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	<title>Comments on: AICN&#8217;s Knowles Reports on Star Trek Footage</title>
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		<title>By: Colonel Kurdatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel Kurdatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe that Gary Mitchell isn&#039;t in this one, but then again, this movie appears to jump around in time a lot, so he may not be relevant to the storyline in regards to a specific timeframe.

But wasn&#039;t Kirks first ship actually the Farragut and then the Republic? I&#039;m talking about assignments here, not commands.

And what about Ben Finney? Wouldn&#039;t he also possibly have made an appearance in this movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe that Gary Mitchell isn&#8217;t in this one, but then again, this movie appears to jump around in time a lot, so he may not be relevant to the storyline in regards to a specific timeframe.</p>
<p>But wasn&#8217;t Kirks first ship actually the Farragut and then the Republic? I&#8217;m talking about assignments here, not commands.</p>
<p>And what about Ben Finney? Wouldn&#8217;t he also possibly have made an appearance in this movie?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ENTERPRISE warping out - Anyway Abrams effects dept hopefully upgrade that ? And not anything that we&#039;ve seen before. Maybe like the fighters in Stealth passing by in hypersonic. OR, look at any real meteor/satellite streak photo - They remind me of the starship going in or coming out of warp at a great distance - Maybe what a real one might look like in the night sky above a planet. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ENTERPRISE warping out &#8211; Anyway Abrams effects dept hopefully upgrade that ? And not anything that we&#8217;ve seen before. Maybe like the fighters in Stealth passing by in hypersonic. OR, look at any real meteor/satellite streak photo &#8211; They remind me of the starship going in or coming out of warp at a great distance &#8211; Maybe what a real one might look like in the night sky above a planet. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: AICN traz novidades sobre cenas do filme &#171; Startrekbr&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>AICN traz novidades sobre cenas do filme &#171; Startrekbr&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gustavo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustavo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the report from Harry....I started to wonder how would be that raging star that Harry describes.....this is going to be an epic movie!!


Can&#039;t wait to see it!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the report from Harry&#8230;.I started to wonder how would be that raging star that Harry describes&#8230;..this is going to be an epic movie!!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see it!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#250---I share your concerns about Uhura, but it isn&#039;t mentioned that Sulu is there in the Academy scene, only that the last thing Knowles saw was Sulu aboard the Enterprise (with Pike?). 

&quot;Spock is 3 years older than Kirk according to the timeline&quot;

I don&#039;t believe that is canon. Spock could easily be the same age as Kirk. We know that Kirk is 34 when he takes command of the Enterprise, and Spock had previously served under Pike for 11 years prior to that point. If Kirk graduates from the Academy at age 22-23, and the Enterprise (under Pike) was Spock&#039;s first posting, it is more than reasonable for them to be the same age. Spock&#039;s age is only vaguely hinted at in TAS &quot;Yesteryear&quot;, so there is no canon limitation there.

I initially was taken aback by the notion that McCoy was in the same class as well, but it is quite conceivable that he went to medical school before attending Starfleet Academy (and perhaps even practiced surgery for a time as well). This can easily account for his apparently more advanced age in TOS.

Where the problem lies is the placement of Uhura in the same graduating class. This is where it gets unbelieveable to me. Why would any Starfleet Officer with 11-12 years of service still remain at the rank of Lieutenant? Furthermore, she certainly appears significantly younger than her Captain---more like mid-late 20&#039;s by season one of TOS. IMO, she should be at least 5 years behind Jim Kirk at the Academy for the situation to be at all plausible. I hope Harry misinterpreted what he saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#250&#8212;I share your concerns about Uhura, but it isn&#8217;t mentioned that Sulu is there in the Academy scene, only that the last thing Knowles saw was Sulu aboard the Enterprise (with Pike?). </p>
<p>&#8220;Spock is 3 years older than Kirk according to the timeline&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that is canon. Spock could easily be the same age as Kirk. We know that Kirk is 34 when he takes command of the Enterprise, and Spock had previously served under Pike for 11 years prior to that point. If Kirk graduates from the Academy at age 22-23, and the Enterprise (under Pike) was Spock&#8217;s first posting, it is more than reasonable for them to be the same age. Spock&#8217;s age is only vaguely hinted at in TAS &#8220;Yesteryear&#8221;, so there is no canon limitation there.</p>
<p>I initially was taken aback by the notion that McCoy was in the same class as well, but it is quite conceivable that he went to medical school before attending Starfleet Academy (and perhaps even practiced surgery for a time as well). This can easily account for his apparently more advanced age in TOS.</p>
<p>Where the problem lies is the placement of Uhura in the same graduating class. This is where it gets unbelieveable to me. Why would any Starfleet Officer with 11-12 years of service still remain at the rank of Lieutenant? Furthermore, she certainly appears significantly younger than her Captain&#8212;more like mid-late 20&#8217;s by season one of TOS. IMO, she should be at least 5 years behind Jim Kirk at the Academy for the situation to be at all plausible. I hope Harry misinterpreted what he saw.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graduate hangar scene has me worried, they all can&#039;t be at the academy at the same time. Spock is 3 years older than Kirk according to the timeline. and Sulue and Uhura would be younger than Kirk so it makes no sense all graduating at the same time. Its things like this which get me worried about JJ.

Don&#039;t get me wrong the scenes sound impressive but to me its a bit contrived they know each other at the academy then go off to other assignments and then all meet up when Kirk assumes command of the Enterprise. They did get Enterprise straight away, except Spock who served under Pike. Number One was the helm officer then and Tyler was Navigator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graduate hangar scene has me worried, they all can&#8217;t be at the academy at the same time. Spock is 3 years older than Kirk according to the timeline. and Sulue and Uhura would be younger than Kirk so it makes no sense all graduating at the same time. Its things like this which get me worried about JJ.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong the scenes sound impressive but to me its a bit contrived they know each other at the academy then go off to other assignments and then all meet up when Kirk assumes command of the Enterprise. They did get Enterprise straight away, except Spock who served under Pike. Number One was the helm officer then and Tyler was Navigator.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Finnegan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Finnegan?</p>
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		<title>By: Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3, 51, 65, 88, 121, 131, 208. I am glad that Abrams is using the classic Trek uniforms.  I have always thought that if Abrams treats Star Trek as a part of history as seen by the remote future, say the 33th Century, then his team could design the new movie as a historical or period piece, like the movie “Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World”.  They could therefore treat the uniforms, props, and sets of TOS as period uniforms, props, and sets, and update them to include embedded nanotechnology.  In 228, I mentioned that in the infamous TOS episode “Spock’s Brain”, Kirk ordered his landing party to adjust their suit temperatures.  This implies that their uniforms were wired with what we would call nanotechnology today.  None of the other episodes or movies expanded on this idea, but Abrams’ team can exploit this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3, 51, 65, 88, 121, 131, 208. I am glad that Abrams is using the classic Trek uniforms.  I have always thought that if Abrams treats Star Trek as a part of history as seen by the remote future, say the 33th Century, then his team could design the new movie as a historical or period piece, like the movie “Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World”.  They could therefore treat the uniforms, props, and sets of TOS as period uniforms, props, and sets, and update them to include embedded nanotechnology.  In 228, I mentioned that in the infamous TOS episode “Spock’s Brain”, Kirk ordered his landing party to adjust their suit temperatures.  This implies that their uniforms were wired with what we would call nanotechnology today.  None of the other episodes or movies expanded on this idea, but Abrams’ team can exploit this.</p>
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		<title>By: Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>237. I also interpret the term &quot;functional&quot; the same as you do, but since &quot;Spock&#039;s Brain&quot; implied the uniforms were wired and Knowles said imagine telling Apple to make the uniform design really work, I interpret that functionality and practicality are achieved with nanotechnology and user-friendly easy-to-use interfaces in world where such technology is commonplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>237. I also interpret the term &#8220;functional&#8221; the same as you do, but since &#8220;Spock&#8217;s Brain&#8221; implied the uniforms were wired and Knowles said imagine telling Apple to make the uniform design really work, I interpret that functionality and practicality are achieved with nanotechnology and user-friendly easy-to-use interfaces in world where such technology is commonplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>234. Yeah, maybe they have pockets :-)

Still, I wanted to recall what Roddenberry had originally intended for Star Trek&#039;s clothing.  In &quot;The Making of Star Trek&quot;, an excerpt from the Star Trek Guide says the show should never have crewmembers putting things in pockets, because there are no pockets in their clothing, and any needed equipment is attached to special belts.

Interestingly, the book also says the show took the basic idea of NASA&#039;s description of futuristic clothing, which sounded like long underwear to Roddenberry, and added color and style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>234. Yeah, maybe they have pockets :-)</p>
<p>Still, I wanted to recall what Roddenberry had originally intended for Star Trek&#8217;s clothing.  In &#8220;The Making of Star Trek&#8221;, an excerpt from the Star Trek Guide says the show should never have crewmembers putting things in pockets, because there are no pockets in their clothing, and any needed equipment is attached to special belts.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the book also says the show took the basic idea of NASA&#8217;s description of futuristic clothing, which sounded like long underwear to Roddenberry, and added color and style.</p>
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