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	<title>Comments on: More from Orci, Kurtzman and Quinto On New Star Trek Images + New Sulu Image</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Rosenzweig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#131 - “I dont understand this, this movie violates every canon in the book .”

How so?

“canon has it kirk went promoted from lieutenant cmdr right to captain, to become the youngest captain at age 35 . but does kirk go from ensign straight to captain in this movie at age 25??”

Canon doesn’t say anything save that Kirk was a Lieutenant 11 years before “Obsession”, and that he’s the youngest captain in StarFleet at the time he takes command of the Enterprise.

“and Kirk and Mccoy are cadets at the same time? isn’t McCoy 10 years older than Kirk, they did not go to the academy at the same time?”

McCoy is established in TNG to be born in 2227. The 5-year mission is established as taking place between 2265 and 2270. Accepting the Okuda date for Kirk’s birth, McCoy’s about 6 years older than Kirk. Note, thouigh, taht it’s also believed that McCoy was already a doctor and an MD before he went to the Academy. As an older student, he and Kirk could possibly have met at the Academy…or perhaps later.

“same with Uhuru and Checkov, arent they younger, maybe 20? certainly checkov was not even in the 1st season of TOS, and when he came in the 2nd season he was a fresh ensign . how can he be here in this crew together?”

Well, TWOK establishes that Chekov was on board the Enterprise during “Space Seed”. He is a bit young to be there as a full Ensign if this movie is pre-dating “Where No Man…”, but perhaps he’s there on a training cruise?

“and spock is here, wasnt he on capt pike’s enterprise first before kirk?”

Right. No contradiction to be found in that.

“did pike retire from star fleet? if so, is enterprise - the flag-ship of the fleet, given to a bunch of young officers just graduated? i dont understand”

Pike eventually left command of the Enterprise, and was promoted to Fleet Captain. “The Menagerie” establishes that he was later horribly injured rescuing cadets on a training ship, and was crippled from radiation exposure. I don’t know if the movie will cover this or not, but so far, nothing that we’ve heard contradicts that for him. I take that as the reason for EW describing him as “doomed”.

Now I’m still pretty concerned about all this alternate timeline horsecrap, but to be fair, so far, nothing we’ve seen suggests that any of the events in the Trekverse are being contradicted. With everybody connected to the production asserting that it’s not going to be, perhaps the concern is merely needless hand-wringing. We can but hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#131 &#8211; “I dont understand this, this movie violates every canon in the book .”</p>
<p>How so?</p>
<p>“canon has it kirk went promoted from lieutenant cmdr right to captain, to become the youngest captain at age 35 . but does kirk go from ensign straight to captain in this movie at age 25??”</p>
<p>Canon doesn’t say anything save that Kirk was a Lieutenant 11 years before “Obsession”, and that he’s the youngest captain in StarFleet at the time he takes command of the Enterprise.</p>
<p>“and Kirk and Mccoy are cadets at the same time? isn’t McCoy 10 years older than Kirk, they did not go to the academy at the same time?”</p>
<p>McCoy is established in TNG to be born in 2227. The 5-year mission is established as taking place between 2265 and 2270. Accepting the Okuda date for Kirk’s birth, McCoy’s about 6 years older than Kirk. Note, thouigh, taht it’s also believed that McCoy was already a doctor and an MD before he went to the Academy. As an older student, he and Kirk could possibly have met at the Academy…or perhaps later.</p>
<p>“same with Uhuru and Checkov, arent they younger, maybe 20? certainly checkov was not even in the 1st season of TOS, and when he came in the 2nd season he was a fresh ensign . how can he be here in this crew together?”</p>
<p>Well, TWOK establishes that Chekov was on board the Enterprise during “Space Seed”. He is a bit young to be there as a full Ensign if this movie is pre-dating “Where No Man…”, but perhaps he’s there on a training cruise?</p>
<p>“and spock is here, wasnt he on capt pike’s enterprise first before kirk?”</p>
<p>Right. No contradiction to be found in that.</p>
<p>“did pike retire from star fleet? if so, is enterprise &#8211; the flag-ship of the fleet, given to a bunch of young officers just graduated? i dont understand”</p>
<p>Pike eventually left command of the Enterprise, and was promoted to Fleet Captain. “The Menagerie” establishes that he was later horribly injured rescuing cadets on a training ship, and was crippled from radiation exposure. I don’t know if the movie will cover this or not, but so far, nothing that we’ve heard contradicts that for him. I take that as the reason for EW describing him as “doomed”.</p>
<p>Now I’m still pretty concerned about all this alternate timeline horsecrap, but to be fair, so far, nothing we’ve seen suggests that any of the events in the Trekverse are being contradicted. With everybody connected to the production asserting that it’s not going to be, perhaps the concern is merely needless hand-wringing. We can but hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Holo J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holo J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a bit of fun really but here is Pine as Kirk with brown eyes…
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd147/HoloJames/chris-pine-james-kirk_l.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a bit of fun really but here is Pine as Kirk with brown eyes…<br />
<a href="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd147/HoloJames/chris-pine-james-kirk_l.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd147/HoloJames/chris-pine-james-kirk_l.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: spock or sylar</title>
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		<dc:creator>spock or sylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont understand this,  this movie violates every canon in the book .

are these supposed to be a bunch of wet behind the ears ensign officers just graduated from academy?  how do they become lieutentants and commanders so quickly during the 5 year mission?  canon has it kirk went promoted from lieutenant cmdr right to captain, to become the youngest captain at age 35 . but does kirk go from ensign straight to captain in this movie at age 25??

and Kirk and Mccoy are cadets at the same time?  isn&#039;t McCoy 10 years older than Kirk, they did not go to the academy at the same time?

same with Uhuru and Checkov, arent they younger, maybe 20?  certainly checkov was not even in the 1st season of TOS, and when he came in the 2nd season he was a fresh ensign .  how can he be here in this crew together?

and spock is here, wasnt he on capt pike&#039;s enterprise first before kirk?  did pike retire from star fleet? if so, is enterprise - the flag-ship of the fleet, given to a bunch of young officers just graduated?  i dont understand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand this,  this movie violates every canon in the book .</p>
<p>are these supposed to be a bunch of wet behind the ears ensign officers just graduated from academy?  how do they become lieutentants and commanders so quickly during the 5 year mission?  canon has it kirk went promoted from lieutenant cmdr right to captain, to become the youngest captain at age 35 . but does kirk go from ensign straight to captain in this movie at age 25??</p>
<p>and Kirk and Mccoy are cadets at the same time?  isn&#8217;t McCoy 10 years older than Kirk, they did not go to the academy at the same time?</p>
<p>same with Uhuru and Checkov, arent they younger, maybe 20?  certainly checkov was not even in the 1st season of TOS, and when he came in the 2nd season he was a fresh ensign .  how can he be here in this crew together?</p>
<p>and spock is here, wasnt he on capt pike&#8217;s enterprise first before kirk?  did pike retire from star fleet? if so, is enterprise &#8211; the flag-ship of the fleet, given to a bunch of young officers just graduated?  i dont understand</p>
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		<title>By: JTK1999</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTK1999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>129. I have never seen a single episode of Heroes so the word &quot;Sylar&quot; means nothing to me. I&#039;m sure that&#039;s the case with a lot of otehr people. I think Quinto is a great choice to play Spock. Not to mention Leonard Nimoy agrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>129. I have never seen a single episode of Heroes so the word &#8220;Sylar&#8221; means nothing to me. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s the case with a lot of otehr people. I think Quinto is a great choice to play Spock. Not to mention Leonard Nimoy agrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Spocks BRAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spocks BRAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after seeing that pic of &quot;spock choking kirk&quot; again...

gesh this is sylar.. 

they should have chosen an unknown for spock not this guy

actually they should have cloned nimoy.. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after seeing that pic of &#8220;spock choking kirk&#8221; again&#8230;</p>
<p>gesh this is sylar.. </p>
<p>they should have chosen an unknown for spock not this guy</p>
<p>actually they should have cloned nimoy.. lol</p>
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		<title>By: ksmsscu</title>
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		<dc:creator>ksmsscu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90.  WORD, Buckaroohawk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90.  WORD, Buckaroohawk!</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! THIS IS A DISASTER! THE USS KELVIN LOOKS NOTHING TOS-ISH!
It should&#039;ve been a Saladin-class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! THIS IS A DISASTER! THE USS KELVIN LOOKS NOTHING TOS-ISH!<br />
It should&#8217;ve been a Saladin-class.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individual cast photos where done by an artist Jill Greenberg. if you look at her site youl understand why they look the way they do. http://www.manipulator.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individual cast photos where done by an artist Jill Greenberg. if you look at her site youl understand why they look the way they do. <a href="http://www.manipulator.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.manipulator.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps. is that eyeball not an airplane-jet-esque nacelle?

I also enjoy that everybody (Uhura included) looks like they could hold their own in a fist fight. No &#039;Shatner&#039; girdles here (except the one I&#039;m wearing now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. is that eyeball not an airplane-jet-esque nacelle?</p>
<p>I also enjoy that everybody (Uhura included) looks like they could hold their own in a fist fight. No &#8216;Shatner&#8217; girdles here (except the one I&#8217;m wearing now).</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, we&#039;re nerds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, we&#8217;re nerds!</p>
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