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Preview Image From “Requiem for Methuselah” Remastered June 19, 2008

by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: TOS-R Preview , trackback

Another week for Trek Remastered, another late third season episode, and another new digital element. CBS has just sent TrekMovie a shot of a new matte painting from "Requiem for Methuselah," airing this weekend

check it out below

 

Flint’s new castle
"Requiem for Methuselah" offers the CBS Digital team another chance to enhance a late third season episode by replacing a recycled shot. In this case they have created a new version of Flint’s castle to replace the re-use of a matte of Rigel VII from "The Cage." The new castle is a digital matte painting by Max Gabl from a design by Niel Wray.


Remastered (click to enlarge)


Original

The Remastered "Requiem for Methuselah" airs this weekend in syndication, check local listings. See ST.com for a list of stations

Comments

1. T Negative - June 19, 2008

That is quite an improvement!! What a great new shot this is!!

2. mojonaut - June 19, 2008

Beautiful painting. The little arches remind me of Villa Balbianello on Lake Como (one of my favourite places on the planet) which was used in Star Wars II and III

3. Rich - June 19, 2008

Wow, the painting looks great! A big improvement over the original reused matte painting.

4. RTC - June 19, 2008

Nicely done … keeps the spirit of the re-used “The Cage” matte while creating a unique setting.

5. Jason - June 19, 2008

Wow! Truly a great home for a man who has lived through the ages.

6. Captain Scokirk - June 19, 2008

It’s almost too nice, the interiors arent nearly that grand, in fact they look like they would fit in a more fortress like place (the rigelian palace) this looks like Theed palace/Belaggio Hotel , all of those windows and yet we will have dungeon like castle sets for this episode.

I will give them credit it’s a beautiful painting and far more suitable a design for a man of such immense talent who lived through the renaissance.

7. Gorn Captain - June 19, 2008

So, did Flint have this place custom built, and then used that suspended animation/shrink ray to make sure the contractors wouldn’t talk? ;)

8. SirMartman - June 19, 2008

They also make bloody great desktop screensavers you know,
Ive got afew good ones of the Enterprise too now.

:o )

9. Cyberghost - June 19, 2008

I think i remember seeing a flat panel tv in the castle while flint was spying on kirk and Spock, talk about looking ahead. And it stands up to what many of us have today in our living rooms. It looks like a 50 LCD TV. Cool stuff.

10. BritishStyleGalactica - June 19, 2008

It is a beautiful painting.
It does go to show how good the original was too.
The original doesn’t look to dated in comparison.

11. Izbot - June 19, 2008

Gorgeous! Very welcome, indeed! Love how it incorporates aspects of Italian Renaissance architecture. Bravo, CBS-D! I knew there was still some good stuff on the way (despite all my recent grumblings). This painting goes a long way to help create the plausibility of an immortal genius as Flint is described.

12. Orb of the Emissary - June 19, 2008

WOW! Simply beautiful…

13. Garovorkin - June 19, 2008

I just can’t see kirk getting so broken up over Rayna, He’s had long list of beautiful women, she just did not really impress me. This episode had some interesting elements in the hands of someone like Gene Coon, this episode would have shone.

14. Daoud - June 19, 2008

Holberg 917-G never looked better. And at least now we see it. ;)

Louise Sorel never looked better, too. They won’t need to remaster her… she was fine the first time.

If someday we get that wacky 60′s throwback “Assignment: Earth” series, it should feature Flint as a recurring character for Gary Seven to bump into. The possibilities are amazing.

15. BritishStyleGalactica - June 19, 2008

Twas still a good episode though without the input of Coon!
A good ol’ Star trek epi I feel

16. Quatlo - June 19, 2008

Looks good.

17. Jai1138 - June 19, 2008

I think the painting’s quite stunning (though I maintain ambivalence about the remastered project, in both concept and execution). A nice addition to one of the best episodes of TOS’ third season. (I’d also include the underrated Specter of the Gun and The Empath on that short and sweet list.)

And on an entirely unrelated note, I’m going to the STAR TREK concert presented by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra tomorrow night (with guests Robert Picardo and John DeLancie) and will gladly share my reaction here.

18. John N - June 19, 2008

Hey Jai1138…

I’ve got tickets to the same show. Looking forward to it! :)

19. Cox of Seagulls - June 19, 2008

Looks lovely.

20. tronnei - June 19, 2008

Nice touch to add a stellar observatory (telescope dome) to the castle.

21. Viking - June 19, 2008

WOW. Hey, CBS-D, can you put that matte painting out in 1024 x 768? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d like to add that to my wallpaper collection. That shot is sweet.

22. The Underpants Monster - June 19, 2008

That’s one thing that’s been consistently good about the remastered episodes – these new mattes are gorgeous.

23. Harry Ballz - June 19, 2008

Jai1138+John N

I’ve got tickets for the same show! When we all post our reviews it’ll be interesting to see how they match up!

24. CmdrR - June 19, 2008

What exactly does one do, sitting around the castle all day, on an otherwise uninhabited planet? I mean, sure you build Nomad and bang out a coupla hot blonde-bots, compose a few concertos, and chisel a statue or two. But, other than that what’s there to do?

Nice crib, Mr. Flynt.

25. capttravis - June 19, 2008

#14 – Flint DID bump into Seven in the Khan books (I think the second one) by Greg Cox. It was a fun ‘cameo’ they had together.

26. Flint - June 19, 2008

“You who have been such men would do this to us now?”

Great episode the only problem that I had was the time frame. Kirk does not strike me as the type of guy to go completely goo goo over an alien or android unless under the influence of some drug or mind control machine.

There can be only one.

27. Closettrekker - June 19, 2008

Not exactly Dorothy Fontana caliber. I can think of at least 25 episodes I would rather watch, but at least they have given Flint’s place its own unique look. Nice job on the matte painting.

#13—I agree. I think any genuine feelings for Rayna constitute a reach to say the least. What in the name of Edith Keeler could have been so special to him about her? I never bought it.

Oh well, even some of the 3rd season junk is better than no Trek at all…

28. capttravis - June 19, 2008

#24 – Having been around as long as he has, I’m sure Flint has some cures for boredom. Perhaps he drinks excessively. One wonders – being immortal, how did he treat vices? One could live one ‘lifetime’ on drugs, promiscuous and essentially ‘living on the edge’ with no fear of going over that edge, and when you grew tired of it you could go back to ‘normal.’ Weird.

29. John E. Kirk - June 19, 2008

I’ve still got a crush on Rayna.
Too bad I wasn’t the real Kirk.

:)

30. diabolk - June 19, 2008

That painting is one of the most gorgeous images and designs done for any episode. Awesome!

31. Ralph F - June 19, 2008

I wish CBS-D would always send over larger images (1920×1200 or bigger) so we can use them as desktops (aka wallpapers).

32. Vulcan927 - June 19, 2008

Beautiful…simply beautiful, and honours the original

33. Paul - June 19, 2008

Wonderful design!
Maybe a bit too grand for the one-man castle, but then again, it’s fitting for Metuselah, Solomon, Alexander, Lazarus, Merlin, Leonardo, Brahms, Pollack… :)

34. CmdrR - June 19, 2008

28 — True, that would be interesting.

I also think Flint has an advantage, character wise, over other immortals in recent fiction. The problem, to me, is that the immortale dude is more interesting in the past than in our present. Flint is in our future, so that’s interesting too.

As for this ep’s weaknesses, they’re largely due to the constraints of budget and 1960′s storytelling. If Trek had been written with long story arcs, we’d have seen the relationship build naturally over weeks, instead of James Tomcat Kirk getting his usual afternoon delight. Still, the closing scene is one of the series’ best, very reminiscent of McCoy’s “Don’t destroy the one named Kirk” speech. Very moving.

35. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - June 19, 2008

One thing they got right for sure during this turbulant remastering process has been the matte paintings. Each more beautiful than the next a pity the effects have not had the same luster and consitancy

36. Stan Wingson - June 19, 2008

And it’s got COLOR! If only the matte guy got to do planets. Or was allowed to do them with color. My #2 complaint about CBS-D is the folly of making the planets look more scientifically accurate as opposed to the much more appropriate and more colorful ’60s psychedelic look of the originals. And really- how many M-Class planets have we actually seen up close besides our own- ZERO!

37. Spocko - June 19, 2008

I wish I could live there.

38. Sean4000 - June 19, 2008

Max Gabl is the star of TOS-R!!!

This proves it beyond all doubt. This is beautiful. Simply beautiful.

We can probably find these in higher res format on Max’s website.

39. Andy Patterson - June 19, 2008

That really is cool. Could such a beautiful planet exist that were that much prettier than Earth? I tend to think not. Really is a cool shot though.

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I would agree with this post by the way. It’s almost too nice for what we see inside Flint’s home.

40. Marvin the Martian - June 19, 2008

I love the new shot.

However… Anthony, is there a reason why Ain’t-It-Cool-News gets this information long before you do? I’ve noticed that in recent weeks, you get scooped on Remastered eps repeatedly. I saw this shot this morning on that site, and it wasn’t until late today that it appeared here. In one case, it was a day later when we saw the same advance shots here.

Just wondering if you’re not gettin’ the love from CBS-D that’s due you.

41. Denise de Arman - June 19, 2008

G#13 & Closet#27- Kirk had a weakness for virgins – think about it. In all likelihood, even though she was incredibly intelligent and independent, Edith Keeler was most likely a virgin in 1930′s NYC and Kirk was certainly aware of that. Miramanee – virgin. Rayna – virgin. Kirk was a sucker for intelligence and innocence. Also, as he told Spock at the end of the ep, poor guy was so lonely…

42. Nelson - June 19, 2008

Really excellent matte painting work! Shades of Couresaunt. Flint has a really nice place!

Agreed, Max Gabi is a star.

43. Greg Stamper - June 19, 2008

Impressive, most impressive.

44. Buckaroohawk - June 19, 2008

Agreed again! The TOS-R project may have its inconsistencies, but the matte shots have ALWAYS been absolutely beautiful. They’ve given the TOS world some much needed scope and expanse.

I can’t wait to see what Stratos looks like!

45. capt mike - June 19, 2008

The painting is absolutely beautifull. This episode is one of the best of the 3rd season.Hats off to cbsd for the painting and i can’t wait to see the episode.

46. Jackson Roykirk - June 19, 2008

Yeah, the improved artwork is nice.

But, as several of us have already opined, Louise Sorel as Rayna has got to be one of the all time great Star Trek hotties.

Just sayin’.

47. the king in shreds and tatters - June 19, 2008

Nice to see them bring their A game to this.

Now if more of the planets were the colour of that sky…

48. dep1701 - June 19, 2008

Great painting. I just hope they don’t tweak the shots of the three foot Enterprise model on Flint’s table ( not much anyway … it would be kinda cool though, to give it some blinking lights ).

I always eagerly awaited that part of the episode as a kid. I wanted that ship so badly, and didn’t get a model of her ’til my family moved back to the U.S. in 1970 ( my Dad was stationed in Okinawa from ’67 to ’70 ).

49. Thomas - June 19, 2008

The design better reflects Flint’s status as a man who has had to change his identity time and again. His different identities clearly indicate that he was constantly on the move. The castle in particular reflects both Renaissance and Muslim architecture. The main building resembles an Italian villa while the domes and towers also make it resemble a mosque.

50. Kevin - June 19, 2008

Hmmm… the Highlander episode.

Not bad, not good. The part where Kirk falls in love with this android after one day and after she’s gone Spock mind melds with Kirk to help him forget her… totally out of character for both of them. Kind of spoils the episode.

That new matte is gorgeous though.

51. Denise de Arman - June 19, 2008

Kevin#50- Go deeper – Spock knows how lonely his best friend is (they live and work together day after day in this microcosm called the Enterprise); he also knows how Kirk tends to blame himself for everything that goes wrong in the galaxy (Rayna’s death). Within 10 minutes time, Kirk and McCoy have both expressed the wish that Kirk could “forget”. He happens to have the power to make that happen, so he does that for his friend. Remember, he is a Vulcan, so he acts as a Vulcan might act. If you had an upset brother who said, “I wish I could just go to a basketball game tonight and shut all this out”, and you happened to have tickets to a good game, think you might take him?

52. why so serious? - June 19, 2008

It looks amazing.

53. Doug - June 19, 2008

Greetings from Camp Eggers, Kabul Afghanistan!

Seeing this posting reminds me of a movie I highly recommend by the same author of “Requiem.” If you haven’t yet seen Jerome Bixby’s “Man from Earth,” I highly recommend it… you might see some similar themes between the two.

#43: a Darth Vader reference? cool

oh.. and yeah I nice matte painting it is. though in some ways I prefer the original,, but the new shot really is impressive.

54. OR Coast Trekkie - June 19, 2008

Nice painting. I have to say, the mattes are always really well done.

55. =A= - June 19, 2008

ahh that too much different building remastered, i disgree…should renew same building and clear colors that all..

56. Chris Pike - June 19, 2008

As before on other remastered episodes, CBSd best work on this whole project is by far the digital matte painting work, the high point. Not just the quality, but also how well the new paintings integrate into the old episodes.

57. Captain Robert April - June 19, 2008

Got me a new desktop…. :D

58. DJT - June 19, 2008

I can’t wait for the HD release! ;)

I hope when it comes out on BD that they will allow one to choose if they would like to see the wide-screen SFX or the cropped ones. There should be certainly enough room on them.

“I wish I could forget”

59. DJT - June 19, 2008

oh yeah.

Flint has a nice pad.

60. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - June 20, 2008

Wow, very nice. Flint built a doozy.

61. Sxottlan - June 20, 2008

It looks like they modeled the architecture after the entrance to Paramount Studios.

62. neonknights - June 20, 2008

The new castle is just too huge. Flint is rich, but not THAT rich. Or maybe he built it from Lego and used his shrinking device in reverse…

63. captain_neill - June 20, 2008

I always found Requem a lovely episode, even if it was a little overplayed about Kirk’s loneliness.

I loved Rayna Kampec. The new matte painting is awesome

64. neonknights - June 20, 2008

I also like this episode. One of the gems of season three.

65. Daniel Broadway - June 20, 2008

That’s a great looking matte. Very well done.

66. Engon - June 20, 2008

Great painting, but, if it is not combined with live action in some way, I don’t believe it is technically accurate to call it a “matte painting.”

The original image was created as a matte painting for “The Cage,” but in “Methuselah” its just a still image used as an establishing shot.

67. The Red Shirt Who Got Away - June 20, 2008

Wow! That picture seriously had me with my jaw wide open. That is beautiful!

68. Jeffrey S. Nelson - June 20, 2008

In Like Flint.

69. Holo J - June 20, 2008

Very cool, I wonder if they will have any little figures walking across the bridge, much like they did in “Amok Time”?

70. Holger - June 20, 2008

Exactly the kind of place someone like Flint would live in! Excellent!

71. Horatio - June 20, 2008

#53 – Thanks for your service and STAY SAFE!!

Nice matte. Not my most favorite episode. Kirk is SO out of character with his instant infatuation with Raina. Even as a horndog teen in the 70′s who admired Kirks womanizing this episode just didnt seem right to me.

72. Biodredd - June 20, 2008

#62 – If Flint could afford to purchase the entire planet (which is clearly stated in the episode) then he can afford to build this fortress.

73. Nowhere Man - June 20, 2008

It would be interesting to see how CBS is going to remaster the Cloudminers which is coming out on July 12.

74. Closettrekker - June 20, 2008

#73—Ahhhh…the Troglytes and Spock on the prowl…I like that episode.

75. Dr. Image - June 20, 2008

That’s just insane!
Max is one of the greatest matte painters ever. CBS-D is lucky to have such a talent.
What else has he done??

76. Andy Patterson - June 20, 2008

14

“If someday we get that wacky 60’s throwback “Assignment: Earth” series, it should feature Flint as a recurring character for Gary Seven to bump into. The possibilities are amazing.”

I like that idea.

James Daly (who was in my favorite Twilight Zone ep..A Stop at Willoughby ) and Ms. Sorell, – from what I’ve read, thought of themselves primarily as stage actors and didn’t think much of this episode. For some reason watching this, and knowing that now, makes this episode all the more enjoyable for me these days.

77. c0MmODoRe g0_oFbAlL - June 20, 2008

Eye p 0-o pping, gotta love it.

78. FishDS9 - June 20, 2008

Must be a B to clean. :D

79. Xon - June 20, 2008

Gorgeous painting.

80. COMPASSIONATE GOD - June 20, 2008

I am surprised–the matte replacement actually looks really good! (and everyone knows how critical i’ve been about the remastered efx)

I believe it honors the original intent (the 1969 recycling of “The Cage” matte), and adds an artistic flair to Flint’s choice of design.

About the episode:

Dr. McCoy’s “love” speech at the end easily ranks as one of the best lines of dialogue ever written for the series; it captures the genuine emotion and (partial) understanding Bones has for Spock, and being on-point, Spock does not try to debate it. Spock, being as lonely as Kirk, could not argue McCoy’s observation, and places him in the correct emotional position to want to ease his best friend’s pain.

Add that last, beautiful music cue while Spock prepares to make Kirk forget, and its a very memorable final scene for the episode.

81. Jim Profit - June 20, 2008

I’m not sure yet if I like that the one moon is removed from the foreground.

17 Jai1138 & 18 John N & 23 Harry Ballz: Very much looking forward to read your reviews. Is there a website for this event?

82. Dif - June 20, 2008

Jeebus. Rayna was a female Spock who was in love with him! Of course Kirk would be broken up over that loss!

This is one of my favorite episodes, so I’m glad to see that the new background is rather nice.

83. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - June 20, 2008

A certain other site has made mention that the new matte bears a resemblance to Naboo. Thoughts?

Even though it was a re-used painting, I always thought that the original was one of the most effective and well done mattes ever used on TV, that I had seen.

If I could build robots that looked like Rayna I’d never leave my matte painting castle.

84. SciFiMetalGirl - June 20, 2008

Recycled Nomad was bad enough, but the recycled matte painting was a bit much, so at least they were able to fix that!

Nice!!!

85. trekboi - June 20, 2008

great matt painting- i wasnt expecting any more other than the cloud minders because i forgot they reused the cage shot.

The matts are the best! wish they had done more set extensions especialy with landing party beam downs.

well there are a few more episodes left to surprise us.

86. trekboi - June 20, 2008

I love it but then i start to think- why didnt they give trelane a castle like the extension in catspaw?

I love CBSD’s work but the project has been inconsistant.

87. Mr. Bob Dobalina - June 20, 2008

Kirk’s total falling for the robot is totally whacked and out of character. But that matte painting looks great so I’ll give it a watch.

88. SPOCKBOY - June 20, 2008

The painting is fantastic as are ALL the matte paintings, but what’s with the 2 moons?
I can count how many episodes where there were exactly 2 moons one on top of the other like that.

weird.
nice work though.

89. COMPASSIONATE GOD - June 20, 2008

Re: 87. Mr. Bob Dobalina – June 20, 2008
“Kirk’s total falling for the robot is totally whacked and out of character. But that matte painting looks great so I’ll give it a watch.”

Well, he did not know she was a robot, and when you consider his track record of GENUINE romance (as opposed to flings, and old flames), he’s been on the empty/losing end since Edith Keeler, so he may have been longing for a special woman to fill that void in his heart.

BTW, nice album reference for your name!

90. AFM - June 20, 2008

It’s interesting how this episode could have be updated if the story line dealt with cloning rather than robots.

McCoy’s dialogue at the end followed by Spock’s “Forget” is one of those moments from TOS that I’ll always recall; it’s up there with Kirk’s “Let’s get the hell outta here” from “City on the Edge of Forever”.

2008 gives us crappy reality television, 1968 television gave us something to think about.

91. SPOCKBOY - June 20, 2008

I was hoping that they would superimpose a Master Replicas Enterprise over the static 3 foot model they used in this episode. Even as a kid I wondered why it didn’t light up as it was supposed to be the REAL SHIP. Frozen or not the lights would be on.

Got my fingers crossed.

92. COMPASSIONATE GOD - June 20, 2008

#91:

I see your point, but that scene is one of the few, perfectly clear shots of the legendary (and lost) 3 foot miniature (and from two angles, no less!), ever seen on TOS episodes. For that reason, I feel it should be left as is.

93. Sean4000 - June 20, 2008

Very naboo-ish! Rminds me of Epidode II. Can’t remember where they shot that scen but this looke very much like it.

Let’s hope they don’t make another “Assignment Earth” calibre messup and insert Jar Jar into this episode. ;)

94. Robert Bernardo - June 20, 2008

Somehow, the perspective looks off in the new picture. The castle leans too much to the right. Or perhaps the digital artist is trying to imitate a faux wide-angle camera lens.

95. steve623 - June 20, 2008

They should release a coffee table book of all the matte paintings done for the remastered series.

96. The Underpants Monster - June 20, 2008

Kirk always struck me as the sort of fellow – and I may be projecting here – who always “falls in love” with the woman he’s attracted to. A romantic softie, really. It doesn’t last, of course, but he always gets that misty look in his eyes.

97. Redjac - June 20, 2008

Gaw-jus digital painting! Simply Gaw-jus!!!!

98. SPOCKBOY - June 20, 2008

#92-
I have the perfect compromise, how about they digitally illuminate the windows and nacelles.
I’d settle for that!

99. Mike Norris - June 20, 2008

Da Vinci would be proud.

100. Commodore Z - June 20, 2008

#98: Nah. I love the 3-footer. Don’t touch it!

101. Magic_Al - June 20, 2008

That’s a painting you can imagine spending hours walking through. Very cool.

The one from “The Cage” is one of the best traditional matte paintings in film or TV. Best at being beautiful if not “real” looking.

102. Denise de Arman - June 20, 2008

Why does anyone think it out of character for Kirk to be smitten with a young, beautiful, intelligent girl who, by-the-way, is being ordered around by the “old guy”? That would immediately bring out Kirk’s protective got-to-help nature, especially with someone as obviously innocent as Rayna. I think some of you guys forget how easily Kirk could become infactuated. Two first season episodes, The Naked Time and Conscience of the King, make mention of Kirk’s loneliness as captain of the Enterprise. This is one of the personality traits which makes him a 3-dimensional character. Perhaps only the female viewers can truly grasp and appreciate that Kirk was a real romantic at heart, wanting a companion, but wanting the Enterprise more.

103. Rich - June 21, 2008

#73:

I’m also looking forward to seeing CBS-D’s take on Stratos, I just hope it doesnt end up looking like the remastered cloud city in The Empire Strikes Back

104. Vulcan Soul - June 21, 2008

The painting is excellent; unfortunately, these were the only excellent parts of TOS-R. I suggest they keep these elements when they (inevitably) remaster the remastered project. They can safely toss out all the video game crap though.

105. Sean4000 - June 21, 2008

104:

Don’t worry we will ;)

106. Iowagirl - June 21, 2008

#102
- Perhaps only the female viewers can truly grasp and appreciate that Kirk was a real romantic at heart, wanting a companion, but wanting the Enterprise more. -

Agreed, Denise. That’s *his* conflict. I’ve always thought it’s one of the reasons why he understands Spock so well (and vice versa) – they both are driven by their emotional conflicts which makes them lonely, but at the same time are an essential engine for their inner strength.

107. Gene L. Coon was a U. S. Marine - June 21, 2008

“13. Garovorkin – June 19, 2008

I just can’t see kirk getting so broken up over Rayna, He’s had long list of beautiful women, she just did not really impress me. This episode had some interesting elements in the hands of someone like Gene Coon, this episode would have shone.”

They didn’t ask me. But you are right!

108. why so serious? - June 22, 2008

They chopped it to pieces. I can’t believe they cut Bones’ little love speech at the end.

109. Hat Rick - June 22, 2008

108, I noticed that the ending as edited omitted Bones completely and there is no indication that Methuselah was, in fact, aging (other than his elliptical “I have other concerns” comment in the middle of the episode, which could also have referred to other things). The ending I saw consisted of Kirk saying to Spock in his cabin that there was an old lonely man, and a young lonely man, and that both of them had put on quite a show. Kirk also said that he wanted to forget that the encountered occurred and then rested his head in his arms, and in response, Spock placed his hand on Kirk’s temple uttering the word, “forget.”

All in all, this was an excellent story and episode and yielded insights into the nature of love, humanity, and mortality. By comparison, modern episodic television is trash.

110. Garovorkin - June 22, 2008

The Flint character was compelling ,no question, but he got overshadowed by the the who sappy love angel of this episode. Kirk falling for the robot damsel in distress, silly. He could have done alot better then Rayna and he frequently has. Flint is the biggest puzzle here, If he did not want Rayna to find out she was android, Why didn’t he dispose of all the earlier Rayna prototypes? Why did he even need to hide from Rayna the truth in the first place. For a guy that’s lived how many thousands of years? He’s pretty dense isn’t he? Lets not forget such stellar dialogue
Flint ” you cannot love android I love her” Please

How is it that he needed Kirk to engender these feeling in Rayna anyways?With all of his experience with love he could not do himself?

111. COMPASSIONATE GOD - June 22, 2008

Re: 104. Vulcan Soul – June 21, 2008
The painting is excellent; unfortunately, these were the only excellent parts of TOS-R. I suggest they keep these elements when they (inevitably) remaster the remastered project. They can safely toss out all the video game crap though.”

Agreed.

The boobs cut McCoy’s great closing line. Real intelligent move.

112. Garovorkin - June 22, 2008

This was just not that good an episode, in facyt Seasn 3 of trek was overall not very good. first Fred Freidberger was a lousy, I think they might have been better off handing the executive producer job to someone like Robert Justman or Gene Coon, even with a reduced budget they could have far better the Fred Friedberger. The old Dr Who series which had a shoestring budget and was done on tape rather then film had superior writing. Imagine what the producers of that show could have done with the season 3 budget of trek

113. Engon - June 22, 2008

Well, they did incorporate figures walking across the bridge, so I guess it is reasonable to cal it a “matte” painting. Digital compositing does make the term “matte” less specific than it once was.

114. Mr. Bob Dobalina - June 22, 2008

#89 Compassionate God “BTW, nice album reference for your name!”

Thanks , after all, it is in my opinion, that the people are intending. :)

Just watched the episode and it’s a mixed bag to be sure. Some really nice “robot” stuff going in, especially when they manage to take M-4 through a door in one continuous shot. I also like the premise and the shot of the rarely seen 33″ miniature is always a treat. Sadly the poorly staged “fight” at the end and KIrk’s love at first sight syndrome still taint my enjoyment of this episode.

115. Billy Bobby - June 22, 2008

This is one of my favorite episodes. This episode comes in second place for the third season, right after The Empath. RFM represents great television.

116. Hat Rick - June 22, 2008

114, I think that Kirk realized how out-of-character his actions were. His love for Rayna overwhelmed his rational faculties, and I think he knew it. His speech at the very end bespeaks regret that includes not only Rayna’s loss, but his own loss of control (“we put on quite a show”).

Perhaps he knew he could safely release his emotions, down there on the planet, because he was in the presence of two of his closest friends. He knew that if things got too rough, Spock would be there to rein him in, and Bones would be there to remind him of his center.

Methuselah’s loss was even greater than Kirk’s. Although the episode butchers the plot point, the aging of Methuselah means that he will no longer have the time to create his perfect woman. Just as tragic, the years he had spent teaching Rayna all he knew were lost forever (assuming that he had actually taught her in the traditional ways rather than downloading the knowledge.) The only solace for him would have been if he could have found a human companion, and yet that, too, is denied to him by himself. He has cut himself off from civilization, believing it to be violent and corrupt. And, as a final iustice, through his own loss of control, he personally engaged in violence — a physical atercation with Kirk — that led to the death of his only hope, Rayna.

No wonder Kirk wanted to forget the whole mess. It was a tragedy as much as it was a requiem.

117. Garovorkin - June 22, 2008

The problem is that improving the special effects cannot make this a better episode. Bad is bad.

118. Garovorkin - June 22, 2008

Flint was pathetic. He lived a long time concluded that the best way to deal with the problems of the world was to run Away? The fact that he rather spend eternity with a wind up Android Rayna rather then with his fellow man how sad is that? The earth of Kirks time was far better then the world he was born into and consideres it corrupt and beyond redemption? Please.

119. Marv - June 22, 2008

WOW.

120. Hat Rick - June 22, 2008

118, interesting analysis. But who are we to sit in judgment of a 6,000-year-old man? He was older than much of civilization itself. He had lived hundreds of lifetimes. Perhaps he knew the futility of civilization in a way no one else could have.

Perhaps, as well, he was wrong, but therein lies the tragedy, nonetheless.

121. Garovorkin - June 22, 2008

Or perhaps he was 6000 year old coward, you live that long see things getting better and it looks as if man is going to escape his past mistake and you conclude that man is beyond hope? If he can’t figure things out after 6000 years of living then he’s the one who is hopeless.

122. Anthony Pascale - June 22, 2008

FYI

Screencaps/VIDEO/Review will go up tomorrow afternoon

123. Demode - June 22, 2008

I like that the new castle has an Observatory to look up at the heavens. Seems very appropriate for such a character, as he always was a man of science.

124. Engon - June 22, 2008

As Zefram Cochrane said in “Metamorphosis”:

“Believe me, Captain, immortality consists largely of boredom.”

And he’d only been at it for 150 years. Of course he was more or less alone.

125. TomBot2008 - June 22, 2008

This episode has never stood out in my mind or memory… but the part at the end where Kirk wants to “Forget” and Spock makes that happen totally blows me away… I so don’t recall this. Odd. It’s a middling to poor episode with an entertaining Mano-e-Mano Slapfight to bring some laughs. Flint’s almost god-like powers and his Nomad-like droid M4(related to M-5?) are way over the top silly in some ways… but really it’s the truncated romance that gets the Top Silly Romance Award. The Ultimate Conflict Robot Self Destruct comes into play to neatly end loose ends and Spock wipes the pain away from Kirk… Most assuredly, Flint goes right onto Rayna(#?) and shrinks his planet down for easy transport to a new location. ;-)

126. Starman - June 23, 2008

That’s an amazing picture. Can someone at CBS-D make a collection of 1920×1200 (or 2560×1600) wallpapers, please?

127. FredCFO - June 23, 2008

Anthony:

I love the recaps you guys do. In case I miss the episode, I don’t miss the SFX. And the reviews are also very good to read.

I’ve taken the screencaps and use them in a slideshow for my screen saver as well as my desktop. I am currently using the Enterprise on approach to Memory Alpha.

Thank to Trekmovie for this service.

128. AM - June 23, 2008

It’s Monday afternoon and I just finished watching this episode; I’m totally floored by the poor choice to edit out McCoy’s dialogue!

Sorry to literally Monday Morning Quarterback, but…

1. M4 should have been CGI’d, the swaying movement of the model looks worse 40 years later.

2. The Enterprise on the table should have been CGI’d too with it’s exterior navigation lights working, especially since the bridge controls were all flashing when Kirk peered into the “window”.

3. Too bad we couldn’t have called the androids “Replicants” or “Clones” and that might have given us a more modern take on the whole issue of morality and cloning. It would be interesting to see how a man of 6000 years would justify constantly creating life to end his own loneliness.

129. Scott Gammans - June 23, 2008

A typical “meh” third season episode, although that *is* a gorgeous matte painting by Max Gabl.

If you want to watch a story about an immortal man done the right way, rent Jerome Bixby’s “The Man from Earth” on DVD.

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