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	<title>Comments on: Chris Pine: I didn&#8217;t go to Shatner-ville</title>
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		<title>By: Kahrahkon</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/08/12/chris-pine-i-didnt-go-to-shatner-ville/comment-page-5/#comment-955547</link>
		<dc:creator>Kahrahkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you all have to get beyond the Kirk parodie thing.

Capt Kirk was about ... more than .... dramatic ..... pauses.

He was about giving computers nervous breakdowns and being a horn dog.

Supremely self confident and even arrogant. 

There&#039;s quite a lot of info on Kirks character in case you parodie ppl didn&#039;t notice.

Personally, I would be very dissapointed if the new Kirk does not stay true to the character we all know so well.

I will also be very dissapointed if he DOES NOT do a dramatic pause.

Just put it where it belongs, in a dramatic and inspiring speach .

&quot;THAT&quot;S... why we&#039;re ABOARD ... her&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you all have to get beyond the Kirk parodie thing.</p>
<p>Capt Kirk was about &#8230; more than &#8230;. dramatic &#8230;.. pauses.</p>
<p>He was about giving computers nervous breakdowns and being a horn dog.</p>
<p>Supremely self confident and even arrogant. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s quite a lot of info on Kirks character in case you parodie ppl didn&#8217;t notice.</p>
<p>Personally, I would be very dissapointed if the new Kirk does not stay true to the character we all know so well.</p>
<p>I will also be very dissapointed if he DOES NOT do a dramatic pause.</p>
<p>Just put it where it belongs, in a dramatic and inspiring speach .</p>
<p>&#8220;THAT&#8221;S&#8230; why we&#8217;re ABOARD &#8230; her&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>205

&quot;The real question is, did Abrams bring in any martial arts instructors who are familiar with the art of Kirk-fu (lol)? &quot;

Aye...now yer&#039; talkin&#039;!</description>
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<p>&#8220;The real question is, did Abrams bring in any martial arts instructors who are familiar with the art of Kirk-fu (lol)? &#8221;</p>
<p>Aye&#8230;now yer&#8217; talkin&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Iowagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iowagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#206

Thanks Katie, the same to you.</description>
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<p>Thanks Katie, the same to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#204. Iowagirl 

Thanks.  Glad we&#039;re okay.

Have a great week!

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#204. Iowagirl </p>
<p>Thanks.  Glad we&#8217;re okay.</p>
<p>Have a great week!</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#200---&quot;I’ve come to believe that diminishing and discounting my views is the same as discounting others opinions too. I think my deep affection and vision of things is just as important as the group buying Hanna Montana tickets or younger.&quot;

Andy, in looking back at it, I have come to believe that the wording of my last post may have progressed to the point of being a bit harsh toward the end. In the interest of being absolutely clear, I do not propose that our opinions will be completely irrelevant to the future of the franchise, but that our own sense of importance to it is often somewhat exaggerated.
What I mean is, when someone implies to me that Pine&#039;s performance as Kirk will be somehow &quot;illegitimate&quot; if he does not conform to the same dialogue delivery style or physical mannerisms of his predecessor, it prompts me to put that into the perspective of anticipating how that portrayal will play to different types of viewers (demographics, if you will).

 I find it difficult to believe that younger viewers and those who may have never before given Star Trek a chance (a major portion of the production team&#039;s stated target audience) will scrutinize this interpretation of JTK in the same manner as someone who has been with the franchise since its beginning or the early years of syndication. I find it unlikely because it is more than reasonable, IMO, to conclude that a major portion of that new audience has never even seen JTK portrayed by Mr. Shatner.

I think that what is most important is that the chief characteristics of JTK-the hero remain intact with Pine&#039;s portrayal. For example, I think he should be a natural leader who is always firmly in charge of any room he enters, rather smooth with the ladies, loyal to his friends, confident (bordering on total arrogance), and as willing to solve problems with his fists (or even a phaser) as he is with his mind. I also believe he should be at his best only when he is the beneficiary of the tempering counsel given by Spock and Bones.

With that said, I also think we must remember that this JTK has not yet fully evolved into the Captain/Admiral/Captain we have thus far seen on screen. Much of Pine&#039;s portrayal will likely be of a less mature Kirk, and one who has not yet developed those tempering relationships I described before. In any case, I look forward to seeing the evolution of our hero on screen.

The real question is, did Abrams bring in any martial arts instructors who are familiar with the art of Kirk-fu (lol)? If I desire any nostalgic nod to Shatner at all in Pine&#039;s portrayal, it is the trusted double-fist strike to the body!!! J/K...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#200&#8212;&#8221;I’ve come to believe that diminishing and discounting my views is the same as discounting others opinions too. I think my deep affection and vision of things is just as important as the group buying Hanna Montana tickets or younger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Andy, in looking back at it, I have come to believe that the wording of my last post may have progressed to the point of being a bit harsh toward the end. In the interest of being absolutely clear, I do not propose that our opinions will be completely irrelevant to the future of the franchise, but that our own sense of importance to it is often somewhat exaggerated.<br />
What I mean is, when someone implies to me that Pine&#8217;s performance as Kirk will be somehow &#8220;illegitimate&#8221; if he does not conform to the same dialogue delivery style or physical mannerisms of his predecessor, it prompts me to put that into the perspective of anticipating how that portrayal will play to different types of viewers (demographics, if you will).</p>
<p> I find it difficult to believe that younger viewers and those who may have never before given Star Trek a chance (a major portion of the production team&#8217;s stated target audience) will scrutinize this interpretation of JTK in the same manner as someone who has been with the franchise since its beginning or the early years of syndication. I find it unlikely because it is more than reasonable, IMO, to conclude that a major portion of that new audience has never even seen JTK portrayed by Mr. Shatner.</p>
<p>I think that what is most important is that the chief characteristics of JTK-the hero remain intact with Pine&#8217;s portrayal. For example, I think he should be a natural leader who is always firmly in charge of any room he enters, rather smooth with the ladies, loyal to his friends, confident (bordering on total arrogance), and as willing to solve problems with his fists (or even a phaser) as he is with his mind. I also believe he should be at his best only when he is the beneficiary of the tempering counsel given by Spock and Bones.</p>
<p>With that said, I also think we must remember that this JTK has not yet fully evolved into the Captain/Admiral/Captain we have thus far seen on screen. Much of Pine&#8217;s portrayal will likely be of a less mature Kirk, and one who has not yet developed those tempering relationships I described before. In any case, I look forward to seeing the evolution of our hero on screen.</p>
<p>The real question is, did Abrams bring in any martial arts instructors who are familiar with the art of Kirk-fu (lol)? If I desire any nostalgic nod to Shatner at all in Pine&#8217;s portrayal, it is the trusted double-fist strike to the body!!! J/K&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Iowagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iowagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#202

Katie, my usage of the word &quot;aimed&quot; was just due to my imperfect knowledge of the English language. Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for pointing out that your post wasn&#039;t meant as an attack. I would like to stress that I do consider “fascinating” a compliment - thanks for that!</description>
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<p>Katie, my usage of the word &#8220;aimed&#8221; was just due to my imperfect knowledge of the English language. Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for pointing out that your post wasn&#8217;t meant as an attack. I would like to stress that I do consider “fascinating” a compliment &#8211; thanks for that!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie, that would eliminate half this crowd!*

*(making them...............................c&#039;mon, you can do it!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie, that would eliminate half this crowd!*</p>
<p>*(making them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.c&#8217;mon, you can do it!)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#196. Iowagirl

&quot;Just in case your “fascinating” was aimed at my post: Thank you for this extraordinary compliment. ;) &quot;

Sorry, I forgot to put your post # and name as I usually try to do.  Yes, it was &quot;addressed&quot; to you as a neutral comment  - -   not &quot;aimed&quot; at you as an attack.  (Just wanted you to know...)  I was trying to be clever.  Guess I should leave that to those who are witty.

kg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#196. Iowagirl</p>
<p>&#8220;Just in case your “fascinating” was aimed at my post: Thank you for this extraordinary compliment. ;) &#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, I forgot to put your post # and name as I usually try to do.  Yes, it was &#8220;addressed&#8221; to you as a neutral comment  &#8211; -   not &#8220;aimed&#8221; at you as an attack.  (Just wanted you to know&#8230;)  I was trying to be clever.  Guess I should leave that to those who are witty.</p>
<p>kg</p>
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		<title>By: Pan Always Bored Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pan Always Bored Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closettrekker,
 You have opened my eyes with your post. I am an &quot;original&quot; Trek fan growing up with the syndication in the 70&#039;s. I&#039;ve honestly never considered the fact that I have felt &quot;entitled&quot; to Trek the way I want it to be. I&#039;ve always had a preconceived notion about the characters and the way they should be played.

 In my world, an always 33 year old Shatner would be kicking alien ass and saving the Federation from miscreants and scofflaws.

 Let&#039;s face it...a new take on the character is required. Bring on Mr. Abrams,Orci,Kurtzman et al.

 Thank you for your efforts and love for bringing such an iconic franchise back to life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closettrekker,<br />
 You have opened my eyes with your post. I am an &#8220;original&#8221; Trek fan growing up with the syndication in the 70&#8217;s. I&#8217;ve honestly never considered the fact that I have felt &#8220;entitled&#8221; to Trek the way I want it to be. I&#8217;ve always had a preconceived notion about the characters and the way they should be played.</p>
<p> In my world, an always 33 year old Shatner would be kicking alien ass and saving the Federation from miscreants and scofflaws.</p>
<p> Let&#8217;s face it&#8230;a new take on the character is required. Bring on Mr. Abrams,Orci,Kurtzman et al.</p>
<p> Thank you for your efforts and love for bringing such an iconic franchise back to life!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>199

&quot;Those of us who have long been established fans of TOS-era Star Trek often have an exaggerated sense of our importance to the future of the franchise.&quot;

After having been on this world a few years, and after years of apologizing for my likes and dislikes and sensibilities; I&#039;ve come to believe that diminishing and discounting my views is the same as discounting others opinions too.  I think my deep affection and vision of things is just as important as the group buying Hanna Montana tickets or younger.   I also think younger generations are smart enough to know when an obvious nod is being given in a performance.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Those of us who have long been established fans of TOS-era Star Trek often have an exaggerated sense of our importance to the future of the franchise.&#8221;</p>
<p>After having been on this world a few years, and after years of apologizing for my likes and dislikes and sensibilities; I&#8217;ve come to believe that diminishing and discounting my views is the same as discounting others opinions too.  I think my deep affection and vision of things is just as important as the group buying Hanna Montana tickets or younger.   I also think younger generations are smart enough to know when an obvious nod is being given in a performance.</p>
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