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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek To Get Some Big Fat Greek Competition</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher Seeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this movie will be good.  It has a great cast one hell of a director and it is due!  Trek never left it was just on hiatus.  I am glad there won&#039;t be any stiff competition for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this movie will be good.  It has a great cast one hell of a director and it is due!  Trek never left it was just on hiatus.  I am glad there won&#8217;t be any stiff competition for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike 1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike 1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel TREK has too much baggage: 1) Trekkies; 2) Paramount under valuing past TREK films with lame budgets in the past and letting it go on way too long;  3) People associate TREK with TV more than movies.


Given these, the economy and limited spending power, the average person might likely select something he or she feels is more slam-bang and more likely entertaining--based on past TREK films, TREK is a secondary choice.  By putting the film in the circle of other winning films, I feel Paramount has possibly erred.  Sure, it&#039;s easy to think that a 160 million budget, JJ Abrams, a new cast, a summer release, will erase the past, but I see no evidence the public cares about these things; they want to see a good movie and given past TREK films, it&#039;s going to be hard to win them over; not impossible, but hard.  


The last X-Men, Terminator, Da Vinci and TREK films were major disappointments--all movie franchises produce bad films, but people still come back to them.  I feel TREK will have a harder task bringing in the audience than these other films franchises. 


When movie goers look at that marquee to select a film to see, it would have been a lot better in TREKs favor if less direct competition was up there on the marquee to choose from.


Christmas &#039;08 offered limited choices and less competition and would have been a better decision in my book.  This may be a case where Paramount has over-valued TREK, which they have done before pitting Nemesis in the wake of LOTR).  I&#039;m glad they have confidence in the new film, but are they doing it at the wrong time and is the reason for the move really because of confidence, or because their &#039;09 summer schedule is thin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel TREK has too much baggage: 1) Trekkies; 2) Paramount under valuing past TREK films with lame budgets in the past and letting it go on way too long;  3) People associate TREK with TV more than movies.</p>
<p>Given these, the economy and limited spending power, the average person might likely select something he or she feels is more slam-bang and more likely entertaining&#8211;based on past TREK films, TREK is a secondary choice.  By putting the film in the circle of other winning films, I feel Paramount has possibly erred.  Sure, it&#8217;s easy to think that a 160 million budget, JJ Abrams, a new cast, a summer release, will erase the past, but I see no evidence the public cares about these things; they want to see a good movie and given past TREK films, it&#8217;s going to be hard to win them over; not impossible, but hard.  </p>
<p>The last X-Men, Terminator, Da Vinci and TREK films were major disappointments&#8211;all movie franchises produce bad films, but people still come back to them.  I feel TREK will have a harder task bringing in the audience than these other films franchises. </p>
<p>When movie goers look at that marquee to select a film to see, it would have been a lot better in TREKs favor if less direct competition was up there on the marquee to choose from.</p>
<p>Christmas &#8216;08 offered limited choices and less competition and would have been a better decision in my book.  This may be a case where Paramount has over-valued TREK, which they have done before pitting Nemesis in the wake of LOTR).  I&#8217;m glad they have confidence in the new film, but are they doing it at the wrong time and is the reason for the move really because of confidence, or because their &#8216;09 summer schedule is thin?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike 1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike 1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37

True, but the last several TREK films were disappointing too, so why doesn&#039;t your logic apply to it as well?</description>
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<p>True, but the last several TREK films were disappointing too, so why doesn&#8217;t your logic apply to it as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike 1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike 1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32

Did Paramount move TREK to May, &#039;09 because they really think it can make more money, or did they move it because they are thin in the summer &#039;09 blockbuster department?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32</p>
<p>Did Paramount move TREK to May, &#8216;09 because they really think it can make more money, or did they move it because they are thin in the summer &#8216;09 blockbuster department?</p>
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		<title>By: krikzil</title>
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		<dc:creator>krikzil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Will you be heading to the convention again? Next time we will def have to meet up. 

Yes captain_neill I will be attending despite the lack of STTE.  I figure a lot of the new cast will be invited to the con and that&#039;s always fun. I love seeing the actors&#039; first con appareances.  Quinto has handled it so fabulously.

I will probably just do the Preferred Weekend thing though next year.  No experience, no need for the party. Save myself some $.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Will you be heading to the convention again? Next time we will def have to meet up. </p>
<p>Yes captain_neill I will be attending despite the lack of STTE.  I figure a lot of the new cast will be invited to the con and that&#8217;s always fun. I love seeing the actors&#8217; first con appareances.  Quinto has handled it so fabulously.</p>
<p>I will probably just do the Preferred Weekend thing though next year.  No experience, no need for the party. Save myself some $.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>112- krikzil

Will you be heading to the convention again? Next time we will def have to meet up. 

Was kicking myself for not meeting up.

Did you say you were in Captain&#039;s Package?

NEILL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>112- krikzil</p>
<p>Will you be heading to the convention again? Next time we will def have to meet up. </p>
<p>Was kicking myself for not meeting up.</p>
<p>Did you say you were in Captain&#8217;s Package?</p>
<p>NEILL</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a big Star Trek fan, I gotta admit that I am _ as of this moment _ leaning toward &quot;My Life in Ruins&quot; as the movie I&#039;d be more certain to see, and more certain to see first. Things could change as I learn more about the Trek film, of course. At this point I still have high hopes for Trek and I still love the casting, but there&#039;s still about a 66% chance of me just waiting to rent it and see it at home. I have decided absolutely that, unlike the last two Trek films, I won&#039;t be skipping it entirely ... I _will_ at least rent it, even if the reviews are negative. So that alone has put it higher on the totem pole than other Trek outings :)

Wolverine is part of a franchise I will never trust again without overwhelmingly good reviews and lots of personal reassurances from friends who know my tastes well. Unless that happens, it&#039;s a _maybe_ rent, _maybe_ ignore entirely.

A new Terminator flick would, in my eyes, benefit greatly from my utter lack of high expectations and my general lack of investment in the setting. I&#039;d probably see it expecting some lightly amusing summer-movie crap and pleasantly surprised if it was anything other. 100% chance of a ticket sale with me if I had nothing better to do that night, because it doesn&#039;t _need_ to be a good movie to satisfy me. Sad but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a big Star Trek fan, I gotta admit that I am _ as of this moment _ leaning toward &#8220;My Life in Ruins&#8221; as the movie I&#8217;d be more certain to see, and more certain to see first. Things could change as I learn more about the Trek film, of course. At this point I still have high hopes for Trek and I still love the casting, but there&#8217;s still about a 66% chance of me just waiting to rent it and see it at home. I have decided absolutely that, unlike the last two Trek films, I won&#8217;t be skipping it entirely &#8230; I _will_ at least rent it, even if the reviews are negative. So that alone has put it higher on the totem pole than other Trek outings :)</p>
<p>Wolverine is part of a franchise I will never trust again without overwhelmingly good reviews and lots of personal reassurances from friends who know my tastes well. Unless that happens, it&#8217;s a _maybe_ rent, _maybe_ ignore entirely.</p>
<p>A new Terminator flick would, in my eyes, benefit greatly from my utter lack of high expectations and my general lack of investment in the setting. I&#8217;d probably see it expecting some lightly amusing summer-movie crap and pleasantly surprised if it was anything other. 100% chance of a ticket sale with me if I had nothing better to do that night, because it doesn&#8217;t _need_ to be a good movie to satisfy me. Sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the jury&#039;s out on Wolverine.  X-men 3 disappointed, so they are taking Wolverine out of that environment (no Patrick Stewart, or school, etc.) and focusing on his origin.  They&#039;ll probably try to make him into Batman.  I wonder if they&#039;ll give him the yellow and blue costume.  

His big minus in 2009:  He can&#039;t fly.  Even Batman &quot;flies&quot; using his cape, and flying provides a chance for FX, and oohs and aaahs in the cinema.

Trek&#039;s big &quot;undecided&quot; is the overseas market.  Certain EU member states will run to see this, but China, Russia, the Middle East, SE Asia, Africa, South and Central America? in these territories, it amounts to a full franchise launch, I&#039;m afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the jury&#8217;s out on Wolverine.  X-men 3 disappointed, so they are taking Wolverine out of that environment (no Patrick Stewart, or school, etc.) and focusing on his origin.  They&#8217;ll probably try to make him into Batman.  I wonder if they&#8217;ll give him the yellow and blue costume.  </p>
<p>His big minus in 2009:  He can&#8217;t fly.  Even Batman &#8220;flies&#8221; using his cape, and flying provides a chance for FX, and oohs and aaahs in the cinema.</p>
<p>Trek&#8217;s big &#8220;undecided&#8221; is the overseas market.  Certain EU member states will run to see this, but China, Russia, the Middle East, SE Asia, Africa, South and Central America? in these territories, it amounts to a full franchise launch, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>between the annoying hannah montana, and the prequel for wolfverine, star trek will be the clear winner on the weekend it premires  but, the fourth terminator? the third week for star trek will be tough. but i&#039;m sure, kirk and spock will beat john connor and the terminators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>between the annoying hannah montana, and the prequel for wolfverine, star trek will be the clear winner on the weekend it premires  but, the fourth terminator? the third week for star trek will be tough. but i&#8217;m sure, kirk and spock will beat john connor and the terminators.</p>
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		<title>By: krikzil</title>
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		<dc:creator>krikzil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Once again we have people predicting a bad movie based on nothing.

I don&#039;t think people are saying the movie will be bad, they are just concerned that no matter how good it is, it won&#039;t perform as well as we need it to do, to keep the franchise going. Paramount spent a lot of money -- too much in my opinion -- and it will have to be simply HUGE to make a profit.   Too many eggs in one basket.

I don&#039;t have interest in X-Men yet even I want to see Wolverine because I like the actor.  I thought T3 was an abomination yet because of the machine war and again the actor, I want to see this too.  I&#039;m just not sure Trek has that mainstream appeal. I work in the Criminal Justice system and encounter pretty much every type of person from the criminal, the crazy, cops, firefighters, doctors, attorneys, teachers, construction workers and more and since there&#039;s always a lot of Court downtime, I engage in small talk. Often it turns to movies and tv. I&#039;ve been sneaking Trek into conversations lately and it has kinda worried me that Trek is so off the radar.  What also surprised me is that many don&#039;t know who the hell JJ is.  Apparently a lot of folks can like a tv show or film but never care to find out who made it.  (weird but then I guess that&#039;s what separates us &quot;fans&quot;)

Captain_Neill -- I&#039;m sorry I missed you too!!!  I had a blast at the con and I loved Nimoy &amp; Quinto on the stage, It was even better than the Grand Slam earlier in the year.  But I did see you cause I had my binoculars checking out folks who asked the questions.  I remember the exchange with Malcolm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Once again we have people predicting a bad movie based on nothing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think people are saying the movie will be bad, they are just concerned that no matter how good it is, it won&#8217;t perform as well as we need it to do, to keep the franchise going. Paramount spent a lot of money &#8212; too much in my opinion &#8212; and it will have to be simply HUGE to make a profit.   Too many eggs in one basket.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have interest in X-Men yet even I want to see Wolverine because I like the actor.  I thought T3 was an abomination yet because of the machine war and again the actor, I want to see this too.  I&#8217;m just not sure Trek has that mainstream appeal. I work in the Criminal Justice system and encounter pretty much every type of person from the criminal, the crazy, cops, firefighters, doctors, attorneys, teachers, construction workers and more and since there&#8217;s always a lot of Court downtime, I engage in small talk. Often it turns to movies and tv. I&#8217;ve been sneaking Trek into conversations lately and it has kinda worried me that Trek is so off the radar.  What also surprised me is that many don&#8217;t know who the hell JJ is.  Apparently a lot of folks can like a tv show or film but never care to find out who made it.  (weird but then I guess that&#8217;s what separates us &#8220;fans&#8221;)</p>
<p>Captain_Neill &#8212; I&#8217;m sorry I missed you too!!!  I had a blast at the con and I loved Nimoy &amp; Quinto on the stage, It was even better than the Grand Slam earlier in the year.  But I did see you cause I had my binoculars checking out folks who asked the questions.  I remember the exchange with Malcolm!</p>
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