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By: trekboi

trekboi — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:57:16 +0000

i always felt star trek’s decline came from changing it to be like all the other dark sci-fi shows- abandoning Gene Roddenbery’s optomistic vision.
I always thought rather than trying to change star trek they should go do another show….

With Battlestar they did- but oddly enuff battlestar has never ratred as high as next gen….?

By: LoyalStarTrekFan

LoyalStarTrekFan — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:35:06 +0000

105, I completely agree with you. Well said. (See my comments in posts 70 and 84.)

106, an excellent point. A little humor would help BSG a lot. Maybe that’s why I got tired of it. I don’t know but it’s certainly possible.

107, another good point and I think that Shatner would agree with you. In the documentary “How William Shatner Changed the World” he blames the ratings problems of VOY and ENT (and to a smaller degree DS9 because less people watched DS9 than TNG) on the fact that Trek had gone dark and abandoned Roddenberry’s vision.

By: Corrvin

Corrvin — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:12:35 +0000

I agree with #8 completely. I am tired of all the darkness in this world. Trek was always some kind of escape. Taking the positive aspect of Star Trek away is killing Star Trek and you end up with just another new scifi series.

By: me

me — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:38:56 +0000

i LOVE BSG-

But BSG has one problem: no humor.
I never laughed. It is a bit too dark, sometimes.
And that is not realistic. i worked in a nursing home, especially these people who are confrontated with death every day develop some special kind of dark humor, that is missing in that show.

By: The Trekkie

The Trekkie — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:33:24 +0000

Anti Trek is a cliche, too.

What you need for a good show are bright moments & dark moments.
A mixture of darkness and light (only that comes close to reality).

Babylon 5 makes that perfectly, quite dark, but with a lot of humor.

By: Doug L

Doug L — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:32:19 +0000

re all of my posts….

My writing is really sloppy these days… apologies to all. Doug L.

By: Doug L

Doug L — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:30:03 +0000

Yo re 100 Mr. Underpants…

I totally agree with you on that point. I’m still watching and I do think it’s a great show, but I’m a little underwhelmed with the reveals, it doesn’t seem like this was the plan and they spend too much time focussing on weaker supporting cast members over the main characters.

Your point enhances my points about character from posts 59 & 66. I don’t care that much about the characters, and the story has gotten to the point of …. what else can go wrong and… so what?

If I can’t feel the impact of these huge moments through a character’s emotional investment, then you I’m losing interest. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing with storytelling… Right now… all the characters are soooo tortured that you just can’t really feel it anymore.

Doug L.

By: M.

M. — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:05:39 +0000

101.

My sympathies are out to you and your fight with those on this thread that are either misquoting you, or misunderstanding you. I find that you can’t win them all, especially around here. But keep fighting the good fight.

Another thing though, for a group of people devoted to a series about hope and the attainment of a better future, Trek fans can seem rather cynical at times. I guess it is one of those ultimate ironies.