the idea of ezri as a captain? i can see it…echoing jadzia in a way…

id loved to have seen the deep space nine millennium trilogy made into a movie series…those was THE BEST TREK NOVELS EVER!

as for if jj’s new films canon or not…remember in tos’s original canon zefram cochrane broke the warp barrier in 2061 not 2063 and world war 3 was in the 1990s…so it could be said due to that and other things that jjs 23rd century canon is in line with the 2063 angle and that the defiant from kirks time that was in line with in a mirror, darkly was an alternate-timeline/ 2061 canon version…meaning shatner as kirk canon as we know it i.e. tos…was another timeline and jjs tos canon is in line with most of modern trek…

another angle is tuvoks statement in ‘flashback’…when he said holoimaging was much less accurate in the 23rd century…implying that the tos crew we knew actually looked like jjs cast instead of the original version..it could imply that janeway being shocked that sulu looked as he did meant she thought he looked like john cho instead of takei which could imply the reverse too which creates an interweaving paradox

but wat id love to see as a future trek film is jj weaving a story of how the existence of star trek in the here and now factors into the internal trek universe…maybe have him say a temporal agent from daniels’ time went back in time and became gene roddenberrys father using future knowledge of trek events over the centuries to get young gene to create star trek and create an archive of trek events to be consulted by rick berman and jj etc.,…??? in order to help provide a blueprint for how the course of time should play out, even helping to create a psuedo-masonic secret society that later would evolve into section 31 and the department of temporal investigations, protecting and interpreting future events in a davici code-esque way…LOL

Oh my /god/, yes. I would pay actual money– not that much of it, because I’m a college student here, but I would pay– to see Greg Cox’s “Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh” books declared canon somehow. Those books were brilliant.

Also Peter David’s “Q-Squared.” I hoped for years that it would get turned into a TNG movie somehow; I think it was a fantastic piece both of Star Trek storytelling and of scifi writing overall. (Though I’ll admit the concept wouldn’t've worked as well with characters for which we didn’t already have a lot of context.)

When you don’t like all that spin-offs, why do you post?

I for my person still like the most spin-offs, even with the new Star Trek coming in May 09 and I think, I will like the old ones and the new one as well. The books might be not official canon, but some of them are pretty good and would have made good additional episodes or entire seasons for all the spin-offs, even for the original Star Trek.

After the very good Season 4 it was really a shame, Paramount canceled Enterprise. It was worth a fifth season. Perhaps CBS shoud do a TV-movie like MGM did with the Stargate-franchise after cancelling SG-1.

BTW: The Destiny series sounds interesting. Titan, Enterprise-E, Columbia and the Borg… I wonder what kind of movie that would be (Perhaps a suggestion for Star Trek XIV Mr. Orci? :))

#32:
“….and the last ep couldve seen Archer and Tpol at the launch of the NCC 1701 – watching it blast out the space dock..maybe with a very young spock on board….” MY REPLY to that absolutely astonishing idea:

WOW! “And His Eyes Were Opened…!”

You have an AMAZING idea there that would have made a TREMENDOUS series finale (–far better than TATV actually turned out to be–), where the elder Archer is present at the launch of the NCC-1701 (the day before his peaceful passing in upstate New York—according to words by Sussman), and with elder T’Pol looking on as well…. Seeing JJ’s crew with Capt. Pike [Bruce Greenwood cameoing] and the young TOS series cast [JJ's cast] in such a cross-over story, and even having LEONARD NIMOY also guest-starring in his time-travel story line from ST-XI as written by Roberto and Alex…… I can just see that happening—perhaps even having the episode directed by JJ himself! Talk about “mind-blowing,” it would bring a total and complete link between ENT and TOS, and beyond. (And just where WAS Guinan during all of that?)

Hey, we’ve already had numerous “cross-over” episodes and films:

—-TNG/DS9 crossovers: McCoy (and later, Scotty) aboard the 1701-D, Sarek and Spock, Picard meeting Kirk in ST-7, etc.
—-DS9’s pilot episode began w/ the Battle of Wolf 359 in a flashback; TNG/DS9 crossovers (TNG crew visited a few times, “Thomas” Riker, Vash and Q, Worf, etc….), and the TRIBBLES [Orb-of-Time] incident,
—-VGR’s pilot episode has them docked at DS9 with Harry Kim and Tom Paris meeting Quark, “Flashback” showed Tuvok aboard Sulu’s USS Excelcior, then when Q had Will Riker whisked aboard the USS Voyager, and the many Q episodes, Borg stories, BOOTHBY! [Species 8472's recreation of him, anyway], Barclay and Troi seen during Season-7, etc.
—-ENT crossovers: “Section 31″ (harkening to future DS9 stories), the characters SURAK and [younger] T’PAU of Vulcan, and the biggest ENT crossover story: “In A Mirror, Darkly” (w/ Zephram Cochran, an ENTIRE Tholian, and a different species of Gorn, shown — and the USS Defiant from Kirk’s era …. Who couldn’t help but smile a parsec wide when the evil universe ENT crew put on those TOS uniforms…? Truly an episode to remember!

And maybe I forgot to mention other good ones!

WOW: imagine the incredible cross-over story that could have been, with Archer and T’Pol at the launch of the NCC-1701 — that would most certainly have been an excellent SERIES Finale, as well as a tie-in to ST XI, just like the 2-part Spock story on TNG was a direct tie-in to ST-VI. (I’ll always like Riker and Troi, but something about TATV just doesn’t sit right with me as a “SERIES Finale” for ENT. A Season Finale, maybe—but not a Series Finale.)

Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, there still can be a good ENT Series Finale made: with such an ENT / ST-XI crossover story as suggested. Manny Coto & Co. would probably want to weigh in, and Roberto and Alex are the kinds professional writers and fans of ST’s 300-year saga who would want such input. So, Roberto, what do you guys think about that one? Please respond; our hailing frequencies are wide open! (If that sounds like an inpromtu Pitch Session—without a script to sell, so be it. With ENT not filming more stories, so far, we can’t get enough of GOOD Star Trek these days. At least not until May 2009!)

Apologies if this is someone from earlier books, or something; I’ve gotten waayy far behind on Trek novels. College :(

In addition to what everyone has said above about the character developing over time and evolving well in the DS9 Relaunch books, there’s two things we need to remember:

1- Ezri was an unprepared host, she didn’t have years of training before she was given the symbiont. There was massive character development in her confidence, competence and ability between “Shadows and Symbols” and “What You Leave Behind”.

2- She’s a Dax. Nine lifetimes of experience: decades as a Starfleet officer including fighting in several wars; commanded starships in war; negotiated treaties between dozen of blood enemies; and yes, been a counselor- to me, all the right experience to be a first rate starship commander…..

…………………………………..once she got used to the symbiont that is!

My 2 cents

Rimmoldad

I believe the “…will be changed forever!” was on the back of “A Time for War, A Time for Peace” too, but I can’t say I agree with that. I really liked the book, though.