I am a Trek fan and I hated the movie. It sucked. It stank. Do these people know anything about the Trek universe? How can the death of Kirk’s father cause Spock to have a human female as a lover, lose respect for his Vulcan elders and fly into rages. The man grew up on Vulcan. Where incidentally, I don’t think they have whores and I don’t think Vulcan children would know about whores. I mean we know Spock can kiss but that’s only when he has reverted 5000 years into the past or has a nose full of alian pollen or is enduring Pon Farr. Or has met me.

Kirk may be a bit unbelievable at times, cheesy and corny but he certainly was not an undignified idiot which is how he was portrayed in the movie.. and Sarek. Well, Sarek confessing love for his wife to his son??? And Chekov. Because Kirk had no dad, Chekov suddenly becomes a pedantic genius with no shyness whatsoever. We won’t talk about Scotty or the Orion female in Star Fleet?? Is her planet even a member of the Federation? And how can there be no senior officers on board after Pike left. A ship ful of junior officers only. A starship worth billions left to Spock (who because he lost his temper with Kirk is emotionally unable to command) even though he seems to think that having an affair with his crewmate is fit emotional control for a vulcan and then Kirk… Kirk the juvenile jerk is made captain just because he overheard something Noyota said – ahead of Spock, at the age of about 24 years?? By the way, Scotty invented the what?? I was so angry when I left the theatre that I almost lost it. There were 3 previews before the movie started and they all showed exactly the same thing. Lots of explosions, fights, blood and silly young people running all over the place. Star Trek was basically the same – a show for people born after 1994 who think that a cluttered bridge with twinkling lights and a ship full of undisciplined children who may or may not cheat on their exams can actually succeed just because hollywood says so. Sickening! Bones was the only recognizable and believable character. Spock rushed his lines and would not open his lips when speaking and it was obvious that he had mutterd the lines to himself dozens of times to learn them. He reminded me of a 6th grader playing Romeo against his will. I didn’t like the slur on “Live long and prosper” either. The makeup was poor. Spock has cheekbones and as far as I know Kirk does not have blue/grey eyes and Chekov does not have curly hair. Scotty also has more hair than whats his face.

Perhaps they can try again in Star Trek X11 and next time get it right. Afterall, it’s my generation that kept this thing going and I would appreciate some respect for the characters.

It’s done like the Original series. Fast and on the cheap, but with a lotta love and devotion.

I long ago trumpeted how I would like to see Trek XI’s marketing budget go directly to the New Voyages crew. What eps they could make if they had a budget and a good six months devoted to the effort.

Agreed.

It was good.

Just not “Great” or “Epic.”

I understand not wanting to be a sheep, but come on. It was a GREAT movie, if a bit crammed. I have a decent cross-section of friends who either :

a. are big Batman comic book fans
b. never read Batman comics
c. never really read comics at all
d. don’t care for superhero movies per se

and I’ve found the general consensus to be that they all thought it was an incredible, captivating movie that was, at turns, dark, humorous, dramatic, suspenseful, and action-packed. I think that speaks pretty well for it.

Personally, I would like to see Watchmen be even better, as I think the source material is one of the best books I’ve ever read, period. If Star Trek can be called to hold company with either of these, then it’s shaping up to be much better than I was expecting. And that’s a good thing, right?

I am sure that the plot will leak by X-mas with blabber mouth
seeing the flick already.

As long as it adheres to the TOS vision that humanity does not destroy itself, but instead, unites to conquer its current social ills and to explore the final frontier….then it’s still Star Trek to me.

That’s easy…because what they (and their peers) think of it will ultimately determine whether the franchise has a long term future…

Hmm. Seems to me if you have to radically change something so much that it no longer resembles it’s original form, then, really, what’s the point? So kids can watch something that is called Star Trek? I don’t think so. In 1987 they changed the Trek “formula” to appeal to “modern” audiences and that stale recipe rocked along for 20 years until it ultimately buried the “franchise”.

Now, I think THIS change is in the right direction, but still, change is not always for the better…just to keep something in the spotlight is not a good reason to turn it into something it isn’t.

That’s easy…because what they (and their peers) think of it will ultimately determine whether the franchise has a long term future…and the massive investment in ths film means that the established fans cannot carry it on their own. Those of us here at trekmovie.com can see this movie 3 times each, and it still might not break even! Recognizing the need for more “mainstream appeal” than Star Trek has ever had is just common sense. Simply sticking with the old formula is not a viable option…

STXI has to impress kids who may not even have been alive the last time the TOS-era characters were depicted on the big screen. That is not even debatable.