Comments on: Orci & Kurtzman Talk Why Chose TOS Prequel + Shatner

By: andrea

andrea — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:47:09 +0000

if they bring back old kirk, they will color the shatner eyes to keep the same colour of Pine? pine have blue eyes, shatner have brown eyes!
what do you think, minor or major problem?

By: Shatner won’t be in 2009 “Trek” flick; here’s why, and his reaction | MINE

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:35:30 +0000

[...] Now Shatner is legendary for his ego … and while this might be a performance/persona he puts on for outsiders, there’s no arguing he has that rep. And according to TrekMovie.com, Shatner has publicly stated that he doesn’t do cameo roles. [...]

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:23:25 +0000

Wow. Still going?

By: Xai

Xai — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:05:49 +0000

455. Shatner_Fan_2000 – June 25, 2008

“So you agree with me that Shat is the most popular actor in Trek, and #452 did not dispute it, yet you’re both also telling me that the huge #s of posts in Shatner threads have nothing at all to due with that popularity!”

#452 has a name and I did not comment on that, so don’t put words in my mouth. My logic is fine. Yours keeps including information that you think I said or think I should say.
If you want numbers, I’ve added the last Shatner poll. Based on that I think your statement is not very strong.

How important is it to you that Shatner appear in Star Trek?
• Vital, won’t see film without him (5%)
• Very Important (16%)
• Would be nice, but not that important (44%)
• Don’t care (16%)
• Don’t want him in it (18%)
Total Votes: 500.

And please don’t assume I’ve said something or mean something just because I didn’t comment on it. I hate that.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:30:27 +0000

#455—”yet you’re both also telling me that the huge #s of posts in Shatner threads have nothing at all to due with that popularity!”

Actually, I wasn’t much part of that debate. Where I agree with him is in that there are just as many of us arguing either against his inclusion or for the writers’ creative integrity as there are those who demand his appearance, and that is every bit as significant to the number of posts on this thread (probably 40 or 50 of them are mine!).

“But to deny that Shat is a big draw for Trek fans is, as Spock once said to Scotty, a “wild leap of illogic.” ;-)

It’s perfectly natural that there are a significant number of fans that have yet to embrace the idea that you can have a Star Trek movie (in the TOS-era) without Bill Shatner.

As it is, 95% of those polled will still see the movie, and I’ll bet that the 5% who say they won’t will decrease in number as the film’s release gets closer and the promotion gets going.

By: Shatner_Fan_2000

Shatner_Fan_2000 — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:58:17 +0000

#454 … I understood. I wasn’t counting guest stars. They do not represent Star Trek in the minds of the public.

So you agree with me that Shat is the most popular actor in Trek, and #452 did not dispute it, yet you’re both also telling me that the huge #s of posts in Shatner threads have nothing at all to due with that popularity!

I find your logic most faulty. You guys can argue that he need not be in the new movie; that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But to deny that Shat is a big draw for Trek fans is, as Spock once said to Scotty, a “wild leap of illogic.” ;-)

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:45:07 +0000

#451—You obviously misunderstand my post. Of the regular cast members in any Trek series, Shatner is likely the most popular (although Nimoy is just as recognizable). As for “the most popular actor ever to appear in Star Trek” (which is what I was responding to), I would say Jean Simmons, Joan Collins, Corbin Bernson, Kelsey Grammar, Teri Garr, Christian Slater, Christopher Lloyd, Whoopi Goldberg, ….and I’ll stop there.

#452—Agreed.

By: Robert April

Robert April — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:42:55 +0000

452 “You cannot use the raw number of posts on a Shatner thread as gauge to measure his popularity.”

LOL, of course you can! At least in a non-scientific, general way.

By: Xai

Xai — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:47:51 +0000

451 Shatner_Fan

First… you don’t have to “buy” that. It’s my opinion based on the fact that if everyone here universally thought Shatner should be in it you’d have 40 posts.
No dissent= little discussion = few posts
Lots of dissent= lots of discussion = lots of posts.
There is smoke and fire because it’s a back and forth discussion about opposing points of view, not because Shatner is universally loved. No one is.
You cannot use the raw number of posts on a Shatner thread as gauge to measure his popularity.

By: Shatner_Fan_2000

Shatner_Fan_2000 — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:09:43 +0000

#450 I don’t buy that. When other threads attract 40 responses, and every Shat thread for the past year has generated 400 … well, where there’s smoke there’s fire.

#449 and #450 … name me any Trek actor more famous & popular than Shatner? That’s right. There isn’t one!