Comments on: Pegg Talks Star Trek Script Secrecy and Enteprise Sets

By: cranky

cranky — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:13:49 +0000

Engineering shares the 16th deck with Medical. It also sits at the back of the saucer section, decks 6 and 7; assumedly these are where the impulse engines are — the warp drives are in the main propulsion units, along with the control reactors – one in each – which sit on the two pylons.

This according to the original blueprints. Of course, the Enterprise was rebuilt so many times across the various movies, who knows where anything wound up . If Abrams reverts to the original plans, maybe we’ll get to see the bowling alley down on deck 21

If you’d like, and if there’s a place for ‘em here, I’ll scan the blueprints so y’all can see for yourself

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:36:49 +0000

I’ve never given an ounce of thought as to where the impulse engines are located. But you guys all seem to have a wealth of knowledge on the subject, and on both sides of the issue.

By: TrekMadeMeWonder

TrekMadeMeWonder — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:55:54 +0000

Well, I hope I made my point about the Imulse drive being a good set piece and worthy of inclusion into ST XI. Seeing the huge Impulse drive fire up its conventional engines would be really great to see and would be Epic in scale!

Really. The “Impulse Deck” should be brought back to Trek.
It’s been been long forgotten and IS a critical ship component.

By: Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile

Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:33:56 +0000

121. I also found the term “impulse deck”. I think this is the deck that contains the impulse engines.

By: Mark Lynch

Mark Lynch — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:02:13 +0000

#120
Hey! I’ve got that poster too….. ;-)

I just love things that make our Trek Universe even more real.

By: Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile

Trek-Inspired Astrophysicophile — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:12:08 +0000

116. So if the term “matter-antimatter nacelles” is equivalent to “matter-antimatter pods”, then it is probably not the same as the term “warp drive nacelles”. According to wikipedia.org, the term “nacelle” is “commonly used in aviation, nautical and spacecraft design, to refer to a covered housing (separate from the fuselage) that holds engines, fuel, or equipment” and even a cockpit. So I think matter-antimatter nacelles are like fuel nacelles in aviation, as opposed to warp drive nacelles, which are like engine nacelles in aviation. However, if nacelles are supposed to be separate from the fuselage, or hull, why are the matter-antimatter nacelles enclosed within the engineering section or secondary hull? I think they are just flushed against the surface of the hull, rather than embedded deep inside the hull.

In any case, I found another website that provides transcripts, http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek. After comparing the two sites, I think this one is more faithful, as I found the terms “engineering levels”, “warp drive nacelles”, and “main section” here, but not at the other site. The term “engineering levels” is probably the same as “engineering decks”. And the term “main section” probably means saucer section or primary hull.

By: TrekMadeMeWonder

TrekMadeMeWonder — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:05:17 +0000

Someting like this cool cutaway illustration 119?.

http://home.comcast.net/~thewoozle2/startrek/enterprise.jpg

Is that Engineering at the top, near the Impulse drive?

Seriously, This cutaway seems to be a little out of scale. I’d make the internal scale a little smaller. But still a real nice job.

By: Mark Lynch

Mark Lynch — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:02:15 +0000

I hope that one of the things that is released as part of the new film is like we had for ST-TMP and that is a set of bleprints for the Enterprise. But unlike the TMP blueprints I hope we get interior deck plans or at least a cutaway view.

Some of my proudest possessions are the blueprints for the original Enterprise and the Enterprise-D.

I’ve always loved to see these things and imagine myself walking around the ship.

I must say that I was mighty impressed with the Enterprise-D deck plans. Still have them somewhere, must get them out again sometime.

By: TrekMadeMeWonder

TrekMadeMeWonder — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:13:17 +0000

I think it is safe to assume that the new movie will keep these details in mind. Perhaps the trailer will show us enough.

One thing is sure. The budget is HUGE!
Surely they must have designed the E inside and out by now.

TRAILER!
TRAILER!
TRAILER!

By: Alex Rosenzweig

Alex Rosenzweig — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:49:32 +0000

#113 – “The blueprints were published by Ballantine, I’m looking at them right now: “The Complete Set of 12 Authentic Blueprints of the Fabulous Starship Enterprise.” So they’re no more canonical than a paperback novel.”

I hate to say it, but as someone who never let my assessments of the Trek Universe stop at the edges of a TV or movie screen, my only reaction here is to shrug.

The facts are that FJ’s work was as authoritative as it could be, given the thinking of the time. And in that period, in the early ’70s, the idea of a matter/antimatter reactor inside the secondary hull was almost nonexistent. The prevailing idea at the time was the action all happened in the nacelles.

Now, over the years, that idea has changed, but that doesn’t make the blueprints…what was the word? Heresy? Sheesh… ;) Even FJ gave himself the out of including a warp engineering section in the secondary hull. Might it look a bit more like the TOS set than FJ drew? Could be! Or maybe the TOS set was impulse engineering, and warp engineering will be portrayed as quite different and unique in the upcoming film. :) Thing of it is, there are, and have been, different ways of looking at he whole thing, and I think we should all admit that it is, after all, fun to play with the ideas. Yes? :D