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	<title>Comments on: Conventional Wisdom: Tips On Picking A Convention</title>
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		<title>By: What Does T. Harv Eker Think He Knows? &#124; Cool News on Butterfly Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Does T. Harv Eker Think He Knows? &#124; Cool News on Butterfly Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jorg Sacul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorg Sacul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vulkon can be added to the list of Epic Fail conventions. They have gone the way of Slander, er Slanted Fedora and JumpCon.  Attorney General action is on the horizon.</description>
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		<title>By: JimE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typing too fast
...It helped THAT the Babel Cons had the resources of STCOGR 
...I’ve NOT been out to a real convention in a while. Marcon’s in Ohio is a lot of fun. I have friends that really love DragonCon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typing too fast<br />
&#8230;It helped THAT the Babel Cons had the resources of STCOGR<br />
&#8230;I’ve NOT been out to a real convention in a while. Marcon’s in Ohio is a lot of fun. I have friends that really love DragonCon.</p>
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		<title>By: JimE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here I was just Googling the net and I stumble across my name here of all places.  

Wow.  It&#039;s not often I see someone wax poetic about the old Babel Cons.  Thanks for the praise DuneCee (26).   I think you failed to mention Roger Sorensen in that honors list. I think that covers all the old convetion con-chairs.  Mention should also go to a number of lovely ladies (Cathy Van Lopk, Julie Hondrid, Val Levering, Bert and Betty Stout, Laurel Mulendyke) ((please forgive any misspellings) who kept the wheels going at art shows and registration and a lot of other grunt work.  

Those conventions were great times.  It&#039;s too bad they imploded.  It helped the the Babel Cons had the resources of STCOGR (The Star Trek Club of Grand Rapids) to draw upon for the labor, that we were all younger, and commitment free.

As I recall, coming up with the ideas for the Saturday night skits was almost as much fun as the skits themselves.  I seem to recall a lot of time sitting in local restaurants with legal pads, beer, soda, free popcorn, chicken tenders, and beer.

One to the things DuneCee didn&#039;t mention was that, unlike most conventions, Babel Con was able to pull-off ten years of  good cons without the one thing that seems to be a convention &#039;must have&#039;.  Babel Con&#039;s never to my memory had a big name guest. 

The Babel Con&#039;s had fan known guests like filker &quot;Julia Eckar&quot; or guest of interest like 1930&#039;s Buck Roger&#039;s comic strip artist Rick Yager. (I remember he had a good tale about drawing Buck Roger&#039;s got him into trouble with the FBI.) The con just concentrated on having fun things to do, like midnight film showing of Jaws in the hotel pool (Garvin Czetli honor mention), group convention outings to the movies, dances, and all night filking.  


I&#039;ve been out to a real convention in a while. Marcon&#039;s in Ohio is a lot of fun. I have friends that really love DragonCon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I was just Googling the net and I stumble across my name here of all places.  </p>
<p>Wow.  It&#8217;s not often I see someone wax poetic about the old Babel Cons.  Thanks for the praise DuneCee (26).   I think you failed to mention Roger Sorensen in that honors list. I think that covers all the old convetion con-chairs.  Mention should also go to a number of lovely ladies (Cathy Van Lopk, Julie Hondrid, Val Levering, Bert and Betty Stout, Laurel Mulendyke) ((please forgive any misspellings) who kept the wheels going at art shows and registration and a lot of other grunt work.  </p>
<p>Those conventions were great times.  It&#8217;s too bad they imploded.  It helped the the Babel Cons had the resources of STCOGR (The Star Trek Club of Grand Rapids) to draw upon for the labor, that we were all younger, and commitment free.</p>
<p>As I recall, coming up with the ideas for the Saturday night skits was almost as much fun as the skits themselves.  I seem to recall a lot of time sitting in local restaurants with legal pads, beer, soda, free popcorn, chicken tenders, and beer.</p>
<p>One to the things DuneCee didn&#8217;t mention was that, unlike most conventions, Babel Con was able to pull-off ten years of  good cons without the one thing that seems to be a convention &#8216;must have&#8217;.  Babel Con&#8217;s never to my memory had a big name guest. </p>
<p>The Babel Con&#8217;s had fan known guests like filker &#8220;Julia Eckar&#8221; or guest of interest like 1930&#8217;s Buck Roger&#8217;s comic strip artist Rick Yager. (I remember he had a good tale about drawing Buck Roger&#8217;s got him into trouble with the FBI.) The con just concentrated on having fun things to do, like midnight film showing of Jaws in the hotel pool (Garvin Czetli honor mention), group convention outings to the movies, dances, and all night filking.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been out to a real convention in a while. Marcon&#8217;s in Ohio is a lot of fun. I have friends that really love DragonCon.</p>
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		<title>By: Sena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been to Dragon Con.  Swore I would never go there again.  My daughter and I waited over 2 hours for passes, just for the vendors and to see what it was like.  As we made our way to the vendors with newly printed passes at 5:00 we, and a crowd of others with the same intention, learned that the vendors were closing.  Could we have been told this at 4:50 when the credit card was sweetly taken or when the passes were printed by a very tired, surly convention volunteer.  Yes, I wanted to pay for an 11 year old&#039;s 1 day pass for the after hours parties. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been to Dragon Con.  Swore I would never go there again.  My daughter and I waited over 2 hours for passes, just for the vendors and to see what it was like.  As we made our way to the vendors with newly printed passes at 5:00 we, and a crowd of others with the same intention, learned that the vendors were closing.  Could we have been told this at 4:50 when the credit card was sweetly taken or when the passes were printed by a very tired, surly convention volunteer.  Yes, I wanted to pay for an 11 year old&#8217;s 1 day pass for the after hours parties. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nightshade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Nightshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jjwere#60, I am sorry you had such a bad experience. The only Star Trek Con Ive been to was the Vegas Creation a couple years ago for the 40th anniversary...I loved most of it but did cost me over $2000 and I did not even get any autographs. Sooo couldnt afford to do that again but it was great...My gal is mildly hanicapped and we were accomodated for the photo ops and also allowed to be in the front of the line for the champage toast etc...when we did have difficulties I just saw adam or gary, mostly gary. they really went out of their way for us. However My gal is not wheelchair bound just cannot stand for long periods....Of course I love star trek the experience and attending the party with the fans was great....I keep hoping it will not close and hope that Paramount buys it back and deals with the vegas hilton....But in your case as they stuck you off to the side it would be hard for you to go get gary or adam and ask for their help. They should have accomadated you and that was totally wrong and unfair to treat you like that. I hope they have improved with those requiring wheelchairs since then....and I really dont blame you at all for being very upset and mad at them. I would be too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjwere#60, I am sorry you had such a bad experience. The only Star Trek Con Ive been to was the Vegas Creation a couple years ago for the 40th anniversary&#8230;I loved most of it but did cost me over $2000 and I did not even get any autographs. Sooo couldnt afford to do that again but it was great&#8230;My gal is mildly hanicapped and we were accomodated for the photo ops and also allowed to be in the front of the line for the champage toast etc&#8230;when we did have difficulties I just saw adam or gary, mostly gary. they really went out of their way for us. However My gal is not wheelchair bound just cannot stand for long periods&#8230;.Of course I love star trek the experience and attending the party with the fans was great&#8230;.I keep hoping it will not close and hope that Paramount buys it back and deals with the vegas hilton&#8230;.But in your case as they stuck you off to the side it would be hard for you to go get gary or adam and ask for their help. They should have accomadated you and that was totally wrong and unfair to treat you like that. I hope they have improved with those requiring wheelchairs since then&#8230;.and I really dont blame you at all for being very upset and mad at them. I would be too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53 Chuck Soileau;

You&#039;re in OPELOUSAS?!!!!!!!! I am in Eunice!!!! We are just a couple of miles from each other, LOL! I do the news reports daily on KEUN 105.5 FM and 1490 AM here as &quot;Rick Nesbitt&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 Chuck Soileau;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re in OPELOUSAS?!!!!!!!! I am in Eunice!!!! We are just a couple of miles from each other, LOL! I do the news reports daily on KEUN 105.5 FM and 1490 AM here as &#8220;Rick Nesbitt&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 1000thghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>1000thghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Denver Con&#039;s use to be a lot of fun now they are AWFUL!!!! They charge for every little thing and rip off more then thier fare share, but we have no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Denver Con&#8217;s use to be a lot of fun now they are AWFUL!!!! They charge for every little thing and rip off more then thier fare share, but we have no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: JERRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>JERRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To DuneCee: the very first convention I attended was a Michigan BABELCON (Diane Carey was a guest) and it was pure heaven. Of course, back then, I had nothing else to compare it, too, but I have fond memories of it. I was there by myself and I remember everyone being friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To DuneCee: the very first convention I attended was a Michigan BABELCON (Diane Carey was a guest) and it was pure heaven. Of course, back then, I had nothing else to compare it, too, but I have fond memories of it. I was there by myself and I remember everyone being friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise de Arman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise de Arman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jjwere#60-  I am so sorry to hear this.  There is just no excuse for that, none.  Do you think you might decide to try another convention with a different promotor?  It is so sad to think of you never going again because of that one awful experience with those Orcs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjwere#60-  I am so sorry to hear this.  There is just no excuse for that, none.  Do you think you might decide to try another convention with a different promotor?  It is so sad to think of you never going again because of that one awful experience with those Orcs.</p>
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