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	<title>Comments on: Exclusive: Orci and Kurtzman Talk To TrekMovie About USS Kelvin (and Kirk&#8217;s shirt) + New Kelvin Image</title>
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		<title>By: Bloons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk&#039;s black shirt is a cadet&#039;s shirt. yes, in this film he joins Starfleet after the other characters, because he is a &#039;rebel&#039; and a &#039;hothead&#039; style character who has to be persuaded to follow in his father&#039;s footsteps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk&#8217;s black shirt is a cadet&#8217;s shirt. yes, in this film he joins Starfleet after the other characters, because he is a &#8216;rebel&#8217; and a &#8216;hothead&#8217; style character who has to be persuaded to follow in his father&#8217;s footsteps.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the ship were upside down, the letters would all be backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the ship were upside down, the letters would all be backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: the Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if Harol... I mean the young Sulu is also gay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if Harol&#8230; I mean the young Sulu is also gay?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Rosenzweig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#177 - &quot;I am a rabid Trek fan, but someone (who is kvetching about the changes/updates), please tell me what the hell the point of doing a new TOS-era movie if you don’t update the look and the style? 

I&#039;m not kvetching as much as some, and I like a lot of what I see, but my counter-question would be, what&#039;s the point of doing a TOS-era movie if one has no intention of at least trying to be *true to* the look and style?

(Note that I think the jury&#039;s still out for me on whether the new bridge fits that criterion. I&#039;m waiting to see more. I think the uniforms certainly do fit the criterion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#177 &#8211; &#8220;I am a rabid Trek fan, but someone (who is kvetching about the changes/updates), please tell me what the hell the point of doing a new TOS-era movie if you don’t update the look and the style? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not kvetching as much as some, and I like a lot of what I see, but my counter-question would be, what&#8217;s the point of doing a TOS-era movie if one has no intention of at least trying to be *true to* the look and style?</p>
<p>(Note that I think the jury&#8217;s still out for me on whether the new bridge fits that criterion. I&#8217;m waiting to see more. I think the uniforms certainly do fit the criterion.)</p>
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		<title>By: Craptain Amerika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craptain Amerika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, there are a lot of nitpicky people here.  But I guess that&#039;s to be expected.  I am a rabid Trek fan, but someone (who is kvetching about the changes/updates), please tell me what the hell the point of doing a new TOS-era movie if you don&#039;t update the look and the style?  

I think that ship looks AWESOME.  The uniforms look AWESOME.  The actors as their characters look AWESOME.  (Not to mention hot!)  

I can&#039;t wait for this movie.  I have yet to see anything by Bad Robot that I didn&#039;t like.  Alias was good.  Lost is great.  Cloverfield was fantastic.  Fringe is awesome.  I have no worries about my biggest geeky pasttime being taken over by these boys.  Judging by their past work, they&#039;re all brilliant storytellers, and after the Berman/Braga yawnfests (VOY &amp; ENT), Trek could definitely use a healthy dose of brilliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, there are a lot of nitpicky people here.  But I guess that&#8217;s to be expected.  I am a rabid Trek fan, but someone (who is kvetching about the changes/updates), please tell me what the hell the point of doing a new TOS-era movie if you don&#8217;t update the look and the style?  </p>
<p>I think that ship looks AWESOME.  The uniforms look AWESOME.  The actors as their characters look AWESOME.  (Not to mention hot!)  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for this movie.  I have yet to see anything by Bad Robot that I didn&#8217;t like.  Alias was good.  Lost is great.  Cloverfield was fantastic.  Fringe is awesome.  I have no worries about my biggest geeky pasttime being taken over by these boys.  Judging by their past work, they&#8217;re all brilliant storytellers, and after the Berman/Braga yawnfests (VOY &amp; ENT), Trek could definitely use a healthy dose of brilliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kelvin: I&#039;m almost positive that&#039;s the deflector up top. Hard to tell but there&#039;s probably a dish or something in the middle of the blue glowy part, which fits in fine with &quot;continuity&quot; between the NX-class and TNG-era ships. Basically it&#039;s like a Saladin-class with the deflector up top instead of under the saucer (which wouldn&#039;t work with the glowy part anyway). I think it&#039;s a good choice, as it fits in well while being different. And for those complaining about there only being one engine, there still could be two. The deflector could be built into an engine or the engine could be built into the secondary hull! ...And the ship isn&#039;t upside down! 

Kirk&#039;s Shirt: I read that it&#039;s part of the cadet outfit, or IS the cadet outfit (doubtful). He probably hasn&#039;t earned a uniform yet, let alone command. But who knows?! I&#039;m sure it&#039;s a big part of the story. 

Spock choking Kirk: Looks like it&#039;s on the Enterprise bridge... 

Continuity and &#039;reimagining&#039;: I&#039;m becoming more convinced that this isn&#039;t a reimagining, but rather a retcon. It&#039;s supposed to fit into the timeline better, which could allow for changes in canon in my opinion. It&#039;s not like canon is consistant anyway &gt;.&gt; At least this might be an attempt to smooth things out a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kelvin: I&#8217;m almost positive that&#8217;s the deflector up top. Hard to tell but there&#8217;s probably a dish or something in the middle of the blue glowy part, which fits in fine with &#8220;continuity&#8221; between the NX-class and TNG-era ships. Basically it&#8217;s like a Saladin-class with the deflector up top instead of under the saucer (which wouldn&#8217;t work with the glowy part anyway). I think it&#8217;s a good choice, as it fits in well while being different. And for those complaining about there only being one engine, there still could be two. The deflector could be built into an engine or the engine could be built into the secondary hull! &#8230;And the ship isn&#8217;t upside down! </p>
<p>Kirk&#8217;s Shirt: I read that it&#8217;s part of the cadet outfit, or IS the cadet outfit (doubtful). He probably hasn&#8217;t earned a uniform yet, let alone command. But who knows?! I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a big part of the story. </p>
<p>Spock choking Kirk: Looks like it&#8217;s on the Enterprise bridge&#8230; </p>
<p>Continuity and &#8216;reimagining&#8217;: I&#8217;m becoming more convinced that this isn&#8217;t a reimagining, but rather a retcon. It&#8217;s supposed to fit into the timeline better, which could allow for changes in canon in my opinion. It&#8217;s not like canon is consistant anyway &gt;.&gt; At least this might be an attempt to smooth things out a little.</p>
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		<title>By: random.user</title>
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		<dc:creator>random.user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW guys, I&#039;m surprised none of you thought of this.. the black shirt is photoshop so the effect of the real shirt isnt spoiled?!?! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW guys, I&#8217;m surprised none of you thought of this.. the black shirt is photoshop so the effect of the real shirt isnt spoiled?!?! :)</p>
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		<title>By: BritTrek Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BritTrek Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USS Kelvin NCC 0514  Dharma Class Cruiser

The brown thing below he thin saucer is obviously the main deflector, (TOS) sytle, attached to the secondary hull. The eye type thing on top is the naccelle. Sucha a nacelle configuration makes it an ansector to the Saladin class, (TMP era) and the Freedom Class, ( TNG era).</description>
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<p>The brown thing below he thin saucer is obviously the main deflector, (TOS) sytle, attached to the secondary hull. The eye type thing on top is the naccelle. Sucha a nacelle configuration makes it an ansector to the Saladin class, (TMP era) and the Freedom Class, ( TNG era).</p>
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		<title>By: nice guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nice guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions:
couldn&#039;t kirk be finishing command training and not just graduating from the academy when sulu and others were there?  saavik was a lt. in TWOK  and didn&#039;t seem to be just a cadet, right?

btw #160, gary mitchell was kirk&#039;s first officer before spock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions:<br />
couldn&#8217;t kirk be finishing command training and not just graduating from the academy when sulu and others were there?  saavik was a lt. in TWOK  and didn&#8217;t seem to be just a cadet, right?</p>
<p>btw #160, gary mitchell was kirk&#8217;s first officer before spock.</p>
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		<title>By: MedStudent12</title>
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		<dc:creator>MedStudent12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the 0 in front, I read in the Art of Star Trek that the first 2 number of a registry were the class, the second 2 were the order that it was released.  In that, the 1701 was the 17th class of Federation starship, and was the second released (with 1700 being the USS Constitution).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 0 in front, I read in the Art of Star Trek that the first 2 number of a registry were the class, the second 2 were the order that it was released.  In that, the 1701 was the 17th class of Federation starship, and was the second released (with 1700 being the USS Constitution).</p>
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