Comments on: Orci & Kurtzman: No Gay Characters in Star Trek http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/ the source for Star Trek news and information Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:42:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Anthony Pascale http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853169 Anthony Pascale Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:57:11 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853169 sorry but a number of posts that had to be deleted convince me again that some people cannot take a hint. Maybe next time the subject comes up people can talk about it without getting personal and disrespectful CLOSED sorry but a number of posts that had to be deleted convince me again that some people cannot take a hint. Maybe next time the subject comes up people can talk about it without getting personal and disrespectful

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]]> By: Denise de Arman http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853160 Denise de Arman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:50:47 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853160 Harry#74- Bravo! Bravo, my big, sexy studmuffin. The thread is up to 75 now without Anthony being required to close it yet - YEAH! Harry#74- Bravo! Bravo, my big, sexy studmuffin. The thread is up to 75 now without Anthony being required to close it yet – YEAH!

]]> By: Harry Ballz http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853155 Harry Ballz Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:47:21 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853155 When told to "love one another" It wasn't just brother to brother You see, love holds no bounds So, please, make the rounds After all, it's yours to discover! When told to “love one another”
It wasn’t just brother to brother
You see, love holds no bounds
So, please, make the rounds
After all, it’s yours to discover!

]]> By: helenofpeel http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853150 helenofpeel Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:43:25 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853150 Ok, I do understand wanting role models of all kinds... remember Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations??? Trek doesn't really show any openly gay characters. It shows characters, where we can make any assumption we want. But love and couples have been shown as heterosexual, with the possible exception of the one TNG episode where there is no gender and no sex, yet Will Riker falls in love with one of them anyway until the person's brain is wiped clean... You see, there was a bigger message in that episode. To portray a gay character means you'll be wiped clean in Hollywood. Why do you think people like Jodie Foster and George Takei waited so long to come out? Because being gay equals loss of money-making potential. Are there gay characters in Star Trek. I'm sure there are. We are just left to guess as it will not be openly addressed by the studios. I agree, a crewmember need not run down the hall shouting, "I'm crewman Redshirt and I'm Gay!" On the other hand two women or two men making eyes at each other shouldn't be controversial in Star Trek. Look at Capt Jack in Torchwood / Doctor Who. I'm a transsexual and I'm not demanding a transsexual character! Capt Kirk already did that! ;) Ok, I do understand wanting role models of all kinds… remember Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations???

Trek doesn’t really show any openly gay characters. It shows characters, where we can make any assumption we want. But love and couples have been shown as heterosexual, with the possible exception of the one TNG episode where there is no gender and no sex, yet Will Riker falls in love with one of them anyway until the person’s brain is wiped clean…

You see, there was a bigger message in that episode. To portray a gay character means you’ll be wiped clean in Hollywood. Why do you think people like Jodie Foster and George Takei waited so long to come out? Because being gay equals loss of money-making potential.

Are there gay characters in Star Trek. I’m sure there are. We are just left to guess as it will not be openly addressed by the studios.

I agree, a crewmember need not run down the hall shouting, “I’m crewman Redshirt and I’m Gay!” On the other hand two women or two men making eyes at each other shouldn’t be controversial in Star Trek.

Look at Capt Jack in Torchwood / Doctor Who.

I’m a transsexual and I’m not demanding a transsexual character! Capt Kirk already did that! ;)

]]> By: Denise de Arman http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853147 Denise de Arman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:41:06 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853147 Harry, sweetums', you can do better than that. Write a snarky limerick, a ribald play on words, something! Do it for the children... Harry, sweetums’, you can do better than that. Write a snarky limerick, a ribald play on words, something! Do it for the children…

]]> By: krikzil http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853133 krikzil Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:30:46 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853133 And we all know what happens to redshirts..... And we all know what happens to redshirts…..

]]> By: Harry Ballz http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853129 Harry Ballz Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:29:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853129 God doesn't make mistakes.....or some such notion! God doesn’t make mistakes…..or some such notion!

]]> By: trekboi http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853110 trekboi Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:22:50 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853110 i dont see the problem- its as simple as a throw away line- eg: one redshirt says to the other redshirt- have u heard from ur boyfriend since we left earth...? we dont need a central gay character just the acknolegement that their are gay people in the Star Trek universe. Thats all- no starfleet floats in the pride parades- no rainbow flag bumper stickers on the galeleo 7 or drag nights on the ship just one character that is homosexual and the fact that it is no issue. i dont see the problem- its as simple as a throw away line- eg:

one redshirt says to the other redshirt- have u heard from ur boyfriend since we left earth…?

we dont need a central gay character just the acknolegement that their are gay people in the Star Trek universe.

Thats all- no starfleet floats in the pride parades- no rainbow flag bumper stickers on the galeleo 7 or drag nights on the ship just one character that is homosexual and the fact that it is no issue.

]]> By: krikzil http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853099 krikzil Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:11:47 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853099 "In my opinion, nothing should be done just for the sake of doing it. " Ah, but isn't that exactly what Gene Roddenberry did by creating such a racially diverse crew? While I'm not someone who worships at the Altar of GR, I do think he was brave and bold and amazing for doing this. (Heck, even though killed by TPTB, Number One was ground-breaking too.) I agree totally with your assessment of this movie. The ship has sailed -- these are established characters. I'm just commenting on the missed opportunities in Trek's history. “In my opinion, nothing should be done just for the sake of doing it. ”

Ah, but isn’t that exactly what Gene Roddenberry did by creating such a racially diverse crew? While I’m not someone who worships at the Altar of GR, I do think he was brave and bold and amazing for doing this. (Heck, even though killed by TPTB, Number One was ground-breaking too.)

I agree totally with your assessment of this movie. The ship has sailed — these are established characters. I’m just commenting on the missed opportunities in Trek’s history.

]]> By: trekboi http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/comment-page-2/#comment-853098 trekboi Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:11:45 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/15/orci-kurtzman-no-gay-characters-in-star-trek/#comment-853098 It is simple- if they do not put gay characters in star trek they are saying "it" was one of the diseases cured by the 24th century- this is not acceptible- gene wanted gay characters in the show- it was part of his vision that he didnt achieve due to his leaving tng due to illness. where is the boldly going that gene managed in the 60's now its just the same over again- safe and predictable- not standing out at all amoungst the rest. Star Trek was always different It is simple- if they do not put gay characters in star trek they are saying “it” was one of the diseases cured by the 24th century- this is not acceptible- gene wanted gay characters in the show- it was part of his vision that he didnt achieve due to his leaving tng due to illness.
where is the boldly going that gene managed in the 60’s now its just the same over again- safe and predictable- not standing out at all amoungst the rest.
Star Trek was always different

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