Comments on: “The Savage Curtain” Remastered Review + Screenshots & Video

By: Engon

Engon — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:09:17 +0000

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You can go to startrek.com right now and see that James Doohan is still credited as the voice of Trelane’s fathers in “Squire of Gothos,” when clearly it is Bart La Rue (who is also the voice of Yarneck in “Savage Curtain”). Seems like mistakes like this just won’t die.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:35:37 +0000

#145—-Noted, but it doesn’t change anything. It is still abundantly clear that the decision to make the Klingons treat “honor” (or at least their interpretation of it) like a religion was not acted upon until TNG (which will always be, in my mind, a “spinoff” of the original Star Trek, regardless of GR’s early involvement).

Kruge’s single line of dialogue with Valkris in STIII, “You will be remembered with honor”, may have inadvertently spawned the reboot of an entire ST alien species. They certainly did not start out that way…

By: Sean4000

Sean4000 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:31:05 +0000

Nice mustafar-like planet. Ship still looks like a plastic toy, sorry. Hate the movement and overall render.

They don’t have the TNG negatives………………..I’m speechless………….I really am.

By: eagle219406

eagle219406 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:17:23 +0000

#140: The “honorable Klingon” was simply invented later in the 4 series which were “based upon Star Trek”. TOS Klingons were just good villains…nothing more, nothing less.

Actually only 3 were “based on” Star Trek. TNG was in fact created by Gene Roddenberry. By the time DS9 was created, he had already died so they had to put in the “Based on” for copyright purposes.

By: Andy Patterson

Andy Patterson — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:54:59 +0000

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*Also did Galactus on the Fantastic Four cartoons to Vic Perrin’s Silver Surfer.

*and evidently…as I keep reading, played the harpsichord too.

By: OR Coast Trekkie

OR Coast Trekkie — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:11:36 +0000

Great planet, enjoyed the wide angle shot of the Enterprise in orbit of the planet.

By: FredCFO

FredCFO — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:39:15 +0000

Some interesting Ted Cassidy Credits
•writer, “the Harrad Experiment” (1973)
•Voiceovers for cartoons such as Space Ghost, Herculoids, and the Galaxy Trio
•Voice of Balok’s puppet
•The guy Butch beats up in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
•Played Isaiah in Genesis II, Planet Earth
•Opening credits narrator for the Incredible Hulk
•Born 1932, died 1979

By: eagle219406

eagle219406 — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:14:17 +0000

There is one good vs. evil thing that they seemed to have not done in this episode. I have seen many Good Vs. Evil shows and many of them involved teams. The concept of Teamwork. That is something they didn’t seem to go into in this. On many of the shows I have seen that involved this concept, the good team managed to “work as one.” THey were truly able to work as a team, which was what lead them to victory. The evil team, while they may have started out as one, would eventually end up fighting amongst themselves. They would say one plan is better than another, and if there was a failure, they would pin the blame on every other member of the team. The concept of teamwork, Good could do it, evil could not. That was something that I found a bit confusing is that the evil team actually seemed to work together. Which is rare amongst evil.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:02:09 +0000

#130—”The whole notion postulated after “Enterprise Incident” & STIII that Klingons and Romulans were exchanging technologies was kind of jettisoned when we started seeing 22nd century Klingon Birds-of-Prey (and even one early dialogue mistake had T’Pol identifying a Klingon ship as a “Klingon Warbird”!)”

That goes right back to my opinion that Klingons should never have had those ships in the first place. I always hated the whole “exchange of technology” bit. What did the Klingons have that was worth (to the xenophobic Romulans no less) giving up their most significant strategic advantage (the cloaking device)? Why did Klingons need scoutships painted like birds of prey which are far too weak to stand up against a Federation starship? What the heck was wrong with the D-7 battlecruiser?

The exchange was just a poorly thought-out fanboy “explanation” for budgetary and logistical problems which interfered with continuity.

I prefer ENT’s ignorance of the imaginary treaty…The only actual canonical evidence of its possible existence was this line in TOS, “The Enterprise Incident”—-

“Intelligence reports Romulans now using Klingon design.”–Spock.

We all know the behind-the-scenes story.

But they could have bought them for all we know. It is only the appearance of a Klingon vessel utilizing a cloaking device (and painted like a Romulan ship) in TSFS which suggests that there was any sort of exchange in the first place.

Again, we know that the villains in TSFS were originally supposed to be Romulans, in which case the ship and its cloaking device would have made much more sense.

I wish ENT had ignored the Klingon BOP altogether (and instead, only depicted earlier battlecruiser designs), but at least they debunked the “exchange” theory I hated all along to some degree…

#138—”The Kahless recreation was probably derived from Starfleet proganda and the crew’s own (and limited) POVs of Klingons in general. In their minds, it wouldn’t be inconceivable for a bullying Klingon to turn tail and run.”

You can buy that explanation (and I’m not sure I wouldn’t either), but the truth is, there is nothing in TOS which suggests that Kahless could not have been a cowardly bully. He would have then been more consistent with Klingons like Kor’s second in command on Organia, Kras on Capella IV, etc. Not every Klingon in TOS was as formidable and disciplined as Kor and Kang. The “honorable Klingon” was simply invented later in the 4 series which were “based upon Star Trek”. TOS Klingons were just good villains…nothing more, nothing less.

By: bdrcarter

bdrcarter — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:46:47 +0000

One of the worst examples of music clearances I’ve run across came from an episode of The Greatest American Hero. Ralph and Bill were working to stop a nuclear war from breaking out. The aliens (The Guardians?) that gave Ralph the suit are sending him messages on his car radio. They kept dedicating the song “Eve of Destruction” to him. Suffice to say…that specific song was pivotal to the plot. Apparently they couldn’t clear the rights for the DVD release and had to replace it with a total different song…even though it was still referred to by name in the script! Bet the producers were bummed. Of course in those days, who knew to plan for a video release when negotiating with music publishers?

“Look at what’s happened to me. I can’t believe it myself. Suddenly I’m up on top of the world. It should have been somebody else.”