. I do know this: none of us will EVER be in the possision of traveling through time! That being so, I don’t give a frog’s fat butt what fictitious time travelers are up to. Give us something that our suspension of disbelief can actually suspend. After all that is one of the things that always made Star Trek stand out for me; The characters, technology and situations may have been fictitious, but they were believable and inspiring. </p>
<p>Well, that’s all I have to vent about. I’ll still be at the front of the line when the movie is released. I just hope a bunch of greedy hollywood producer types don’t ruin this for me and all of you. I REALLY hope my fears are Wrong and nothing would make me happier to admit I was wrong about all this. </p>
<p>Until the truth presents itself,<br />
Live long and prosper.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherPike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristopherPike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get me Jeffrey Combs&#039; agent! Shran not getting a cameo in this film would be an outrage... (wink).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get me Jeffrey Combs&#8217; agent! Shran not getting a cameo in this film would be an outrage&#8230; (wink).</p>
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		<title>By: Daoud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelvan vs. Kelvin... Illiteracy kills.

And provides countless &quot;tips&quot;.  After having the USS Pasteur, the USS Kelvin is just fine: after all, he is the one who said circa 1900 that everything that would ever be discovered in physics had now been discovered.  Methinks this means the USS Kelvin might just be steam-powered.

But gee, in science, we use kelvin all the time.  As a matter of fact, right now, it&#039;s about 284 kelvins and rainy outside here in Maine.  And about 1 gee, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelvan vs. Kelvin&#8230; Illiteracy kills.</p>
<p>And provides countless &#8220;tips&#8221;.  After having the USS Pasteur, the USS Kelvin is just fine: after all, he is the one who said circa 1900 that everything that would ever be discovered in physics had now been discovered.  Methinks this means the USS Kelvin might just be steam-powered.</p>
<p>But gee, in science, we use kelvin all the time.  As a matter of fact, right now, it&#8217;s about 284 kelvins and rainy outside here in Maine.  And about 1 gee, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JB Gestl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB Gestl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 &quot;J W Wright — YES! I agree 100%. Andorians have *got* to be in this movie, they’re the greatest.&quot;

There will be one in the theater at least, when I see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 &#8220;J W Wright — YES! I agree 100%. Andorians have *got* to be in this movie, they’re the greatest.&#8221;</p>
<p>There will be one in the theater at least, when I see it!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelinda had it going on!</description>
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		<title>By: Jackson Roykirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Roykirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s amusing that most aliens that take over human bodies  in TOS just &quot;become human&quot; and forget their original mission and universal concept.  On one hand, it&#039;s a reflection of American Cultural Imperialism: if they just experience our look and feel, they&#039;ll want to be more like us.  On the other hand, it&#039;s probably what would actually happen to real aliens taking over humans.

Non-sequitur: This is why I think the whole meatware Cylon story in BSG is a bore, no matter how hot Number 6 looks in a red dress.  Nothing kills suspense like a weak, conflicted enemy.  &quot;I used to be a husband and a father.  Now I don&#039;t know WHAT I am...&quot;  Feh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s amusing that most aliens that take over human bodies  in TOS just &#8220;become human&#8221; and forget their original mission and universal concept.  On one hand, it&#8217;s a reflection of American Cultural Imperialism: if they just experience our look and feel, they&#8217;ll want to be more like us.  On the other hand, it&#8217;s probably what would actually happen to real aliens taking over humans.</p>
<p>Non-sequitur: This is why I think the whole meatware Cylon story in BSG is a bore, no matter how hot Number 6 looks in a red dress.  Nothing kills suspense like a weak, conflicted enemy.  &#8220;I used to be a husband and a father.  Now I don&#8217;t know WHAT I am&#8230;&#8221;  Feh.</p>
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