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	<title>Comments on: Clifton Collins Talks Trek Cheese and New Villains</title>
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		<title>By: mada101</title>
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		<dc:creator>mada101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Clifton Collins Jr., who plays General Ayel, the right hand to Eric Bana’s Nero in the new Star Trek says that new film is for the fans: &quot;We’re serving the people who are completely enamored with Star Trek.&quot;&quot;

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&quot;He’s totally reinvented the whole thing and taken the cheese out of it. I tried to watch some of the old ‘Star Treks’ and with all due respect, they were probably cool at the time, but I couldn’t watch them. [The new movie] is the real deal. It’s just got a lot of reality. It’s not corny at all.&quot;

More than a bit contradictory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clifton Collins Jr., who plays General Ayel, the right hand to Eric Bana’s Nero in the new Star Trek says that new film is for the fans: &#8220;We’re serving the people who are completely enamored with Star Trek.&#8221;"</p>
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<p>&#8220;He’s totally reinvented the whole thing and taken the cheese out of it. I tried to watch some of the old ‘Star Treks’ and with all due respect, they were probably cool at the time, but I couldn’t watch them. [The new movie] is the real deal. It’s just got a lot of reality. It’s not corny at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>More than a bit contradictory?</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it ain&#039;t easy bein&#039; cheesy..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it ain&#8217;t easy bein&#8217; cheesy..</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new poster looks good and has eliviated some concerns about the new actors.

Still annoyed with this guy for saying TOS is unwatchable.

TOS is still very watchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new poster looks good and has eliviated some concerns about the new actors.</p>
<p>Still annoyed with this guy for saying TOS is unwatchable.</p>
<p>TOS is still very watchable.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#117: I think there&#039;s a faint chance he&#039;s just joking. I mean, again, consider the evidence ... we have a Romulan-centered time-travel plot starring a bald villain named Nero, for Christ&#039;s sake. That&#039;s seventy-five metric tons of Commercial-Grade Processed Cheese Food Product, right there, and this guy is playing the sidekick to the Big Cheese.

There&#039;s no such thing as a non-cheesy Romulan time-travel plot anyway, but when you embody the film&#039;s threats in a villain ... *and* name him Nero ... that tips your hat that you&#039;re not only making a purposely cheesy movie, but that you may well be determined to out-cheese them all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#117: I think there&#8217;s a faint chance he&#8217;s just joking. I mean, again, consider the evidence &#8230; we have a Romulan-centered time-travel plot starring a bald villain named Nero, for Christ&#8217;s sake. That&#8217;s seventy-five metric tons of Commercial-Grade Processed Cheese Food Product, right there, and this guy is playing the sidekick to the Big Cheese.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as a non-cheesy Romulan time-travel plot anyway, but when you embody the film&#8217;s threats in a villain &#8230; *and* name him Nero &#8230; that tips your hat that you&#8217;re not only making a purposely cheesy movie, but that you may well be determined to out-cheese them all :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an idiot and pompass, arrogant ass! If it wasnt for &#039;cheese&#039; this guy would not have a paycheck! And obviously, &#039;Cheese&#039; worked all these years or else, you would not have 10 movies, over 800 hours on T.V. 5 spinoffs and a multi million dollar merchandise industry spanning over 40 years! So, if this movie is the &#039;real deal&#039; what does that make TOS? The fake deal? It sounds to me that they are trying replace 40 years of history and this comment is the icing on the cake. Lets not forget ENT and NEM were supposed to be more hard hitting and realistic, and look at what happened! &#039;probably cool at the time&#039; well, if TOS was cool at the time, then why is it still being shown in it&#039;s redone glory every week? They would not show it if no one watched it!  It is comments like these that make me not want to see this movie, due to their lack of respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an idiot and pompass, arrogant ass! If it wasnt for &#8216;cheese&#8217; this guy would not have a paycheck! And obviously, &#8216;Cheese&#8217; worked all these years or else, you would not have 10 movies, over 800 hours on T.V. 5 spinoffs and a multi million dollar merchandise industry spanning over 40 years! So, if this movie is the &#8216;real deal&#8217; what does that make TOS? The fake deal? It sounds to me that they are trying replace 40 years of history and this comment is the icing on the cake. Lets not forget ENT and NEM were supposed to be more hard hitting and realistic, and look at what happened! &#8216;probably cool at the time&#8217; well, if TOS was cool at the time, then why is it still being shown in it&#8217;s redone glory every week? They would not show it if no one watched it!  It is comments like these that make me not want to see this movie, due to their lack of respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>77
&quot;The Empath (yes, i’m probably in the minority there, but I loved that the nonexistent stage environments&quot;....

 Deforest Kelley cited this as probably his favorite episode in an interview near the end of his life due in part to the staging of the episode.  As a kid I loathed it.   The passage of time, the birth of my kids, and 16 yrs of public school teaching have made me look at things differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>77<br />
&#8220;The Empath (yes, i’m probably in the minority there, but I loved that the nonexistent stage environments&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p> Deforest Kelley cited this as probably his favorite episode in an interview near the end of his life due in part to the staging of the episode.  As a kid I loathed it.   The passage of time, the birth of my kids, and 16 yrs of public school teaching have made me look at things differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clifton Collins sounds like an idiot, or just another kid who has no sense of TV history.  Star Trek is 40+ years OLD.  If you watch ANY drama from 1966, or 1967 they are ALL cheesy, the dialog, the sets, the clothes.

TWOK is cheesy - Kahn&#039;s blond surfer dudes, David Markus with his sweater on his shoulders.  The first year of TNG is Cheesy.

It&#039;s called TIME.  in 30 years JJ&#039;s will look cheesy.

For it&#039;s time Star Trek was DEAD serious, Dagger of the Mind, What Are Little Girls Made Of, Miri, A Private Little War, Metamorphosis.

Try to have a little bit more insight than what has happen in the last 12 months, Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clifton Collins sounds like an idiot, or just another kid who has no sense of TV history.  Star Trek is 40+ years OLD.  If you watch ANY drama from 1966, or 1967 they are ALL cheesy, the dialog, the sets, the clothes.</p>
<p>TWOK is cheesy &#8211; Kahn&#8217;s blond surfer dudes, David Markus with his sweater on his shoulders.  The first year of TNG is Cheesy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called TIME.  in 30 years JJ&#8217;s will look cheesy.</p>
<p>For it&#8217;s time Star Trek was DEAD serious, Dagger of the Mind, What Are Little Girls Made Of, Miri, A Private Little War, Metamorphosis.</p>
<p>Try to have a little bit more insight than what has happen in the last 12 months, Cliff</p>
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		<title>By: SoMuchCoolerInPerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoMuchCoolerInPerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any fan  should be able to see there&#039;s definitely a distinctive &quot;cheese&quot; difference between the TOS series &amp; the TOS movies.  I think the new film will take Trek to a new level of reality &amp; seriousness while still defining the characters we&#039;ve always loved.  Look at James Bond.  There&#039;s a huge difference in the Roger Moore films than there is with almost all the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fan  should be able to see there&#8217;s definitely a distinctive &#8220;cheese&#8221; difference between the TOS series &amp; the TOS movies.  I think the new film will take Trek to a new level of reality &amp; seriousness while still defining the characters we&#8217;ve always loved.  Look at James Bond.  There&#8217;s a huge difference in the Roger Moore films than there is with almost all the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: The Last Maquis</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Last Maquis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dwiy!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dwiy!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: krikzil</title>
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		<dc:creator>krikzil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wow - were you enrolled there when they were filming? &quot;

Yes. And the wondeful part was that several members of our sci-fi club (The 3rd Foundation) were members of the Audio Visual department and had keys to every buiding on campus.  Heh heh. So we moved from room to room for optimum viewing.  And then finally just went down and they didn&#039;t seem to care.  More in chat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow &#8211; were you enrolled there when they were filming? &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. And the wondeful part was that several members of our sci-fi club (The 3rd Foundation) were members of the Audio Visual department and had keys to every buiding on campus.  Heh heh. So we moved from room to room for optimum viewing.  And then finally just went down and they didn&#8217;t seem to care.  More in chat&#8230;</p>
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