Comments on: SciFi ENT & TNG Marathons + Nemesis AMC Premiere [UPDATE: Trek Trivia Quiz w/ Prize]

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:13:39 +0000

#120—”‘Yesterday’s Enterprise’ would have made a far better movie than anything we actually got with the NextGen movies.”

Yes. I couldn’t agree more. I’m by no means a TNG fan of any significance, but that was one of the most interesting Trek stories ever told. I almost felt it was wasted on a TNG episode.

And aside from your feeling about TMP, our opinions of the ranking of ST movies do not vary much…

By: Bob Tompkins

Bob Tompkins — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:49:29 +0000

Since we are doing this again::::

1. Wrath of Kahn
2. Voyage Home
3. Search for Spock
4. First Contact
5. Undiscovered Country
6. The Motion Picture
7. Generations
8. Nemesis
9. Insurrection
10 Final Frontier

After the top 5, the quality varies according to my mood. And ‘Yesterday’s Enterprise’ would have made a far better movie than anything we actually got with the NextGen movies.

By: Captain Haywood

Captain Haywood — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:49:45 +0000

Lore,

I’m 35 years old, gainfully employed, married to a hottie, own my own home and 5 vehicles, and have two beautiful children (boy – 3yrs old, girl – 23 months), both of whom can name most of the original TOS cast on sight. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not, but I think it’s pretty cool. I don’t live in my parent’s basement, and I have a life. I just like Star Trek. I think that is the case for most of the people who post here. Trekkies (or Trekkers) are not all geeks who wear horn rimmed glasses and pocket protectors. Some of us are actually normal people who have normal lives just like everybody else in the “normal” society. We just love Star Trek. So perhaps it is you who need to “GET A LIFE!”

By: Lore

Lore — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:56:49 +0000

Perhaps we should all move out of our parents basements and “GET A LIFE”!

By: Captain Haywood

Captain Haywood — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:51:21 +0000

I am a HUGE TOS fan. I would rather watch TOS than any other Star Trek series. I would love to see the remastered TOS in its “uncut” form on TV. What bothers me is that in syndication, all the episodes have about 8 to 10 minutes of original footage cut out to make room for more commercials. I recently watched the remastered version of “The Trouble With Tribbles” that I had on my DVR. It was cut to pieces. The scene in the bar where Cyrano Jones haggles with the barkeep over the price of the tribbles is totally ruined. It is sliced to the point that it almost makes no sense. Kirk’s argument with Nils Barris at the beginning of the episode is also cut to pieces and Kirk’s first scene with Kiloth is really cut short. It drives me absolutely CRAZY!!!! I have seen every episode of TOS and I notice each and every scene that was cut out of the episodes that are shown on TV. The original versions of the TOS episodes are around 50 minutes long without commercials. The new syndicated versions end up being about 40 to 42 minutes long. That means that between 8 and 10 minutes of action is cut out. And sometimes it seems that the scenes that are cut are completely random. And a lot of the time, they are actually important scenes that are pivotal to the plot. And get this, the different networks cut their episodes differently. I watch TOS on TV Land and the remastered episodes on CBS. I have noticed that sometimes a scene will be cut out of a TVLand episode, but it will be in the CBS episode, or vise versa. It is absolutely rediculous. And I can’t afford the DVD set, so I just have to deal with it. It really sucks bad.

By: Wes

Wes — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:25:43 +0000

Bottom line- By the time of Nemesis, everyone became so Jaded and Judgemental with Trek, because of the 800+ hours to compare it to so, nothing would have pleased them completely.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:27:01 +0000

#114—”Not great…but CERTAINLY better than Star Trek V!”.

It doesn’t take much to be better than a turd.

“I MUCH prefer the Donner version with all the Brando footage of Jor-El.”

Absolutely. The more Brando, the better.

By: Redjac

Redjac — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:01:35 +0000

#99 says: “I recently saw the Richard Donner cut of Superman II and have to say it didn’t really make any improvements. ”

Oh, I disagree mightily here!! The Richard Lester directed version of the film ceased to exist after the Donner version was released. I happen to own both versions on DVD, but since Superman I and II were shot simultaneously I MUCH prefer the Donner version with all the Brando footage of Jor-El.

Those scenes alone make it vastly superior to the Richard Lester theatrical version of the film.

Another film that is superior as the director’s cut is Ridley Scott’s LEGEND. Again, once released on DVD, the theatrical version ceased to exist for me.

Both the theatrical versions of LEGEND and SUPERMAN II are dead to me. To me, the director’s cuts are now the “canon” versions of the films.

Might as well burn the theatrical versions as far as I am concerned. LOL!!!

Anyway, yeah…I’d love to see director’s cuts of STAR TREK V and NEMESIS! As many fans believe, Star Trek V has nowhere to go but up in quality — especially if the visual effects were overhauled.

In my opinion, the FX in Nemesis were fine. I think all the added moments that could be edited into the film are all character moments.

Regarding Nemesis, I count myself as a former Nemesis “hater”. But having watched it again on AMC, I found myself thinking “ya know…it wasn’t that bad. Not great…but CERTAINLY better than Star Trek V!”.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:30:13 +0000

#111—Fair enough.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:29:09 +0000

#110—Since we’re doing that again…

1. TWOK—the ST movie gold standard

2. TMP—most like the series, IMO

3. TVH—classic Trek social commentary with well placed humor

4. TSFS—fanboyish for sure, but pays off

5. TUC—nice recovery from STV: The Great Trek Turd Of ‘89

6. FC—best of a mediocre TNG film series

7-10. TFF, INS, GEN, NEM (in no particular order…these are all crap, IMO)