Both great movies. Both dark and different. Good didn’t win in either.

#97 – it may not have been disigned as solely a kids’ show in the same way that, say, “Lost in Space” was, but I’ve never met anyone who grew up watching it in the ’60’s who would disgaree with the idea that young people were the core of the target audience, or whose parents didn;t thinkof it as a kids’ show. Also, grownups didn’t usually buy toys, er, I mean “collectibles” for themselves back then, so I don’t imagine that those early ones would have been produced if TPTB hadn’t known that a lot of kids were watching.

” Calling Xai “baby” = bad move. I’m surprised she hasn’t dropped the hammer on you big time for that.”

Especially since she is a he, and HE is me. I’ve checked, and yes I am a male, thankyouverymuch.

I found some rewarding content in Transformers. it was called Megan Fox! ;)

Oh, I agree 100%. I was just saying that the intent was not to make a children’s TV show/movie, whereas Transformers – for example – clearly was made and marketed to children directly. Even though adults might find some rewarding content, it isn’t made for them. Trek, on the other hand, was made for adults but could also be enjoyed by kids even if they didn’t ‘get’ all of it.

Read this, then come back to the debate!

Read every article from that era all the way through to the present day. Read Ron Moore’s interviews. Read interviews with writers, directors and producers of TNG! Maybe you never watched TNG, but there wasn’t a single human argument in the show for years!

I’m not making this up! Neither is anyone else on this forum. And if you imply that again, the rest of us are going to get cross, because you would clearly be taking the pee!

While you have a right to your assertion that absolutely no confliict existed in TNG before the arrival of Ro, I have tough time believeing that anyone could really believe such a thing, so I’m assuming you were indulging in a bit of hyperbole.

The type of conflict between characters may not have been to your taste, but to assert that it didn’t exist strikes me as patently ridiculous.

LMAO. That just cracks me up.

“But Trek isn’t truly ‘for’ kids. They would fail to grasp many of the themes being explored”

True enough in that it would not all be completely understood. But that does not mean that kids are not entertained by it. I fell in love with TOS at age 6 or 7. Of course, seeing it again as a teenager and later as an adult produced very different internal reactions (some better, some worse), but even as a very young child, I understood some of its more basic messages and themes. My point is, while I do not disagree that some of it is too complex for small children, that does not mean that it is without any value to them.