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Farewell Review of Star Trek The Experience August 6, 2008

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Conventions/Events/Attractions,Trek Franchise , trackback

Star Trek The Experience, at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, will close down on September 1st. While here at the Creation Las Vegas Star Trek Convention, TrekMovie decided to say goodbye and take one last run through and do our first (and last) review of the premiere Star Trek attraction.

 

Star Trek The Experience is much more than just motion simulator rides, It is, as the name implies, a complete ‘experience’ in the universe of Star Trek. When visiting you can, for the most part, pick and choose what parts to explore, with each one covered below

Star Trek museum
If you purchase tickets for two rides (at a price $45), you walk along a path that is the ‘Star Trek museum.’ This is broken into two components. The first is information panels such as the ‘timeline of the future’ which is a basic Trek Chronology, and it has been updated to include Enterprise, but it doesn’t get nearly the coverage as TOS and TNG get. There are also sections covering aliens, ships and weapons. The graphics are fine, but for a hardcore Trekkie there isn’t a lot of new information. The second component of the Museum are genuine props and costumes from the films and TV series and this is the more interesting component. Although it is a mix of genuine items vs. replicas, it is great to get up close to some of these iconic items from Zefram Cochrane’s outfit in First Contact to Spock’s coffin-pedo from Star Trek II. It is an excellent collection, and larger than the touring Star Trek The Exhibition (although the former ‘Tour’ may have had more stuff in total). The most impressive part are the TOS costumes and props.


Enterprise required STTE to redo their timeline


The ENT and STFC stuff is real, the TOS stuff probably not

Ride 1: Klingon Encounter
The original ride at Star Trek The Experience when it opened back in 1998 was the Klingon Encounter. The premise is that you are modern day earthlings who are about to go on a simulator when you are suddenly ‘beamed’ onto the USS Enterprise where Captain Picard has suddenly vanished due to some Klingon who pulled your group into the future (apparently one of your fellow riders is Picard’s great great great great great grandfather). You are taken to an excellent recreation of the Enterprise D bridge and briefed by Riker and Geordi (played by Frakes and Burton), then whisked off to a shuttle bay which is where the ‘ride’ part really begins. The motion simulator shuttle plays a film on a curved screen that is pretty immersive if you are sitting in one of the front rows. Even at over 10 years of age the simulator still gives a very thrilling ride throwing passengers around (or they would be if they didn’t have seatbelts on). The simulated battle and flight graphics are a bit dated, especially the view of Vegas, but it is still a thrill to fly by the Enterprise D so close you can almost see Guinan serving drinks. Another excellent component of the ride are all of the ‘Starfleet personnel’ you encounter while you are moved around from room to room to shuttle. All the actors stay in character and really sell the little adventure you are taken on.


The ENT and STFC stuff is real, the TOS stuff probably not

Ride 2: Borg Invasion 4-D
Originally STTE has two Klingon Encounters to allow large groups at the same time. But in 2004 one of the Encounters was removed and assimilated by a new ride, Borg Invasion 4-D. The conceit on this one is that you are in the future and visiting Copernicus Station. You enter an orientation room where The Doctor (played by Bob Picardo) briefs you on how you can save humanity, but then a Borg cube is detected and starts slicing up the station and assimilating the crew. Soon you are again whisked from room to room, all the while watching as cast members drop like flies to the Borg until eventually you are taken to a shuttle, but in this case it is a much larger shuttle than in Klingon Encounter, because this one is a full sized theater. There you take a ride that brings you into a cube and you get assimilated by the Borg Queen herself (played by Alice Krige) only to be saved by Admiral Janeway on the USS Voyager (played by Kate Mulgrew). Although the theater doesn’t have the motion simulator effects of the Klingon Encounter, there are still a lot of rumblings and air sprayed at you and things that poke you in your seat. Plus the 2004 3-D visuals (requiring your ‘safety glasses’) are much better than those of the Klingon Encounter.


Borg 4-D Theater/Shuttle

Shopping Promenade
Although the rides are all about TNG and Voyager, the rest of the Experience is all about Deep Space Nine. One side of the Experience is a curved to resemble DS9’s promenade and is full of shops and kiosks where you can buy a wide array of Trek apparel, toys, and other merchandise. There is a good selection, but mostly geared towards tourists and so the hard core collector wont be fully satisfied. There are also some rare signed items. It is fun to be in stores full of Trek merchandise and DS9 theme is fitting and fun, but the prices are a bit high (especially for the DVDs). Regardless, The Experience managers expect to have all their inventory sold by the time they close in a few weeks.


A great place to blow your latinum


Born pregnant, and on sale

Quark’s Bar and Restaurant
A favorite part of STTE for regulars is Quark’s. Again the DS9 theme works for a Trek-themed eatery and bar and the decor does feel like the 24th century we have been led to expect. The bar menu is full of Trek-named items like Warp Core Breach and The Mind Melt, which are all essentially fruity rum and vodka drinks priced $8.50 and up. Quark’s Restaurant menu is also full of Trek sounding dishes like The Sulu Toss, The Holy Rings of Betazed  and Seven of Nine’s Seafood Collective (mmm nano-probes). However the fare is essentially competent, but not exceptional, comfort diner food. The prices are not a match for the food, so you are definitely paying a premium for the Trek environment. The atmosphere is fun, with Star Trek movie and TV clips playing on the big screens, but it would have been nice to see more variety in the menu over the years and maybe so real alien looking food.  


Many a ‘Morn’ will miss Quark’s

The Aliens
A key part of your experience at The Experience is encountering the many ‘aliens’ that patrol around. The make-up and costumes are top notch and these actors do not break character. I talked to one of the Klingons and tried to get out of him if he thought it was a big crowd and all he would say is "there are more human dogs than usual." .


Dealing with a Klingon makes the wait for the ride go faster

Back Stage Tour
An interesting option you can take at The Experience is the Back Stage Tour, which costs extra. For the tour you are taken on a similar experience of going on one of the rides, but with a guide and shown everything from ‘behind the scenes.’ The guides are knowledgeable and explain all the aspects of Experience and are able to answer even detailed questions. My guide Lisa was clearly an Original Series fan and had some good trivia questions that stumped even some die-hard Trekkies in the group. One of the most interesting parts is being able to watch the Klingon Encounter, but from underneath the motion simulator shuttles. You also visit the make-up rooms and actual back office areas where you can see the Starfleet and alien cast members milling about, but they never break character even when heading for the Coke machine.

Bottom line
Star Trek The Experience is a must for any fan of Star Trek, and if you have the chance to go for the first time or the last time you should take it. That being said, it is hard to make the case that The Experience should have continued as is for another decade. The Experience was build in 1997 and it feels like it. The Klingon Encounter is fun, but it looks its age.  The emphasis on TNG and DS9 is unavoidable, even with the Voyager-themed Borg 4-D  ride. The minimal amount of Enterprise and Original Series makes it not truly a full Star Trek experience. If CBS is successful in finding a new home for STTE, hopefully there will be a rethink on STTE, especially with the new Original Series oriented feature film in mind.

Despite all this, it must be pointed out that the staff at STTE are top notch. They are what make The Experience still work despite the age. Their dedication and love for Star Trek is  infectious and will be missed.

So, it is sorry to see it go, but maybe, in the end, this is a good thing (although not for the dozens of dedicated and talented people working at Star Trek The Experience). Hopefully in a few years with a revived franchise we will see a new type of Star Trek attraction that is more modern, covers the whole franchise, and is more interactive. A bit more affordable would also be welcome.

For more about Star Trek The Experience, visit the official site.

Saying Goodbye
A nice new addition to The Experience is the ‘Wall of Memories’ where you can write your own personal goodbye to STTE.


You can say goodbye with your own memory

The Experience closes its doors September 1st to begin the process of vacating the space by the end of the year. Operations Manager Chat Boutte tells TrekMovie that they are planning a special de-commissioning ceremony. There are likely to be special celebrity guests to help pull STTE into drydock. There will also be a special ‘last tour’ for invited guests and some of the most loyal customers (one guy is close to his 1000th ride). Boutte is also considering offering some of those last tour tickets up on Ebay. As more details are worked out for the final day of STTE, TrekMovie will provide an update.  

 

Comments

1. Sean4000 - August 7, 2008

Great review. Shame I live so far away from the experience. I never saw it.

2. allister Gourlay - August 7, 2008

Same here going to vegas in November to…. damn!

3. MiamiTrek - August 7, 2008

I was fortunate enough to be able to go twice, once in 99 and once again in ’04. I wasn’t too impressed with the Borg 4-D, but I did enjoy the Klingon Encounter.

I will always remember the spine tingling sensation of being “beamed aboard” and walking through the corridors of the Enterprise and then the bridge. It was truly a dream come true and sensory overload in the biggest way.

It’s sad to see that it’s going away. I wish I could make it out there just one more time, but alas I think it’s not going to happen. I have some really great memories of being there. Especially of being with my best friend at Quark’s Bar on the day we were supposed to fly back to Miami and we were downing Raktajinos (sp?) and after about 6 of them we looked up and saw news of Hurricane Wilma bearing down on South Florida. We found out our flight was cancelled and we just spent the rest of the day in Quark’s Bar getting…umm, killing our thirst, so to speak.

:-( Bye STTE….we had fun times together.

4. Duane - August 7, 2008

I enjoyed the Experience but was later disappointed to learn that my guide (I paid extra from the behind the scenes tour) incorrectly told my group that all of the props in the display cases were genuine. Later I learned that not all are (as this review notes) and I have no way to know which is which.

5. Ryan Spooner - August 7, 2008

@ #4

Does it really matter? It’s not like you own them or anything. So as long as they looked the part it’s all good. Although your guide telling you a mis-truth is annoying I guess.

6. Clark - August 7, 2008

I’d have loved to have seen this. Hope somebody else picks it up some day.

7. Duane - August 7, 2008

#5

I don’t think the guide knew he was telling a mis-truth, but there’s no way for me to know. He was a totally cool, likable dude and an outstanding guide.

It sort of matters to me if the stuff is real or not. I saw a few items that I would attempt to purchase if they ever come up at auction, especially the device Spock made on City on the Edge using stone knives and bearskins. But if it’s a replica, it’s not worth much.

Would love to know if anyone thinks it is real, or has reason to suspect it is a replica.

8. Quarksbarteder - August 7, 2008

Having worked there for eight and a half years I would just like to say thank you to all the fans that have graced our establishment, for many great memories, and I look forward to many more Star Trek Experiences!!!!

9. Quarksbartender - August 7, 2008

Wow I misspelled it,its Quarksbartender and once again thank you.

10. MikeyPikey - August 7, 2008

well i never gots to see or never will i guess, hmmm i hope something like this shows up in the not too distant future. mm how about star trek land in universal studios, sweeet. there’s already marvel there, yeah move over spidie..

11. SD - August 7, 2008

I hope they’ll redo it and open it somewhere else if/when the new movie becomes a hit :)) *crosses fingers*

12. Of Bajor - August 7, 2008

It really sucks that all the cool Trek stuff is in the US :(

13. Duane - August 7, 2008

Anthony, if you can recall I would love to know the trivia questions that Lisa used to stump some hard core fans.

I recall my guide only gave us one hard one, but I may be mistaken. He asked if anyone know what GNDN (written on some bulkheads/walls) stood for and I must have read it somewhere since I knew the answer: Goes Nowhere, Does Nothing.

Your description of the quality of the tour guides and other staff is spot on.

14. The Underpants Monster - August 7, 2008

Thanks for the memories!

I was in Vegas to have some cosmetic dentistry done at LVI (I was my local dentist’s test case for his course there), and so I was in some pain and badly needing distraction. Immersing myself in the Trek universe was the best medicine.

I remember a Ferengi coming up to me in the bar and saying, “I don’t know how you hu-mons can drink so slowly!”

15. Digginjim - August 7, 2008

‘The Sulu Toss’… ahem…..

16. Raktajino - August 7, 2008

Hearing that it was closing I was able to quickly book a trip out there and went last week. I had a blast and spent 10 hours at The Experience last Wednesday. Just taking my time on the rides, gambling, shopping, eating, and drinking was wonderful. STTE wasn’t as crisp as it was when I visited it first back in 1999, the gift shop didn’t have as good of stuff, and my favorite Warp Wrap wasn’t on the menu, but that didn’t deter me from enjoying every minute of it. I’m so very glad I made this one final pilgramage, and I will savor the memories for years to come.

17. star trackie - August 7, 2008

Many of the props, like the older TOS items, were fabircated, I believe, by HMS studios, or at least I think that’s their name. They are the same FX team that created the props for much of the Berman-era TV shows and also creates many of the prop replicas for Roddenberry.com. But still very cool to see them. Especially things like the Gorn. With the original latex long gone, it’s great to see a fabrication of it and be able to see what it would have looked like fresh out of Wah Chang’s molds.

18. lwr - August 7, 2008

visited this attraction back in the 1990’s.
( i believe the show was about a bird of prey attcking vegas or something…)

it was real cool.

loved the display stuff and Quarks.

I never liked the fact that it was in vegas. bringing our kids to see it was like going thru security at the airport.

stay in line.don’t pass the ropes. really uptight about kids in a casino.

maybe if the new Trek movie does blockbusters we might see the experience re-emerge at Universal or something ( much like the OLD interactive adventure they used to have)

19. AJ - August 7, 2008

So ‘Star Trek: The Exhibition’ IS in fact defunct?

I must say, I had the pleasure to visit the Experience twice, and I truly appreciate the effort put n by the team. I hope it’s mothballed for a better day, and not all sold on eBay.

20. Deano 8472 - August 7, 2008

Awwwww it would be a dream to go :( im so gutted i havent been :( why there not anything like this in the UK god damn it!

21. Andy Patterson - August 7, 2008

I thought it was a really cool place. To tell the truth it was one of the only reasons I went to Vegas.

22. paustin - August 7, 2008

I’m really bummed out to see this go, I’ve done the Klingon encounter several times, but never got to see the Borg encounter (somehow I havent managed to make it out there lately)

23. Dennis Bailey - August 7, 2008

If there’d been more emphasis on “Enterprise” and TOS I might have made it out there at some point. Bummer.

24. David P - August 7, 2008

great review, i can’t believe there is no “khan encounter” where I could fool him like the great and powerful James T Kirk

25. Marcus Johnson - August 7, 2008

That’s sad that Star Trek The Experience is closing down, that’s where Trekkie’s are born.

26. Daoud - August 7, 2008

Vega$. Star Trek. Never made sense in the first place. CBS should reincarnate STE where it should have been… in LA as part of a Paramount studio tour, comparable to Universal’s.

Didn’t do the rides when I saw STE… but did the rest. Too grating… having STE stuck in the middle of a casino. The writing was already on the wall in 2005 as I saw it that STE wasn’t going to last long. As others noted, the Quarks Bar concept was really wasted. Sure, they had the in-character actors done superbly, and a wonderful staff. But the food was crap, and the menu naming was pathetic. Holy Rings of Betazed. Sure.

When Vega$ tried to become the “family destination” a decade ago, this sort of made sense. But that ship has long sailed….

It’s perhaps unfortunate that the only cities that would make sense to be “a new homebase for Star Trek” are either too small (Riverside, Iowa), too small and too remote (Vulcan, Alberta), or too large (LA). If only Paramount Parks had managed to situate STE in the population-middle of the country at Kings Island near Cincinnati, Ohio!

In a situation like that, STE could live long and prosper…. STE would fit so well at a park like this… When Paramount Parks did their Star Trek shows at Carowinds in the mid 90’s… those were a perfect combination. Trek and rollercoasters…. Much better than Trek and gambling.

27. Denise de Arman - August 7, 2008

Wonderful article, Anthony. Those fans who have not been fortunate enough to experience The Experience can get a glimpse, through your eyes, of this spectacular Trek homage before it is gone. Thank you.

28. Dr. Image - August 7, 2008

I really liked the place. Had two visits. The second time though, things were looking a little ratty.
Hope they move it somewhere else- permanantly this time.

That timeline would have to be seriously reworked to fit the new movie in.

29. Jaz - August 7, 2008

I was by chance in Vegas when Borg Invasion 4D premiered, and was lucky enough to meet Bob Picardo while waiting in line. Great experience – too bad it’s closing.

30. Elisa - August 7, 2008

I’m hoping you’re going to the party at the Experience on Friday night.

Maybe if you could get some video for those who have never had the chance to experience it? :)

31. Wolf Trek - August 7, 2008

I remember being totally blown away with STTE when I first went in the late 90’s, and how it felt “tired” when I went back a few years ago when they opened the Borg attraction. It really is in need of a refresh and I look forward to the new version whenever it gets built.
The backstage tour was the best part of the Experience. I had a great guide and it was fun to poke around behind walls while people were going through the ride. And even after they showed me how the transporter effect worked, it still felt like the real thing.
I’m said others will not get to join in on the fun after September 1.

32. Raktajino - August 7, 2008

What I find interesting is all the negative comments on the food. Granted, it’s not a 4 or 5 star Vegas restaurant destination but every single meal I had there in my 4 visits was quite good. It’s simple food, reasonably priced, and tasty. In fact, it’s the only consistent, decent meal I had over each of my 4 visits all over Vegas….especially for the price.

There are still a few weeks left and you can get some great deals I’m sure. Assuming that the Trekkies don’t destroy it this week – my behind-the-scenes guide said extra security was in place for them – you can still go. I go roundtrip air and hotel from Ohio to Vegas for 4 days/3 nights for $370. It’s VERY doable.

33. William Noetling - August 7, 2008

Had the pleasure of going to STTE three times, the first was a very memorable day for me for other reasons, but I enjoyed my time there. The second and third were way better, though the prices kept creeping up each subsequent time I would go back.

While I’m sad to see it go, it seemed to me to be dying from the first time I went.

I’m also sad they never really did any Star Trek gambling games. I would have loved to have played Dabo for real.

34. ScreenRant.com - August 7, 2008

I’d been to the Experience a couple of years ago and geeked out big time. I was going to take my wife last week since we happened to be in Vegas to catch it before it closed, but the week BEFORE that we attended the Star Trek Exhibition in San Diego.

The Exhibit was pretty much the same except the ride was lamer, but that didn’t justify the $45 price tag to attend the Vegas version.

Oh, and I got to sit in the original TOS Captain’s chair in a replica of the original bridge, which was friggin’ AWESOME. :-)

Vic

35. Mazzer - August 7, 2008

I did the Experience twice over the years. For me, the biggest thrill was just being on the Enterprise D bridge, which (as has been reported before) is actually more complete as a 360 degree set than the one that was used for filming.

36. tbk1701 - August 7, 2008

Oh we will miss you Star Trek the Experience. But instead of grief I will think of all my memories. Thank you for my picture where I am sitting in the captain’s chair. Thank you for my Romulan Ale. I still have it on top of my fridge. Thank you thank you thank you for warp core breaches. My favorite drink!!! But most of all thank you the good times I had there with friends, because the needs of the one do out way the needs of the many.

37. MORN SPEAKS - August 7, 2008

Never saw the Borg 4-D, I wish I could go for one last visit :(

38. Rick - August 7, 2008

Man how time flies!!! I went to the opening of the STE and I think I still have the poster somewhere in my stuff! Wonder what I could get on Ebay for it?;) I never have made it back since that time so I can’t rate the Borg part. But I really enjoyed what I did see at the opening overall. The beam up part and going to the Ent-D bridge was one of those cool geek experiences! The food at Quarks was pretty good for what it was. I do wish the Quark DS-9 section had been a bit bigger with a closer look to the DS-9 set. I recall being a touch disappointed about that. Still the cast milling about was fun and I enjoyed the props time line. Not much more I can ad, but thanks for the fun STAR TREK memories STE.

I really hope there is a new STAR TREK experience sometime with a more TOS style going on. But only time again will tell. Rickout.

39. ElrondL - August 7, 2008

Thank you for this terrific article, Anthony. We visited the Experience not long after it opened, and had a blast. I will never forget being “beamed” up, plus how realistic the bridge was. I still have a faded Quark’s Bar shirt that I can’t bear to part with! Sorry I couldn’t get back to say goodbye. :-( I’m optimistic that the new movie will bring the Experience back in a new venue with new energy.

“More human dogs than usual” . . . Love it!

40. AdamTrek - August 7, 2008

I went to Vegas with a couple of buddies back in 1999 and we visited the STTE. We went to see everything and we did. The museum display was very impressive. We rode the Klingon Encounter twice, and it was enjoyable both times. Very immersive in how it was done. The practical technology to allow the group to be transported aboard the Enterprise was pretty cool to experience, and a detailed explanation would be very neat to read. The bridge is very faithful and the actors truly do a great job in portraying the 24th century crew. The turbolift to the Grand Corridor was quite large, but hey, what do you expect. The shuttle simulation ride was fun.

We walked the promenade and I bought a white and black Star Trek henley shirt that I still have to this day and looks brand new because I don’t wear it that often.

That evening we ate a Quark’s and had an enjoyable dinner.

All in all, I’m glad I spent the money to do it, and now I’ll have to look at some of the photos I took of my experience. It’s sad to see it gone, but hopefully something could be done in the future. After all, there are several owned theme parks owned by Paramount throughout the U.S., right?

41. Anthony Thompson - August 7, 2008

Thanks, Anthony, for the review. I’m going for the first (and obviously last) time two weeks from today. It will also be my first visit to Las Vegas; the timing is not coincidental!

42. SpikedCanon - August 7, 2008

yes it all sounds good except for the “sulu toss”. What would his husband say?

43. Q - August 7, 2008

Sounds amazing…I wish I could go before it’s closed for good. Buu….

44. Izbot - August 7, 2008

9. Quarksbartender –

Don’t know if it was you but while on our honeymoon this past December my wife and I were in Quark’s Bar and a soccer game was playing on the TVs. As we were enjoying our ‘warp core breaches’ one of the two bartenders came around and said, “Hey, do you mind if we put on some Star Trek episodes or are you watching this?” We both laughed and said, “Yes, please!” and the newly Remastered “Space Seed” went into the DVD player.

My wife and I love hanging out in bars but this was the very first time a bartender turned off sports in favor of Star Trek — it’s now one of my favorite stories to tell about our honeymoon! Thanks to you and all the wonderful staff at Star Trek the Experience! You will be missed!

45. krikzil - August 7, 2008

My mom lives here in the Vegas area and I took her to dinner last night at Quarks. She loves the place. The food was excellent as always — the drinks are VERY strong and we were both drunk — and the staff friendly and great. I am so sad that it’s going away. I was lucky enough to come to the Experience opening night way back when and come to the con every year. It’s just not going to be the same without it.

46. trekker_in_ABQ - August 7, 2008

Hey! Picard clearly tells you to never “reveal what happened here today.”

For disrupting the time-space continuum, and jeopardizing ride profits, I’m gonna have to report you to Starfleet Command.

Otherwise, great article, thanks.

47. Denise de Arman - August 7, 2008

krikzil#45- I doubt there is any better bonding activity for a mother and daughter than getting drunk at the Experience whilst all manner of aliens mingle about and fellow con revelers down copious amounts of refreshing beverages with you.

48. Daniel Broadway - August 7, 2008

I think it would be good if they moved the Star Trek Experience to the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville Alabama. It has many many visitors each year, and there are lots of Trekkie’s living in that area, including me. :)

49. MikeyPikey - August 7, 2008

#42 , sulu toss? i wonder what it tastes like though, is it some sort of salad?

50. SpikedCanon - August 7, 2008

hmmm #49, I bet so. Makes me pucker up just thinking about it.

51. FSL - August 7, 2008

Went twice over the years. Sorta dreamed I could work there one day, just for fun. Was hoping I can go there again with my girlfriend. Always loved the actors and the staff, especially the Klingons.

Loved the guy at the shop pretending to be an android wearing a Data mask. The back stage tour was great. The guide took us to a door, and openned it while red alert sounds and lights and smoke came from inside that room. Hysterical ^^

Quark’s is great. Spent every afternoon there while I was in Vegas last time. Still have fond memories of the Warp Core Breach bubbling away for almost 45 minutes. And I brough a pack of Romulan ales back to HK =P

52. FSL - August 7, 2008

And will never forget the feeling of beaming in, and walking onto the bridge. It was just like I’m actually there and it’s all real. No matter how many time I go through it. It will always be my best memory.

53. Bones Thugs & McCoy - August 7, 2008

Tx Anthony for the write-up.

I agree that while STTE had its faults, the actors working there were ALWAYS terrific and never broke character. I remember shooting the bull with a Ferengi, a Klingon, an Andorian, a Romulan and a Sarek-esque Vulcan Ambassador. All really knew their background – I just hope they can all find other work!

54. Trekkie16 - August 7, 2008

I always looked forward to visiting STTE and Quarks when I went to Vegas for the convention. I like the food and I love their drink specials especially the Deanna Troi Chocolate Obession.

I’ve had a lot of good times with my friends in Quarks and I will miss it.

55. louis - August 7, 2008

Will items in the Star Trek store be put up for Clearance before they close? ANYBODY???

56. bman - August 7, 2008

They’re still doing the back stage tour? Cool! I’m going there the weekend of 8/23, and when I went online to buy tickets all they had listed were the ride tickets. How much is the back stage tour, btw?

And are the ride tickets still “all day” or single ride only?

57. Questor - August 7, 2008

I never took the backstage tour. I’ve always been impressed with the transporter effect. Now that they’re closing, can someone post how they carried out the effect? I’d much appreciate it.

Questor

58. Daoud - August 7, 2008

#40 Paramount sold out their parks business a while back to Cedar Point’s operating company Cedar Fair Entertainment.

But I think they still maintain contracts with other parts of Viacom giving them first pick among other CBS and Paramount properties for use in the parks. At least someone at Kings Island told me that they’d retain sort of a “favored nations” status.

But alas, that 90’s era of synergy for Viacom is dead now, so it wouldn’t be that easy to plop down ST:E somewhere else.

Of course, what a package deal if ST:E found a new home, and a rechristened ST: The Tour was run by the same people, utilizing the same props… now that would work. Just as long as they don’t get into the Conventions business.

59. Jackson Roykirk - August 7, 2008

I went only once, in 2000, and it was amazingly good. Didn’t have any food at Quarks, but did have several bright blue Romulan Ales. The Ferengi bartender and the Klingon strolling around were incredible. Completely believable, even up close. Totally in character. (Quarksbartender: were you working there back then?)

But I agree with Daoud: Hilton Las Vegas isn’t the best place for STTE. Especially now that Vegas has reverted to its Sin City roots after a brief experiment with the “Disneyland with gambling” concept. Paramount shoulld really associate Trek with Paramount. Not Vegas, not Hilton.

There’s a problem though. How would Paramount handle the original TOS props after Trek 2009 is released and becomes a smash hit? They would want to capitalize on the new cast, crew, and production design. But could they simply swap out all the ’60s props and costumes, replicas or not, with the new Trek 2009 items? I don’t think so.

So would the new STTE, if there is one, have both the ’60s era and ’00s era Trek props and uniforms on display? With photos of the TOS and 2009 crews? Same characters, different actors? I don’t think they could do that without pulling visitors out of the Trek world and back into the showbiz world.

60. John Pemble - August 7, 2008

I enjoyed Star Trek: The Experience three times. Never made it there after the Borg part was added and it looks like I’ll never see that. Good times there. It was a great place for Star Trek.

61. Orb of the Emissary - August 7, 2008

Of The Experience, I can only say this: Of all the theme parks I have encountered in my travels, this was the most… COOLEST, AWESOME, INCREDIBLE THEME PARK WITH A STAR TREK THEME!! I will miss The Experience and regret I couldn’t get in one more trip to Vegas to visit it before it shuts down.

62. bman - August 7, 2008

#57… the transporter effect.

You walk in and stand in front of fake doors leading to a fake simulator ride. At the appropriate time, the lights go out, fiberoptics provide a twinkling effect, and the walls are lifted out of place, opening up the larger transporter room set. You can feel the rush of air as the walls move. It was an unintended side effect, but they ultimately realized that the whoosh actually added to the effect, so they didn’ t worry about “fixing” it. I think there’s a ceiling or floor change too (like circular lights giving the impression of a transporter platform layout), but it’s been awhile.

63. Orb of the Emissary - August 7, 2008

#22- paustin

Same with me! I’ve been on The Klingon Encounter a few times, but never made it to the Borg Encounter. Sadness… :-(

64. Lore - August 7, 2008

Quirk’s Menu:

Uhura’s Chicken Legs
Kirk’s Ham Sandwich
Scotty’s Hagis
Mr. Spock’s Spinich Dip
Dr. McCoy’s ……….I’m a Dr. not a chef damnit…….Bread.
Archer’s Cheesy Sticks
Ta’Pol’s mouth watering Apple Pie.
Captain Janeway’s black coffee.
Capt Sisco’s Cajan cuisine.
Oddo’s mashed potatoes.
Warf’s prune juice.
Mr. Data’s ….it is………..IT IS GREEN.

65. 7 of 5 - August 7, 2008

My family and I went in 1999 before 4D. I had always vowed to get back to see that, but due to one illness after another we just never made it. No regrets; there is a lot more to life than Trek.
Both of my sons and my brother-in-law and his wife really enjoyed it in ’99 even though they are all non-trekkers.
Hopefully after the new movie overwhelms at the box office, Paramount/CBS will revive the Experience in an improved form for the new 21st century sensibilities of Trek.

66. Bill Cox - August 7, 2008

I hate to see it go, and I regret never getting the chance tio visit it, but Las Vegas is a long way away.

67. Bryan Lipps - August 7, 2008

Got married on the bridge of the Enterprise.Happiest day of my life.

68. Daniel Broadway - August 7, 2008

I’m going to the Star Trek Experience next week. I’m excited.

69. questor - August 7, 2008

Bman, thank you for posting that. I thought the effect was outstanding. The whoosh was a great distraction and you couldn’t hear them move, that’s for sure. The floor did change too. That also added to the effect. The closest I’ll ever come to being transported.

It’s ashame it’s closing down but I new it would inevitably happen.

Thanks again,

Questor

70. Gorn Captain - August 7, 2008

17. star trackie

The original Gorn mask and the tunic still exist, and have been auctioned off in recent years.

71. Michael Adams - August 7, 2008

I got to go and it was wonderful. The only thing that I thought was that I ordered a “James T. Kirk”, a long island Iced tea, that was blue, I thought that since it was blue and a strong drink they should have called it Romulan Ale. It was the best drink I had while in Vegas. Borg Invasion was really cool, but my favorite thing was being on the bridge of Big D. I could have stood there all day long looking at our bridge. The transporter effect was also super duper neato.

72. Beam Me Up - August 7, 2008

I remember that the rush of air kind of took me out of the “beaming up” thing. No one’s hair on any Trek show was blown around during beaming.

73. Michael Owen - August 7, 2008

I was lucky enough to visit the experience for the first time over Spring Break. Loved the Prominade and Quarks. Gotta hand it to you guys, you put on a great show. Standing on the bridge of the Enterprise D was a trip down memory lane.

74. Irishtrekkie - August 7, 2008

shame never got to go , grrrr………. and my brother asked me did i want to vist vegas with him in October this year , oh well i wont be going now , this really was my only reason for ever wanting to see vegas ,

i so hope they bring this somewhere else , if they do i will make sure to visit it for the opening . cr*p , i always wanted to get marryed on the bridge of the enterprise , what am i going to do now, but really i hope paramount does something with this and moves it somewhere else .

75. Aaron R. - August 7, 2008

The Experience is truly a wonderful deal… I wish only the best for the dedicated staff you spoke of… Living in Vegas I actually know one of the Klingons that work there and she is a great person who is sadly losing her job. I love the experience and agree with Anthony, it is time. I hope they create a new ride at another Vegas casino and massively update the ride… When they created BORG 4D a couple years ago there was a feeling that this was an attempt to madernize an already dated product. I thought the ride was good but it didn’t have the same awesomeness as the original Klingon ride. It was a good effort and overall a good run. One can only hope for what the future holds…

76. Refugee of Quark's - August 7, 2008

40. AdamTrek “the turbolift to the Grand Corridor was quite large, but hey, what do you expect.”

I looked at our Starfleet attired guide during that part and said ‘this must be the cargo turbolift’ and got a dirty look.

77. Jim Nightshade - August 7, 2008

Great article Anthony sir, thank you for having the best Trek Web site and the best reporting! You blow stupid Startrek.com outta the water…they are little more than advertisements….

I will miss the experience and honestly wont have much reason to go to vegas anymore…oh well cant afford it anyway.

They are still taking internet orders for the experience souvenirs up until aug. 15 at startrekexp.com…..but they are running out of lots of stuff fast. I doubt much will go on clearance….as their inventory isnt great…I tried to order a behind the scenes t shirt, a exp. keychain, some isoliner chip key chains etc…and all were out of stock already and i put my order in last month soon as I found out it was closing….

Sheri and I will be going aug 19 20 21 to vegas to say goodbye and see it all one last time and thank awesome employee actors like April for all their hard work and making star trek live for us all.

the staff at quarks, the stores, the actors are all fantastic and anthony was right is saying they make the experience a real experience….And we will be trying either a borg sphere or warp core breach when we are there so get ready for us quarks bartender, as I hear it will make us a bit drunk since we dont usually dreink much! We also want to meet Gerry and francine and hope they will be there….

I dont care if it isnt perfect and was a bit dated. It was still Star trek to me and the cast and crew made it live and more fun than any other place on this planet for this geeky star trek fan!

Hope all the employees and staff live long and prosper! We will miss you all more than we can ever let you know and we also owe you more for making it real….Those of you who never went….well if theres any way you can go…go now!

So is Star Trek the tour or exhibition or whatever it is or was, have they announced other cities yet or is that dead too?

JEFF

78. Todd - August 7, 2008

I was just there about 3 weeks ago, one last time. Boy those Warp Core Breaches are taaaaasty, mmmm! But when there’s 4 of you and a challenge is issued to pair up and see which 2 people can finish a whole Warp Core Beach before the other pair do… that really gets you into trouble!! :) What a great time tho. I will miss ST:TE.

PS – the Klingon Ride is definitely the better of the two, even if it is older than Bord 4D. :)

79. To Q - August 7, 2008

Well…All good things…. The time to say “goodbye” to Quark’s has come.
I never called it The Experience. Just “Quarks”.
I went to Quarks several times, as I am a consultant that works all over , including Las Vegas.

I went with friends a few times that put up with my wanting to go to Quarks.
When we got there, everyone changed their tune, were impressed ,and had fun, and great memories were created.

One awesome time was New Years eve 1999, where you there?
I went with one of my best friends Dawn. We had so much fun…
I thank everyone who has ever worked at “Quarks”. Let us hope it is recreated. I will meet you there and we will have a drink, toasting a new era in Star Trek!

80. Kendra Shaw Redux - August 8, 2008

I went to the experience 6 years ago, when I was 20. Of course, there isn’t much you can do in Vegas when you’re not 21 — unless you’re a Star Trek fan. RIP.

81. British Naval Dude - August 8, 2008

Don’t they blow up old, defunct real things in Vegas?

That’d be nigh on great ta’ see! Oh, I dunna mean ta’ sound cold as there be brilliant and interestin’ Trek stuff therein… I guess I enjoy tha’ idear o’ Viking funerals… like when ye’ shoot yer dead pal out in a torpedo…

82. Tanru - August 8, 2008

Living in Australia has meant that I have never been able to get to Las Vegas to see STTE. It was always on my list of things to do. I guess I’ll never be able to see it. I remember when they were building it – reading about it online and in the now defunct Official Australian Fan Club Magazine – seeing pictures of those fantastic looking models being made.

Oh well. Nice review.

Could you play Dabo there!?! DABO!! :D

83. subatoi - August 8, 2008

I visited there 4 years ago, and was impressed, of course.
But when you think about all the auctions, and the tons of historic props that could have been displayed in a bigger museum, it’s a shame. And I think it would be fair to write for each item, which is original and which is a replica.

84. Dave - August 8, 2008

I’ve been to the expierence 3 times and always enjoyed it. Shame it has to go. But like all things Trek – it seems the crowds just aren’t there for it. We went 2 weeks ago on a Saturday afternoon. There must have been like only 10 people in the Borg Theater. If more people went, it wouldn’t have to be so expensive. But they have to charge that much to pay for the cast members and to rent the space. The experience is very large. They could put a lot of slots in that space and make lots more money than the experience makes. Shame they couldn’t incorportate some Roulette wheels in Quark’s bar. Put some Dabo sound effects near by and have Dabo girls yell out Dabo every few spins. I’m sure there are gaming regulations for why that wasn’t done. I always thought Quarks was missing the Dabo. And the expierence could have made the Hilton some more $$$

85. molly - August 8, 2008

i was totally sad over the cost of just getting into the vendor area for the trek convention at the Hilton. I couldn’t afford to pay 70 bux for my daughter and myself, what would I use for spending money for souvenirs?
I hope now that the experience is closing there that it gets moved back to the Plaza where prices were more reasonable and locals that aren’t on vacation can enjoy the conventions and the attractions.

86. G-Boss - August 8, 2008

I really wish that I could have seen it.

87. DGill - August 8, 2008

I remember when I first hit ‘Star Trek: The Experience’. I was about 11 at the time, and I remember when it was still under construction (I can’t remember if I got there before the release date or if the release date itself was pushed back; I’m sure it was the latter). I was upset that it wasn’t finished yet, but I could still hear all of the drills and buzz saws from behind a series of panels that were obscuring the construction site. I came back a year later when ‘The Experience’ was in full swing, and boy was it worth the wait. I’ll tell ya, watching the spectacle of ‘Star Trek’ finally coming to life was one of the greatest moments of my life. The ride was great and my brother and I wound up going through it all over again the following morning. There was also a hilarious occurence on the first night of my stay when certain letters on the neon sign for ‘The Experience’ shorted out and said ‘Star Trek: The Expence”. :D

Of course, it’s been a while and I never got to see the new ‘Borg Invasion’ attraction, but I’m sure it was a doozy. I’m sure going to miss that place, but I think everyone should take comfort in the fact that it had a good run and it entertained so many fans over the years. In my eyes, it was better than going to Disneyland.

88. Wil - August 8, 2008

While I was with my girl friend in Vegas a few months ago I confessed to my girl friend I wanted to go. I just had to suck up the pride for something I have wanted to do sine I was a kid. That said, I thought the whole experience was pretty half-assed. I did really enjoy being transported onto the Enterprise. Alas, you only grace the bridge for a fleeting 30 seconds.

89. John in Canada, eh? - August 8, 2008

I had planned a trip to Vegas just as the Experience was scheduled to open, but unfortunately construction delays meant all I could see was a “Coming Soon” sign outside the hotel. I made up for it a few years later, though, by directing a segment for a Discovery Channel show there.

It was my first experience directing a camera crew on the road, and I couldn’t believe that my very first “professional” assignment was interviewing a Ferengi and a Klingon. The actors were great, and never once broke character despite 30-minute interviews.

Lest we forget, this project originated when The Next Generation was still on the air and was headed to the movies, DS9 was doing okay, and the future of the Trek franchise looked bright. The TNG setting was no doubt planned as that seemed most appealing to the general public. I’d bet that the next iteration of the Star Trek experience will return to a TOS timeframe, perhaps using the cast of the new flick (or with Sulu-Chekov cameos, perhaps).

At the end of the day, a 10-year run ain’t bad.

90. Kevin Hosey - August 8, 2008

Why are they closing it, especially now that the new film will be out next summer? I went twice before and was going to take my family this year.

First Universal Studios closes down the Back to the Future ride (for a Simpsons ride of all things!) — and now this.

It’s been a BAD year for classic sci-fi rides!!

91. Jim Nightshade - August 8, 2008

Someone in the other closure article mentioned that in their behind the scenes tour last week they mentioned they would be destroying the bridge sets as they are too big to store…..well that proves to me that they are not planning on moving it elsewhere….or they would somehow store them….they are too expensive to make from scratch again Im shure….

He Kevin I didnt know the back to the future ride closed. We went there about five years ago. I hadnt been to universal in 15 years before that. Loved that ride and star trek kinda copied its style….and the terminator 3d too…
I was mad when I was at universal cuz they just closed the et ride and I never got to see that and i love et….doubt i can ever get to florida though i would love to see disney world and universal.

I miss lots of rides at disneyland….the people movers….thru the tron tunnel….the skyride thru the matterhorn going to fantasyland….country bear jamorbee, america sings and before that carousel of progress….adventure thru inner space sponspered by monsanto hehehe anybody remember the 2nd episode of futurama on the moon amusement park?

I even miss the pirate ship that served fish and chips in fantasyland…. sigh….the swiss family robinson treehouse..screw tarzan heheh
But i dont miss michael jackson capt eo 3d hes too scary for real and 3d…and rumors say hilton will be replacing the experience with a michael jackson theatre….I already dislike him for selling all the beatles songs to target and luvs diapers…all you need is luvs..sigh….

92. SciFiMetalGirl - August 8, 2008

The Vegas area always has something “new” popping up all the time, and older attractions are replaced quickly. So for the STTE to have remained as viable as it has for 10 years now is really quite an acheivement! But with the competitive nature of the area, the eventual demise was inevitable, I suppose. Still, it was a nice place for people like us to be able to come and relax and be immersed in comfortable setting and converse and interact with other ST fans.

In short, there is no other place like it in the world! It will be greatly missed!

I plan on taking as many of my friends to it as I can get to go before its gone, and I’m hopeful to be there for the de-commissioning ceremony, since I was there for the Opening day, as well. Full circle.

93. Duane - August 8, 2008

I agree that the “whoosh” of air sort of takes you out of the beaming experience, but I’m not sure how they could have improved it. If there was a way to give you a very light spray of something that made your skin tickle, that might have been cool.

The “whoosh” of air would be better for a “Wil Decker merging with V’ger” sort of thing, but the “whoosing” would have needed to go on for quite a while.

Still, I loved the way they trick you before beaming you.

94. Sxottlan - August 9, 2008

Well, there goes my only reason for ever wanting to go to Las Vegas.

95. John in Canada, eh? - August 9, 2008

I actually enjoyed the whoosh of air while being “transported” — made me feel as if something “real” was happening, and not just a change of the set around me. If there wasn’t some physical discomfort, why would McCoy be so p*ssed while being beamed?

96. Charlie in Colorado - August 9, 2008

A first post from a long time lurker…

I’ve had the pleasure of visiting The STE six times. As much as I’d like to get back one last time, I don’t think it’s going to happen. I would tell all of you that if you have ANY chance of going before they close it down, Boldly Go.

As has been pointed out in many of the above posts, is that STE did need an overhaul. I won’t repeat what has already been said, there are many good points throughout this thread. I will throw another idea out there, though. As some famous guy who’s name escapes me at the moment once said, “Location! Location! Location!”

The LV Hilton is down on “the other side” of LV Boulevard, away from the “big” joints like New York New York, the Bellagio, etc. Even though the city’s new tramway does go down as far as the Hilton (in fact, the stop is just outside the doors of the STE), I wonder if that “remote” location didn’t end up hurting more than we realize.

There really isn’t much on that side of LV Boulevard to see tourist-wise, further down is the Sahara and the Stratosphere (with the roller coaster on top), and that’s pretty much it.

Anyway, I am saddened to see it go and I have lots of memories and pictures of my past visits. My (apparently) final visit took place in September of last year — did the backstage tour which was very interesting. Had a great chat with the tour guide afterwards, turned out he was the guy who wound up making most of the resin props used by the actors at STE. His passion for Trek, as well as that of the other actors and staff, was beyond question.

On my last trip through the Klingon Encounter ride, I threw out a great ad-lib as my group was leaving the transporter room. Dressed in my DS9/Nemesis uniform with captain’s pips, I turned around and said to the transporter technician, “Don’t worry, Lieutenant. Everything turns out all right in the morning…” He brilliantly kept a straight face while the rest of us, including the tour guide, were laughing as we made our way down the corridor en route to the turbolift. :-P

I will miss sitting down at Quark’s and immersing myself in the atmosphere of DS9 with those Warp Core Breaches. Hopefully STE will resurface again, hopefully in Vegas (which is a fantastic town), and hopefully bigger and badder than before.

97. Jim Nightshade - August 9, 2008

I also liked the air whoosh and felt it added to teh experience even though they tell you it was not intentional. The first time we went thru I was holding sheris hand when the light went out and teh whoosh hit she almost fell to the floor it freaked her out so much. Good thing she was holding onto my hand hahaha…..

Anyway as you are being BEAMED who knows what it feels like? Could feel like a rush of air as your molecules are disassembled and reassembled….I bet i would feel kinda light and airy when that happens ahahah

I hope everyone is right and they do move the attractions but when I hear the sets are being destroyed…those beautiful fantastic sets…I feel it is all over….and they just want to leave us with some hope….

98. SciFiMetalGirl - August 9, 2008

#96. Charlie in Colorado – First, welcome to de-lurking mode! Hopefully we will see much more from you now!

You bring up a good point about the location. Since the Hilton sits off of the Strip, it doesn’t receive as much pedestrian traffic. We will never know what things might be like now if ST:TE had been built at a casino that is actually on the Strip.

#91. Jim Nightshade – Wow, you sound like virtual expert on older attractions! Do you (or anyone?) happen to remember a Star Trek attraction that they had at Universal Studios tours where they picked several members from the audience to participate in the making of an episode? I was pretty young at the time, but I vaguely remember the Enterprise being attacked by some kind of big space octopus, and of course being extremely jealous that I hadn’t been picked!

99. Jim Nightshade - August 9, 2008

Yes Scifimetal Girl you are correct..It was an original series episode where they picked several members from the audience and had them act limited lines…that was even before the time before when I was at universal which was 20 years ago which was the last time except for five years ago…I think that most of have been maybe 25-28 years ago they had that one….the audience and set area for waterworld show now is where the star trek show was….my brothers and sis were little all 10-13 so it had to be not that long after the original series was off the air…70s something…

They had the chosen people go in costume and blue screen then splice it into the story and then they sold the copies of videocassette….Most of the dialogue was corny funny cheesy which was ok it was amusing to watch…I do remember the octopus thing too haha….now someone else in the other experience closure room i think has a link to a movie he made that they did in universal during the tmp and wrath of kang…now until I looked at that I had no idea they did a newer version of it. that one was better…

Yah back then the old universal didnt have many rides more sets and shows…I remember the store that had a lagoon with min. boats that battle and sink regularly…museums that dont exist anymoe etc. they had oversized props from land of the giants you could climb on….they had an original battlestar galactica attack on the tram etc..

100. David P - August 9, 2008

i would love an experience where the user attempts to solve the Kobayashi Maru problem, only to have the great James T Kirk appear at the end to scold the user!!

101. Captain Crawford - August 9, 2008

Why are they closing it down? I never got to go.

102. John_Sullivan - August 9, 2008

Never saw it, and I’ll die happy that I never did. Good riddance. Why do these guys want $45 for 2 “rides” that don’t even include a single legitimate warp jump or transporter transit? Thank God if this type of thing survives into the 23rd Century, no one will be using money by then.

Or, so they say.

Sounds like a total rip-off to me, from beginning to end.

The cost for me to get into the Smithsonian Exhibit in 1995? $0.00.

103. John_Sullivan - August 9, 2008

… er … 1992. Time flies.

104. Leanne Roberts - August 9, 2008

I am in Australia and am going to USA for holidays and arrive in Las Vegas on the 1st September which is a Monday.

Does anyone know if it as actually opened on September the 1st for business. If yes, I will definately go.

105. Kreg - August 10, 2008

Here at DefCon 16. Ran over the the Hilton for one last visit. Will definitely miss knowing STTE is here in Vegas.

106. Captain Robert April - August 10, 2008

One thing that always amused me about the museum exhibit, especially the runabout model, is the misplaced registry number on the nose. The reason it amuses me is that I made the exact same error in my runabout model.

In fact, I found myself doing a few double takes whenever I saw the thing to make sure it WASN’T my runabout model.

107. SciFiMetalGirl - August 10, 2008

#104. Leanne Roberts – Yes, they will be open that day, it will be their actual last day. But be prepared for some crowds everywhere around here that day, since it will be Labor Day weekend, which is a 3 day holiday here in the USA, the last big holiday of the summer.

#99. Jim Nightshade – Thanks for reminding me about the BSG attack on the tram! I had forgotten about that part! Yeah, they had a pretty cool laser battle, which was pretty sophisticated for the time. I seem to recall that they had some Centurions walking around as well.

Also, funny that you mentioned Land of the Giants… I happened to meet Celeste Yarnall (who played Chekov’s love interest in “The Apple”) at the VegasCon this weekend, and she mentioned that she played the part of Marna on Land of the Giants! She is a wonderful person to talk to, and I enjoyed meeting her a great deal! Very cool!

108. Glenn Hendrickson - August 10, 2008

Star Trek: The Experience was amazing! It is a shame that it has to go…

109. Rudy M Alapag Jr - August 10, 2008

A Star Trek Experience won’t be the same at all and the fun in the whole Las Vegas and Las Vegas Hilton itself won’t be as fun anymore…when they close down. i will miss the Borg i took a picture with and also the Ferengi i met too, i’ll never have the chance to say good-bye and “PROSPER AND LONG LIFE”. Will there be another one? No, i don’t think so. I don’t understand still why they’re closing down for. It’s been a great time and I can’t buy anything anymore. No more Star Trek Experience, no more Star Trek movies or series. I’m not too happy. What are they gonna have when they’re closing down?

110. Jeff - August 10, 2008

What a wonderful retrospective by Anthony. I’m writing a “farewell” magazine piece on the end of the Trek Experience. I’d love to hear from the following folks for a possible interview:

#104 Leanne if she still plans to go while visiting from Australia

#9 Quarksbartender – love to hear your stories working from behind the bar

…and anyone else who got married, met their future spouse, had a “make a wish foundation moment” or worked at the Trek experience
– Jeff
talltales88@yahoo.com

111. Andy C - August 11, 2008

My friend and I are flying over to Vegas all the way from England (a 14 hour flight!) to catch STTE before it closes, and will be there on September 1st ,which should give us just enough time to take a couple of rides!

It is a shame to see the Trekker’s Mecca close down; hopefully they’ll find it a new home and update it to include more TOS, Voyager and Enterprise props etc. With the new Trek movie out next summer, there’s got to be someone who thinks buying the Experience will be a good idea… Look at Doctor Who here in the UK. A decade or so hiatus and someone who loves the franchise behind it and it’s become nothing short of a behemoth!

112. Matt - August 11, 2008

I attended the Experience this last weekend, obviously to attend the convention, and was told an “un-official” bit of news. The Experience WILL live on!!! Paramount and “Knott’s Berry Farm” are already looking for another location and are collecting cast/crew member information so they can be brought in as quickly as possible. Nothing is being sold at auction and will be held onto for the new venue. Again, this is “un-official”, but exciting none-the-less!!!

113. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - August 11, 2008

This was my first visit to The Experience this last week. I’m sorry I didn’t go sooner. I completely bought the whole thing and enjoyed myself in the extreme. After going on the Klingon Encounter, my wife and I had our pictures taken on the bridge, which was fantastic as during our wait for the Borg show to end I got to give myself a complete and thorough self-guided tour of the D’s bridge for about 20 minutes. Total geekgasm.

And I wanted to get a message out to one of the performers:

Anita Bean (your name formerly when I knew you). We worked and played together on the Carnival cruise ship Jubilee an un-named number of years ago; you as a dancer and I as a saxophonist in the show band. I had the long hair back in those days. I recognized you pretty quickly, and I thought there was a glimmer of the same from you.

If anyone knows her, let her know I said hello from Spokane.

114. Chris M - August 12, 2008

I still think its a shame that Star Trek The Experience is closing. When me and my mate were in Las Vegas 3 1/2 years ago it was one of the highlights of Vegas for us. We went there every day. We bought souvenirs for ourselves and friends and family from the gift shop. We ate and drank at Quarks Bar and we went through the Museum and on the Borg 4-D Invasion ride. And we loved every minute of it. We were even lucky enough to ride the monorail advertising the 4-D Invasion. And while riding the monorail we managed to convinced a father and son to check it out. And they weren’t even Star Trek fans. I still have the receipts from the drink I ordered at Quarks Bar (a Bolian Sunrise as I recall) and the receipts from the gift shop as well. All of which I put into an album with a bunch of pictures I took. I feel privilaged and honoured to have been lucky enough to have experienced Star Trek The Experience. It is something I will always treasure! :)

115. Hi - August 12, 2008

They need to rebuild and reopen this at Universal Studios or somewhere else. Seriously, this was a gem, I’m sorry I never got a chance to experience it. Maybe open a new one in London?

116. M-5 - August 12, 2008

Raktajino – August 7, 2008

There are still a few weeks left and you can get some great deals I’m sure. Assuming that the Trekkies don’t destroy it this week – my behind-the-scenes guide said extra security was in place for them – you can still go.

I don’t know what you mean by Trekkies destroying STTE, because I just came back from the annual Vegas con and Trekkies were nothing but respectful and fun to be around.

The people at Creation arranged for some events at STTE including a party one night with stars from Trek and on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, there were huge lines waiting patiently to get into Quarks.

The place is awesome, especially if you’re a Trek fan. I can’t imagine going to a Vegas Star Trek convention and not seeing STTE there. STTE just adds to the whole convention experience.

One thing that Anthony didn’t mention I believe is that as you go down the steps leading to Quarks, there are some artists who draw caricatures for $25. You can have a seat and have the artist draw you. I had myself drawn as a starship captain with the Enterprise and the galaxy in the background and got a great laugh at the end result. All in good fun. And once again, the people standing on line to get into Quarks and watching the artist at work were fun to talk to and respectful.

If you go between now and September 1st though, be prepared to wait a little online to get into Quarks. I guess people want to go before it closes.

117. Biggshow - August 12, 2008

Trekmovie.com has been great about all this. Thank you, Anthony, and all your staff. As a former employee (I used to play Kralk, son of T’Nek), I really appreciate it and I know several of the actors you interviewed this weekend also appreciate the shout out.

The merchandise is going quickly. There is about a 10 x 10 area in the shops that was completely emptied when I left on Mon. Also, no more bottled Romulan Ale. Waah!

Thanks also to everyone who’s come and had a great time. As the actors said at the “Aliens Unmasked” panel Sun., we appreciate you as much as you seemed to enjoy us.

118. Jim Nightshade - August 12, 2008

#112 Matt I hope what you say is true. That means it will obviously still be in vegas….but I also heard that a guide to the behind the scenes tour said the sets of the bridges corridors etc are being destroyed because they are too big to store and move…..if that is true I cant seem them reopening it Those sets cost tons of money and would not be easy to rebuild….So I dunno what the real truth or truths is! If they did find a spot on the actual strip with a big saucer section sitting out over the strip that would attract tons of people all the time, like the harley davidson cafes giant motorcycle does. Oh I can dream!

I also agree Anthonys articles and forums are more interesting than any of the other forums ive visited..and people seem to care more here …Thanks Anthony!

I tried to order the behind teh scenes t shirt about the only one i dont have back in july on the internet when they announced they were closing and sadly they are out of stock of that and several other items I tried to order.
We will be in vegas aug 19, 20 and 21, and i doubt anything will be left by then…
I wish I was at the aliens unmasked party most have been a great tribute to the great actors and workers at the expereince….I heard it was filmed…wish i could watch or get a copy somehow….it must have been awesome….

I cant wait to see the expereince one more time in a week and say bye to the performers cast I love….they all deserve to be kept so I hope what you said about them getting all their names is true to hire them back….if what you said was true then they probably would not be destroying the bridge sets but would have to figure a way to move them….wheres scottys transporter when u need it…?

119. Mark - August 12, 2008

Please be aware that any ire you direct at Hilton, should be directed at THAT Hilton. It was purchased from the Hilton company a few years ago so it is not part of the global Hilton company.

STTE is the one and only reason I have gone to Vegas over a dozen times (for a week at a time) over the past 10 years. I even got married on the Enterprise Bridge. Once STTE is gone, there is no longer any reason for me to return to Las Vegas.

Oh, and LA would be a horrible place for it to go. Vegas has literally thousands of restaraunts, huge shopping malls and dozenz of other internationally renowned attractions (blue man group, several cirque du soleil shows, musicals and concerts, tasteful and not-so tasteful topless shows, etc) that would be of interest for the not-so-hard-core trekkies. All less than 15 minutes by tram. I brought some of my friends and family to Vegas for STTE and much of the time, they went to these other attractions. If it weren’t for these other diversions, they probably would not have come at all. LA simply cannot compete with Vegas in this respect. Vegas is “larger than life”. LA is “just life”.

120. Fabio D - August 13, 2008

I had no idea that STTE was closing down. My wife- of all people- noticed some of the display racks for sale and pointed it out to me. She’s not a Trekkie and told her she didn’t know what she was talking about. The place has been open for 10 years! I ate some Tribble after talking to the Photog who took us to the Borg chamber for my souvenir photo. He confirmed what we saw in the shop.

I loved both rides and confirm what the reviewer says. The staff we’re incredile and stayed in character throughout. I actually got chills when we stepped onto the bridge of the Enterprise D. Awesome feeling.

We were there the first week of August and am very happy to have been able to enjoy the experience.

121. Trek or Treat - August 13, 2008

I took the backstage tour a couple of days ago. Our tour guide said everything in the display cases of the museum is going back to Paramount. The rest of it, including the bridge set, and the giant starships hanging from the ceiling will be DESTROYED. He said it’s because there are too many entitities involved financially, and no single entity has the right to sell the stuff. Now that, my friends is a damn shame. I have been to the experience 6 or 7 times and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it.

STTE: RIP

122. STTE Always - August 13, 2008

Star Trek the Experience was one of the most unique theme and theater concepts ever conceived and its closing and possible destruction of the ships and set pieces are a cultural travesty.and will always be a Blithe on Las Vegas.

Sadly it was built at the end of the Vegas family era when the fun was geared for the middle class patron just like it was when “mob” ran Las Vegas
But the corporations have replaced the “mob” with high class greed and apparent respectability the new corporate model

Because STTE was based on the family model it must go, It a matter of economics and here is the proof why the contract between the Hilton & Cedar Fair that rents the space from the Hilton was not renewed On May 12, 2008, a foreclosure auction for Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch was canceled after an investment company, Colony Capital LLC, purchased the loan. Jackson was in default on the $24.5 million owed on the 2,500-acre property
Colony capital owns Resorts international that owns the LV Hilton
Talk about live long and prosper…

PS one final thought could Cedar Fair the present owner of STTE its, Colony Capital partner now purchase Neverland Ranch and move and rebuild STTE AND use Star Treks reputation to sanitize the social stigma surrounding Neverland and have Mr. Jackson works off his 24.5 mil debt in the space now occupied by Experience???

123. Jon B - August 14, 2008

I never got togo on it, but I would have loved too. I hope Paramount rebuilds it in the future. Goodbye STTE. :(

124. AJB - August 16, 2008

Well I have been 9 times every year since it opened. I have to say I am not a treky but I just loved the futuristic hang out. The interaction with actors that never broke character, and trust me I tried to make them in many ways, and how they each new their own language. Even with the awesome rides the biggest attraction was the WARP CORE BREACHES. Wow those things blew my dilithium crystals out every time. LOL Hate to see it go now I have to find a new haunt in vegas.

125. Jim Nightshade - August 17, 2008

I just went thru all my Star Trek the Experience t shirts I have….From the first black one the year it opened with the date, to one with the borg….my fave is a gray golf tee with the emblem and logo….also the psychodelic tie tied version…The only major one I am missing is the last one with the behind the scenes on the front and transporter on the back its even better with the lights on. I tried to order it online in july soon as I heard they were closing but I was too late. Does anyone know of any source of these shirts other than the experience??

I think I will be wearing my green one from a few years back or the golf shirt….when I go for the last times tues wed and thurs….I wonder if ANYTHING is left at the stores to get….and is quarks out of anything? Hmm mI will find out I guess…..

126. poplopez - August 24, 2008

I was just at the experience with my wife and kids and I got misty eyed. The experience was the first place we went when we came to Las Vegas on vacation and now that we live here I have gone there for the last time. The main store is closed and there are a lot of people there enjoying the last few days. If the Hilton is really closing this location down for good it is a big mistake with the new movie coming around the corner. We had a good time and I had my last warp core breach. My oldest son, 7 years old, experienced the rides for the first and last time. I hope its not gone forever.

127. bman - August 26, 2008

My friend and I made our last visit to the Experience over the weekend. It brought back memories of our first visit, at the grand opening “Warp-n-ride” fan appreciation event. What a bittersweet symmetry.

We did the rides on Friday, and took buttloads of pictures in the museum. That was my first time seeing Borg Invasion 4D, my most recent previous visit to the Experience having been in 2003. I enjoyed it, but it pales in comparison to the original Klingon Encounter. I still love that one to pieces.

Beverly Washburn was there outside Quark’s, signing autographs. She played Lt. Galway in TOS:”The Deadly Years”. What a sweet lady. And a nice unexpected surprise.

The shops were all curtained, except for the Admiral’s Collection. And they didn’t have much to offer. I picked up three pins (TNG, Voyager, and TNG-future communicators), a trio of shot glasses with the command, medical and science logos from TOS on them, a 2009 Ships of the Line calendar, and a phaser water pistol. I also got a commemorative drinking glass with the opening and closing dates of the Experience on it.

Then we had dinner at Quark’s and shared a Borg Sphere and a 5-ouncer James Tea Kirk.

We tried to get the Back Stage Tour on Friday, but they were booked. So we returned on Saturday for it. Our tour guide Jerad was absolutely fantastic. It was his last BST ever, and you could tell it was tough on him. Hell, it was tough on me and I’m an “outsider”. Jerad plays the Ferengi Quon (sp?) in the Experience. I’m sad that we didn’t get to see him in character.

After the BST, we went back to Quark’s and shared a final Warp Core Breach. The place was so busy, when I ordered food, the bartender said the kitchen is running about 40 minutes behind, which was about how long it would take to down the Breach, so it didn’t matter. We chatted with two groups of fellow fans who sat next to us, and drank a toast to the Experience. After about an hour, I finally asked about the food and the bartender said, “Food?” The guy never placed the order! I left the place furious and especially pissed off that that would be my last memory of the place. grrr!

Since then, a cooler head has prevailed and I know my lasting memory of the Experience will be Jerad’s back stage tour, and the obvious passion he had for the place and how much he seemed to love being a part of it.

I’ll truly miss it, and my hat is off to all the castmembers!

128. Jim Nightshade - August 26, 2008

Its great to hear you had a good time BMAN! Sheri and i were there tuesday and wednesday just before you guys…Where did you find the commemoritive glass with the first and last day on it? I was bugging the bartender at Quarks and he said they had no souvenir glasses left. I didnt see any at the store either. I also got the three shot glasses it was almost the only thing left…I liked the Laser on the Enterprise Dish in tribute…and the rides were great. And we tried and failed to drink a mini borg sphere but it was fun! We saw Beverly Washburn there too, two years ago during new years. We even got our pix taken with her and i talked to her about her classic Star Trek Blooper too! We loved her she was very nice! She also knew Walt Disney and was in old yeller and many other movies too including the first 50s superman tv show….Also the backstage tour was great and you got to go on the last one! Did you check out the wall of memories! I wish someone would put my tribute to the staff on the wall. There are so many just sitting there they will probably never see them.
I also say thanks to the cast and crew…They make THE EXPERIENCE what it is. THEY ALL ROCK. Wish I could be there for the last day and the decommisioning ceremony…Memories indeed. Damn I wish i had a commerative glass! Lucky you!
JEFF AND SHERI

129. bman - August 27, 2008

The glasses were for sale in the last open shop. There were tons of them, I’m surprised you missed them. (Unless they didn’t put them out until the end of the week?) Maybe startrekexp.com sells them. They’re full-size drinking glasses, clear with a blue tint. On the front is the ST:TE logo and on the back are the opening and closing dates.

They were also selling boxes of the Quark’s matches for $5. I almost got some, but I didn’t know what I’d ever do with them, lol.

LOL, funny you should mention the blooper. I told Beverly Washburn that her scene on the blooper reel is my favorite… “I feel like hell!” She remembered that day, and seemed flattered that I would remember her five seconds on the reel.

130. bman - August 27, 2008

Oh yeah, they were selling old Quark’s menus at the hostess stand for $10, too.

131. Jim Nightshade - August 27, 2008

Hey Bman I just found out those glasses were in the back and they just brought them out over the weekend and they were gone very fast…you didnt buy two or 3 extra to sell did ya? Danged thats just what I was looking for when we were there too. They for shure were not out when we were there….I did get a quarks ten year black and white menu for ten bucks…and one box of the matches..i am giving them away to smoking friends haha…..When I mentioned the Blooper to Beverly Washburn its also one of my faves she kinda sounded surprised I knew about it. HAHA Guess Im not the only one that mentioned that to her ! I also got some tos playing cards which are cool….and the last 3 romulan ale magnets…bottle openers…sigh sniff pout…danged that glass would have been an awesome addition to my collection …its pretty bad when I have tons more souvenirs than the stores do hahah

132. bman - August 28, 2008

Unfortunately, no. I only bought one. I’m really glad it didn’t break on the flight home now. When I bought the one, I assumed more would be available online. I read in another forum that someone looked at the glasses on Saturday morning, came back in the afternoon and they were sold out!

I didn’t buy a menu this time. I’ve got one of the original menus, when they were bigger and that DS9 bronzey color. I got Armin Shimerman to sign the cover. B)

133. Jim Nightshade - August 29, 2008

Yah Bman oh well….those menus are the trifold. They were selling them for 50 bucks. Too much for me. So I just got the black and white 10 year commerative one for ten bucks….a dollar a year sounds better….Well if anyone reading these has extras of the souvenir glasses or the behind the scenes t shirt in xl lemme know. thanks…

134. Tyrone Wicks - October 2, 2008

I will miss STTE. I’ve been a few times and enjoyed every one!!!!

135. Jim Nightshade - October 16, 2008

THE EXPERIENCE LIVES MAYBE!!! DEAL IN WORKS TO MOVE TO DOWNTOWN VEGAS! THANKS ANTHONY!!!

JERRY AND FRANCINE WHERE ARE YOU??????

136. Dreamer - October 28, 2010

This attraction is just screaming Orlando! Why not?!? Could you imagine? build it on international Drive near Uni and WDW. Seems a win, win scenario to me.

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