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	<title>Comments on: Book Excerpt: Star Trek Destiny Gods of Night</title>
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		<title>By: George Kirk</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/08/19/excerpt-star-trek-destiny-gods-of-night/comment-page-1/#comment-4395241</link>
		<dc:creator>George Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ezri TinkerTrill as a Captain? No thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezri TinkerTrill as a Captain? No thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Hobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just Ensign to Captain in six years that&#039;s the only odd thing here.  It&#039;s also that, usually, a new Captain is given a &quot;starter ship&quot; first, one of the less smaller, older, less prestigious vessels, Miranda class and so forth.

Apparently, the Aventine is Starfleet&#039;s most advanced, top of the line starship, equipped with a quantum slipstream drive and enough weaponry to hold off a Borg cube.

There are experienced Captains who have proven their worth over decades who could be transferred from smaller, older, less prestigious ship to the Aventine.  Some of those, no doubt, have been on a command track for their entire lives, and may also be graduates of Starfleet&#039;s Advanced Tactical Training Command School.

For example, if Captain Jones has commanded a Miranda class for ten years, and then an Ambassador class for the next ten years, it makes more sense to transfer him over to command the Aventine.

It rather stretches credulity that Ezri, who&#039;s training wasn&#039;t Command to begin with, would be given such a prestigious ship over those other officers.

As for Picard&#039;s battlefield commission, it should be noted that the first Constellation class ship was commissioned in 2285.  When Picard took command of the Stargazer, it was 2333, by which time that class of ship was a full forty-eight years old.  Picard didn&#039;t take command of the brand new, prestigious, Galaxy class until 2364, after a full thirty-one years of command service.  That&#039;s the kind of experience that&#039;s required to command a top of the line ship.  (And no, Trill&#039;s don&#039;t get a free pass to the top of the list.  They have to earn it just like everyone else.)

Then again, the publishers do want to utilize the main characters from the series&#039;, each of which is a recognizable &quot;name brand&quot; to capture a reader&#039;s attention.  So Ezri&#039;s command has more to do with that, I suspect, than any sensible logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just Ensign to Captain in six years that&#8217;s the only odd thing here.  It&#8217;s also that, usually, a new Captain is given a &#8220;starter ship&#8221; first, one of the less smaller, older, less prestigious vessels, Miranda class and so forth.</p>
<p>Apparently, the Aventine is Starfleet&#8217;s most advanced, top of the line starship, equipped with a quantum slipstream drive and enough weaponry to hold off a Borg cube.</p>
<p>There are experienced Captains who have proven their worth over decades who could be transferred from smaller, older, less prestigious ship to the Aventine.  Some of those, no doubt, have been on a command track for their entire lives, and may also be graduates of Starfleet&#8217;s Advanced Tactical Training Command School.</p>
<p>For example, if Captain Jones has commanded a Miranda class for ten years, and then an Ambassador class for the next ten years, it makes more sense to transfer him over to command the Aventine.</p>
<p>It rather stretches credulity that Ezri, who&#8217;s training wasn&#8217;t Command to begin with, would be given such a prestigious ship over those other officers.</p>
<p>As for Picard&#8217;s battlefield commission, it should be noted that the first Constellation class ship was commissioned in 2285.  When Picard took command of the Stargazer, it was 2333, by which time that class of ship was a full forty-eight years old.  Picard didn&#8217;t take command of the brand new, prestigious, Galaxy class until 2364, after a full thirty-one years of command service.  That&#8217;s the kind of experience that&#8217;s required to command a top of the line ship.  (And no, Trill&#8217;s don&#8217;t get a free pass to the top of the list.  They have to earn it just like everyone else.)</p>
<p>Then again, the publishers do want to utilize the main characters from the series&#8217;, each of which is a recognizable &#8220;name brand&#8221; to capture a reader&#8217;s attention.  So Ezri&#8217;s command has more to do with that, I suspect, than any sensible logic.</p>
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		<title>By: AdmiralDT</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdmiralDT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35: Another one of the seven hills of Rome is the Caelian Hill, or Caelius in Latin. Any etymological relation to the Caeliar in the Destiny series? Or is David Mack just putting his knowledge of the classics to good use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35: Another one of the seven hills of Rome is the Caelian Hill, or Caelius in Latin. Any etymological relation to the Caeliar in the Destiny series? Or is David Mack just putting his knowledge of the classics to good use?</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyBen</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiskeyBen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19:  I&#039;m also waiting for the DS9 series to come out with a new one!  Fearful Symmetry took WAY too long to be released after Warpath, and aside from that it would be nice to see the Next Generation and DS9 novel series keep pace with each other for once, rather than one always being way ahead of the other.  And I want some backstory on Dax and Bowers transferring off of DS9!  WTF!

I&#039;d also like to see some possible involvement with the Borg theme by the Klingon Empire series.  I&#039;ve really gotten into the stories about the IKS Gorkon and the other Chancellor-class warships.  And besides, ever since the original introduction of the Borg in &quot;Q-Who,&quot; we&#039;ve never really seen the Borg tangle with the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, or any other galactic superpower other than the Federation.

Looking forward to the Destiny series!  One more question: do we have any idea what these new Vesta-class starships look like?  Same for the Luna-class deep space explorers.  Any sketches anywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19:  I&#8217;m also waiting for the DS9 series to come out with a new one!  Fearful Symmetry took WAY too long to be released after Warpath, and aside from that it would be nice to see the Next Generation and DS9 novel series keep pace with each other for once, rather than one always being way ahead of the other.  And I want some backstory on Dax and Bowers transferring off of DS9!  WTF!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to see some possible involvement with the Borg theme by the Klingon Empire series.  I&#8217;ve really gotten into the stories about the IKS Gorkon and the other Chancellor-class warships.  And besides, ever since the original introduction of the Borg in &#8220;Q-Who,&#8221; we&#8217;ve never really seen the Borg tangle with the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, or any other galactic superpower other than the Federation.</p>
<p>Looking forward to the Destiny series!  One more question: do we have any idea what these new Vesta-class starships look like?  Same for the Luna-class deep space explorers.  Any sketches anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Sxottlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sxottlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not heard the word &quot;Aventine&quot; before this.

Looking it up, turns out to be one of the seven hills of Rome.  Since there are seven ships in the class, I&#039;d think they&#039;d all have the name of one of the hills, but Vesta is not one of the names (instead the goddess of the hearth apparently).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not heard the word &#8220;Aventine&#8221; before this.</p>
<p>Looking it up, turns out to be one of the seven hills of Rome.  Since there are seven ships in the class, I&#8217;d think they&#8217;d all have the name of one of the hills, but Vesta is not one of the names (instead the goddess of the hearth apparently).</p>
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		<title>By: The Last Maquis</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Last Maquis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Captain Dax&quot; does have a cool ring to it, but it&#039;s not Canon, so whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Captain Dax&#8221; does have a cool ring to it, but it&#8217;s not Canon, so whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: THX-1138 The Fandom Menace</title>
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		<dc:creator>THX-1138 The Fandom Menace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, David Mack.  I do look forward to reading these books, moreso than Voyager and Enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, David Mack.  I do look forward to reading these books, moreso than Voyager and Enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30 - No, you don&#039;t need to know much about DS9 to be able to follow the trilogy, though if you were familiar with the books set after the show&#039;s finale, Ezri&#039;s storyline will seem to come less &quot;out of the blue.&quot;

#31 - As Destiny progresses, we&#039;ll see that Ezri does feel a bit overwhelmed by her new billet as the C.O. of a large ship. It&#039;s a role she has to grow into, and, as they say, mistakes will be made....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30 &#8211; No, you don&#8217;t need to know much about DS9 to be able to follow the trilogy, though if you were familiar with the books set after the show&#8217;s finale, Ezri&#8217;s storyline will seem to come less &#8220;out of the blue.&#8221;</p>
<p>#31 &#8211; As Destiny progresses, we&#8217;ll see that Ezri does feel a bit overwhelmed by her new billet as the C.O. of a large ship. It&#8217;s a role she has to grow into, and, as they say, mistakes will be made&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: GraniteTrek</title>
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		<dc:creator>GraniteTrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;m (full disclosure) a DS9 fan (not that I don&#039;t love TOS and TNG as well, because I do - but DS9 is special to me), But I&#039;ve been keeping up on the relaunch series, and I think they&#039;ve mostly done a good job and revitalizing the books based on that series.  And given the changes in Ezri Dax (that were really only starting during season 7 of DS9) due to her Joining, that were continued in the relaunch books, I&#039;m not surprised she was a battlefield promotion away from being captain, though I&#039;m not sure (and if you read the excerpt, the character would agree) she was totally ready for it. But not every captain can be the supremely confident Kirk or the very experienced Picard - that would get old - and I have no doubt that even they, at their lowest moment, may have wondered if they were cut out for their jobs. 

For the record, I agree that the Borg are overdone, and their mere presence at this point is a bit of a turnoff for me. My hope is that they&#039;re merely used as a convenient (and believable) enemy that would start another war at this point - otherwise they&#039;d have to invent some new race from outside the alpha-beta-gamma area that would have the strength to be a threat to the Federation, and that would take up more focus than the authors (or readers) would want  - and that the Borg are more like a background enemy behind the main focus of these stories than a major part of the stories themselves, if you get what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m (full disclosure) a DS9 fan (not that I don&#8217;t love TOS and TNG as well, because I do &#8211; but DS9 is special to me), But I&#8217;ve been keeping up on the relaunch series, and I think they&#8217;ve mostly done a good job and revitalizing the books based on that series.  And given the changes in Ezri Dax (that were really only starting during season 7 of DS9) due to her Joining, that were continued in the relaunch books, I&#8217;m not surprised she was a battlefield promotion away from being captain, though I&#8217;m not sure (and if you read the excerpt, the character would agree) she was totally ready for it. But not every captain can be the supremely confident Kirk or the very experienced Picard &#8211; that would get old &#8211; and I have no doubt that even they, at their lowest moment, may have wondered if they were cut out for their jobs. </p>
<p>For the record, I agree that the Borg are overdone, and their mere presence at this point is a bit of a turnoff for me. My hope is that they&#8217;re merely used as a convenient (and believable) enemy that would start another war at this point &#8211; otherwise they&#8217;d have to invent some new race from outside the alpha-beta-gamma area that would have the strength to be a threat to the Federation, and that would take up more focus than the authors (or readers) would want  &#8211; and that the Borg are more like a background enemy behind the main focus of these stories than a major part of the stories themselves, if you get what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I havn&#039;t watched much of DS9. 
I want to see all the episodes... just don&#039;t have the $300 to buy all 7 seasons.

Do you think I&#039;ll still be able to follow these books even if I don&#039;t know much about DS9 or the characters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I havn&#8217;t watched much of DS9.<br />
I want to see all the episodes&#8230; just don&#8217;t have the $300 to buy all 7 seasons.</p>
<p>Do you think I&#8217;ll still be able to follow these books even if I don&#8217;t know much about DS9 or the characters?</p>
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