I don’t expect you to grok this, but it’s not all black & white. Some of us are happy there’s something new and fresh, but are not rooting for a true reboot, one that dispenses with everything that came before. It’s all a question of degree, and you’d be hard-pressed to argue we already have proof that this movie is a flat-out reboot — in fact, I’d argue that we have proof of the opposite, though the jury is still out on a number of significant details.

With this new movie everything that came before will be rendered null and void. Wiped from existence. And no one cares. Theyre all too happy to embraced anything as long as it bears the STAR TREK brand regardless if it respects what came before or not.

My childhood has been killed. Brutally murdered. My happy memories watching the show rendered null and void. because now none of those stories are valid. Wiped out from Temporal tampering.

Of course i dont expect the gushers to care. They got their shiny new objects, what do they care how those fo us who have followed Trek from our childhoods feel. Its a zero sum game, you can only love one or the other and embracing this movie means the classic doesnt mater to you. Its not good enough for you any more. Screw us classic fans ewho held Star Trek close to our hearts for decades.

I recon Ill get flamed for this. But thats the way it goes.

Enjoy your molestation of a sacred Sci-Fi legacy. But you’ll forgive me if I dont join you all in dancing on the graves of DeForest Kelley, Doohan and all the other great vets of a classic thats no longer loved

I hope they use some version of his Star Trek: TMA/Star Trek TNG theme, though.

If not, well…. They’ll lose at least a couple of C-notes in ticket sales from *me*. What others may do, I can’t address.

This reminds me of a flyer I once saw at the first San Diego Comic Book Convention I went to back in ‘76. (God, I’m old) The flyer contained an underground comic-style cartoon of a fat, big-bosomed woman having sex with the rotting corpse of Spock with a caption about Star Trek being dead.

As we all know, the cartoonist was right.

Note to Abrams and Co: You are a bunch of tools. Over rated!

Screw STXI. Trek is dead!

Maybe someday they’ll brush off the Eric Jendresen script and actually make a go of it. From what I’ve read, I think it would have been pretty cool, myself.

#81 – “Unlike Star Trek, in my opinion, BSG-TOS was a ridiculous myth-vehicle with silly caricatures for characters and no credibility whatsoever at its basis, whereas BSG-R is a serious work.”

See, I thought the basic premise of both BSG-TOS and nuBSG were essentally the same. It was the background and tone that became radically different. The idea that what happened to the 12 Colonies was something that Humanity did to itself, by creating the Cylons, rather than a conflict with an alien species, was an interesting choice, though not one I would have made.

I have to admit, though, that I liked the mythic stuff a lot, and in the end, the other big difference–just MHO, mind you–was that in BSG-TOS, I liked and/or respected most of the characters. In nuBSG, I can say neither about them. I do think, had BSG-TOS survived longer, that we might have seen more stories about the difficulties of living in that situation, and possibly something like the New Caprica story arc. Alas, all that remains in the realm of speculation. Ahh, well… :)

“Star Trek-TOS on the other hand has at its basis a serious, credible premise (with ridiculousness occasionally tagging along for the ride), so it does not deserve the same treatment of re-imagining. Star Trek XI will hopefully give the franchise a fresh lease on life, with a new set and a new stable of actors, but the fundamental concept is unchanged — that, to me, is already clear.”

And with this, I agree completely.

Apparently he’s a cult film director who is a friend of Abrams, and, having seen the film at some point, has signed an agreement not to divulge anything useful. Ra-Ra Star Trek!

The fact that he favors the films over the TV series means he’s in the minority of Trekkers. I’d like to hear his opinion of all Trek films. Bottom dollar he hasn’t seen them all.

No more Ra-Ra!