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	<title>Comments on: VegasCon 08: New Official Star Trek Fan Club Announced</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Ann Hefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Ann Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter was an original Trekee and had collected merchandise and
collectibles for many many years, going back to the original Star Trek
she had a enormous collections, of video&#039;s ,star logs, toys, games
you name it she probably had it, she passed away in 2005 and I
am needing some assistance in finding a collector that would
appreciate this collection as much as she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter was an original Trekee and had collected merchandise and<br />
collectibles for many many years, going back to the original Star Trek<br />
she had a enormous collections, of video&#8217;s ,star logs, toys, games<br />
you name it she probably had it, she passed away in 2005 and I<br />
am needing some assistance in finding a collector that would<br />
appreciate this collection as much as she did.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  LOOKING SEE THE  NEW FLMS ON STAR TREK NO 11 OUT MAY 2009.

               David         

      Star Trek fan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  LOOKING SEE THE  NEW FLMS ON STAR TREK NO 11 OUT MAY 2009.</p>
<p>               David         </p>
<p>      Star Trek fan</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Nemecek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Nemecek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Izbot--

Umm, we&#039;re on the same side of the fence here! Go back and look at many of the ST Comm. magazine interviews we did with actors, writers, etc. the last 2-3 years. We got to where we tried to get the personal pics for diversity. Photoshoots for each interview are not only expensive, but were impractical many times--but we could also fold in either personal pics, or exclusive &quot;civillian&quot; glam shots, etc. We got to where we insisted on it  if at all possible. But the days of the REALLY old Starlog &quot;official mags&quot; with stale canned set shots over and over were already long dead.

As for newsstand sales--this actually extended the range of Trek for lay fans. Insiders yes would prefer a membership/subscription with perks, but overall it greatly expanded Trek&#039;s reach once we got to Walmarts and Barnes &amp; Nobles.

And yes, value added perks--always the ideal;  reality finances intruded otherwise. A new club model would and will try again on that front.

And the ST: Off. Magazine? Yes, those were expensive, but were the long-sought US market entry promised that amortized the cost of that material (art/tech, not the news bits) that was really done first for the UK&#039;s Official Fact Files partwork weekly magazine seen worldwide EXCEPT in the US. That&#039;s why the STOM ended after 4 yrs--the techie, already done material was used up. That would have been double the per-issue copy (or more) had it started up from scratch as it did; never had enough subs to sustain that level further anyway. Sad but true.</description>
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<p>Umm, we&#8217;re on the same side of the fence here! Go back and look at many of the ST Comm. magazine interviews we did with actors, writers, etc. the last 2-3 years. We got to where we tried to get the personal pics for diversity. Photoshoots for each interview are not only expensive, but were impractical many times&#8211;but we could also fold in either personal pics, or exclusive &#8220;civillian&#8221; glam shots, etc. We got to where we insisted on it  if at all possible. But the days of the REALLY old Starlog &#8220;official mags&#8221; with stale canned set shots over and over were already long dead.</p>
<p>As for newsstand sales&#8211;this actually extended the range of Trek for lay fans. Insiders yes would prefer a membership/subscription with perks, but overall it greatly expanded Trek&#8217;s reach once we got to Walmarts and Barnes &amp; Nobles.</p>
<p>And yes, value added perks&#8211;always the ideal;  reality finances intruded otherwise. A new club model would and will try again on that front.</p>
<p>And the ST: Off. Magazine? Yes, those were expensive, but were the long-sought US market entry promised that amortized the cost of that material (art/tech, not the news bits) that was really done first for the UK&#8217;s Official Fact Files partwork weekly magazine seen worldwide EXCEPT in the US. That&#8217;s why the STOM ended after 4 yrs&#8211;the techie, already done material was used up. That would have been double the per-issue copy (or more) had it started up from scratch as it did; never had enough subs to sustain that level further anyway. Sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: Izbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and another thing! With the overwhelming deluge of Star Trek material and merchandise out there it would be really, really nice to have something (like those proposed semi-annual exclusive fan club magazines or whatever) that was rare and not easy to come by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and another thing! With the overwhelming deluge of Star Trek material and merchandise out there it would be really, really nice to have something (like those proposed semi-annual exclusive fan club magazines or whatever) that was rare and not easy to come by.</p>
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		<title>By: Izbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33. Larry Nemecek 

RE: &quot;online-driven, with an annual or semi-annual in print .&quot;

First off, thanks for joining us and providing the info! My thoughts are that what you are suggesting (mostly online content with some exclusive semi-annually published material) sounds like a reasonable deal -- as long as those semi-annually published magazines, etc were *fan club exclusives* and not available on newsstands, comic shops or bookstores. I quit subscribing to the former fan club because I could always (since at least 1988) pick up the magazine at my local comic shop. I didn&#039;t see getting a fan club patch as much of an incentive. 

If the club is resurrected it should strive to be something exclusive -- for the real die-hards. Otherwise it&#039;s no different than any other magazine out there. As for printed content, I *loved* Star Trek: The Magazine that was around during the late late 90s and early 2000s. The book&#039;s design was awful but the content -- all of it -- was sublime! If the new club offered sporatically-published book or magazine premiums in this vein I&#039;d be all over it!

#31. John_Sullivan brought up the possibility (facetiously I hope?) of &#039;nude or semi-nude pictures of the actresses&#039; which is a bit brazen but it got me thinking -- one thing I always disliked about most Trek actor interviews was the fact that the accompanying photos were mostly just their Trek-oriented publicity stills. It always gave the impression that a Trek interview (for Starlog, Communicator, ST: The Magazine, etc) was kinda less important than a &quot;real&quot; interview with, say, Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide or any number of other non-Trek publication. Could it hurt to assign a real photographer to do a photoshoot with that actor to accompany said interview? If it is to be an exclusive fan club it&#039;s members should expect and receive exclusive incentives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33. Larry Nemecek </p>
<p>RE: &#8220;online-driven, with an annual or semi-annual in print .&#8221;</p>
<p>First off, thanks for joining us and providing the info! My thoughts are that what you are suggesting (mostly online content with some exclusive semi-annually published material) sounds like a reasonable deal &#8212; as long as those semi-annually published magazines, etc were *fan club exclusives* and not available on newsstands, comic shops or bookstores. I quit subscribing to the former fan club because I could always (since at least 1988) pick up the magazine at my local comic shop. I didn&#8217;t see getting a fan club patch as much of an incentive. </p>
<p>If the club is resurrected it should strive to be something exclusive &#8212; for the real die-hards. Otherwise it&#8217;s no different than any other magazine out there. As for printed content, I *loved* Star Trek: The Magazine that was around during the late late 90s and early 2000s. The book&#8217;s design was awful but the content &#8212; all of it &#8212; was sublime! If the new club offered sporatically-published book or magazine premiums in this vein I&#8217;d be all over it!</p>
<p>#31. John_Sullivan brought up the possibility (facetiously I hope?) of &#8216;nude or semi-nude pictures of the actresses&#8217; which is a bit brazen but it got me thinking &#8212; one thing I always disliked about most Trek actor interviews was the fact that the accompanying photos were mostly just their Trek-oriented publicity stills. It always gave the impression that a Trek interview (for Starlog, Communicator, ST: The Magazine, etc) was kinda less important than a &#8220;real&#8221; interview with, say, Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide or any number of other non-Trek publication. Could it hurt to assign a real photographer to do a photoshoot with that actor to accompany said interview? If it is to be an exclusive fan club it&#8217;s members should expect and receive exclusive incentives.</p>
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		<title>By: Izbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the days of Official Fan Clubs are long gone by now. What can they offer &#039;members&#039; that they can&#039;t get online or in a magazine, etc? What prestige comes with being a *card-carrying member* of the *official* fan club? Can you imagine someone standing up at a con during a Q &amp; A and saying, &quot;Yes, question for Mr. Nimoy. My name is Izbot and I&#039;m a member of The Official Star Trek Fan Club (so my question is very scholarly and important)...&quot;. 

I just don&#039;t see the point in it. There already is an &#039;official&#039; (CBS-Paramount approved) Star Trek Magazine -- and much of its&#039; news is already very old by the time of publication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the days of Official Fan Clubs are long gone by now. What can they offer &#8216;members&#8217; that they can&#8217;t get online or in a magazine, etc? What prestige comes with being a *card-carrying member* of the *official* fan club? Can you imagine someone standing up at a con during a Q &amp; A and saying, &#8220;Yes, question for Mr. Nimoy. My name is Izbot and I&#8217;m a member of The Official Star Trek Fan Club (so my question is very scholarly and important)&#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see the point in it. There already is an &#8216;official&#8217; (CBS-Paramount approved) Star Trek Magazine &#8212; and much of its&#8217; news is already very old by the time of publication.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Nemecek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Nemecek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&gt;

@28--You are absolutely right on both counts. That&#039;s why, since @ 2002, we were screaming to get online with a Fan Club/Communicator component (limited only by Decipher&#039;s situation), and why our new club model pitches since 2005 were online-driven, with an annual or semi-annual in print . Truth is, web IS best for news and same-ol same-ol interviews... but there are SOME &quot;Keeper&quot; items you want on the shelf, on paper: blueprints, large art specs, large photos, memorial pieces, etc. It should be driven by a &quot;best of (today&#039;s) both worlds&quot; proposition.

Sadly, the coming of digital cameras, and laxness around the set--and great Viacom licensing savvy-- let us do a lot more in the in-depth vein the last 2-3 years of Communicator--only to have it all cut off thanks to Decipher&#039;s game industry demise, followed by the flux of the &quot;Viacom divorce&quot; that changed so much re: Trek. But there&#039;s still plenty of Star Trek old and new that&#039;s never seen the light of day or been talked about.

As for now? Let&#039;s see what&#039;s out there ...</description>
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<p>@28&#8211;You are absolutely right on both counts. That&#8217;s why, since @ 2002, we were screaming to get online with a Fan Club/Communicator component (limited only by Decipher&#8217;s situation), and why our new club model pitches since 2005 were online-driven, with an annual or semi-annual in print . Truth is, web IS best for news and same-ol same-ol interviews&#8230; but there are SOME &#8220;Keeper&#8221; items you want on the shelf, on paper: blueprints, large art specs, large photos, memorial pieces, etc. It should be driven by a &#8220;best of (today&#8217;s) both worlds&#8221; proposition.</p>
<p>Sadly, the coming of digital cameras, and laxness around the set&#8211;and great Viacom licensing savvy&#8211; let us do a lot more in the in-depth vein the last 2-3 years of Communicator&#8211;only to have it all cut off thanks to Decipher&#8217;s game industry demise, followed by the flux of the &#8220;Viacom divorce&#8221; that changed so much re: Trek. But there&#8217;s still plenty of Star Trek old and new that&#8217;s never seen the light of day or been talked about.</p>
<p>As for now? Let&#8217;s see what&#8217;s out there &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trevorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31: I hope dearly that nobody asks for it.</description>
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		<title>By: John_Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A new kind of fan club - looking for your input.&quot;

This response is from the guy who LOVES Dan Madsen to death and thinks Star Trek would have been much better from the get-go if Eugene W. and not Gene would have invented Star Trek. Well, I&#039;m a realist ... I don&#039;t even think EWR was born when Star Trek first aired ... but Eugene seems to really have a concise and complete understanding of what makes the show so great, without all of those diversions into &quot;the human condition&quot; as if we&#039;re really all that close to Daddy&#039;s unrealistic utopian vision of humanity that borders or crosses the border into a genuine religion.

I am one of the few fans that waived the &quot;refunds&quot; due members when Decipher&#039;s &quot;Star Trek Fan Club&quot; ran into trouble. Said to keep the &quot;dues&quot; as a tip for how much I appreciated the magazines received before the club folded with unpublished but paid-for issues.

Now, as to what the fans want: ...

at least this one ...

1) Publish nude or semi-nude pictures of the actresses. I was always a little disappointed that we would have to go off-campus to buy FMH or Maxiuum to see Linda Park or Jolene half-naked. If the actresses want to make a name for themselves to further their careers, let&#039;s keep them on the home team.

2) Don&#039;t publish merchandise by and for young fans who have obviously never been on a real date. An example is in a related story where there was a gypsy table set up by some man who obviously has never been on a date trying to sell overpriced merchandise to young geeks who will probably never be on a date.  Gamers need to find a new game, if you know what I mean. Humanity can use the increased population on Earth resulting from their decision to boldly go where no Star Trek zealot has gone before ... especially as in the future the Klingon and Romulan boys and girls won&#039;t be underpopulated because the males have wasted their lives in fantasy games.

3) Get a little inventive. For instance, get Paris Hilton on board to sit in a lawn chair half-naked to discuss the brilliance of how matter and antimatter can solve the energy crisis.

4) Hire inventive writers. My resume will be on the way as soon as anyone asks for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A new kind of fan club &#8211; looking for your input.&#8221;</p>
<p>This response is from the guy who LOVES Dan Madsen to death and thinks Star Trek would have been much better from the get-go if Eugene W. and not Gene would have invented Star Trek. Well, I&#8217;m a realist &#8230; I don&#8217;t even think EWR was born when Star Trek first aired &#8230; but Eugene seems to really have a concise and complete understanding of what makes the show so great, without all of those diversions into &#8220;the human condition&#8221; as if we&#8217;re really all that close to Daddy&#8217;s unrealistic utopian vision of humanity that borders or crosses the border into a genuine religion.</p>
<p>I am one of the few fans that waived the &#8220;refunds&#8221; due members when Decipher&#8217;s &#8220;Star Trek Fan Club&#8221; ran into trouble. Said to keep the &#8220;dues&#8221; as a tip for how much I appreciated the magazines received before the club folded with unpublished but paid-for issues.</p>
<p>Now, as to what the fans want: &#8230;</p>
<p>at least this one &#8230;</p>
<p>1) Publish nude or semi-nude pictures of the actresses. I was always a little disappointed that we would have to go off-campus to buy FMH or Maxiuum to see Linda Park or Jolene half-naked. If the actresses want to make a name for themselves to further their careers, let&#8217;s keep them on the home team.</p>
<p>2) Don&#8217;t publish merchandise by and for young fans who have obviously never been on a real date. An example is in a related story where there was a gypsy table set up by some man who obviously has never been on a date trying to sell overpriced merchandise to young geeks who will probably never be on a date.  Gamers need to find a new game, if you know what I mean. Humanity can use the increased population on Earth resulting from their decision to boldly go where no Star Trek zealot has gone before &#8230; especially as in the future the Klingon and Romulan boys and girls won&#8217;t be underpopulated because the males have wasted their lives in fantasy games.</p>
<p>3) Get a little inventive. For instance, get Paris Hilton on board to sit in a lawn chair half-naked to discuss the brilliance of how matter and antimatter can solve the energy crisis.</p>
<p>4) Hire inventive writers. My resume will be on the way as soon as anyone asks for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss the old fan club and the magazine.  There was something about the official fan club and rag being run by the fans themselves, with the assistance of the production staff from the shows and movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss the old fan club and the magazine.  There was something about the official fan club and rag being run by the fans themselves, with the assistance of the production staff from the shows and movies.</p>
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