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	<title>Comments on: Braga&#8217;s &#8216;Flash Forward&#8217; Headed To ABC</title>
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		<title>By: IrishPatsy</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/09/19/bragas-flash-forward-headed-to-abc/comment-page-2/#comment-2267874</link>
		<dc:creator>IrishPatsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been watching FlashForward, but it&#039;s getting more confusing all the time.  We just couldn&#039;t follow who was who or why in last night&#039;s show.  The&#039;re going to lose viewership if they don&#039;t somehow explain what the heck&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been watching FlashForward, but it&#8217;s getting more confusing all the time.  We just couldn&#8217;t follow who was who or why in last night&#8217;s show.  The&#8217;re going to lose viewership if they don&#8217;t somehow explain what the heck&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: JWM</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/09/19/bragas-flash-forward-headed-to-abc/comment-page-1/#comment-1084564</link>
		<dc:creator>JWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let’s face it - if you’re a fan of ST:TNG, Enterprise, Voyager, or either of the first two TNG films, you have no right to hate Brannon Braga.&quot;

False.  ST:TNG was a big-team effort wherein Braga was a smaller part. By contrast Enterprise and Voyager can be laid at his and Berman&#039;s doorstep squarely.  Whether the crappiness was due to over-saturation, over-work, the departure of Ronald Moore as an important counter-balance or whatever else, does not change that they were overall crappy efforts.  

To further support my statement, when day-to-day duties for Enterprise were handed to Manny Coto, the series quality improved *dramatically* and that fourth season was the exact show that I had wanted to watch the moment I heard them announce it - until the last episode.  I gave Enterprise endless chances before that, just to be unable to bear it.  I am glad I gave it one last chance when I heard that they were changing direction.

Do I wish Mr. Braga any ill?  *Not at all.*  In fact, I hope that he finds the right project for _his_ voice and enjoys success.  I hope that for everyone, because when given the opportunity I&#039;d like to see anyone succeed.  But that does not excuse past missteps.Heck, it&#039;s possible that Mr. Braga is an excellent idea man, but should be hands-off for execution.

As for the first two TNG films, I thought that there were good parts to them both, but at least half of the ideas and their execution were epic failures.  Turning Cochrane into  a comic drunk and boob - despite his brilliance that enabled him to create the Warp Drive - was maddening due to its execution.  He wasn&#039;t simply a drunk or an a-hole.  He was a bona fide idiot, but invented the Warp Drive ship...just because the plot demanded it.  

By default, I lay that at Braga&#039;s doorstep merely in the context that Moore has demonstrated with BSG that most likely, he was more responsible for the awesome action sequences that I loved in that film.  Perhaps that&#039;s mistaken on my part, and if that&#039;s the case, then I will gladly assign the blame where it should go.

As for Kirk&#039;s death in Generations, or the concept of the Nexus and how it was executed...well, everyone who was responsible for that, including Moore, should be horse-whipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s face it &#8211; if you’re a fan of ST:TNG, Enterprise, Voyager, or either of the first two TNG films, you have no right to hate Brannon Braga.&#8221;</p>
<p>False.  ST:TNG was a big-team effort wherein Braga was a smaller part. By contrast Enterprise and Voyager can be laid at his and Berman&#8217;s doorstep squarely.  Whether the crappiness was due to over-saturation, over-work, the departure of Ronald Moore as an important counter-balance or whatever else, does not change that they were overall crappy efforts.  </p>
<p>To further support my statement, when day-to-day duties for Enterprise were handed to Manny Coto, the series quality improved *dramatically* and that fourth season was the exact show that I had wanted to watch the moment I heard them announce it &#8211; until the last episode.  I gave Enterprise endless chances before that, just to be unable to bear it.  I am glad I gave it one last chance when I heard that they were changing direction.</p>
<p>Do I wish Mr. Braga any ill?  *Not at all.*  In fact, I hope that he finds the right project for _his_ voice and enjoys success.  I hope that for everyone, because when given the opportunity I&#8217;d like to see anyone succeed.  But that does not excuse past missteps.Heck, it&#8217;s possible that Mr. Braga is an excellent idea man, but should be hands-off for execution.</p>
<p>As for the first two TNG films, I thought that there were good parts to them both, but at least half of the ideas and their execution were epic failures.  Turning Cochrane into  a comic drunk and boob &#8211; despite his brilliance that enabled him to create the Warp Drive &#8211; was maddening due to its execution.  He wasn&#8217;t simply a drunk or an a-hole.  He was a bona fide idiot, but invented the Warp Drive ship&#8230;just because the plot demanded it.  </p>
<p>By default, I lay that at Braga&#8217;s doorstep merely in the context that Moore has demonstrated with BSG that most likely, he was more responsible for the awesome action sequences that I loved in that film.  Perhaps that&#8217;s mistaken on my part, and if that&#8217;s the case, then I will gladly assign the blame where it should go.</p>
<p>As for Kirk&#8217;s death in Generations, or the concept of the Nexus and how it was executed&#8230;well, everyone who was responsible for that, including Moore, should be horse-whipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/09/19/bragas-flash-forward-headed-to-abc/comment-page-1/#comment-1084111</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[48] - there is nothing to hate about post-Roddenberry Trek, except the fact it is so damn boring, shy and repetitive sometimes. I mean, what sane person would reuse the same scripts in three subsequent series with only minor changes? How can we suppose our Trek to be cutting-edge if they use scripts 20 years old? And, well, Braga had his hand in it, I&#039;m afraid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[48] &#8211; there is nothing to hate about post-Roddenberry Trek, except the fact it is so damn boring, shy and repetitive sometimes. I mean, what sane person would reuse the same scripts in three subsequent series with only minor changes? How can we suppose our Trek to be cutting-edge if they use scripts 20 years old? And, well, Braga had his hand in it, I&#8217;m afraid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tiberius</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiberius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Braga has actually tuned into these conversations at times, and responded to questions. His commentary for ST:Generations, is frankly one of the most refreshing things I&#039;ve ever heard a writer say - he nailed ALL of the problems with that well-intentioned film. I found him to be very self-deprecating.

Let&#039;s face it - if you&#039;re a fan of ST:TNG, Enterprise, Voyager, or either of the first two TNG films, you have no right to hate Brannon Braga.

The guy is interlinked with post-Roddenberry Trek as much as anyone is. 

I am still mad at Lucas/Spielberg for what they did to us fans in the latest Indiana Jones film, but it doesn&#039;t erase their previous good work. Same goes with Braga.

And if you hate all post-Roddenberry Trek, might I suggest you find another website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Braga has actually tuned into these conversations at times, and responded to questions. His commentary for ST:Generations, is frankly one of the most refreshing things I&#8217;ve ever heard a writer say &#8211; he nailed ALL of the problems with that well-intentioned film. I found him to be very self-deprecating.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; if you&#8217;re a fan of ST:TNG, Enterprise, Voyager, or either of the first two TNG films, you have no right to hate Brannon Braga.</p>
<p>The guy is interlinked with post-Roddenberry Trek as much as anyone is. </p>
<p>I am still mad at Lucas/Spielberg for what they did to us fans in the latest Indiana Jones film, but it doesn&#8217;t erase their previous good work. Same goes with Braga.</p>
<p>And if you hate all post-Roddenberry Trek, might I suggest you find another website.</p>
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		<title>By: fakesteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>fakesteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, everyone blacks out for 2 minutes and 17 seconds. Maybe that is long enough to regain consciousness with the illusion that Braga is a talented and creative individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, everyone blacks out for 2 minutes and 17 seconds. Maybe that is long enough to regain consciousness with the illusion that Braga is a talented and creative individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Braga never should have been allowed near anything Star Trek. He&#039;s a hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Braga never should have been allowed near anything Star Trek. He&#8217;s a hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Robert April</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/09/19/bragas-flash-forward-headed-to-abc/comment-page-1/#comment-1078428</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Braga was churning out crap long before he could use the burnout excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Braga was churning out crap long before he could use the burnout excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew_BriggsUk</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2008/09/19/bragas-flash-forward-headed-to-abc/comment-page-1/#comment-1078252</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew_BriggsUk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see people in here to work on more or less the same show for that amount of time and still come up with good new ideas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see people in here to work on more or less the same show for that amount of time and still come up with good new ideas</p>
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		<title>By: JWM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brannon Braga earned my eternal hatred for what he did with the last episode of Enterprise.  Finally, there was a season that made me feel good about watching the damned show, and the series finale was so badly botched that I actually threw something at my television (ask the fellas who were watching with me for testimonials).  Fortunately, the only thing at hand was a balled-up paper towel, and so no damage done to the TV.  But plenty of damage done to my corneas, heart and soul.

Look, let&#039;s state what everyone is afraid to say most of the time: Brannon Braga and Ron Moore working together as part of a larger team on TNG and DS9 was terrific.  Brannon Braga and Ron Moore working together on TNG movies was uneven at best. Ron Moore leaving exposed Braga as a fraud, IMHO.  I don&#039;t care who he is or what he does anymore, I hold him equally responsible with Berman for the death of Star Trek.  It wasn&#039;t over-saturation, it was over-crap-uration.

The fact that Braga and Coto work together on 24 explains something to me, too.  As in, why I think it&#039;s half brilliant and half retarded.

Goyer should thank his lucky stars that ABC had the sense to dream up a reason to keep Braga at arm&#039;s length.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brannon Braga earned my eternal hatred for what he did with the last episode of Enterprise.  Finally, there was a season that made me feel good about watching the damned show, and the series finale was so badly botched that I actually threw something at my television (ask the fellas who were watching with me for testimonials).  Fortunately, the only thing at hand was a balled-up paper towel, and so no damage done to the TV.  But plenty of damage done to my corneas, heart and soul.</p>
<p>Look, let&#8217;s state what everyone is afraid to say most of the time: Brannon Braga and Ron Moore working together as part of a larger team on TNG and DS9 was terrific.  Brannon Braga and Ron Moore working together on TNG movies was uneven at best. Ron Moore leaving exposed Braga as a fraud, IMHO.  I don&#8217;t care who he is or what he does anymore, I hold him equally responsible with Berman for the death of Star Trek.  It wasn&#8217;t over-saturation, it was over-crap-uration.</p>
<p>The fact that Braga and Coto work together on 24 explains something to me, too.  As in, why I think it&#8217;s half brilliant and half retarded.</p>
<p>Goyer should thank his lucky stars that ABC had the sense to dream up a reason to keep Braga at arm&#8217;s length.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll merely cite how markedly Enterprise improved once Braga was relieved of his day-to-day showrunner duties in favor of Manny Coto.

The sad part is that Coto was stuck doing damage control for most of that last season, cleaning up the mess left behind by the Bragaberman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll merely cite how markedly Enterprise improved once Braga was relieved of his day-to-day showrunner duties in favor of Manny Coto.</p>
<p>The sad part is that Coto was stuck doing damage control for most of that last season, cleaning up the mess left behind by the Bragaberman.</p>
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