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	<title>Comments on: Ricky Gervais Turned Down Role In Abrams Star Trek</title>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 Harry Mudd. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 Harry Mudd. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like those other films,
maybe Rickey smells a Stinker of a part.
Not really saying that the new film will stink.
However the concept of Scotty being 
played a clown sure stinks up the place for me.
Maybe the producers are trying to turn the Scotty role
into a Will Tippon type character?
At least Nimoy is still Spock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like those other films,<br />
maybe Rickey smells a Stinker of a part.<br />
Not really saying that the new film will stink.<br />
However the concept of Scotty being<br />
played a clown sure stinks up the place for me.<br />
Maybe the producers are trying to turn the Scotty role<br />
into a Will Tippon type character?<br />
At least Nimoy is still Spock!</p>
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		<title>By: classictrek</title>
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		<dc:creator>classictrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely disagree Nuallain but i do respect your opinion. 
cheers
Greg
UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely disagree Nuallain but i do respect your opinion.<br />
cheers<br />
Greg<br />
UK</p>
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		<title>By: Nuallain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuallain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from the British Isles too and, I have to say, watching it on transmission it really did seem the most toe-curlingly patronising and hypocritical thing ever.

It really was a speech designed to prove and show how much better Ricky Gervais is than all his contemporaries.  His hypocrisy is huge (this is the man, after all, that made a record breaking series of podcasts off the back of signing up, and laughing at, a man he himself describes as &quot;retarded, basically&quot;.  And who engaged in dubious tactics when getting participants for his Extras series (according to at least one who dealt with him, it&#039;s clear that if you turn him down it will *made known* you turned him down and that you obviously think yourself so-much-better than DeNiro, Stiller etc.)

The only difference between Gervais and the makers of reality television is that they do it for ratings and he does it to inflate his own sense of self-regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from the British Isles too and, I have to say, watching it on transmission it really did seem the most toe-curlingly patronising and hypocritical thing ever.</p>
<p>It really was a speech designed to prove and show how much better Ricky Gervais is than all his contemporaries.  His hypocrisy is huge (this is the man, after all, that made a record breaking series of podcasts off the back of signing up, and laughing at, a man he himself describes as &#8220;retarded, basically&#8221;.  And who engaged in dubious tactics when getting participants for his Extras series (according to at least one who dealt with him, it&#8217;s clear that if you turn him down it will *made known* you turned him down and that you obviously think yourself so-much-better than DeNiro, Stiller etc.)</p>
<p>The only difference between Gervais and the makers of reality television is that they do it for ratings and he does it to inflate his own sense of self-regard.</p>
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		<title>By: classictrek</title>
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		<dc:creator>classictrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#102
i think it just ricky saying he&#039;s fed up with seeing z grade so called celebs living their lives out in the open. He&#039;s also saying that in the scheme of things seeing a pcture of cameron diaz with a pimple isnt important and that people should really get on with their lives. 

I dont know where you are from but this specch struck a particular chord here in the UK. He also hit the nail on the head when he talked about the victorian freak show never went away and that its now in the form of big brother and similar shows on TV where &#039;the bewildered&#039; are brought out to be sniggered at by the masses. programme makers do seem to wash their hands of the fact that a lot of the time they exploit vulnerable people for the sake of ratings.

Greg UK

very good points indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#102<br />
i think it just ricky saying he&#8217;s fed up with seeing z grade so called celebs living their lives out in the open. He&#8217;s also saying that in the scheme of things seeing a pcture of cameron diaz with a pimple isnt important and that people should really get on with their lives. </p>
<p>I dont know where you are from but this specch struck a particular chord here in the UK. He also hit the nail on the head when he talked about the victorian freak show never went away and that its now in the form of big brother and similar shows on TV where &#8216;the bewildered&#8217; are brought out to be sniggered at by the masses. programme makers do seem to wash their hands of the fact that a lot of the time they exploit vulnerable people for the sake of ratings.</p>
<p>Greg UK</p>
<p>very good points indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuallain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuallain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#95: I actually find that scene almost offensive.  The meta-effect of that Extras special is that Gervais is saying that it&#039;s a one-in-the-million creator who can combine popularity with artistic integrity.  Like him.

#99: I&#039;m not sure I agree with that.  I think Gervais seems to have perfected the &#039;double blind&#039; style of writing and self-presentation where he presents this &#039;character&#039; of conceited egoism and everybody laughs along, and doesn&#039;t get turned off, because it seems to be a parody - a joke we&#039;re all in on.

The trouble is that, after all this time and all this exposure through different media, it&#039;s pretty clear that if you scratch Gervais&#039; self constructed image of conceited egoism you find... more conceit and ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#95: I actually find that scene almost offensive.  The meta-effect of that Extras special is that Gervais is saying that it&#8217;s a one-in-the-million creator who can combine popularity with artistic integrity.  Like him.</p>
<p>#99: I&#8217;m not sure I agree with that.  I think Gervais seems to have perfected the &#8216;double blind&#8217; style of writing and self-presentation where he presents this &#8216;character&#8217; of conceited egoism and everybody laughs along, and doesn&#8217;t get turned off, because it seems to be a parody &#8211; a joke we&#8217;re all in on.</p>
<p>The trouble is that, after all this time and all this exposure through different media, it&#8217;s pretty clear that if you scratch Gervais&#8217; self constructed image of conceited egoism you find&#8230; more conceit and ego.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffries Tuber:

Helen Mirren -- OMG, Yes!

Vincent D&#039;Onofrio -- Maybe as a villain

Don Cheadle, Stellan Skaarsgard -- I love these actors, but it&#039;s hard for me to picture either.

My dream list for Star Trek would include Liev Schreiber, Meryl Streep, Ed Harris, Ralph Fiennes, Rachel Weisz, and Hugh Jackman. (Coming up with it seat-of-the-pants style -- I&#039;m sure I could think of more.)

I&#039;d also love to see Michelle Forbes play a part as an admiral (obviously not as Ro Laren -- wrong era and Ro turns renegade in the end anyway), kind of like her role as Admiral Cain in Batllestar Galactica, but not as brutal.

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#99 - Weyoun Gretzky -- I totally agree. If anything, Ricky Gervais is a master at skewering the whole &quot;snooty Brit&quot; image. His characters end up as unwitting parodies of themselves. It&#039;s all pretty subtle and nuanced a lot of the time, so, indeed, one must be paying attention. That&#039;s my considered opinion as an American fan of many BBC shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffries Tuber:</p>
<p>Helen Mirren &#8212; OMG, Yes!</p>
<p>Vincent D&#8217;Onofrio &#8212; Maybe as a villain</p>
<p>Don Cheadle, Stellan Skaarsgard &#8212; I love these actors, but it&#8217;s hard for me to picture either.</p>
<p>My dream list for Star Trek would include Liev Schreiber, Meryl Streep, Ed Harris, Ralph Fiennes, Rachel Weisz, and Hugh Jackman. (Coming up with it seat-of-the-pants style &#8212; I&#8217;m sure I could think of more.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also love to see Michelle Forbes play a part as an admiral (obviously not as Ro Laren &#8212; wrong era and Ro turns renegade in the end anyway), kind of like her role as Admiral Cain in Batllestar Galactica, but not as brutal.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>#99 &#8211; Weyoun Gretzky &#8212; I totally agree. If anything, Ricky Gervais is a master at skewering the whole &#8220;snooty Brit&#8221; image. His characters end up as unwitting parodies of themselves. It&#8217;s all pretty subtle and nuanced a lot of the time, so, indeed, one must be paying attention. That&#8217;s my considered opinion as an American fan of many BBC shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene L. Coon was a U. S. Marine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene L. Coon was a U. S. Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97  I&#039;m speaking specifically about Gervais, not literally &quot;everyone&quot;.  I am more like you than you realize, btw.  I don&#039;t consider anything but TOS to be ST.  I try not to state that often, because I&#039;m not looking for a brawl, and to each his own.  But I meant that Gervais&#039; view on ST doesn&#039;t phase me in the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97  I&#8217;m speaking specifically about Gervais, not literally &#8220;everyone&#8221;.  I am more like you than you realize, btw.  I don&#8217;t consider anything but TOS to be ST.  I try not to state that often, because I&#8217;m not looking for a brawl, and to each his own.  But I meant that Gervais&#8217; view on ST doesn&#8217;t phase me in the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Weyoun Gretzky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weyoun Gretzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 -&quot;snooty Brit with his nose high up in the air&quot;

This makes me think you haven&#039;t seen more than 30 seconds of his work. Don&#039;t like him? Fine. But that is such a blatant mischaracterization of him and his work. Extras does little else but make fun of snootiness (his ***character*** is rather so). Check out the &quot;Christmas&quot; season finale of that show - it&#039;ll disprove your point. Handily. With an atomic weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 -&#8221;snooty Brit with his nose high up in the air&#8221;</p>
<p>This makes me think you haven&#8217;t seen more than 30 seconds of his work. Don&#8217;t like him? Fine. But that is such a blatant mischaracterization of him and his work. Extras does little else but make fun of snootiness (his ***character*** is rather so). Check out the &#8220;Christmas&#8221; season finale of that show &#8211; it&#8217;ll disprove your point. Handily. With an atomic weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56 - I think you&#039;re probably right that she was talking about Robert Wise. Please forgive the faulty memory of an aging man.

I do remember however that Nicholas Meyer said that the original cast had the rarest of stellar qualities -- charm -- in abundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56 &#8211; I think you&#8217;re probably right that she was talking about Robert Wise. Please forgive the faulty memory of an aging man.</p>
<p>I do remember however that Nicholas Meyer said that the original cast had the rarest of stellar qualities &#8212; charm &#8212; in abundance.</p>
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