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	<title>Comments on: Fringe Update: Premiere Ratings In + Fringe Actor Talks Visit To Trek Set</title>
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		<title>By: Notbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a second playing of the pilot episode. Yeah, my opinion still stands for me. It&#039;s ok, not great. I will honestly give the next few (two or three)episodes a chance. If I&#039;m not hooked, and there isn&#039;t anything to keep me coming back, I&#039;ll probably stop watching.

I feel that the show could probably use a half or the season being continuation the other half stand alones like the X-Files. Without the hook, I&#039;ll figure the female agent and Joshua Jackson will have a lot of sexual tention. The crazy scientist will be just as weird (he&#039;s a steriotype character that usually never changes or grows). Fan sites will have fan fiction about them hooking up (which they eventually will do on the show, undoubtedly killing anything the show may have as a hook--let&#039;s face it Mulder and Scully were far better and more interesting with the question of will they ever hook up or not--than after they did.) and life will move on.

There are certain things that work out well for shows and movies and can be done over and over again. Certian cliches that are fine to use.But when a show or movie follows every cliche in the book, I guess David Fincher summed it up best with, &quot;no thanks. I already have seen that movie.&quot;

I hope the next few shows are shocking and fresh. Otherwise, it&#039;s time for me to move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a second playing of the pilot episode. Yeah, my opinion still stands for me. It&#8217;s ok, not great. I will honestly give the next few (two or three)episodes a chance. If I&#8217;m not hooked, and there isn&#8217;t anything to keep me coming back, I&#8217;ll probably stop watching.</p>
<p>I feel that the show could probably use a half or the season being continuation the other half stand alones like the X-Files. Without the hook, I&#8217;ll figure the female agent and Joshua Jackson will have a lot of sexual tention. The crazy scientist will be just as weird (he&#8217;s a steriotype character that usually never changes or grows). Fan sites will have fan fiction about them hooking up (which they eventually will do on the show, undoubtedly killing anything the show may have as a hook&#8211;let&#8217;s face it Mulder and Scully were far better and more interesting with the question of will they ever hook up or not&#8211;than after they did.) and life will move on.</p>
<p>There are certain things that work out well for shows and movies and can be done over and over again. Certian cliches that are fine to use.But when a show or movie follows every cliche in the book, I guess David Fincher summed it up best with, &#8220;no thanks. I already have seen that movie.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope the next few shows are shocking and fresh. Otherwise, it&#8217;s time for me to move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise de Arman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise de Arman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was able to watch my recorded Fringe last night and was impressed.  Things I liked:

1)  Humourous ranting scenes between the son and &quot;mad scientist&quot; father - &quot;Does this not concern you?&quot;  &quot;That&#039;s LSD&quot;, etc.  Good potential there for future character conflict between two geniuses who have some emotional ties between them (brings to mind Spock and McCoy).

2)  The mad scientist and FBI agent eating ice cream and watching Spongebob while the cow peers at the television over their shoulders.

3)  The son&#039;s concern with Torv&#039;s character and his repeated questions about &quot;John&quot; at the end, displaying his real human empathy with the situation he was thrust into against his will.

4)  Blair Brown is dynamite.  Expect great and ominous things from her Terminator-armed character.

Things I did not like:

1)  Torv&#039;s character, I felt, needed to be more stoic.  Even though she was embroiled in the most emotional of situations, I cannot see an FBI agent of her caliber openly crying in front of all who walked by at the accident site.  Women who excel in law enforcement bury those emotions under layers of hardness necessary for the job.

2)  I felt there needed to be a more definitive lead to the &quot;mad scientist&quot; for Torv&#039;s character.  How exactly was she led to him, other than reading files and doing research?  Why would he be the only person on the planet whom she would consider as a candidate in her investigation?

3)  Other than for audience information, why would Blair Brown&#039;s character voluntarily put The Pattern foreshadowing out there?  Perhaps that question will be answered in upcoming eps.

4)  Torv wrinkles her forehead too much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was able to watch my recorded Fringe last night and was impressed.  Things I liked:</p>
<p>1)  Humourous ranting scenes between the son and &#8220;mad scientist&#8221; father &#8211; &#8220;Does this not concern you?&#8221;  &#8220;That&#8217;s LSD&#8221;, etc.  Good potential there for future character conflict between two geniuses who have some emotional ties between them (brings to mind Spock and McCoy).</p>
<p>2)  The mad scientist and FBI agent eating ice cream and watching Spongebob while the cow peers at the television over their shoulders.</p>
<p>3)  The son&#8217;s concern with Torv&#8217;s character and his repeated questions about &#8220;John&#8221; at the end, displaying his real human empathy with the situation he was thrust into against his will.</p>
<p>4)  Blair Brown is dynamite.  Expect great and ominous things from her Terminator-armed character.</p>
<p>Things I did not like:</p>
<p>1)  Torv&#8217;s character, I felt, needed to be more stoic.  Even though she was embroiled in the most emotional of situations, I cannot see an FBI agent of her caliber openly crying in front of all who walked by at the accident site.  Women who excel in law enforcement bury those emotions under layers of hardness necessary for the job.</p>
<p>2)  I felt there needed to be a more definitive lead to the &#8220;mad scientist&#8221; for Torv&#8217;s character.  How exactly was she led to him, other than reading files and doing research?  Why would he be the only person on the planet whom she would consider as a candidate in her investigation?</p>
<p>3)  Other than for audience information, why would Blair Brown&#8217;s character voluntarily put The Pattern foreshadowing out there?  Perhaps that question will be answered in upcoming eps.</p>
<p>4)  Torv wrinkles her forehead too much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to see it last night, and as a pilot, it was fine.

The preview of the next ep shows that the dead boyfriend may yet be hanging around.  Hopefully, he won&#039;t die too often (&quot;You killed my boyfriend!  You bastard!&quot;)

I had problems with the electrical storm, as the airplane&#039;s movie monitors had them at halfway across the Atlantic, where they are usually flying at anywhere between 35 and 40,000 feet with temps at -60 or so.  Done it 100 times, and never seen lightning until close to landing. But maybe it wasn&#039;t lightning.

John Noble&#039;s character became &quot;sane&quot; a bit too quickly, and his son just hollers and complains, but there seems to be some room for massive growth for all of them.  Do Dr. Bishop and his son have jobs?

Hopefully, all eps will not take place in Boston and the &quot;lab,&quot; as that would be unrealistic a la &quot;24&quot; where the President is always in the Western White House, and LA is always the target (I realize the show &quot;takes place in real time,&quot; but go somewhere else, already.  Mexico doesn&#039;t count).

I&#039;m gonna watch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to see it last night, and as a pilot, it was fine.</p>
<p>The preview of the next ep shows that the dead boyfriend may yet be hanging around.  Hopefully, he won&#8217;t die too often (&#8221;You killed my boyfriend!  You bastard!&#8221;)</p>
<p>I had problems with the electrical storm, as the airplane&#8217;s movie monitors had them at halfway across the Atlantic, where they are usually flying at anywhere between 35 and 40,000 feet with temps at -60 or so.  Done it 100 times, and never seen lightning until close to landing. But maybe it wasn&#8217;t lightning.</p>
<p>John Noble&#8217;s character became &#8220;sane&#8221; a bit too quickly, and his son just hollers and complains, but there seems to be some room for massive growth for all of them.  Do Dr. Bishop and his son have jobs?</p>
<p>Hopefully, all eps will not take place in Boston and the &#8220;lab,&#8221; as that would be unrealistic a la &#8220;24&#8243; where the President is always in the Western White House, and LA is always the target (I realize the show &#8220;takes place in real time,&#8221; but go somewhere else, already.  Mexico doesn&#8217;t count).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna watch it.</p>
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		<title>By: ster j</title>
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		<dc:creator>ster j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught the repeat.  All I can say is WHOAH!  The dialogue was crip, the story moved at a clip, there were more plot twists than you&#039;d find on a corkscrew, and the benefit of watching the repeats is that the commercials were cut to 60-90 seconds.  Yes!

So, this is what our Trek 11 guys can do, eh?  I am no longer worried...so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught the repeat.  All I can say is WHOAH!  The dialogue was crip, the story moved at a clip, there were more plot twists than you&#8217;d find on a corkscrew, and the benefit of watching the repeats is that the commercials were cut to 60-90 seconds.  Yes!</p>
<p>So, this is what our Trek 11 guys can do, eh?  I am no longer worried&#8230;so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Scifigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scifigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>121 - The Vulcanista

Amen to that... :)

As a general comment, I find it ironic that some of the people who didn&#039;t like Fringe said the pilot wasn&#039;t as &quot;engaging&quot; as Lost, which grabs you right away. Well, I never got into Lost because I never managed to get through the pilot. Why? Because it simply bored me to tears and I almost fell asleep on it. Engaging? Not so much. On the other hand, I never said that Lost was weak and mediocre only because I didn&#039;t like it. Different strokes for different folks, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>121 &#8211; The Vulcanista</p>
<p>Amen to that&#8230; :)</p>
<p>As a general comment, I find it ironic that some of the people who didn&#8217;t like Fringe said the pilot wasn&#8217;t as &#8220;engaging&#8221; as Lost, which grabs you right away. Well, I never got into Lost because I never managed to get through the pilot. Why? Because it simply bored me to tears and I almost fell asleep on it. Engaging? Not so much. On the other hand, I never said that Lost was weak and mediocre only because I didn&#8217;t like it. Different strokes for different folks, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#120  That would be the minds of JJ Abrams, Bob Orci, and Alex Kurtzman.

That said, I liked it.  I&#039;m watching again.  And, no, I&#039;m not going to analyze unto death the reasons why I liked it.  I just did.  

I&#039;m a woman.  That&#039;s reason enough.

Peace.  Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#120  That would be the minds of JJ Abrams, Bob Orci, and Alex Kurtzman.</p>
<p>That said, I liked it.  I&#8217;m watching again.  And, no, I&#8217;m not going to analyze unto death the reasons why I liked it.  I just did.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a woman.  That&#8217;s reason enough.</p>
<p>Peace.  Live long and prosper.<br />
The Vulcanista }:-|</p>
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		<title>By: J_schinderlin56</title>
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		<dc:creator>J_schinderlin56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show was absolutely disgusting. What kind of mind conceives of something like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This show was absolutely disgusting. What kind of mind conceives of something like this?</p>
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		<title>By: rehabilitated hitch1969©</title>
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		<dc:creator>rehabilitated hitch1969©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>atleast he called them mister.

=h=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>atleast he called them mister.</p>
<p>=h=</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Chuckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Chuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m going to agree with 96 about the awesom-o 4000 theory (very nice btw).

i just watched it on the dvr with my fiance and two other couples. we all agreed that fringe was weak weak weak.

mr. orci&#039;s condescending post and mr. doohan chiming in like a lap dog are both embarrassing. you industry guys really don&#039;t need to justify yourselves to us non-experts. it sounds like you&#039;re polishing a, um, i mean putting lipstick on a....

oh, nevermind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m going to agree with 96 about the awesom-o 4000 theory (very nice btw).</p>
<p>i just watched it on the dvr with my fiance and two other couples. we all agreed that fringe was weak weak weak.</p>
<p>mr. orci&#8217;s condescending post and mr. doohan chiming in like a lap dog are both embarrassing. you industry guys really don&#8217;t need to justify yourselves to us non-experts. it sounds like you&#8217;re polishing a, um, i mean putting lipstick on a&#8230;.</p>
<p>oh, nevermind.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid thunderstorms on Tues. nite, DVDR didn&#039;t record.  Have to wait til Sunday.  

And many thanks to all posters for not making your posts *too* spoilery!  It&#039;s nice to have just the gist of the show before seeing it for the first time.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid thunderstorms on Tues. nite, DVDR didn&#8217;t record.  Have to wait til Sunday.  </p>
<p>And many thanks to all posters for not making your posts *too* spoilery!  It&#8217;s nice to have just the gist of the show before seeing it for the first time.  :-)</p>
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