After all in the Movies Kirk died at the end of Generations, but in the books he was later brought back to life by the Borg and recued by Piccard and continued to live in the 24th century

Well as far as continuity, consider how many times the Enterprise has gone back in time; After all according the Star Fleet Temporal Investigations James T kirk has the largest file in regards to time travel.

Now some action of the battles in Star Wars would be good, Star Trek battles have been more ship to ship; Star Trek II for example, even Star Trek VI only had 3 ships in the final battle.

You got a hint of a larger battle in the opening of Star Trek First Contact but the director didn’t show much of the larger battle.

Just be aware of Admiral Jar Jar

And you are absolutely correct. A significant portion of the target audience was not even alive the last time James T. Kirk was depicted on the big screen. They couldn’t care less about continuity of the timeline, a resemblance to a previous actor in appearance or style, similarity asthetic set detail, or any of that minutia. They, like the rest of the movie-going world, will just want to see a good film that entertains them.

Sometimes, we—those of us older folks who are long since established fans of the franchise—have a somewhat exaggerated sense of our own importance.

254 – hi, yep from across the pond in jolly ol green fields of the english countryside. Hope you agree with the above comments.

But with all due respect to Meyer, Koenig, and to Trekmovie’s own review cited in your post, I cannot find the “error” in Khan recognizing Chekov.
It was ‘Koenig’ who joined the ‘cast’ in the second season.

A ‘fictional character’ joining a ‘crew’ of 430 is not the same thing. I will only submit, as I always have, that Meyer’s direction establishes for the first time that Chekov was aboard the Enterprise during the events of “Space Seed”, however unintentionally.

There was no contradiction or error in continuity. Just because some confuse the ‘perception’ of such with the actual occurence of a contradiction doesn’t make it true.

The only thing that Meyer contradicted was ‘fanon’—that is, what fans assumed to be true. That is very different from established ‘canon’, IMO.
The notion that “perception is reality”, to me, is just a bad cliche—and an excuse used to justify a distortion of the truth.

Just as all nit-picking fans, I assumed that Chekov was a new comer in season two. But the ‘truth’ is, there was never anything canon to establish that. There was only the ‘perception’, based upon never actually seeing the character in an episode.

But think about it. How many, even in all 79 episodes, of the 430 crew compliment of the Starship Enterprise were we ever introduced to at all? When we see someone for the first time in season three, do we automatically assume he/she just got there? That wouldn’t make sense, would it? The only reason we developed the perception that it was automatically true with Chekov is because he became a member of the regular bridge crew and because we know that Koenig was added to the cast in season two. But at what other time do we accept behind-the-scenes information as ‘canon’? It doesn’t make sense at all.

Chekov came aboard after the last first season episode= ‘fanon’

Chekov was aboard during the events of “Space Seed”= ‘canon’

There is nothing in established canon, either previous or subsequent, to dispute that. Period. Therefore, it cannot be a mistake, an error, or any other synonym chosen.

It doesn’t matter how many people perceive it the other way. History is full of examples where the majority opinion turns out to be wrong.

I define a “continuity error” as something which contradicts previously established canon. Perhaps your definition varies?

All NonCanon, of course, but as Roberto Orci told us, he read all the books…

right, Bob?

He’s not falling victim to a “perception”, just acknowledging a reality — that this stuff happens, even to the best creators (like Sir Doyle).

A review of TWOK in 12/06 on this site discussed Meyer’s “pass” by Trek fans on this:

“The introduction of Khan also brings up another lesson for Star Trek XI, that of ‘continuity’. Although Khan claims he remembers Checkov, Chekov didn’t join the show until the season after ‘Space Seed’. Trek fans are notorious sticklers for this sort of thing, yet in the case of Star Trek II they seem to give Meyer a pass (explaining it away by saying Chekov was below decks or something). And, of course, regular film goers didn’t need to have seen ‘Space Seed’ to understand Khan’s hatred for Kirk, nor would they care about the whole Chekov not meeting Khan thing. The lesson here is that if a film gets the big things right like character and excitement, apparent ‘continuity errors’ like this are irrelevant. If the film is good but Kirk meets Spock before the Enterprise, or Mc Coy is on board for the first mission (and not Dr Piper), fans will find a way to deal with it just like they did with Chekov and Khan meeting (and the rest of the world will never know the difference).”

Which leads nicely to your comment:

“That might spark some heated discussion after the film, specifically if Chekov is depicted aboard when Kirk first takes command.”

Oh, I bet! But like TWOK, if the movie is good and works overall, a lot of fans will be willing to forgive such a continuity disparity or find a work around. But on the flip side, I can sympathize with fans who will take issue, even if it’s not a deal breaker for me.

My only deal breaker would be a Kirk or Spock I don’t recognize. I’m imaging how the Enterprise looks will perhaps bring the most controversy. Do you think it will ever be “classic” enough for some fans; or modern enough for others? Or even too much a mix of both so as to please no one? I really can’t wait to read THAT thread.